KR> WAFs for sale

2015-08-01 Thread PatS
I have A unused set I gave $100 for, yours for that plus postage.  Contact me 
off net pshows at bayspringstel.net.

IHS PaTS
Seminary MS

> On Aug 1, 2015, at 04:48, Adam Tippin via KRnet  
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> Does any one have an affordable set of WAFs they are willing to part with,
> before I start the task of making them my self?
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KR> Anyone Near Dallas?

2015-08-01 Thread bjoenunley


I will be in Dallas Texas ?August 2,3 and 4th. ?Does anyone have a KR2 in that 
area?


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KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread s1bedf...@msn.com






I am considering this for first flights, but can you even open a front 
hinged canopy while in the air?
Steven BedfordKR2S-CORVAIRWoodland Park,COs1bedford at msn.com
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> 18 lbs,sit-on emergency chute,$250 from ebay, one training jump. Done. Peter
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KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread peter
Mark; I was surprised how much angle of attack changed the pressure 
distribution over the top of the fuselage. If you are ejecting from your plane, 
and have control, pull back to increase pitch and the canopy should unload. If 
not, stall. That should do it. Peter




Still, I think the answer is "not likely thatyou'll over power the canopy", but 
adrenaline levels might change that.




KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread peter
Steve; Chute is not useable for the first flight. Use it only for the flights 
where you plan on gaining enough altitude to deploy it, where you are exploring 
the envelope, and the first cross-countries. I'm guessing you will find a way 
out in-extremus. Peter





I am considering this for first flights, but can you evenopen a front 
hinged canopy while in the air?Steven 
BedfordKR2S-CORVAIRWoodlandPark,COs1bedford at msn.com 





KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread Mark Langford
Steven Bedford wrote:

 >...but can you even open a front hinged canopy while in the air?

I think I once figured out that I could get about 1 psi pressure boost 
from ram air at 160 mph or so, and assuming a canopy is 30" x 36" (and 
dismissing the fact that it's not really a flat plate, which does 
matter), we're talking over a thousand pounds of pressure at a 90 degree 
opening angle.  I've heard stories of folks taking off with neither side 
latched and the canopy rising maybe 2"-3" at the back and stopping 
there, so that's where the lift and pressure from on-coming air balance 
out (and yes, the weight of the canopy is a minor factor).  Still, I 
think the answer is "not likely that you'll over power the canopy", but 
adrenaline levels might change that.  But as has been mentioned, unless 
you're over the mountains, forest, city (that fits a lot of places), 
flying the plane to the ground usually makes a lot of sense.

As for how many dead-stick landings I've made, well over a thousand. 
Ever since the first one, I've made a habit of chopping the throttle on 
downwind when I'm abeam the approach end of the runway, and then glide 
in the rest of the way.  I shoot for arriving high, then slip if I'm too 
high.  Sometimes I have to goose the throttle, but my goal is to get it 
on the ground smoothly with minimal roll-out...like an emergency 
landing.  Practice makes perfect, or at least improves thing.  If people 
always land at 1500 rpm, they will be in for a surprise when they have 
to land with a stopped prop.  There's a very big difference in glide 
length and how touchdown is handled...

Mark Langford
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KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread Nerobro
Watch out we've got a live one here.
On Aug 1, 2015 2:18 PM, "brian.kraut--- via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Being a glider pilot I have made several hundred dead stick landings so
> I laugh at 27.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: KR> BRS vs Bean Field
> From: Chris Prata via KRnet 
> Date: Fri, July 31, 2015 9:29 am
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Chris Prata 
>
> I'm new here so why wouldnt I believe the 27 number. Mark could have
> been flying a prolific number of hours and for decades. As experimental
> builders/operators, the idea is to try new engineering ideas. I have
> friends who have run into issues with fueling, cooling, you name it. I
> think it's more important to position ones self for successful
> unanticipated landings than to hopelessly believe they cant happen.
> Considering the great job mark did in his Bean field visit, 26 priors
> for practice doesnt seem totally unrealistic! ;)
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KR> WAFs for sale

2015-08-01 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
I have at least one set, possibly two and at least one complete set of
all of the nuts and bolts they use.  I will post them here when I have a
chance to dig them out and see exactly what I have.


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Subject: KR> WAFs for sale
From: Adam Tippin via KRnet 
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Date: Sat, August 01, 2015 2:48 am
To: KRnet 
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Does any one have an affordable set of WAFs they are willing to part
with,
before I start the task of making them my self?



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KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
Being a glider pilot I have made several hundred dead stick landings so
I laugh at 27.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: KR> BRS vs Bean Field
From: Chris Prata via KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, July 31, 2015 9:29 am
To: KRnet 
Cc: Chris Prata 

I'm new here so why wouldnt I believe the 27 number. Mark could have
been flying a prolific number of hours and for decades. As experimental
builders/operators, the idea is to try new engineering ideas. I have
friends who have run into issues with fueling, cooling, you name it. I
think it's more important to position ones self for successful
unanticipated landings than to hopelessly believe they cant happen.
Considering the great job mark did in his Bean field visit, 26 priors
for practice doesnt seem totally unrealistic! ;)



KR> Blanks/BRS

2015-08-01 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
LOL.  In that case the BRS would not have helped since I was never high
enough to deploy it.

What it really comes down to is that you can be prepared for a hundred
different situations you can get into, but the thing that gets you might
just be the one you did not prepare for.  Heck, the thing that gets you
just might be because of your preparations such as a passenger pulling
the BRS handle at a most inopportune time like just before clearing the
trees at the approach end of the runway during a normal landing.  

We all need to evaluate the flying we normally do and figure out what
makes sense for us within our budget, weight allowance, and a hundred
other factors.  For some of us a BRS makes a lot of sense.  For others
it does not, but don't make that decision based on just what you read
from some posts from different people flying different planes in
different situations.  Evaluating your own needs and acting accordingly
is what makes you not a weenie.


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Subject: Re: KR> Blanks
From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, July 30, 2015 5:02 pm
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Cc: Mark Langford 



 >You are going to get a lot of flaming arrows for this post, but I for
one agree with most of what you said.>

My comment was "This says a lot coming from a guy that's "landed" a KR2 
in a tree!"





KR> Blanks

2015-08-01 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
I use Godaddy and it defaults to HTML unless I remember to click on the
tab for plain text.  When I forget to do that the mail comes through
blank.  Sometimes I see that I sent a blank email and I resend it
correctly.  Sometimes I see it and by that point it is not that
important anymore and I don't bother to resend. 


 Original Message 
Subject: KR> Blanks
From: Mike Stirewalt via KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, July 30, 2015 4:31 pm
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Cc: laser147 at juno.com

Two of the most knowledgable netters whose posts are always worth
reading, Langford and Brian Kraut, frequently leave posts which are
blank. I doubt in most cases they even know their posts are coming
through as blanks since how often do these busy people take the time to
go back and read a post to see if it made it through the system okay? 
The phenomenon of blank emails is probably not even noticable to the
poster unless they're using digest mode.



KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 199

2015-08-01 Thread Randall Smith
I might have a set. I took bud Wilson's KR apart a couple years ago. I'll look 
in the hanger this afternoon. If I do I'll post it.

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>   4. Re:  BRS vs Bean Field (John Martindale)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:17:32 -0500
> From: bjoenunley 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: laser147 at juno.com
> Subject: Re: KR> BRS vs Bean Field
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> 
> Its ok, I have exaggerated over 1000 times myself...
> Mike at KSEE said; "If Chris can take that seriously I guess others can too.? 
> Sheesh.? If I
> had said 37 or 47 would it have worked better?? For the double digit
> crowd out there please know using exagerration is a common and sometimes
> amusing way to make a point but when you have to explain it it's not
> funny anymore.?? Bad judgment on my part and probably bad humor as well .
> . . I can read it and smile though so clearly I'm warped." ?
> 
> Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  
> Date: 07/31/2015  1:01 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
> Cc: laser147 at juno.com 
> Subject: KR> BRS vs Bean Field 
> 
> Chris Prata said, 
> 
>> "As to Mark's 27 forced landings, well, wow. But then again he has lots
> (!) of hours so how many hours between forced landings? and these are
> *experimental* planes, made to learn with."
> 
> If Chris can take that seriously I guess others can too.? Sheesh.? If I
> had said 37 or 47 would it have worked better?? For the double digit
> crowd out there please know using exagerration is a common and sometimes
> amusing way to make a point but when you have to explain it it's not
> funny anymore.?? Bad judgment on my part and probably bad humor as well .
> . . I can read it and smile though so clearly I'm warped.? 
> 
> For the record I have no idea how many forced landings Mark has had.? No
> more or less than anybody else who flies Experimental airplanes.? Since
> he advertises his misfortunes so that we may learn from his experiences,
> clowns like me can come along and exagerrate things for amusement.?? 
> Sorry!! 
> 
> **
> 
> I learned in reading an article on the subject years ago that one of the
> earliest signs in detecting Alzheimer's is the inability to understand
> irony.?? Also lost by early Alzheimer's candidates is the capacity to not
> take seriously things which are obviously and outrageously untrue, simply
> because they are said in a serious manner.? People in the early and later
> stages of Alzheimers would be able to watch an episode of Laugh In and
> not have the slightest idea why the audience thinks what Goldie Hawn or
> Rowan and Martin are saying is funny.? 
> 
> Chris is going to hate me now.? Probably others too.? I'll put myself on
> restriction if you want.? Probably a good idea.? I've been bad.? 
> ? 
> Mike
> KSEE
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> I'm new here so why wouldnt I believe the 27 number. Mark could have been 
> flying a prolific number of hours and for decades. As experimental 
> builders/operators, the idea is to try new engineering ideas. I have friends 
> who have run into issues with fueling, cooling, you name it.  I think it's 
> more important to 

KR> BRS vs Bean Field

2015-08-01 Thread John Martindale
Hi Chris

Ya just gotta include all of Mark's bounces...sorry Mark :-)

John Martindale
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Toormina NSW 2452
Australia

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I'm new here so why wouldnt I believe the 27 number. 



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KR> WAFs for sale

2015-08-01 Thread Adam Tippin
Does any one have an affordable set of WAFs they are willing to part with,
before I start the task of making them my self?





KR> WAFs for sale

2015-08-01 Thread ppaulvsk
Adam,If you end up making your own like I did. You can start by calling Wicks 
Aircraft and ask for Keith and mention me from Bellevelle. If you buy ?the 
piece of normalized 4130 steel. He will cut it down into the three sizes you 
need. You end up with vary little scrap.?My son might still have the the C an C 
program for the holes that I used. You can take that to a machine shop. I 
wouldn't try to drill the lightning holes your self.
Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705?
Does any one have an affordable set of WAFs they are willing to part with,
before I start the task of making them my self?
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