KR> KR2S Project For Sale

[Jon Finley]

Sorry, try it again now.

If that doesn't work, browse to http://www.finleyweb.net then "KR3S Project
For Sale" under the "Home" link.

Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of Eric j Pitts
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:18 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Project For Sale
> 
> Your link did not work.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jon Finley <j...@finleyweb.net> wrote:
> 
> > Howdy,
> >
> >
> >
> > Life has been more than interesting over the last year and it seems
> that
> > course is going to continue. So, without having any control, I need
> to sell
> > the project that I recently acquired. It is listed on my web site at
> the
> > following link:
> >
> > http://www.finleyweb.net/Home/KR2SProjectForSale.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Please email me at jon at finleyweb dot net if interested and able to
> pick
> > her up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Location: E98 - Mid Valley Airpark - Los Lunas, NM 87031
> >
> > Asking Price: $750.00
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon Finley
> >
> > N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
> >
> > http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> KR2S Project For Sale

[Jon Finley]

Howdy,



Life has been more than interesting over the last year and it seems that
course is going to continue. So, without having any control, I need to sell
the project that I recently acquired. It is listed on my web site at the
following link:

http://www.finleyweb.net/Home/KR2SProjectForSale.aspx



Please email me at jon at finleyweb dot net if interested and able to pick
her up.



Location: E98 - Mid Valley Airpark - Los Lunas, NM 87031

Asking Price: $750.00



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

RE: KR> powdercoating parts

[Jon Finley]

I understand that powder coating aluminum parts can severly reduce their 
strength (depending on the alloy and temperature used) due to the heating 
process.  I don't have any references at hand but I would study this before 
coating strength critical aluminum parts.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: "Randy Smith" 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:45pm
To: "KRnet" 
Subject: RE: KR> powdercoating parts

I had my engine mount and retractable gear legs on my 47 Bellanca Cruiseair 
powder coated when I restored the plane in 2000. I was told that cracks would 
not show by some but the APIA I used said it was alright. A year ago I had oil 
on the floor below my gear. I pulled the gear and with no trouble found the 
gear cracked at the top. Cleaned it off welded it and had the gear powder 
coated again.

--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Mark  wrote:

RE: KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[Jon Finley]

"I've already heard some of the negatives from others, but does anyone have a 
list of positives?"


1. Massive power increase potential.
2. Really kewl "glow in the dark" feature (also glows in the light if desired).
3. Helps keep the engine compartment warm.
4. Allows you to add a neato "TURBO" sticker to your cowling.
5. Allows you to add all sorts of new things to your wish list (oxygen system, 
in-flight adjustable prop, electrically heated seats, etc...).

... that's all I can think of but there is probably more.
  Jon Finley 
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx 

RE: KR> Panel layouts

[Jon Finley]

Hi Craig,

It is nearly impossible (for me) to give any thoughts without knowing what your 
mission is for this aircraft.

For example; 
1. If VFR, why would you want the weight (and wasted panel space) of "analog" 
guages (particularly the gyro) when you have a Dynon?   If IFR, well... that is 
a larger discussion.

2. An engine monitor is far and away many times "better" than analog engine 
instruments.  If using what you have, fine.

3. A moving map GPS is immensily valuable for any type of flying (situational 
awareness). Why not include it in your panel (design)?

Jon


-Original Message-
From: "Craig Williams" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:49am
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Panel layouts

Been tinkering with a new old style panel design and I have 3 versions so far. 
I tried to stay with the standard T configuration but I have room to move and 
mix. My thinking right now is to make this main panel all flight 
instrumentation and put the engine and nav displays to the sides. Nav CRT on 
left and eng steam gauges on right. Take a look and I sure would like to get 
your thoughts on panel layouts.   

http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver1.jpg
http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver2.jpg
http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver3.jpg


Thanks
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com

Re: KR> VW True HP

[Jon Finley]

Hi Jose,

Yes, a turbo is magical at creating torque! Oh ok, there is nothing magical 
about it  

Obvisously, there are many different ways to run a turbocharged engine. If we 
are talking about normalization and/or very slight boost, a turbo'd engine will 
provide more "output" that a non-turbo'd engine for any given useable RPM. 
However; that is a gross oversimplification (with lots of assumptions) so not 
worth much.

My position on your original question is that there are a few people who have a 
great deal of experience and this tends to make their "guesses/estimates" more 
accurate. However; there are many, many people just making wild guesses 
(homebuilders, marketing folks, conversion companies, etc...). Because of this, 
I don't believe anyone until I see dyno numbers.  

The ACCURATE recording of aicraft/engine performance and comparison to similar 
aircraft seems to be a reasonable basis for comparison of power. However; every 
(homebuilt) airplane is different  so this is only a "ball parking" excercise 
in my opinion. Additionally, you are usually comparing to another aircraft with 
an engine who's output has never actually been measured so the whole excercise 
is questionable.  Another "ball parking" tool is accurate recording of fuel 
burn.

I admit, I live in a world of absolutes and precision - not everyone sees the 
world this way.  In short, when someone tells me that their engine produces 84 
hp but cannot produce a dyno sheet and/or tell me under what conditions it 
produces that power, I do not believe them (it may be more or it may be less).

Jon





-Original Message-
From: "Jose Fuentes" 
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 7:24am
To: "KRnet" 
Subject: Re: KR> VW True HP

Thanks Mark,

Tell me, with a direct drive 2400cc VW motor, does a turbo have any effect
on HP at prop speed?

Joe

KR> fuel system fittings

[Jon Finley]

Hi Dene,

I think you hit the important points and, without saying it, know that this
is yet another of the many "scary old tales" that exist in aviation. 

I have flown five different engines in my two homebuilts (something around
1000 hours combined) and I have never had any problems with rubber hose and
barb fittings - nor the FAA about those hoses/fittings.  On my EFI
installation, I use rubber hose made for high-pressure use and double
Oetiker clamps (and, of course, fire sleeve).

I agree that the barb fittings make removal difficult/impossible so when I
have to remove it, I usually replace the hose. For some sections, this is at
annual when fuel filters are replaced.

I would like to have braided steel lines because they look so neat but the
added cost is not worth it to me (something around $500 for my EFI
installation).  Particularly when the only fuel line related accidents that
I have personally seen have involved braided steel lines. Understand, that
is not an accident study - just my observations.  I suspect a fire-sleeved,
braided steel hose will probably last longer under a "direct fire" scenario.
In reality, I wonder if that means anything (the guy with the rubber hose is
on fire 5 minutes before the braided steel guy but neither of them had any
warning so both are in the same pickle) - probably one of a thousand
scenarios that a person could lean on.

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx





> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+jon=finleyweb@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-
> bounces+jon=finleyweb@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dene Collett
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:38 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> fuel system fittings
> 
> Guys
> I know this is a contraversal and sometimes touchy subject but I need
> some clarity.
> There is widespread condemnation of the practise of using barbed
> fittings and hose clamps in an aircraft's fuel system plumbing. Could
> somebody in the know please tell me why this is so. I can't think of
> any reason why using a good quality reinforced "rubber" hose with fire
> sleeve over it (forward of the firewall) would be in any way inferior
> to using aluminuim piping and AN fittings. In the event of a mishap and
> things move around, I can't see how the solid installation will be
> superior to the rubber hose as it will not have near as much
> flexibility to absorb the movement. I would imagine that an aluminuim
> pipe would be much more prone to cracking and leaking when kinked.
> 
> Over here the practise of using barbed fittings and flexible hose is
> almost universal unless you are assembling a RV kit which comes with
> all the appropriate AN fittings.
>  Am I missing something here?
> 
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa

KR> RE: Mike Mimms (was O235 - prop combo)

[Jon Finley]

I remember Mike Mimms (sp) from many years ago but he seems to have 
disappeared. Does anyone know what happened, where he went?

Thx,

Jon

-Original Message-



Or an o-290
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/engine.html

RE: KR> gear weight

[Jon Finley]

Craig,

This is not what you are asking for but might be a useful data point

I just happen to have my gear off.  The casting, leg, Cleveland 5x5's, tire, 
tube, and brake (the whole shebang just unbolted from the spar) weighs 24 lbs 
(no pant or fairings).

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
[http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

-Original Message-
From: "Craig Williams" <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 8:57am
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> gear weight

Anyone know a weight for the DIEHL gear? So far my gear still looks to be 
coming in around 15 lbs each and I want to compare.

Thanks
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com

KR> Flying Video

[Jon Finley]

Hi all,



I apologize if you get this more than once, I have posted it to a couple
different groups. Also, the video was taken from my Q2 so it really has
nothing to do with KR's.  However; I thought it might serve as motivation to
someone to get busy on your KR!!  I guess it did for me as I spent most of
Saturday afternoon glassing on my KR2S (taking advantage of some warm
outside weather).



This year's video attempts have all been miserable failures.  I cannot seem
to get a camera mount position that I like or footage that is very good
(using my shoestring budget camera).  I tried again this past Friday and
Saturday on the way to/from breakfast and got some footage that I almost
like.  It is far from good quality but maybe someone will enjoy it.  I am
still (occasionally) working on better...  My editing skills are also low
but I am slowly learning - don't expect Hollywood quality.



Two videos:

1. Some hill flying footage. http://www.vimeo.com/17481531



2. Footage of the tight traffic pattern than I mentioned in an email a
couple of weeks ago. http://www.vimeo.com/17482681

This was made as a result of an email I sent to the Quickie guys encouraging
them NOT to fly 747 patterns (long story,  it seems a great many pilots like
to do that...).



Enjoy,



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

RE: KR> Warp Drive 3-blade Ground Adjustable CF Prop

[Jon Finley]

Hi Dave,

I have been flying behind one for about 450 hours. My application is probably 
unique so I submit that you may want to take my report with a grain of salt.

My prop is small diameter 54" and high rpm (cruise in the 4300 rpm range).  I 
had my blades profiled for high rpm use by Gary Hunter (former Pushy Galore 
crew chief).  The prop works. However; I believe that it is far from 
optimal/efficient.  With that in mind, I would not be scared to use the prop 
but I would not have high expectations for performance.  The ground 
adjustability is sometimes worth that price.  Plan to spend a bunch of time 
initially getting it setup correctly (proper pitch, all blades at the same 
pitch, tracking, etc...).

BTW; I have heard it said quite a number of times that carbon fiber props 
should not be used on VW engines.  I do not know if this applies to Revmasters 
and/or if anyone has actually studied this problem or it is just an old wives 
tale (I suspect the latter).  I do not wish to spread rumors, neither do I care 
to read you had a crank break and destroyed your plane. Steve Bennett can 
probably clear this up in short order.

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
[http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx



-Original Message-
From: "Dave Dunwoodie" <ddunw...@fnwusers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:03pm
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Warp Drive 3-blade Ground Adjustable CF Prop

Does anybody have any experience or thoughts about this prop? This 
would be mated to a Revmaster 2100.

Thanks

Dave.

RE: KR> Landing Lights

[Jon Finley]

All,

I have not been following super close so apologize if already mentioned.

The new LED landing lights are expensive but SUPER small and rugged. I have a 
friend that installed one that is a small rectangle shape and puts out a gob of 
light (I know that is pretty imprecise). I would go that route if doing this 
myself.
Jon



-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
erickelshei...@att.net
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:17
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Landing Lights

   With proper fairing in of the light no matter where they are 
mounted, be it gear leg , wheel pant, belly of the fuselage, leading edge of 
the wing. They could be made to follow the flight path of the plane with a 
microswitch and motor similar to the one used to set and adjust the trim tab's 
on some of the KR's that are flying. Once set the beam of light would follow 
the flight path of the plane and auto adjust to flight attitude within the 
given ability of motor travel used. Which if memory serves, in some was the 
electric mirror adjusting motor from car's and truck's. 

Eric Von Kelsheimer

Re: KR> Instrument Panel Wiring

[Jon Finley]

All,

I hope everyone is familiar with the AeroElectric Connection and Bob Nuckolls 
work.  The Connection has created a number of "recipes" for fault tolerant 
electric systems along with gobs of good information.  There is no reason for 
any homebuilt to have an electrical system fault that causes an emergency.

[http://www.aeroelectric.com] http://www.aeroelectric.com

Jon Finley


-Original Message-
From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@frontier.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:00pm
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Instrument Panel Wiring

At 08:37 AM 10/29/2010, you wrote:
>This wire goes from this terminal here to the
>terminal over there. I can do that. Ok, leave enough slack to make a
>bundle for support. Run the next wire along the length of the first wire.
>Next thing I realize, hey I'm wiring the panel.
>Sid Wood

KR> Digital Inboard Wing Template (RAF)?

[Jon Finley]

Does anyone have a digital version of the Inboard Wing Template (or a link)
for the original airfoil?  



Yes, I do have the paper version and I do know how to do the copy, cut,
align, paste thing.



Thanks,



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> Diehl Main Gear?

[Jon Finley]

Howdy,



This seems to be a really dumb question since I cannot find reference to it
in the archives but I have to ask anyway.



Is the same Diehl Main Gear used for both the tail-dragger and nose-dragger
(yes, tricycle) configurations (one mounted to the front of the spar and the
other on the aft face)?  



I am asking as I have the Diehl Main Gear setup for a nose-dragger.  I would
kinda like to change it to a tail-dragger. I think this is as simple (knock
on wood) as removing the gear, swapping sides, and mounting it to the
forward face of the spar.



Appreciate comments.



Thanks,



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> Glass Layups - Peel Ply and Paint

[Jon Finley]

Hi all,

I suspect everyone here already knows this but I thought I'd throw it out there 
just in case.

When doing glass layups you MUST propertly prepare the surface onto which the 
glass is being bonded.  Without going into the details of what "prepare" means, 
please know that at a minimum it includes REMOVING the peel ply from the 
previous layup and/or paint/primer/gel coat.

Yeah, I know.  Silly right!?!?  Well, at least one guy (the guy that built 
and/or worked on my KR2S project) did not know about this.  There was more peel 
ply INSIDE the rudder layups that you would believe (it is down to a couple of 
sticks now...) and the turtledeck glass peeled off like the skin coming off a 
banana (due to the paint/primer/gel coat).

I now better understand those folks that won't ride in a homebuilt....  :-(

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
[http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> Stub Wings - Plywood Skin

[Jon Finley]

Hi all,



The project that I have has plywood covered stub wings but I can find no
mention of this in the plans.  Was this ever considered an acceptable
option?



The answer to the above probably doesn't matter as I do not care for the
quality of construction so am going to remove and reconstruct the stub wing
skin. However; knowing the answer might make me feel better while tearing
them apart! J



Thanks!



P.S. New photo at the top of http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff.aspx - me
providing cover escort for a Cessna driver on the way home from breakfast
yesterday.



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

RE: KR> cockpit heat

[Jon Finley]

Craig,

My 1835cc VW powered Quickie (Q1) from years ago had cockpit heat from the top 
mount oil cooler.  Worked fine. I flew as cold as -10 F and it helped keep me 
thawed but certainly NOT toasty warm at that OAT.

I know of no negatives and would suggest the best approach boils down to what 
is "easiest" to implement on YOUR airplane (for me, an exhaust muff was not an 
option). I have never read of a comparison of heat "quantity" available from 
the two options so can't comment on that.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: "Craig Williams" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 9:24pm
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> cockpit heat

After meeting with Mark Jones and seeing his plane last weekend I came up with 
the idea to use the heat output of the oil cooler for cockpit heat. Any 
thoughts on why this may not be a good idea? Pro's are: no CO2, the h eat is 
already available if you mount the cooler like Mark did on the firewall. Al you 
really need is an airbox flapper valve to redirect the air out into the cockpit.

Craig




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KR> Lengthen Horizontal Stabilizer?

[Jon Finley]

Mark,

I could not tell for sure what Troy did from his pictures so good to get the
scoop. Now that I look again, I see the word "extended" on the caption so
must have been my learning disability rearing its head again! ;-)

So, to be really clear. It is "acceptable" to extend the per-plans
horizontal stabilizer six inches on each side by glassing on a "long tip".
No need to extend the spars. 

Thanks,

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx


> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of Mark Langford
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:10 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Lengthen Horizontal Stabilizer?
> 
> Steven Bedford wrote:
> 
> > Checkout Jeff Scott's website click on tail mods.
> > http://jscott.comlu.com/KR/KRmods.html
> 
> And Troy Petteway has done the same thing (http://www.n56ml.com/troy/).
> Just "shell it" in two layers of carbon fiber for a few inches on each
> side.
> That's how I did my Hoerner tips also...
> 
> Mark Langford
> N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Control Stick Drawings - Side Stick

[Jon Finley]

All,

Does anyone have more pictures or drawings of the control stick assembly 
pictured here:
[http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/custom.html] 
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/custom.html

BTW: I have already sent Phillip a PM on this (he was going to see what he 
could find).

I am looking to build a mechanism that results in a side stick arrangement (in 
a KR1.5) with the elevator control running beside the pilot (sitting in the 
center) and back to the elevator cables (on the aft side of the rear spar).  
It's a fairly simple arrangement to come up with but I'm interesting in seeing 
what has worked for others before reinventing the wheel.

Thanks,

Jon

KR> Lengthen Horizontal Stabilizer?

[Jon Finley]

Hi all,

I have a stock width horizontal stabilizer and would like to lengthen it. My 
research shows those that have done this have built a new stabilizer.  Is it 
possible to just extend the existing stabilizer?  I am not a structural 
engineer (so be gentle please) but can imagine the problems that this would 
create (since the spar would not extend to the tip).  

If it is possible/acceptable, any tips/links would sure be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
[http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> Introduction

[Jon Finley]

Hello all,
New guy here Jon Finley from Mid Valley Airpark near Los Lunas, NM.  I have 
built/flown a Quickie and Q2. I am still flying the Q2 with Subaru power.  My 
website on this is http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx if interested. I?ve 
been doing the homebuilt ?thing? since the late 80?s.
I have acquired a previously flying KR2S project. She is in pretty rough shape 
but looks save-able. I am going to return her to service as a wide-body 
single-seater (I?m not sure if there is an ?official? term for that 
configuration). 
I did not get plans/construction manual with this project. If anyone has a 
used/"pre-owned" set for sale (versus buying new), please send me a PM (jon at 
finleyweb dot net). I know the plans have marginal value after the basic 
construction is complete but I would still like to have a set.
Not relevant but possibly of interest?.  I test flew a KR2 for a guy many, many 
years ago.  The flight consisted of a sputter of the engine at rotation speed, 
pulling back the power, the airplane shot straight up, I pushed the stick 
forward, the plane shot straight down, I pulled the stick back, we hit the 
runway.  No damage, end of my KR flying experience.  Also, in the early 90?s, I 
picked up the wreckage of a friend?s KR2 that stall/spun on final (don?t do 
that).
Thanks,

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx