KR> gear location
Sid,, The reason that I gave a measurment from the rear face of the main spar is because not everyone's or even maybe no one's leading edge is in the same place. There are several different airfoils around and different hands building them. But the gear axle relative to the main spar would always be a station that is the same that anyone can check from. I am concerned and understand what the problem is and I would not think that a 1/4" or 1/2" move would have any serious impact on W but a 3" move of the gear center line is very significant. Joe horton -- Forwarded Message -- From: Sid Wood via KRnet krnet at list.krnet.org Now, it's on to fixing the main gear wheel location; needs to be moved 3 inches further aft on my KR-2. Both KR and Diehl plans are silent on this main wheel location dimension. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA 4 Fish to Never Eat Click to Learn 4 Fish to NEVER Eat avoid these like the plague! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53ee1417992a214174687st02duc
KR> Fw: Re: Main gear locations-CORRECTION
OK, then there is just about 3" difference. I measured mine and it is 20" aft of the leading edge which would make everyone the same after Sid changes his. Larry Bell On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:39 AM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > -- Forwarded Message -- > From: Lawrence Bell via KRnet > To: Comcast , KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Main gear locations > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:54:39 -0700 > > Sid has his main axle distance 17" aft of the stub wing leading edge, Joe > has his 7" aft of the << > > CORRECTION: rear face of the foreward spar > > > > >of the main spar. Since the leading edge > of the stub wing should 10.75" forward of the forward edge of the main spar > they are essentially in the same position for a tri -gear. It seems to me > the difference is other loading aft of the gear. According to Sid's w he > is right in the middle of the range. I assume Joe's is the same since he > flies in balance. Going to the folks that like physics, something doesn't > compute. Moving the wheels aft would fix the ground imbalance but would > move the C.G. a little aft. > My thoughts, Larry Bell > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Comcast via KRnet > wrote: > > > I've built my own gear and I measure out at 18"s back from the leading > > edge to the axle center for the mains. 10"s from fire wall forward to > axle > > center. > > > > Dan Prichard > > Portland Oregon > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Paul Visk via KRnet > > > wrote: > > > > > > I believe that Sid was going to but his mains at 20" behind the leading > > edge. > > > > > > > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > > > > > > Original message From: > > "joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet" > > Date:08/13/2014 9:40 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > smwood at md.metrocast.net Cc: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Subject: KR> Main gear locations > > > Sid,I just happen to have measured my locations for mains and > nose > > wheel the other night to compare to the new project. N357CJ main axle > > center line is 7" behind the main spar and the nose wheel axle is 10" in > > front of the firewall. I agree that the actual dimension is not in the > > instructions but this is where it ends up if all the landing gear parts > > that come with the Deihl kit are used in the instructed configuration. I > > checked it against the project that I am working on and it is nearly > > identical even thought the fuselages are very different. I know that > yours > > is a KR2 but the location relative to the spar is always going to be the > > same. I don't remember that you mentioned the location relative to the > spar > > but only was it related to the weight and balance stations.Joe Horton > > > > > > > > > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. > > > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 > > > ___ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > > change options > > > ___ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > > change options > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change > > options > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > > The #1 Worst Carb Ever? > Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar Dont Eat > This! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53ee37ef8761037ef5644st03duc > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see
KR> Gear location
My purpose in moving the main wheels 3 inches aft to 20 inches from the leading edge of the stub wing is to improve ground handling. The plan is to not dump on the tail when boarding or dismounting. Plus I can keep the nose wheel on the pavement on the bumpy taxiways at 2W6. Moving the main wheel 3 inches aft will move the cg about 0.2 inches aft; that should not make much difference in flight stability. The ground cg when I board or dismount does move to about 17 inches; that's why I need the wheels to be at 20 inches. Elevator authority at slow speed prior to take-off does not appear to be an issue. First high speed taxi will prove or disprove that theory. And of course I will do another weight and balance with my digital scales prior to any attempted flight. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA > > Sid has his main axle distance 17" aft of the stub wing leading edge, Joe > has his 7" aft of the forward face of the main spar. Since the leading > edge > of the stub wing should 10.75" forward of the forward edge of the main > spar > they are essentially in the same position for a tri -gear. It seems to me > the difference is other loading aft of the gear. According to Sid's w he > is right in the middle of the range. I assume Joe's is the same since he > flies in balance. Going to the folks that like physics, something doesn't > compute. Moving the wheels aft would fix the ground imbalance but would > move the C.G. a little aft. > My thoughts, Larry Bell > > > >> I've built my own gear and I measure out at 18"s back from the leading >> edge to the axle center for the mains. 10"s from fire wall forward to >> axle >> center. >> >> Dan Prichard >> Portland Oregon
KR> Selling out
Is anyone interested in buying me out? I have two projects, both in the boat stage, one single seat the other two seat, both have tail sections done, controls done on one and 50% done on single, spars done for both, outer wings for the single are 50% done, vw engine mount on the two seat, both have landing gear wheels tires installed, two seat has hydraulic brakes, both tail wheels, header tank on the single is done, workmanship on both are excellent, extras include roll of glass cloth, cans of resin n hardener Contact me off net for pics Iflyexp at gmail.com Bob Sent from my iPhone
KR> Main gear locations
Sid has his main axle distance 17" aft of the stub wing leading edge, Joe has his 7" aft of the forward face of the main spar. Since the leading edge of the stub wing should 10.75" forward of the forward edge of the main spar they are essentially in the same position for a tri -gear. It seems to me the difference is other loading aft of the gear. According to Sid's w he is right in the middle of the range. I assume Joe's is the same since he flies in balance. Going to the folks that like physics, something doesn't compute. Moving the wheels aft would fix the ground imbalance but would move the C.G. a little aft. My thoughts, Larry Bell On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Comcast via KRnet wrote: > I've built my own gear and I measure out at 18"s back from the leading > edge to the axle center for the mains. 10"s from fire wall forward to axle > center. > > Dan Prichard > Portland Oregon > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Paul Visk via KRnet > wrote: > > > > I believe that Sid was going to but his mains at 20" behind the leading > edge. > > > > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > > > > Original message From: > "joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet" > Date:08/13/2014 9:40 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > smwood at md.metrocast.net Cc: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Main gear locations > > Sid,I just happen to have measured my locations for mains and nose > wheel the other night to compare to the new project. N357CJ main axle > center line is 7" behind the main spar and the nose wheel axle is 10" in > front of the firewall. I agree that the actual dimension is not in the > instructions but this is where it ends up if all the landing gear parts > that come with the Deihl kit are used in the instructed configuration. I > checked it against the project that I am working on and it is nearly > identical even thought the fuselages are very different. I know that yours > is a KR2 but the location relative to the spar is always going to be the > same. I don't remember that you mentioned the location relative to the spar > but only was it related to the weight and balance stations.Joe Horton > > > > > > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. > > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> Camping at the Chino Airport
Currently there are no camping options for camping at the Chino airport for the gathering, only at near by campgrounds. The insurance requirement that Steve mentioned in the gathering notes will cost $750 for the 3 nights in the grass area at the airport. He is also looking into indoor facilities in a hanger. I have volunteered to take a pole of those going to the gathering and desiring to camp at the gathering site to see if we can come up with the money to cover the insurance costs. If only 10 people agree to pay $75 then that would cover the insurance and the cost for the 3 nights would be less than the $35 per night charges at the nearby campground. If more than 10 want to camp then the per camper cost is even less. Please email me off list at ml.simmons at frontier.com and let me know if you would be interested in camping on site at the gathering. Steve says that the park there will accommodate campers, camp trailers and tents. Once I get an idea of how many would be interested we can determine if covering the insurance cost is a viable option. Please let me know asap as the gathering is only a few weeks away - thanks Mike Simmons
