KR> Sun shade

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I just got the word that Van's Aircraft, the Dutchman up in Oregon who 
produces the RV Kits now has a sun shade system designed for bubble or tear 
drop canopies.  Those of you who live in Texas or anywhere in the country where 
the summer sun is murder when flying under one of these great visibility 
canopies might be interested in looking into getting one of these.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1152368111-132-408=airframe=koger-shade

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

KR> Frasca Flyin

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Great pictures, I still think you have the best digital camera on the 
market from the quality of the pictures you take with it.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: KR> Frasca Flyin


> NetHeads,
>
> I've whipped up a few pictures that I made at the Frasca Flyin.  It's 
> mostly
> about flying there and back, but there's probably a message in there
> somewhere.  Spare me the weather warningsI'm smarter now than I was
> then!  See
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/frasca2006/
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
>
>
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KR> Oshkosh Reading

[Robert L. Stone]

Linda,
 Just a thought, KR aircraft are so small and light that prop wash on 
the ground can damage one very easy.  This happened to Ken Rand at Chino 
Airport back in 1977.  All small very light aircraft should be parked if 
possible in a place where this is least likely to happen.  In other words, 
away from the larger aircraft.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
EAA 0395065


- Original Message - 
From: "Linda Warner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Reading


> You're all right about most of the guys in the tower etc not getting the 
> type of airplane right. But it's not because they aren't trying. These 
> guys are from all over the country... and how many tower operators ever 
> see that many home builts?
>
> I'm a helper with the welcome wagons at Oshkosh and we're on the same 
> radio freq as the folks who direct and park the planes as they come in.
> Now there's a group who know their planes!!
>
> It's been my finding that the KR's get parked right close to the 
> announcers stand by the arched entrance to the flight line.
> That is, if they are there early. After the show starts, it's hard for 
> them to know where there is a hole to stick someone into.
>
> AND, we're ALL volunteers. Not a paid person out on the field.
>
> It takes over 4000 of us volunteers to put that show on, and we all try 
> our best.
>
> So if some of you feel mis treated or neglected, you're welcome to come 
> and volunteer yourself. That way you will see the situation from the other 
> side.
>
> See ya all in Oshkosh.
>
> John Sickafoose
> Naples, Fl
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Kraut
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:20 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Reading
>
> My KR was always called a Glassair, the Midget Mustang is always called an
> RV, and the Clipper and Pacer are always called Cubs.  When I get the 
> Pitts
> done they will probably get it right.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Kenneth B. Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:01 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Reading
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I'm not sure what this says about your plane, but they called me a 
> Glassair
> at KOSH last year.  :-)
>
> Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
> Sharonville, OH
> N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig, KR-2
> KHAO
>
>
> > I knew my place though, as he kept calling me "yellow
>> Glasair"...
>>
>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
>
>
>
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KR> Insurance

[Robert L. Stone]

Hay guys,
 Who knows of a good insurance company???

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

KR> Insurance

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 To all of you guys who responded to my qwuestion about insurance. 

 THANKS MUCH

 It looks like the rates are spread very far apart and how much an 
individual pilot is going to have to pay depends on flying experence in 
general, flight time in the last year, time in the airplane being insured, 
ratings, and his age.
I got responses of a low of $400.00 to $1,275.00 for one year of coverage

Bob Stone

KR> Insurance

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Thanks for the information.  I will contact Allstate and see what they 
are willing to do for me.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Insurance


>I have had Allstate for the last 30 years for homeowners, life and auto
> coverage. I obtained quite a hefty life ins policy from them and for an
> additional $54 adder they added experimental aviation and even told me
> if I jumped out of an airplane with no chute on I would still be
> covered. In other words, no matter how I die or regardless of what I am
> doing, my family will reap the rewards. I also have the max coverage
> through AOPA which is $200K. So, talk to your carrier because you may
> qualify for multi-policy benefits.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web site: www.flykr2s.com
> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Jack Cooper
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:15 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: RE: KR> Insurance
>
>
> Try getting life insurance with experimental airplane pilot on the
> application. It can be done but will be costly. Don't ask how I know..
>
> Jack Cooper
> kr2coo...@earthlink.net
> Fayetteville. NC.
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Barry Kruyssen <k...@bigpond.com>
>> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Date: 7/5/2006 5:51:28 PM
>> Subject: RE: KR> Insurance
>>
>> There is no such thing as a "good" insurance company :-)
>>
>> Sorry, couldn't help myself.
>>
>> Barry Kruyssen
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf
>> Of Robert L. Stone
>> Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 5:22 AM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: KR> Insurance
>>
>> Hay guys,
>>  Who knows of a good insurance company???
>>
>>
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KR> Decorative plastic strips

[Robert L. Stone]

Members,
 I have been looking all over the country for a manufactur or supplier of 
decorative plactic strips to use on my aircraft and have not been able to find 
any.  If any of you still have the series of pictures of the last gathering 
take a look at the two KR-2s belonging to Bill Clapp and Briyan Douglas.  Both 
look like the decorative materials are plastic striping.  I hope one of you can 
help me find what I am looking for.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

KR> Decorative plastic strips

[Robert L. Stone]

Bill,
 You did a dam good job.  It looks professional and since you are a body 
man I am not supprised.  I built a KR-2 way back in 1974 to 1977 and my wife 
refused to fly in it because it was made of wood and foam.  The one I am 
building now is the ZodiacXL and I will send you an e-mail with the 
attachment showing how I want it to look when I am finished.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Decorative plastic strips


> Just as a bit of information on my Kr - the red is painted on (candy apple
> three stage) with a clear coat.  The only sticker are the N numbers on the
> tail.  A little work to tape and paint but as a body guy it was  easy. 
> Bill
> Clapp
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KR> Photos-

[Robert L. Stone]

Bobby,
 Get someone on the Net that has a web site, and there are many to 
publish your pictures.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: KR> Photos-


> Guys,
> I have some photos that would probably interest at least some of you.
> I tried to attach a couple to some of the e-mails to the list, but it
> didn't take them. Is there an easy way for a non computer literate
> person to do this?   Bobby
>
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KR> Construction manual?

[Robert L. Stone]

Cris,
 If you want a detailed very complete builders manual for the KR2S, take 
a look at Mark Langfords web site and you will find information so complete, 
you can build from it.   http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Cris." 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:16 AM
Subject: KR> Construction manual?


> Did anybody have the idea to write a "construction manual" for the KR2S? I
> mean, something to keep near the plans and the original manual, with true
> and more visible pictures, tips and tricks, something to follow while
> building?
>
> I understand this could seem a crazy idea. RR owns the intellectual 
> property
> of plans and manual, I don't know if they'll like it. But looking at some 
> of
> your websites I think that there's such a large amount of precious
> documentation and images that would be fantastic to have it organized in a
> book. Ok, my two cents.
>
> I slowly developed a commitment to build my KR "per plans", dimensions
> included. I am not that tall, nor fat, so I wish to build as Ken Rand
> intended to. Some modifications will be done since the technology and the
> materials have evolved, but I'll try to stick to the plans as much as I 
> can.
>
> Cris.
> Roma (Italy)
> Wanna-builder. New house is coming. Plans in the bookshelf.
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KR> Paint Run

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I am sure the only way to fix a run is to wait for it to get dry and 
then sand and feather it out with three or four hundred grit and re-shoot. 
Be sure when you re-shoot that you use the same batch of paint otherwise it 
may not match.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: KR> Paint Run


>I have a question for you paint experts. I have a run on my vertical 
>stabilizer. At first I did not worry about it but it is beginning to bother 
>me that it is there since it is the only one on my plane. What is the 
>proper procedure to remove a run?
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com 
> 
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
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KR> Paint Run

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I never thought of a decal but now that someone else has, I know of a 
good one.  Al Gore for Latrine Orderly, or Al Gore for Usher to the Flusher. 
Either one will do.
Now watch all the liberal Democrats flame me.  I am going to send you a 
third off net.

Bob Stone


--- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Paint Run


> Actually, the tail graphics hide it some. You are right, I have more
> important things to worry about. I submitted the Gathering listings to
> Landings, Barnstormers and Avweb today.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Flesner" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Paint Run
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > >I have a question for you paint experts. I have a run on my vertical
>> > >stabilizer.
>> >  What is the
>> > >proper procedure to remove a run?
>> > > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> ++
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Put a big decal over it and go fly.  There are more important things in
>> life to worry about.  :-) The primer spots on my left wing take 
>> absolutely
>> no joy away from fly my KR.  It's only on the ground when I"m looking at
>> it that it bothers me, just a little bit.
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
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>
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KR> Tail Graphics

[Robert L. Stone]

Hay Mark,
 Here is a Texas compliment,   

That flying mochine of yours sho is a hansom critter.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: KR> Tail Graphics


> Just in case anyone is interested  :-)  here is a link which shows the tail 
> graphics I just applied.
> http://flykr2s.com/photo.html
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA 
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
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KR> Looking for complete KR2 TW or RT for sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Bill,
 Check Barnstormers, there quite often KR2 aircraft listed for sale
http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?PHPSESSID=2ef94a86daa861b6da018683153522ef

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Vose" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:39 AM
Subject: KR> Looking for complete KR2 TW or RT for sale


>I would like to find a KR2 in flying condition. I'm only interested in Tail 
>wheel or retract with electrical system, heat, and at least 90HP. I'm 
>located in NE PA, but would travel anywhere in lower 48 for the right 
>aircraft. Electric start is not a must but would be nice. Continental or 
>Lycoming would also be preferred. A transponder, radio, nav and landing 
>lights, or gyro panel would all be a plus. My goal is to have a fast 
>economical cross country aircraft. Please only send info on flying aircraft 
>of this type in good condition. billv...@yahoo.com  or 570-427-4035 Thanks, 
>Bill
>
> -
> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
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KR> KR's for Sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Hay Bryan,
 Maybe he just glued in one stick a month.  Lets see 32 X 12 = 384.  How 
many sticks are there in a KR2.  Noah had a deadline, he knew that the flood 
was coming.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re: KR> KR's for Sale


> 32 years to build a boat?  How long did Noah take?
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:46 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: Re: KR> KR's for Sale
>
>
>i AM 73. STARTED kr 1 IN 1974. When it is done , I WILL FLY IT,
> Virg
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 20:01:47 -0600 "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
> writes:
>> Ron,
>>  If I was 27, the answer would be not yes but hell yes but I am
>> 77 so I
>> think my days of blasting around in anything are over.
>>
>> Bob Stone
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Ron Hoskins" <r5...@netzero.net>
>> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Fw: Re: KR> KR's for Sale
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob Stone wrote...
>> >
>> > Mark,
>> > I have a feeling that a good many builders decide after
>> building and
>> > flying their KR for a time that they really need a four place so
>> they sell
>> > out and end up in a four place spam can.  I am one of those who
>> did just
>> > that.
>> >
>> > Bob Stone
>> >
>> > Hey Bob...
>> > Dont you think you should build a KR1 so you can get out and blast
>> around
>> > like a fighter pilot for fun???
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron Hoskins
>> > Chattaroy, Wa.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
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>> >
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>
>
> Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
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> Miami ,Fl
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KR> KR's for Sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Bobby,
 Mr Wittman was a better flyer than I ever will be.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: <bo...@hatconversions.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: Re: KR> KR's for Sale


> Bob,
>Mr. Wittman still had his low level acrobatic waiver at 92Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> 32 years to build a boat?  How long did Noah take?
>>
>> Brian Kraut
>> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>> www.engalt.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>> Behalf Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:46 PM
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>> Subject: Re: Re: KR> KR's for Sale
>>
>>
>> i AM 73. STARTED kr 1 IN 1974. When it is done , I WILL FLY IT,
>> Virg
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 20:01:47 -0600 "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
>> writes:
>>> Ron,
>>>  If I was 27, the answer would be not yes but hell yes but I am
>>> 77 so I
>>> think my days of blasting around in anything are over.
>>>
>>> Bob Stone
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ron Hoskins" <r5...@netzero.net>
>>> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:36 PM
>>> Subject: Fw: Re: KR> KR's for Sale
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bob Stone wrote...
>>> >
>>> > Mark,
>>> > I have a feeling that a good many builders decide after
>>> building and
>>> > flying their KR for a time that they really need a four place so
>>> they sell
>>> > out and end up in a four place spam can.  I am one of those who
>>> did just
>>> > that.
>>> >
>>> > Bob Stone
>>> >
>>> > Hey Bob...
>>> > Dont you think you should build a KR1 so you can get out and blast
>>> around
>>> > like a fighter pilot for fun???
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ron Hoskins
>>> > Chattaroy, Wa.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
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>>> >
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>>>
>>
>>
>> Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
>> www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
>> Miami ,Fl
>>
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KR> Exhaust for sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 There has been a little discussion on the net about including your name 
and location when posting a message.  Some people are afraid this will cause 
their past to catch up with them and others have other reasons, however when 
anyone posts an add selling something and wants the buyer to pay shipping, 
then location is important because it effects the total cost of obtaining 
the merchandice.  A good example is the add by Gary.  So Gary how about 
telling prospective buyers where you are located so they can estimate 
shipping cost.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx  (I have nothing to hide also)
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "olson gary" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:54 AM
Subject: KR> Exhaust for sale


>I have a brand new Great Plains KR Tri-gear exhaust system for sale. This
> came with a Type 1 VW engine from G.P.. I am not installing this in a KR 
> so
> I have limited use for it. This sells in GP for over $300 plus delivery. 
> If
> any is in need of such a system let me know and give me a reasonable 
> offer.
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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KR> Once Again....

[Robert L. Stone]

 I know who you are you rascal

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



  - Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ross" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Once Again


> 
> 
> bob  wrote:
> ...
>  Not to mention that psychotic
> ex-girlfriend from high school 30 years ago, and her illegitimate kid
> that thinks you're his dad. I don't put a lot of effort into hiding my
> identity, but I sure as hell ain't going to make it easy for them either.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> Crap, I thought no one else knew about her...
>  Okay, I'm not signing this one
> 
> 
> -
> Brings words and photos together (easily) with
> PhotoMail  - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
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KR> KR's for Sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I have a feeling that a good many builders decide after building and 
flying their KR for a time that they really need a four place so they sell 
out and end up in a four place spam can.  I am one of those who did just 
that.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: KR> KR's for Sale


>I was just on Barnstormers www.barnstormers.com and there are 12 KR's there 
>for sale. Some of the names selling these KR's are well known names in the 
>KR family. Personally, I was surprised to see a couple of these who are 
>selling their plane.
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com 
> 
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
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KR> KR's for Sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Ron,
 If I was 27, the answer would be not yes but hell yes but I am 77 so I 
think my days of blasting around in anything are over.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Hoskins" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: KR> KR's for Sale


>
>
> Bob Stone wrote...
>
> Mark,
> I have a feeling that a good many builders decide after building and
> flying their KR for a time that they really need a four place so they sell
> out and end up in a four place spam can.  I am one of those who did just
> that.
>
> Bob Stone
>
> Hey Bob...
> Dont you think you should build a KR1 so you can get out and blast around 
> like a fighter pilot for fun???
>
>
> Ron Hoskins
> Chattaroy, Wa.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
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KR> My Unveiling

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Looks great however if you do any flying at night that dark canopy may 
become a problem.  Of course you could build another canopy with clear 
plexiglass and use it when you are planning a night flight.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "William Wynne" ; "KR Net" ; 
"Corvaircraft" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: KR> My Unveiling


> Ok guys and Gals, I have just updated my "Photo of the Week" page with the 
> very lastest and most likely final version of my fuselage. Take a look and 
> tell me what you think. Here is the link: 
> http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
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KR> slipping

[Robert L. Stone]

- Original Message - 
From: "George" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> slipping


> There is an interesting movie at AOPA website dealing with takeoffs and
> landings. 
> http://flighttraining.aopa.org/student_pilot/presolo/interactive/
> Look for 'Ups and Downs of Takeoffs and Landings'
> crosswind landings are at about 30min mark .  (Yes, it is over an hour
> movie clip)
>
> GeorgeM
> Long Island, NY
>
> bo...@hatconversions.com wrote:
>
>>John,
>> I disagree...Approaches in a crosswind should be with a wing low
>>and the airplane lined up with the centerline. That is why so many
>>people have trouble flying a tailwheel. They are used to crabing it
>>in, crashing it sideways on the runway, and letting the tricycle gear
>>straighten them up.  Bobby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Bill
>>>
>>>Actually airspeed must be increased in a sideslip because stall speed is
>>>raised also. This is because the wing becomes less efficient and the lift
>>>drag ratio is reduced. This means a greater angle of attack (nearer to 
>>>the
>>>stall) at a given airspeed to maintain lift or alternatively you must
>>>increase air speed. If side slipping an approach you should always be
>>>applying some forward stick at the same time hence the steeper descent
>>>angle. Flaps were invented to overcome this as you say, to give a steeper
>>>approach angle and reduced airspeed. Side slip without forward stick has
>>>killed many a Tiger Moth pilot since it can put you into an opposite spin
>>>with no altitude in which to recover. Aerobatic pilots actually use this
>>>to
>>>advantage ti initiate spins at safe altitudes.
>>>
>>>Also an approach in a cross wind is a crabbed approach not necessarily a
>>>side slip. The aircaft should still be balanced relative to the wind 
>>>(ball
>>>central) but its approach relative to the ground is skewed. In a side 
>>>slip
>>>the ball is one way or the other depending on your rudder input and this
>>>can
>>>be achieved without cross wind if desired.
>>>
>>>Cheers John.
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: 
>>>To: "KRnet" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:48 PM
>>>Subject: Re: KR> slipping
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
By slipping one must qualify the type.  By definition you will be cross
controlled in a forward slip, no way around that one.  A side slip
however
would be used during a crosswind landing (kind of hard not to if you
actually want to land on the runway).  As far as slips being "dangerous"
I
think that it was a required skill for all of us in order to get the
private.  Remember those no flap landings.  Guess what, a forward slip
isn't
dangerous and it provides the same advantage as flaps, steeper approach
angle without the increased airspeed.  Flaps weren't always around
folks.
They were added to planes like that little wheel up front on your trike
gear
plane to make landings easier.  That is also why actually having
tailwheel
time is essential.  Trust me if you go from the 172 world straight into
your
tailwheel KR you will quickly learn what the term "ground loop" means
and
it
ain't an aerobatic maneuver.

Bill Zink
- Original Message -
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:21 AM
Subject: KR> slipping




>Slipping is natural when conditions require slipping.
>However, there sometimes is a tendancy to cross control
>which can be dangerous.
>   Not many pilots understand the tendancy to cross
>control or even what it means.
>   Is there a CFI out there who would be generous enough
>to elaborate on this?
>JR
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>>>
>>
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KR> Re: KR2 / Languages & VW 1600

[Robert L. Stone]

Joachim,
 A turbo charger is the answer and it would work.  Ken Rand had a cabin 
up at Big Bear Lake in California not too far from mine and he had a little 
trouble getting off in his KR-1 in the early days.  He solved the problem by 
using the exahust gas to power a RayJay turbo charger and solved his 
problem.  When I asked him how it worked, he simply said, "Now my engine 
thinks it's at sea level.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@ot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Joachim Saupe" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Re: KR2 / Languages & VW 1600


> Frank,
> you are right! I just wanted to impress on Eduardo that a 1600cc 
> Volkswagen
> engine is definitely NOT suited for his elevation.
> When I put pen to paper, his elevation is actually 9500 feet. Looking at
> the map, within 50-100 miles he has peaks of 2+ feet. I don't know if
> even a turbo'ed 2180 would do.
> Joachim
> Ft. Worth, Texas
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Frank Ross 
>> To: KRnet 
>> Date: 2/6/2006 3:13:16 AM
>> Subject: RE: KR> Re: KR2  /  Languages & VW 1600
>>
>> Joachim,
>>   It might be difficult for someone in South America to locate a 1960s
> Chevrolet Corvair engine.
>>   Maybe a turbo VW or at least a 2180?
>>   Or maybe the smaller aircraft engines, like the O-200 or C-85?
>>   Eduardo,
>>   Please tell us how many beers you drink before you write so we'll know
> how many to drink when we read your message.
>>   Thanks
>>   Frank Ross
>>   in East Anglia, England, UK
>
>
>
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KR> KR/ Corvair forsale

[Robert L. Stone]

John,
 Clicking on the URL in your message does nothing.  If you get any 
messages telling you that the web site will not come on screen, write back 
and tell them to copy  the address (URL) then paste it into the address 
block of their home page.  Mine is Google.  This is the only way I could get 
your web site to come on screen.
 Your work so far looks very good and the engine looks great.  I was 
wondering, do you have a trailor to haul everything on.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "John Esch" 
To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: KR> KR/ Corvair forsale


> Netters
> Price lowered again on my KR-2S / Corvair project. It can be seen at: 
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~jfesch/
>
> John
> Independence, Oregon
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KR> KR/ Corvair forsale

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 The problem must be in my system somewhere!

Bob Stone

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR/ Corvair forsale


> Bob it works fine for me.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:59 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR/ Corvair forsale
>
>
>> John,
>>  Clicking on the URL in your message does nothing.  If you get any
>> messages telling you that the web site will not come on screen, write 
>> back
>> and tell them to copy  the address (URL) then paste it into the address
>> block of their home page.  Mine is Google.  This is the only way I could
> get
>> your web site to come on screen.
>>  Your work so far looks very good and the engine looks great.  I was
>> wondering, do you have a trailor to haul everything on.
>>
>> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John Esch" <jfe...@earthlink.net>
>> To: <kr...@mylist.net>; <corvaircr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:24 PM
>> Subject: KR> KR/ Corvair forsale
>>
>>
>> > Netters
>> > Price lowered again on my KR-2S / Corvair project. It can be seen at:
>> > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~jfesch/
>> >
>> > John
>> > Independence, Oregon
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KR> a single passenger KR2S?

[Robert L. Stone]

Tony,
 A great idea, if you are going to fly solo most of the time a KR2S with 
a teardrop canopy would be a great airplane.  You would have 360 degree 
visibility and plenty of speed providing you use an 0200 Continental engine 
or one of equal power.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "michaela" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:10 AM
Subject: KR> a single passenger KR2S?


> Has anyone ever built or contemplated building a single seat KR2S. Ie, 
> narrowing the fuselage a bit, but maintaining the length, span, etc?  Just 
> thinking it might be sort of a luxury single seater, with a nice combo of 
> speed/comfort and even some capacity for a little bit of payload (luggage 
> etc.).  I love having room for a second passenger, but the reality is that 
> most of my hours are pure solo... and I wouldn't mind getting there a bit 
> quicker than I do in my '46 Aeronca 11AC...  ;-)... Your 
> thoughts/ideas/opinions?
>
> Tony
>
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KR> KR Parts

[Robert L. Stone]

Bobby,
 I am also not very computer knowledgeable but I do know that there are 
people who will help you with the technical end of establishing a web site 
to advertise what you have to sell and there is a market amoung the 
builders.  As someone has previously stated, a good many suppliers are very 
slow responding to requests for parts even when money is sent in advance so 
If you were well know as a result of a web site and gave prompt service and 
fair prices you might just corner the market and make a lot of money.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Parts


> >
>
>
> I'm better at aluminum work than screwing with computers.
>
>
> Bobby,
>>  You should establish a web site showing everything that you have to
>> sell that is KR related and include the prices.
>>
>> Bob Stone
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:19 AM
>> Subject: KR> KR Parts
>>
>>
>>> Guys,
>>> I have two started KR's in the hanger that we are going faster than
>>> the speed of smell on. I have an aluminum fab shop here in the 150 x
>>> 50 hanger we just built on a private strip south of Pueblo. While I
>>> am gearing up to build the aluminum parts for these things, it's easy
>>> to build extras. Built an aluminum sling type seat, instrument panel,
>>> the 4130 just arrived yesterday for the engine mounts,etc. If you
>>> guys without lots of tools need any thing, yell...I can't
>>> build them for free, but I can build them really reasonable if I am
>>> already tooled up. If there are any specific items you need I'll try
>>> to attach a picture.  Thanks,  Bobby
>>>
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>>
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KR> buying plans

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I have over the past months seen a good many complaints about Rand 
Robinson.  I would not do anything as far as building an aircraft with 
modifications from a set of RR plans until I checked with an attorney but it 
seemsto me since there is no patent on the Rand method of building that I 
know of, the method can be used by anyone that wants to use it.  Even if a 
patent was applied for and granted when the method was first thought of by 
Ken Rand, The 17 years a patent is good for is now long past.
 In view of the above it is my opinion that an aircraft may be built 
using KR plans as a guide and if so much as one deviation from the plans is 
made, it is not a KR but an original design.
 I see nothing wrong or illegal about this and if anyone builds from a 
set of plans purchased from someone who bought them from RR and built an 
aircraft from them, Mrs Rand brought this on herself by treating customers 
and potential customers like she could care less weather they buy plans or 
parts from her.


- Original Message - 
From: "michaela" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: KR> buying plans


> Over the past three years I have purchased 8-9 sets of experimental 
> aircraft plans, most from the original source, but a couple online from 
> third parties after confirming they had not been previously used to build 
> a plane. When purchasing from the original designer, or the designer's 
> heirs, I'm often, no usually, very disappointed in the level of service. 
> More than once, I have had to call/email over and over, even threaten 
> legal action, just to receive the plans I have pre-paid for. In one case, 
> I simply never received them, but my check was cashed...  Ironically, the 
> plans I have purchased or traded for through e-groups or Barnstormers have 
> arrived promptly, in excellent condition, as promised. I recently traded 
> one of my sets for another design and both of us simply gave each others 
> word that we would put them in the mail, provided each other with the 
> confirmation delivery number, and within a week, we both were proud owners 
> of designs we were now interested in.
>
> There are a lot of good people in the world, but not everyone has what it 
> takes to run a business. If plans distributors want to make $$ off their 
> intellectual property, but don't want to, or perhaps are unable to, take 
> on the responsibility of providing quality service I wish they would admit 
> so to themselves and find a distributor who is willing to do so. I'm sure 
> there are companies out there who would be happy to take on the 
> responsibility of licensing KR plans, and would probably provide Mrs. Rand 
> reasonable compensation for doing so. Its not exactlly a new business 
> model...
>
> Tony
>
> ps this opinion may be worth twice the value of my previous post... and 
> three times what you paid for it...
>
>
>
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KR> buying KR plans

[Robert L. Stone]

Frank,
 I heard that Mark Langford by himself or with some other people tried 
to purchase the business from Mrs Rand and the price was so high that it was 
obvious, she does not want to sell.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ross" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: RE: KR> buying KR plans


> When Jeanette gets tired of running this business, it
> will probably be bought for a small fee by one of the
> competitors who will promptly bury it as deep as they
> can.
> Consider the Q-2 and Dragonfly.
> Frank
>
> --- Ron Hoskins  wrote:
>
>> To get your set of plans, send the money to RR per
>> web site instructions and you will receive them
>> sooner or later. I agree that we owe Ken for this
>> great design but also relize that it is the KR's
>> that keep this company going and not by the way
>> Jenette is runing it. It may be a small business,
>> but it should be treated as one. I was able to get
>> Jenette on the phone before ordering and she asured
>> me that the plans would be shipped as soon as she
>> got me personal check. The check cleared my bank 6
>> days later and the plans arrived 4weeks later. I am
>> starting to build this great little plane, but with
>> the service I had with the plans, I will not be
>> buying anything furture from Jenette. I also talked
>> with another person that had been waiting for a
>> month for his plans and said he was waiting for them
>> to arrive so he could quit doing buisness with her.
>>  Hope this doesent tick-off to many people, but this
>> is no way to run a buisiness. She is lucky that Ken
>> designed such a great little airplane.   Thanks
>> Ken...
>
>
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KR> KR Parts

[Robert L. Stone]

Bobby,
 You should establish a web site showing everything that you have to 
sell that is KR related and include the prices.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:19 AM
Subject: KR> KR Parts


> Guys,
> I have two started KR's in the hanger that we are going faster than
> the speed of smell on. I have an aluminum fab shop here in the 150 x
> 50 hanger we just built on a private strip south of Pueblo. While I
> am gearing up to build the aluminum parts for these things, it's easy
> to build extras. Built an aluminum sling type seat, instrument panel,
> the 4130 just arrived yesterday for the engine mounts,etc. If you
> guys without lots of tools need any thing, yell...I can't
> build them for free, but I can build them really reasonable if I am
> already tooled up. If there are any specific items you need I'll try
> to attach a picture.  Thanks,  Bobby
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KR> Updated Web Page

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Those little dollies you have under each wheel look like just the thing 
to use if you want to be able to move the aircraft around the shop.  What 
are they called and where did you get them.  I am sure there are other 
Netters interested so be sure to reply via the KRNet.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Texas
rsto...@hot.rr.com


 Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: KR> Updated Web Page


>I have added four new photos to the bottom of my main web page. these show 
>what my plane looks like today. Will it ever fly again? I hope so  Here 
>is the link: www.flykr2s.com
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
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KR> Ignition Switch

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Have you checked to see if the L & R terminals have a separate ground, 
or does the entire switch ground through the mount for all circuits.  Also 
check to see if the two coils require grounding.  Just some of my thoughts.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "VIRGIL N SALISBURY" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Ignition Switch


>Battery only needed in start. That switch GROUNDS in the L R
> BOTH, Virg
>
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:14:33 -0600 "Mark Jones" 
> writes:
>> I have recently acquired a brand new Bendix OFF-R-L-BOTH-START
>> ignition switch part number 10-357210-1. I want to use this switch
>> to operate my two coils independently as R or L and have the ability
>> to run BOTH just as you would a mag set up. I was just bench testing
>> the switch with it hooked to a battery. Using a test light, the
>> starter position worked but I could not get the R-L-BOTH positions
>> to work. Is there some magic to a Bendix switch that I am
>> overlooking? Tony Bingelis' book "Firewall Forward" shows the wiring
>> diagram but that is basically all it says about it. Any help would
>> be appreciated as I would like to get rid of the cheap switch I am
>> currently using and use this Bendix switch. Thanks
>>
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Wales, WI  USA
>> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>> Visit my NEW
>> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>>
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>
>
> Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
> www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
> Miami ,Fl
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KR> VW and Corvair

[Robert L. Stone]

 The Jabiru 3300 is now $14,900 from Jabiru USA in Wisconsin.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: KR> VW and Corvair


>I think you can put the Jab 3300 on your KR for about the same weight, less
> space, both, in your plane and pocket book.  Isn't it around $16000 that
> will get you there?  More than most of us have in the entire plane 
> including
> engine and instruments.
>
> Any engine that get's and keeps me in the air, is a good engine.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> is OVER.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Larry Flesner
> Date: 12/29/05 20:13:12
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> VW and Corvair
>
>>
>>"I think most VW guys wish
>>they had a Corvair, because it doesn't weigh that much more, but has a lot
>>more power than a VW."
> 
>
>
> I'm convinced that the size / type of our engines is proportional to the
> size of our bank account.  Any of us offered more power for the same
> money and weight  would jump on it in an instant.  We try to get the most
> bang for our buck and the VW offers that.  How many of us would say
> "no thanks" if offered a swap for a 120hp Jabaru.  So much for brand
> loyalty.  It appears that the Corvair is a good choice for more power for
> what appears a modest , if any, increase in cost.  Hell, I wish I had
> an 0-300 !!  As it stands, I got lucky and have less in my 0-200 than
> most have in a small bore VW.
>
> I suspect that Mark just uttered something we all think if we'll admit it.
> More power ='s more speed,
> and even more power ='s even more speed !!
>
> I would advise not to take Mark's comment personal or consider it
> to be a put-down.  I know he didn't mean it that way.   Wasn't the VW
> Mark's first choice for an engine?
>
> And Phil, as to the geared RG2000,  I suspect there are many builders
> on the net that would snatch that up in an instant also.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> tower trip

[Robert L. Stone]

Jim,
 I'm thinking the EAA people who started the Young Eagles might have got 
the idea for this wonderful program from you.  Watching a young boy or girl 
catch their first fish is fun, watching the same two kids who have never 
been up in an airplane before when you lift off is even more fun.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.copm


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Morehead" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: KR> tower trip


Netters,
In the late O80¹s when I was teaching, I would take three students at a
time for a ride in a C 172, each one had a chance to fly right seat then we
would do a tower tour.  Then I would go back to the school and pick up three
more students.  They liked it and I loved it.  The school board shut me
down, something about liability insurance, even though I had written
permission from their parents.
Anytime you get a chance to visit a tower you should do it.

Happy New Year to all,
Jim Morehead
Cameron Park, CA


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Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world

[Robert L. Stone]

Jeff,
 Those hair raising tales are almost enough to make a guy quite flying, 
but not quite.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


WOW !!

Now I do not feel so bad for doing really dumb things too.

While doing some engine maintenance one day, I forgot to fully tighten one
of the oil lines going to the remote oil filter.

As my luck would have it, there was a big party going on at the hanger
across from me. Probably about a hundred people. Of course this is part of
the reason that I will blame  for the dumb blunder as people where
constantly coming over to look at the weird little airplane I was working
on. This distraction my have been to blame for me not double checking my
work. OK, that's my story and I am sticking to it.

Anyway, I pulled the airplane outside, started her up and soon realized that
a lot of oil was being dumped and sprayed all over the place. Even all the
way back onto my car.

Nobody in the crowd next door seemed to notice. However, I spent the next
couple of hours cleaning up my mess. It actually only dumped a quart but
with a propeller spaying it, it made a big mess.

But, this is not the most embarrassing moment I have had with an airplane.
That would be the day I hand propped my Varieze and the carb return spring
sprung off and the engine went to full throttle. I ended up chasing the
plane and getting dragged for about 75 yards. I felt I had no choice as the
engine went to full throttle just as I was walking up to the cockpit. It was
either drop and get hit by the propeller. Varieze's are rear engine. There
was also the thought of it hitting something else or even worse taking off
without me.

I probably should not have told this story on the internet. OK I did it so
the rest of you guys don't feel so stupid when you do something dumb. Again,
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net



- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


> I know it's not Friday, but all this oil leak talk made me feel like I
> should share that painful memory with you, guys!
>
> A few years ago, in South Africa, I was busy upgrading the instrument
> panel of my taildragger KR2. Obviously, the aircraft was grounded for a
> while, so it was a good time to do some engine maintenance too. Then, one
> day, I finished the new instrument panel, and felt like fitting it
> quickly, so that I could resume the fun part: FLYING! . So, after work, I
> drove directly to the hangar,  installed the new instrument panel,
> reconnected all the wires and lines, and prepared the freshly serviced
> engine for a  run-up.
>
> At about 8 PM, I asked Andrew, the Black guy who kept the hangar to open
> the doors. I pushed the aircraft outside, and got ready for the engine
> run-up. Obviously, I did not bother to put the  engine cowling back.
> Wheels chocked, tail tied town; I swinged the prop, and sat happily in the
> cockpit... until Andrew signalled that something was wrong. I shut the
> engine, and asked "What's wrong?". Andrew answered: "Eeesssh! Baas, the
> oil, she is too much!". And indeed, there was a very large oil pool under
> the  engine, exactly as  he said!
>
> So, I learnt my first lesson of the night: do not, ever, forget the seals
> when you put the tappet covers back, otherwise you are going for a serious
> oil mess!
>
> A few minutes later, tappet covers seals duly in place, all evidence of
> the blunder wiped clean, I made a second start, sat in the cockpit, and
> happily revved the engine, when suddenly, I got the disturbing feelng that
> my pants were wet. A glance down confirmed the impression: my pants were
> soaked with engine oil!
>
> That's how Iearnt my second lesson of the night: when installing the
> instrument panel, never, ever, forget to reconnect the oil line of the oil
> pressure gauge, otherwise you are going for a VERY serious oil mess!
>
> Oh, well! Now, my heart was filled with anger, so I smartly channelled
> that anger towards the one-and-only culprit: the MECHANICAL oil gauge!
> What a stupid idea, anyway, to run a high pressure, high temperature oil
> line inside a cockpit! What would happen if the line burst in flight, eh?
> Who wants to get an engine failure and a pair of burnt legs to boot?
>
> Incidentally, a few days ago,I had bought an electrical oil pressure
> gauge, which I intended to mount some day. Well, let's say that's the day.
> I am not going to ever start that engine again with that sillly mechanical
> oil gauge!
>
> So, I rushed home, took the electrical  

KR> Ken Rand & Christmas time

[Robert L. Stone]

My dear KR Netters.
 I was a personal friend of the late Ken Rand and he was one of the best 
men I have ever known.  Since all of you out there are interested in his design 
I want to tell you, all of you that I wish you could have met and got to know 
him because he was a person you would never forget.
His lose was a real blow to the experimental aviation community and all who 
knew him experienced a real lose including me.  I know the hardest time for his 
wife and daughters is this time of year when they remember the Christmas 
seasons they enjoyed together.  He produced a great design that will be around 
for many years to come and hopefully he will go down in history as one of the 
great contributors to aviation.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU WORLD WIDE WHO ARE KEEPING HIS MEMORY ALIVE BY 
BUILDING ONE OF HIS MAGNIFICENT DESIGNS.

BOB STONE, HARKER HEIGHTS, TX

KR> Aviation products for sale

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 The following items are offered for sale.   
   Original 
Will sell for
   Price
1 Bose headset 8 months old$995.00  $795.00
2 Lightspeed 20XLc headsets 16 months old870.00670.00
   (one used only three times)  $435.00 each
  Price for each headset is $335.00  
1 Garmin 296 GPS  8 months old Original price 1,695.00 1,200.00
was $1,695.00, now $1,495.00  Totals: 3,560.00 2,665.00

 I will sell in a lump sum deal to anyone all of the above for $2,600.00 or 
individual items as priced in the "Will sell for" column.  The above listed 
items are like new because of the limited use.  All prices are firm.
My bank, First National Bank of Texas has an escrow service which I will pay 
for.  Interested buyers please contact me off net for instructions as to how to 
use the excrow service.

Bob Stone

KR> Disapearing pictures

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I and a friend are in the market for a KR2S.  I received a letter from 
an owner of one with a picture and when I forwarded the letter to my friend, 
the picture was only a large square, with a small squarein the upper left 
corner containing a small red x.  I then discovered that all the the e-mails 
I send out with a picture (not an attachment) the same thing happens.  I 
know there are some very computer knowledgeable people out there and I am 
hoping one of you can tell be what to do about this.  What settings to 
change, etc?

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com 

KR> Disappearing pictures

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I tried that and it did not work.  All I got was a box that had four 
selections in it and the only one that was dark indicating that it was the 
only one that was usable was the one SELECT ALL.  When I punched on that one 
every thing on the screen was highlighted, there was no selection OPEN 
PICTURE.

Bob Stone
-

 Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Disappearing pictures


> Robert,
> If your friend puts his mouse pointer on the small red x and right clicks, 
> it will open a box which has a command "open picture" in it. If he clicks 
> on that command the photo will open if it is there.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales....@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> Robert L. Stone
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:43 PM
> To: KR Builders Pilots
> Subject: KR> Disapearing pictures
>
>
> Netters,
> I and a friend are in the market for a KR2S.  I received a letter from
> an owner of one with a picture and when I forwarded the letter to my 
> friend,
> the picture was only a large square, with a small squarein the upper left
> corner containing a small red x.  I then discovered that all the the 
> e-mails
> I send out with a picture (not an attachment) the same thing happens.  I
> know there are some very computer knowledgeable people out there and I am
> hoping one of you can tell be what to do about this.  What settings to
> change, etc?
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
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KR> Disappearing pictures

[Robert L. Stone]

Yes, I am using Outlook Express.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Disappearing pictures


> Do you have Outlook Express or ???
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Disappearing pictures
>
>
>> Mark,
>>  I tried that and it did not work.  All I got was a box that had four
>> selections in it and the only one that was dark indicating that it was 
>> the
>> only one that was usable was the one SELECT ALL.  When I punched on that
> one
>> every thing on the screen was highlighted, there was no selection OPEN
>> PICTURE.
>>
>> Bob Stone
>> -
>>
>>  Original Message - 
>> From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: KR> Disappearing pictures
>>
>>
>> > Robert,
>> > If your friend puts his mouse pointer on the small red x and right
> clicks,
>> > it will open a box which has a command "open picture" in it. If he
> clicks
>> > on that command the photo will open if it is there.
>> >
>> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> > Wales, WI
>> > Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com
>> > Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales@mylist.net
>> > [mailto:krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
>> > Robert L. Stone
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:43 PM
>> > To: KR Builders Pilots
>> > Subject: KR> Disapearing pictures
>> >
>> >
>> > Netters,
>> > I and a friend are in the market for a KR2S.  I received a letter
> from
>> > an owner of one with a picture and when I forwarded the letter to my
>> > friend,
>> > the picture was only a large square, with a small squarein the upper
> left
>> > corner containing a small red x.  I then discovered that all the the
>> > e-mails
>> > I send out with a picture (not an attachment) the same thing happens. 
>> > I
>> > know there are some very computer knowledgeable people out there and I
> am
>> > hoping one of you can tell be what to do about this.  What settings to
>> > change, etc?
>> >
>> > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>> > rsto...@hot.rr.com
>> >
>> >
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KR> High Flight

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I am sure all of you guys have heard the famous poem "HIGH FLIGHT" 
written by a world war II fighter pilot by the name of John Gillespie Magee, 
Jr.  I would like to know some more history about the man who wrote this 
magnificent poem.  If any of you out there can come up with some more facts 
about him, I would appriciate it.  I have heard that at sometime during the 
war, he was shot down and killed in action but that's all I know about him.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com 

KR> High Flight

[Robert L. Stone]

  To all you guys who responded to my request for more information on the 
author of HIGH FLIGHT,  Thanks much  

   I have never been able to read the last line in that poem without
   getting a lump in my throat


  MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL NETTERS
AND ALSO A HAPPY & PROSPERS NEW YEAR

KR> Engine heat

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I hope one of you is knowledgeable enough to provide me with 
information I need to use my EGT gauge.  I need facts rather than opinions. 
I am running a 110 horse Lycoming
engine and just had an EGT gauge installed.  The gauge is set to alarm at 
1500 degrees and this seems high to me.  Can anyone tell me when climing to 
altitude and thining the mixture what would be the best temperature for 
maximum fuel economy and engine health.  I would also like to know what the 
never exceed temperature would be.

Bob Stone 

KR> Engine heat

[Robert L. Stone]

Brian,
 Thanks much for taking the time to provide me with the answer that you 
have.  I am using a system that conects to one sensor to the cylinder that 
is supposed to be the one that runs the hotest of the four.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Engine heat


>I have seen published EGT never to exceed temps before, but only on factory
> planes that have the probe in the same place.  What your maximum is will
> depend on where the probe is and a little bit on how the air flow is over
> the exhaust.
>
> When you are leaning the engine you are looking for what the peak EGT is 
> as
> you pull the mixture back.  The actual number is not really that 
> important.
>
> When you are at your cruise power setting you want to slowly pull the
> mixture back a little at a time.  Let the EGT settle for 5 to 10 seconds
> each time you pull back a little.  You will eventually reach a point where
> you get a peak temperature and pulling back the mixture any more will 
> cause
> the temp to decrease.  Once you have found the peak you want to push the
> mixture in where it is 25 - 50 degrees rich of peak for a good economy
> cruise.  Your best power setting will be about 100 degrees rich of peak.
> You will find that your peak temp wil vary some depending on your power
> setting, altitude, and outside air temp, but you can still find the peak 
> at
> any setting.
>
> I have found that with exhaust wrap that it is much easier to find the 
> peak
> on my Midget Mustang than it was without it.
>
> You will get some differences of opinion on weather you should run rich of
> peak, lean of peak, or at peak.  If you have a good matched set of fuel
> injectors like the Gami ones you can safely run best a little lean of 
> peak.
> When you are using a carburated engine or regular injectors that are not
> matched and you only have one EGT you need to err on the rich side because
> you might have one or more other cylinders that are leaner than the one 
> you
> have the EGT on and you can damage them.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Robert L. Stone
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: KR Builders Pilots
> Subject: KR> Engine heat
>
>
> Netters,
> I hope one of you is knowledgeable enough to provide me with
> information I need to use my EGT gauge.  I need facts rather than 
> opinions.
> I am running a 110 horse Lycoming
> engine and just had an EGT gauge installed.  The gauge is set to alarm at
> 1500 degrees and this seems high to me.  Can anyone tell me when climing 
> to
> altitude and thining the mixture what would be the best temperature for
> maximum fuel economy and engine health.  I would also like to know what 
> the
> never exceed temperature would be.
>
> Bob Stone
>
>
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KR> The Fix

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I had a pre-buy inspection done on my Cessna 152 and  during the 
compression check the mechanic found one cylinder was showing only 47 
pounds.  Another mechanic did something I have never heard of before.  He 
said that sometimes there will be a carbon buildup on the seal of the 
exahust valve and cause it to not close all the way and seal on the 
compression stroke as it is supposed to do.  He took a large rubber mallet 
and smacked the roker arms a few times after removing the cover of course 
and now that cylinder is showing 74 pounds.  Just a few strokes with a 
rubber mallet was all it took to jar the carbon off of the seal.  I could 
see an expensive repair bill for grinding valves, replacing rings or 
possibly the entire cylinder so I thought you guys aught to know about this 
fix.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com 

KR> (no subject)

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 Thanks guys, I had no idea this procedure was well known.  However next 
time I have occasion to bang on the tappets I will also use some mystery 
oil.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rstone4@hot,rr,com 

Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Civil unrest in Franc e?=

[Robert L. Stone]

Dear James,
 You are 100 percent correct in saying the KRNet should be confined to 
questions and answers concerning the building and flying of KR aircraft.  I 
agree with you, the exception being when a tragedy such as the death of one 
of our group occurs.  The primary reason the KRNet was established was for 
the exchange of ideas and advice on how to do something during the building 
process making it a very valuable resource for builders.  The plans leave a 
lot of detail up to the builder and if he or she cannot figure out how to do 
it, there are 600 plus members who will have the answer.  Anyway welcome to 
the net.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx, USA
rsto...@hot.rr.com







- Original Message - 
From: "JAMES DUFF" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Civil unrest in Franc e?=


I'm fairly new to this group. Infact, this is my first post using the group 
email.

With regards to this and also other posts I've read I'd like to offer a 
newcomer's opinion, and I expect it to be treated as such too.

If this group used an online forum eg:
www.cougarforum.co.uk
of which I'm also a member I'd be all for such discussions. Such sites cost 
money however and KRNet uses this email group.

Some of us are primarily interested in the aircraft and issues related to 
building and operating it (issues such as the tragic death of Steve Jones 
excepted) but not interested in sifting through 400 emails in our inboxes 
trying to identify something relevant and something that isn't.

So in my personal opinion, and as a new builder who doesn't get time to 
access this email account often, I would prefer to keep posts on topic 
rather than covering issues I can read about in the news papers etc. Another 
topic which filled a page in my inbox was one on hypothetically building a 
KR using steel tube. Whilst this may be of interest to some, it definately 
isn't of interest to all members.

I feel it must be remembered that with this being an email group, everyone 
receives every post whether they care or not.

I must reiterate that if this were an online forum we could post off-topic 
issues all day and those who didn't care to read them could chose to ignore 
them. As it stands however, we are all hit with many emails which sometimes 
are not relevant and will enevitably be unwelcome to some members.

With respect,

Jamie Duff
Aberdeen,
Scotland

billsta...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Serge any thing you have to say about your situation is sufficiently unique 
and interesting to justify sending to all of us . Thank
you very much. Bill Starrs (KR1 completed) Clarkdale AZ
- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL"
To: ; "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:04 AM
Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Civil unrest in France


Hi, Isaac, and welcome.

300 jumps? Hmm... puts you well ahead of me, with my 30-odd static line
ones. Maybe I should try and brag about the rest of the training I got in
Saint-Cyr (that's the French equivalent of West Point)? Nah! Any position
has it's counter, and here is not the place! Don't you agree? ;-)

Don't worry. Nobody intends to turn the KR List into a political forum.
But whenever one list member happens to be in a place that makes the news
(like New Orleans recently), well, news and enlightened opinions tend to
be welcome. Heated debates would be promptly censored by our zealous
moderator anyway, so they happen off list.

Around the world, the news media have grossly exagerated the extent of
this rioting, and misinterpreted the causes, too. So, I just tried to
explain what really happens here, from an insider's point of view.

Funny, for as long as I can emember, you're the first builder to introduce
himself by ethnicity (Incidentally, I just realized made the mistake of
revealing my 25% of Moroccan blood myself in that post, which will
probably attract a lot of prejudice, since brown is not exactly a color in
fashion!)

OK, case closed my side. Back to business. What are you building? How far
are you?

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France





isaac milton

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
2005-11-15 04:37
Veuillez répondre à rousedabout; Veuillez répondre à KRnet
Remis le : 2005-11-15 04:37


Pour : KRnet
cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : Re: KR> Civil unrest in France



Hi guys,

I'm building in Boise Idaho, am African American by
ethniticy, and was Army Special Forces for nearly 10
years... wounded in Panama in 89, relatively new
pilot, but have taken off 300 more times than I've
landed, so I feel comfortable with you guys. I enjoy
the threads, it's helped me a lot, and I spend most of
my evenings soaking it up. I'd appreciate,
respectfully, if you leave the political opinions
elsewhere, as any position has it's counter, and here
is not the place. Don't you agree?

Isaac Milton
KR-2 ROUSEDABOUT
Boise Idaho, USA


--- Serge VIDAL wrote:

> Hi, Phil, and all.
>

KR> GPS

[Robert L. Stone]

Bryan,
 Get a Garmin 296, the price has gone down to $1,495.  It does not have 
weather but you can call ground service stations all over the country and 
check on the weather ahead.  I have a 296 and love it.  $2,500 for a little 
hand held is just too much money.  Some other companies will sell you a 
large screen mounted in the instermenet panel for that.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: KR> GPS


>I have been using a Garmin Etrex Legend for a while.  It works great and is
> a whole lot cheaper than aviation units.  There was the time though when I
> was flying back from somewhere and the weather started looking pretty bad.
> I checked the AWOS at a nearby airport and got the dreaded "Lightning in 
> all
> sectors" in the comments section just as I saw a bolt that was probably 30
> miles away but looked like it was right by wingtip.  The thunderstorms in
> Florida pop up out of nowhere pretty quick sometimes.  As I was franticly
> typing in the name of the closest town to the airport since the airports 
> are
> not in the database on the unit and hoping I could fly towards the town 
> and
> see the airport I was wishing that I had sprung the extra couple hundred
> bucks for a GPS with an aviation database.  That is not the first time I 
> had
> wished that either.  I will have a 396 before next summer's thunderstorm
> season with XM weather.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Doug Rupert
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:44 PM
> To: 'KRnet'
> Subject: RE: KR> GPS
>
>
> Frank I bought an old Lowrance Worldmap 1000 from a boat for 80 dollars.
> Lowrance doesn't make them anymore since they figured out that if they
> change the name to Airmap 1000 they can sell it for a bundle more than a
> boat owner will shell out. Way cool moving map and huge screen so a
> magnifying glass isn't needed to see what's on the screen. Not color but 
> the
> money saved can be better used on radios the way I figure. A quick check 
> of
> the local boatyards or e-bay under marine section yields a load of 
> treasures
> that are easily adapted to aircraft usage. Actually been looking at the 
> GPS
> steering servo from the boat to be used as a simple autopilot. If that 
> servo
> is strong enough to steer a 40 foot yacht I'm sure it won't have a problem
> pointing a KR in the right direction.
> Doug Rupert
>
>
> Speaking of GPS, I saw a GPS unit that plugs into your
> computer for about $80 (US) the other day. Looks good
> for those who are using lap-tops in-flight.
> Frank
>
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KR> KR2 wing removal

[Robert L. Stone]

Hello Pete.
 Removing the wings from any KR aircraft is not an easy job and unless 
you have a saw horse or something equal to put under the wing tip, it's a 
two man Job.  I do not know what the standard is in England for locknuts but 
here they are not to be removed and replaced more than three times.  I have 
never heard of the holes at the attach points becoming elongated.  Because 
of the time and effort it takes to remove or replace the wings on KR 
aircraft, most all of the people I know who own one or have owned one keep 
their aircraft in a hanger or any enclosure and leave the wings on except to 
take the aircraft home from time to time for maintenance.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx, USA
rsto...@hot.rr.com






- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Diffey" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal


Hi,

I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions
is being able to easily remove the wings.

My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to extract
from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from the
house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year.

My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do they
take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does this
lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on through
the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall.

It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys think
it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit.

Pete Diffey

St Albans just north of  London  - under the Luton Airport TMA for any
guys who know the area.

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KR> posts to web

[Robert L. Stone]

  Larry,
   Your posts must be making it because I got this one.

  Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
  rsto...@hot.rr.com



  - Original Message - 
  From: "Larry Flesner" 
  To: "KRnet" 
  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:37 PM
  Subject: KR> posts to web


  >
  >>
  >>Will someone please give me a reply to let me know if these posts are 
making
  >>it to the Net.?
  > ++
  >
  > You're making it out just fine.  Things have been a bit quiet on the
  > net for the last few day.  You should be getting you own reply back
  > I would think.  Are you on the digest?
  >
  > Larry Flesner
  >
  >
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KR> Loop De Loop

[Robert L. Stone]

  Brian,
   Just send it to the guys who have asked for it, I am one of them.

  Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
  rsto...@hot.rr.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: "Brian Olson" 
  To: "KRnet" 
  Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:35 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Loop De Loop


  > Folks:
  >
  >
  > I have a copy of it ... just need to figure out a way to get it to the
  > group.  Figure attaching it isn't such a good idea.  It shows two pilots
  > doing a steep climb, then abrupt pushover to 0g for a few seconds.  Poor
  > dog, but I laugh every time I watch it.
  >
  > Open to suggestions on how to distribute it ...
  >
  > Brian Olson
  > Alpharetta, GA
  >
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Steve Bray" 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 10:53 AM
  > Subject: KR> Loop De Loop
  >
  >
  >> Hello List
  >>
  >> Someone sent me a clip of a 150 doing a loop and a dog in the back 
floated
  >> up as they went over.
  >> It was great and I lost it. No idea who sent it and this is a shot in 
the
  >> dark. If anyone out there has it or sent it to me could you please send 
it
  >> again.
  >>
  >> Thanks,
  >> Steve Bray
  >> Jackson, Tennessee
  >>
  >>
  >>
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KR> Gathering photos

[Robert L. Stone]

 Joachim.
 The picture with this number  P1020702 in the Album is the KR-2 
belonging to  Brian Douglas, Killeen, Texas

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Joachim Saupe" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:35 PM
Subject: KR> Gathering photos


> Gang,
> I just made a yahoo photo album of the KR gathering 2005. Yeah, horray to 
> me (I'm new to this)! If any one can help me with identifying planes or 
> people, please send me an e-mail so I can put captions to all the photos.
> www.photos.yahoo.com/jsaupe
>
> Joachim
>
>
> Joachim Saupe
> jsaupe6...@earthlink.net
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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KR> For Steve

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Ron,
 You are right, this is the best aviation poem I have ever had the 
pleasure of reading and every time I read it, I get a lump in my throat.  It 
was written by John Gillespie Mcgee, Jr. who called it "HIGH FLIGHT"
 And just think about the fact that man dreamed of flying like the birds 
for many years before  two obscure bicycle mechanics from Dayton, Ohio made 
it happen.  God bless the both of them and all aviators in the world.  1/2 
of the wings of a 747 are longer than the first flight.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:49 AM
Subject: KR> For Steve


> I'm sure many have read this poem. It never gets old
> for me.
>
>
> Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
> And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
> Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of
> sun-split clouds,--and done a hundred things
> You have not dreamed of wheeled and soared and swung
> High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
> I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
> My eager craft through footless falls of air...
> Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
> I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
> Where never lark, nor eer eagle flew--
> And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
> The high, untrespassed sanctity of space,
> Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
>
>
> Millions of humans have longed to fly, it is we lucky
> few who have, and do.
>
> Godspeed Steve.
>
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KR> Eggenfellner engines

[Robert L. Stone]

Hay guys,
 I did not intend for my question about the Eggenfellner engine to start 
a war so be nice to each other.

Bob Stone



- Original Message - 
From: "Scott William" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Eggenfellner engines


> I'd sure like to see your research and sources. Subaru
> stopped producing aircraft after WW2 when it became
> the Fuji Sangyo Co.  Since then, it has concentrated
> on rally cars and associated races.
>
> (Fast forward)
>
> In 1987, Subaru introduced the XT6 model as a 1988
> model with the 145 hp 2.7 L flat-six ER27.
>
>
> The SVX engine/model debuted in 1991, targeting the
> luxury segment, hence the larger engine. The engine
> specs are as follows:
> Bore x stroke : 96.9mm x 75.0mm
> Engine displacement : 3,318cc
> Compression ratio : 10.0
> Max. output (hp/rpm) : 230/5,400
> Max. torque (ft/lb-m/rpm) : 228/4,400
>
> Those specs are not that of an aircraft engine. Those
> specs clearly show that it produces torque very high
> in the RPM range, too high for a prop. The only way
> this thing was ever an aircraft engine is if the
> stroke was longer, the camshaft different, and the
> intake ports much smaller.
>
> The SVX's EG33 engine was an indirect development of
> the 2.7 L ER27 flat-6 from the XT6, expanded to 3,318
> cc (96.9 mm bore by 75 mm stroke) and equipped with
> dual overhead camshafts and 4 valves per cylinder. An
> increase in compression ratio to 10.0:1 brought power
> to 230 hp (172 kW) at 5,400 rpm and torque to 228
> ft.lbf (309 Nm) at 4,400 rpm.
>
>
> If you have better information, I'd love to see
> itand your sources for it.
>
> Scott
>
>
> --- Dan Michaels  wrote:
>
>> I have researched this, and the 6 cylinder subaru is
>> an horozontally opposed
>> engine same as a Lycoming. It was designed by subaru
>> for an aircraft. The
>> aircraft did not take off financially so they
>> addapted the engine for a car.
>> Eggenfellner then converted it to an aircraft
>> engine. This is not the same
>> as the 4 cylinder Subaru engine that they used to
>> use.
>>
>> Dan
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Scott William" 
>> To: "KRnet" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: KR> Eggenfellner engines
>>
>>
>> > Dan:
>> > There's a reason Eggenfellner calls them
>> > "conversions".  They weren't designed to
>> flynow or
>> > ever.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > --- Dan Michaels 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The newest Subaru engine that they are using is
>> an
>> >> aircraft engine, it was
>> >> designed for this purpose the plane just did not
>> >> take off. They then put it
>> >> in a car.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >> - Original Message - 
>> >> From: "Scott William" 
>> >> To: ; "KRnet"
>> >> 
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:23 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: KR> Eggenfellner engines
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Can I simplify this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Auto engines are engineered to spend 80% of
>> thier
>> >> life
>> >> > at 20% throttle.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Airplane engines are engineered to spend 80% of
>> >> thier
>> >> > life at 85% throttle.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > See the difference?
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, some auto engines have inherent design
>> >> > charachteristics that bode them well in
>> airplanes.
>> >> The
>> >> > Corvair is one that is superb. As mentioned
>> below,
>> >> the
>> >> > 2100 VW with a good forged steel crank is a
>> good
>> >> > choice, as is the V6 GM motor.
>> >> >
>> >> > As for all the others.look how they perform
>> in
>> >> > boats. They don't last long because of the
>> large
>> >> power
>> >> > requirements on them. Hence, you'll never see a
>> >> two
>> >> > bolt main Chevy 350 in a boat. Or a Subaru, for
>> >> that
>> >> > matter.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Colin Rainey
>> 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Bob Lester at one time ran a Subaru engine
>> before
>> >> >> changing over to a Corvair. Problems with the
>> >> >> crankshafts due to the high rpms necessary to
>> >> >> produce enough power.  Read the Auto Mathbook
>> for
>> >> >> some numbers of projected life expectancy when
>> >> >> engines are subjected to higher and higher
>> rpms.
>> >> >> The Chevy 350 is 3.48 inches in stroke and
>> will
>> >> >> reach a piston speed that at 6500 rpms will
>> >> stress
>> >> >> the crank 4 times what it is at 5500 rpms per
>> the
>> >> >> author of the book.  Yet by de-stroking that
>> same
>> >> >> engine as in the Indy cars, it can be revved
>> to
>> >> >> 11,500 and reach the same piston speeds as
>> 6000
>> >> >> rpms, bringing the same stress to the crank.
>> You
>> >> >> must do the same things to your chosen engine,
>> OR
>> >> >> use an engine that develops more HP than you
>> >> need,
>> >> >> so that your 

KR> Covering material

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Ron,
 If you have the skills to make custom covers for KR Aircraft and want 
to make some extra bucks I believe there is a market.  Every airport I have 
been to or know about in my area has a waiting list for hanger space.  The 
KR was never designed to be left outside in the weather and removing and 
replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and from the airport is not 
practical.  The alternitive is a cover that covers the aircraft completly 
and I think you could make these and sell them.  I hope some of you guys 
will chime in on this one and prove that I am correct when I say, "There is 
a market"

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Butterfield" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM
Subject: KR> Covering material


> At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote:
>>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you don't mind my
>>2 cents worth  my favorite material to use especially for canopy covers
>>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch manufactured by MarChem Coated
>>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated polyester that is 
>>waterproof
>>and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so it's not prone to 
>>chaffing
>>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers guarantee.
>
> I'm sure there are probably many places to get this, but here is one:
> www.sailrite.com
>
> If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page 72. $18.50/yd (5' wide)
>
>
> Regards,
> RonB
>
>
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KR> Covering material

[Robert L. Stone]

You say in your message in the first sentence, "I don't know if Ron is An 
upholsterer" and then sign your name as the sender as Ron, Needless to say, 
who are you?
 Anyway what you put out on the net is just about what I was hoping for. 
I now hope that some of the builders of KR Aircraft who need a way to 
protect their aircraft will get in touch  with you and have a cover made.

Bob Stone

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Chisholm" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Covering material


>I don't know if Ron is An upholsterer /Canvass guy but I'm the person that 
>suggested
> the Odyssey Soft Touch And I already have a Pattern for a Stock KR2 Canopy 
> Cover
> and I'd be interested in patterning up wing covers , turtle deck, tail 
> covers and cowling covers
> I manufacture seat sets for Smith Aviation SuperCub replica's 
> www.replicap18@execulink,com and am self employed
> as an Upholsterer and specialize in aircraft related interiors and covers 
> and have at my
> disposal a stock KR2 And KR2S to pattern from and can probably pattern to 
> make universal covers
 Ron
> If you have the skills to make custom covers for KR Aircraft and want
> to make some extra bucks I believe there is a market. Every airport I have
> been to or know about in my area has a waiting list for hanger space. The
> KR was never designed to be left outside in the weather and removing and
> replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and from the airport is 
> not
> practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers the aircraft completly
> and I think you could make these and sell them. I hope some of you guys
> will chime in on this one and prove that I am correct when I say, "There 
> is
> a market"
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Butterfield"
> To: "KRnet"
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM
> Subject: KR> Covering material
>
>
>> At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote:
>>>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you don't mind my
>>>2 cents worth my favorite material to use especially for canopy covers
>>>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch manufactured by MarChem Coated
>>>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated polyester that is
>>>waterproof
>>>and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so it's not prone to
>>>chaffing
>>>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers guarantee.
>>
>> I'm sure there are probably many places to get this, but here is one:
>> www.sailrite.com
>>
>> If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page 72. $18.50/yd (5' wide)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> RonB
>>
>>
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KR> Covering material

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Dennis
 Being the egotistical old bastard I am, I just love it when people 
agree with me, even when I'm wrong, but this time I am sure I am right.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Mingear" <dennisming...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Covering material


> You're right Bob, It will take years if ever for me to
> get a hangar and I agree, removing covers would be
> better than installing and removing wings.
>
> Denny ...
>
> --- "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>  If you have the skills to make custom covers
>> for KR Aircraft and want
>> to make some extra bucks I believe there is a
>> market.  Every airport I have
>> been to or know about in my area has a waiting list
>> for hanger space.  The
>> KR was never designed to be left outside in the
>> weather and removing and
>> replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and
>> from the airport is not
>> practical.  The alternitive is a cover that covers
>> the aircraft completly
>> and I think you could make these and sell them.  I
>> hope some of you guys
>> will chime in on this one and prove that I am
>> correct when I say, "There is
>> a market"
>>
>> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Ron Butterfield" <rbutterfi...@mebtel.net>
>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM
>> Subject: KR> Covering material
>>
>>
>> > At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote:
>> >>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you
>> don't mind my
>> >>2 cents worth  my favorite material to use
>> especially for canopy covers
>> >>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch
>> manufactured by MarChem Coated
>> >>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated
>> polyester that is
>> >>waterproof
>> >>and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so
>> it's not prone to
>> >>chaffing
>> >>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers
>> guarantee.
>> >
>> > I'm sure there are probably many places to get
>> this, but here is one:
>> > www.sailrite.com
>> >
>> > If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page
>> 72. $18.50/yd (5' wide)
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > RonB
>> >
>> >
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>
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>
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KR> The Eggenfellner aircraft engine

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 Can any of you guys tell me anything about the quality, dependability of 
the Eggenfellner Aircraft engines???  I am considering buying an aircraft with 
165 NP Eggenfellner engine installed and know nothing about this new engine.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

KR> The Eggenfellner Engine

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I want to thank all of you guys who took the time to respond to my request 
for information on the Eggfenfellner engine.  I was told obvously by a person 
who did not know what he was talking about that the engine in question was 
really a Lycoming that had been modernized and modified using up to date 
technology and was therefor far better than an original.  
 The ad was for an RV9A.  All ad's I have seen for this aircraft with a 
real Lycoming of 150, 160, or 165 HP are being priced out at $115,000 up to 
$125,000.  This RV9A was priced at $80,000 and now I know why. The low price 
was the first red light the second was the owner said his engine was 165 HP and 
would cruse at 160 miles an hour burning only 6 gallons an hour on auto fuel.  
He didn't say regular or high test.
 Needless to say, I will pass on this one.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

KR> Steve J

[Robert L. Stone]

Netters,
 I to have flown to Catalina from Medowlark Field, Huntington beach 
several times and the only thing I can say about flying over the sea or gulf 
is, if possible get high enough and know your sink rate so if you have an 
engine quite you can glide to land.  None of us are any match for a shark 
and there are sharks in both the gulf and waters off the California coast. 
After retirement from the USAF, I spent 21 years in Huntington 
Beach,California. As a matter of fact, I was a good friend of the late Ken 
Rand who developed the KR aircraft and have a picture of he and I in my 
front room of my home in Huntington Beach having a drink and talking, what 
else  airplanes of course.  If any of you guys want to see what Ken
Rand looked like, just let me know and I will send a copy of that picture.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Steve J


> One accident does not mean you should not fly over water unless you have 
> an artifical horrizon . I'v flown from LA to Catalina (
> 22miles remember) many times in a Taylor Craft or C 150 with no problems. 
> Each situation is different. Bill Starrs
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:52 PM
> Subject: KR> Steve J
>
>
> Heres to Steve and all we learned from him.  He will be missed  especially
> among the KR community.  Flying like all of life can be  dangerous and he
> willingly accepted those risks.  We need to remember that  and always 
> strive to
> lessen those risks where possible.
>For those who dont know - Spins are NOT recommended  in the KR.  Being 
> as
> short as they are it makes recovering difficult or  impossible.  The 2S 
> does
> recover better but still not recommended - watch  your airspeeds and 
> angles of
> attack fellows.  Flying over water is also NOT  recommended unless you 
> have
> had instrument training and are equipped with an  attitude indicator. 
> This
> applies to flying at night as well.  The  days we held the Gathering are 
> proof to
> that fact that visibility during the day  in haze is like flying through
> mushroom soup.  Unless you are prepared and  proficient - stay on the 
> ground or
> plan a safer course of action.  I flew  over the water for about 1 minute 
> a few
> months ago and can attest that at 3500  feet as I passed the coast line 
> the
> horizon dissappeared and I was looking at a  blank blue white haze.  I did 
> a
> slow 180 and saw land immediately and was  okay but I will NOT attemp ANY
> overwater flying until I have an artificial  horizon and a backup.  Fly 
> smart and you
> will fly long, Lord willing.
>God does have his plans for our lives and I know  that we fullfil them
> whether we want to accnowledge Him or not.  I hope the  Steve finds grace 
> with
> God and that we shall see him again.
> Godspeed Steve.
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KR> Joyfull and very SAD day!

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Dan,
 Your new plane looks good except it needs a some bright colors (trim) 
to give it some character and a personality.  It will not fly better but it 
will look better.


Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: KR> Joyfull and very SAD day!


>I took the day off to move the plane to the airport and was sitting here at
> the computer looking out the window, waiting for the truck to arrive. 
> Then
> the terribly sad news came up and I was deeply saddened.  I remember 
> putting
> some early pictures of Steve's plane, before the modifications, on our 
> site.
> I met him for the first time at the gathering and admired him and his 
> plane
>  He became an instant friend and I along with all of you will miss him.
>
> So then the truck did show up and I promised pics at 11, so here they are.
>
> http://krbuilder.org/Airport/index.html
>
> Steve, when I am flying this new plane, I will think of you often.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> is over.
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
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KR> Battery Mount

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Brian,
 I noticed in the second picture at the bottom of this e-mail you have a 
cover that covers your KR completly.  Where in the world did you get that 
cover, I suspect you had it custom made???

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Battery Mount


> You can look at www.engalt.com/kr2.htm and click on engine.  I had a 
> simple
> aluminum sheet metal box with no sides and long bolts on the top.  This is
> the way the plane was when I bought it and it worked fine.  It had some
> insulation wrapped around the battery.
>
> The one thing I would prefer to have if I was starting from scratch is an
> enclosed box to contain the acid if the battery leaks.  You can buy cheap
> bigger battery boxes at boat supply stores.  I assume that you can find
> motorcycle size plastic battery boxes from motorcycle parts suppliers 
> also.
> Make sure that you also have some kind of strap to keep it from coming out
> the top in negative G maneuvers.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of jscott.pi...@juno.com
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:53 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> Battery Mount
>
>
> Mine is done very much like Larry's upper battery.  It sits on a piece of
> 1/4" angle aluminum with a pair of long holddown bolts and a simple strap
> to hold the battery tight against the firewall.
>
> I was told that with my battery sitting about 3 inches from the left
> exhaust pipe, my battery wouldn't last a year.  The first one failed
> after 4 1/2 years and 325 hours.  The second one is 4 years old with 210
> hours behind it and still functions normally.
>
> Jeff Scott
> N1213W
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:25:00 -0500 larry flesner 
> writes:
>>
>> >I need to mount my sealed 15 amp battery onto my firewall.
>> Does anyone
>> >have a picture on their web sight that shows what you have done?
>> Jim Morehead
>> +++
>>
>> When I moved my battery (main battery) to the firewall, I started
>> to build a box/holder but found I didn't have room for anything
>> but what you see in the picture at the following address.  The
>> battery is setting on a small piece of 1/4" alum angle that is
>> fastened to the firewall. The front vertical piece has a small
>> alum angle on the bottom edge of the battery to keep it from
>> slipping upward.  There are three 1/4" bolts that hold the battery
>> to the firewall.  This is a rock solid mount and there is zero
>> movement of the battery.  175 hours and no problems.
>>
>> http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929139.jpg
>>
>> My small backup battery, top battery in the picture, is mounted
>> in a similar fashion.
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
>>
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KR> laptop based GPS display?

[Robert L. Stone]

 I have been using the Garmin 296 for about 7 months and it does 
everything that I need.  I paid $1695.00 when I bought mine but now they are 
down to $1495.00.  This unit is small and light although the screen is large 
enough.  Very suitable for a KR aircraft.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Texas
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:08 AM
Subject: KR> laptop based GPS display?


> KRNetHeads,
>
> It's been kinda quiet lately, and some of you guys are into this kind of 
> stuff, so I'll go ahead and ask.  I'm getting ready to buy some kind of 
> large screen GPS display, and I'm thinking seriously about the Navearo 
> TPad 800 (see http://www.navaero.com/t_pad/specs_touch.asp ).  It's 
> basically just a radio-width (6.2" wide x 9" tall) external screen for my 
> laptap (which I already carry to collect EIS info).  I'd be using my old 
> Garmin GPSMap 95 for GPS info, although I'll probably buy something 
> lighter and smaller for that job as money permits.  The big question for 
> me is what software to run.  The thing has a touchscreen, and whatever 
> will run on a laptop is accessible through this 800x600 display.  True 
> Flight doesn't appear to have road info (which might be important for "I 
> Follow Roads" or during an engine-out landing), and the Jeppesen software 
> doesn't appeal to me for some reason. 0
>
> Any other suggestions as to other hardware or software suggestions are 
> also welcome, but there is a certain appeal in having a screen that I 
> mount to the panel, allowing the "real" hardware and software to be 
> upgraded as technology progresses.  I'm planning to spend about $2000 or 
> so, so the TPad800 and a $500 software package would be perfect, connected 
> to my existing equipment.  I was thinking about a GPSMap 296, but the 
> thought of having something that expensive become obsolete in a few years 
> doesn't appeal to me.  A laptop based system seems much more flexible. 
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Which KR2 to build?

[Robert L. Stone]

Steven,
 The best version of the KR-2 is the KR-2S simply because it has more 
length.  The original KR-2 was designed just a little bit shorter than it 
should have been and this created a control problem.  The KR2S is just a 
stretched out KR-2.  Even if you want a single place the KR2 the S would be 
the one to build because the KR-1 is only 12 feet long and has she same 
problem.  You can build the KR2S and just make the fuselage as narrow as you 
want it to be taking into consideration your size and how roomey you want 
the cockpit to be.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Youschak" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: KR> Which KR2 to build?


>I have been following this forum for about a month. In
> addition, I have read many of the past discussions as
> well as speaking directly to several KR2
> builders/flyers. With this being said, can anyone tell
> me, in a nutshell, what is the best "version" of the
> KR2 to build?
>
> For the record, I am considering a KR2S at approx.
> 16'6" length, widened at the cockpit enough for two
> adults(I don't know how wide is acceptable), Diehl
> Wings at approx. 24', retractable gear, extra fuel
> tanks, two control sticks and rudder pedals with
> throttle in the middle and a Dragonfly canopy that
> opens forward. I will try to keep the weight at
> approx. 640lbs.
>
> For performance, I am going to build based on the new
> Revmaster R-3000 at approx. 110hp which will bolt onto
> a  R-2100 engine mount(according to Revmaster). I
> might even consider adding a PRSU for added
> performance.
>
> My desired specs are to have 1,000+ mile range and a
> cruise speed of 175-185 mph at 75%.
>
> Based on the infomation I have presented, am I "headed
> in the right direction". If not, can someone with
> experience point-me-in-the-right-direction..
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Youschak
>
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KR> RE: Jeff Scott's Modifications

[Robert L. Stone]

Jeff,
 Your KR is so streamlined looking it looks like it's flying sitting on 
the ground.  You did an exceptional job on the wheel pants, they look 
excellent.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Scott" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> RE: Jeff Scott's Modifications


>I pushed 6 photos to .  Fair 
>warning that they aren't very good photos and are large files that you 
>won't want to load via modem.  The plane is not ready to show yet as you'll 
>notice that the trim and registration numbers are missing as well as many 
>other finishing details if you look closely.
>
> Jeff Scott
>
>
>
> -- "Mark Jones"  wrote:
> Great to hear Jeff.  Sounds like you made some neat mods. Good luck on 
> your flight testing. Any photos to share???
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
>
>
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KR> KR landing gear

[Robert L. Stone]

Steve Bray,
 I have no idea, my advice would be to use your search engine to find 
someone who specializes in bearings, give them the dementions you need and 
see what they can do for you.  I did this for a trailer I had that came as a 
kit from China.  I bought it from Harbor Freight real cheap and when I 
inquired about parts, like new wheel bearings, I couldn't even get an answer 
after three tries. I don't remember who I got the bearings from now or I 
would give you their address or phone. Good luck.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com





- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR landing gear


> Joe & Bob
> The bearings in my nose wheel are rough when installed. Its new, never 
> used.
> I pushed them out and they feel good. I tried to buy new ones locally and
> was told that were non-standard.
> I would like to replace them with cone bearings also. Will I have to 
> modifi
> the wheel or can I buy the races that size?
>
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>>Subject: Re: KR> KR landing gear
>>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:44:39 -0500
>>
>>Hi Joe,
>>  I think when you do install roller bearings you will find that they
>>last much longer than ball bearings because the weight and pressure is
>>distributed more evenly on the bearing system
>>
>>Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>>rsto...@hot.rr.com
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Joe Beyer" <fly...@spiretech.com>
>>To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:32 AM
>>Subject: KR> KR landing gear
>>
>>
>> >I have flown both the tail wheel and nose wheel gear on my KR-2 and by
>>far
>> > the nose wheel is the most practical, due to the increased visibility
>>and
>> > superior ground handling characteristics. One bad thing with the nose
>> > wheel
>> > is that if you break it you won't take off, whereas with a bent tail
>>wheel
>> > you can still take off if you had to. At the speed the KR flies the
>>added
>> > drag isn't very great and with the added weight, (about 10 lbs in my
>>case)
>> > it is in the right place, up in the nose. I designed my own landing 
>> > gear
>> > and
>> > have had no problems with the mains but a few with the nose gear. I've
>> > used
>> > a hand truck wheel with the cheap bearings. They work well but after a
>>few
>> > landings they will buzz. When that happens then it's time to upgrade to
>> > the
>> > more expensive ones. Last week the nose bearings went out so I replaced
>> > them
>> > for under ten dollars. They're rated for about 5mph. but if you keep
>>them
>> > greased up real well they can go a lot faster. Tire pressure is at
>>22psi.
>> > with no shimmy problems. I use 4ea. bellview washers stacked so there 
>> > is
>>a
>> > preload on the spindle, which is made of 3/4" cold rolled steel.
>>Recently
>> > my
>> > throttle was set too high and I had some trouble slowing down and that
>>put
>> > some extra load on the nose wheel. With the bellview washers there are
>>no
>> > shimmy problems, and operating on grass isn't too much different than
>> > asphalt. The main wheels are Azusa's with drum brakes and are good for
>> > steering and parking but not as good for stopping. I use the landing
>>roll
>> > for that. I'm in the habit now of staying off of the brakes right after
>> > touch down. I think my next upgrade will be to install tapered roller
>> > bearings up in the nose gear.
>> >
>> > -Joe
>> >
>> >
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> 

KR> More landing gear stuff

[Robert L. Stone]

Joe,
 If you are talking about Portland, Oregon, I grew up there.  I lived at 
3423 S. E. Alder.  Left for service in the Army when I was just 17 in 
December of 1946.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Beyer" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:14 AM
Subject: KR> More landing gear stuff


> Hi Steve
>
> A 3/16 bolt would scare me too. Even if it is an AN bolt. In my case I use 
> a
> peice of 3/4" chromoly steel tube so I can insert a tow bar into one end 
> of
> the wheel fairing and move my plane around on the ground. I've located a
> good tapered bearing from McGuire Bearing Co. here in S.E. Portland that 
> is
> well priced. I want a 3/4" ID and don't want to change anything on my
> nosewheel fork because it works. The specs are: Timken #LM11949 @ $6.49ea.
> (you need 2ea.) This is the bearing itself. The cup, or race, is # LM11910
> @$2.44 ea. and 1.781" OD. I can make it work on my nose wheel. Another
> smaller (sized on the outside) bearing that is available is #4A @ $15.76 
> ea.
> (you need two) and the race for that is #6, @ $5.32 ea. I will go with the
> bigger ones. Do a google search, get the address, and they will ship them 
> to
> you if that's what you want.
>
> -Joe
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:29:16 -0500
> From: "Steve Bray" 
> Subject: RE: KR> Landing Gear (again)
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Hi Joe
> Non-standard in this case means they don't have it. This is a bearing
> distrubitor that I've never been to that didn't have 3 to 5 grades, 
> prices,
> of any size.
> I think the od was standard but the id was odd for the od. I didn't push 
> it
> because I don't like the set-up. It has a 3/16 bolt running through the
> axle. It's a Dehli (sp) set-up and I take it that this works but I want 
> more
> between my prop and the ground. I'm a ways from useing it but when the 
> time
> comes think I will make another axle in a common size, 3/4, and put a 3/8
> bolt through it.
> To put cone bearings in means they would need a nut on each end to keep 
> the
> pre-load right. Ball bearings should work fine if they are good ones.
> As I say I'm a ways off and still thinking of going back to a tailwheel 
> but
> was wondering if other people were using this set-up,
>
>>that 3/16 bolt scares
> me.
>
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
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KR> KR-2 Building Assistance

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Charlie,
 Where do you live?  There may be past or present builders in your area 
however you should have included your location in order to get replies.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: KR> KR-2 Building Assistance


> To All,
>
> Requesting help in finding building assistance for compensation.  I began 
> the
> process of re-building my KR-2 but have been overcome by work.  Please 
> reply
> via email to ccheathe...@aol.com .
>
> Thanks
>
> Charles
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KR> KR-2 Building Assistance

[Robert L. Stone]

Charlie,
 South Carolina is a large state so be specific, you just might find a 
builder or former builder who would be willing to help within a few miles.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-2 Building Assistance


> Members,
> Reference KR-2 building assistance.
> My KR is located in South Carolina.  However, can transport throughout the
> southeast.
> Charles
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KR> Nose Gear question

[Robert L. Stone]

Jeff,
 I have the same problem with my spam can (Cessna 152).  If I taxi too 
fast the nose wheel will start to shimmy and I have to come to an almost 
complete stop to get it to track straight.  If I taxi reasonable slow like 
maybe ten miles an hour, I have no problem.  On landing and take off, I keep 
the nose wheel of the runway as well as I can until the speed is enough for 
take off or when landing I keep the yoke back as long as I can so I am 
slowed down before the nose wheel touches.  My aircraft is equipped with a 
shimmy dampener and as far as I can see nothing is wrong with it.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: KR> Nose Gear question


> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I 
> am going to try and get your alls advise.
>
> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose 
> gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose 
> came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set 
> back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the 
> nose gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually 
> wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of 
> balance with the engine.
> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach 
> and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time 
> getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) 
> type throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally 
> slowed down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
>
> Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to 
> hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent 
> before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose 
> wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told 
> indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In 
> testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self 
> center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way 
> that information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I 
> just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
>
> Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed 
> thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this 
> centering bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be 
> contained ) ?
>
> Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush 
> speed before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the whole 
> thing. Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine 
> mount / fire wall?
>
> Your thoughts experiences?
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
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KR> Nose Gear question

[Robert L. Stone]

 I have heard lots of people scornfully refer to the nose wheel as a 
training wheel and regard pilots who fly airplanes with one as not real 
pilots and it doesn't bother me a bit.  I learned to fly on a nose wheel 
airplane and to me getting tail dragger qualified would be backing up.  The 
nose wheel was a great improvement when it first came out and almost 
eliminates ground looping so it's a good thing even if the tail dragger 
pilots refuse to recognize it as such.  It is just really a matter of 
personal preference.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


-- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Steve,
> I resent that comment about the training gear. Let me tell you what my
> Dad once told me when I was a little boy and would put off doing
> thingsand I quote "Son, there are a lot of things in life we do not
> want to do and will put them off. Now quit dragging your tail and get it
> done." I have not dragged my tail since. Oh yea and just a little
> note...when I returned from the 2005 KR Gathering, my hanger mate right
> next to me who has an Avid tail dragger lost it on landing the day
> before I returned and totaled his plane. He has two destroyed wings, a
> bent fuselage and a shattered ego. He is a very experienced tail dragger
> pilot who now wishes he had installed a nose gear. To each his own, they
> are all beautiful flying machines and each takes special skills to
> master. :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobs
>
> ... no more shimmy.Like I said, for what it is worth.
>
> (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
>
> Steve Jacobs
> Zambia
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

[Robert L. Stone]

Bob,
 I had a friend put some weight on the tail and checked the shimmy 
dampner and got very good resistenance in both directions so I don't think 
that's the problem.  However next time I am in Temple where my maintenance 
guy is, I will have him check it.
\
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Glidden" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> You need to get your dampner replaced,or atleast checked you can't look at
> them and tell if they are bad.And Cessna 152's dampners go out often...
>
> Bob Glidden
> Eminence,Indiana
> KR2S N181FW (building)
> Corvair 110
> glid...@ccrtc.com
>
>
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KR> KR landing gear

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Joe,
 I think when you do install roller bearings you will find that they 
last much longer than ball bearings because the weight and pressure is 
distributed more evenly on the bearing system

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Beyer" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:32 AM
Subject: KR> KR landing gear


>I have flown both the tail wheel and nose wheel gear on my KR-2 and by far
> the nose wheel is the most practical, due to the increased visibility and
> superior ground handling characteristics. One bad thing with the nose 
> wheel
> is that if you break it you won't take off, whereas with a bent tail wheel
> you can still take off if you had to. At the speed the KR flies the added
> drag isn't very great and with the added weight, (about 10 lbs in my case)
> it is in the right place, up in the nose. I designed my own landing gear 
> and
> have had no problems with the mains but a few with the nose gear. I've 
> used
> a hand truck wheel with the cheap bearings. They work well but after a few
> landings they will buzz. When that happens then it's time to upgrade to 
> the
> more expensive ones. Last week the nose bearings went out so I replaced 
> them
> for under ten dollars. They're rated for about 5mph. but if you keep them
> greased up real well they can go a lot faster. Tire pressure is at 22psi.
> with no shimmy problems. I use 4ea. bellview washers stacked so there is a
> preload on the spindle, which is made of 3/4" cold rolled steel. Recently 
> my
> throttle was set too high and I had some trouble slowing down and that put
> some extra load on the nose wheel. With the bellview washers there are no
> shimmy problems, and operating on grass isn't too much different than
> asphalt. The main wheels are Azusa's with drum brakes and are good for
> steering and parking but not as good for stopping. I use the landing roll
> for that. I'm in the habit now of staying off of the brakes right after
> touch down. I think my next upgrade will be to install tapered roller
> bearings up in the nose gear.
>
> -Joe
>
>
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KR> Like Nascar and Football/Baseball

[Robert L. Stone]

Colin,
 I don't think the suggestion of having two get togethers would or 
should upset anyone.  Anyway this is the same thing I suggested only you 
were more detailed and said it better than I did.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: KR> Like Nascar and Football/Baseball


> Not to upset anyone, but I have been thinking for a while that we should 
> have 2 events a year. Nascar has 2 major races at the same tracks each 
> year, football and baseball play the same teams at least twice, and clubs 
> like the Bonanza Club and Mooney Club meet once a week to once a month for 
> breakfast/brunch in local areas.  Even the bike runs I attend happen twice 
> a year, Biketoberfest in the Fall, and Bike Week in the Spring.
>
> It seems to me that if it were organized well with 2 different hosts, 
> maybe 2 slightly different locations, one event sometime in the Spring, 
> and one in the Fall, more people could attend one or the other, or both. 
> The biggest thing I can see is that it would raise the enthusiasm of the 
> builders, because they could meet with their friends more often, touch and 
> feel KRs more often, and just raise overall camaraderie of the KR 
> community.  Sun n Fun is fine, but KRs are dwarfed at Sun n Fun, and too 
> much of that event is commercialized (no offense Virgil).  I have been to 
> Sun n Fun 4 times and feel that there is NOT enough contact with actual 
> builders, whether it be kit built or plans built.  The Gathering does 
> that.  If agreeable we could call them The Gathering in the Fall, and The 
> Get Together in the Spring.  The world of bikes and Nascar, and sports 
> have seen no detriment to twice a year, I don't believe we would either. 
> The Southern Rebels have been talking for 2 years now about h
>
> Ok, said my piece and then some...
> Back to finishing the assembly of my Corvair...
> Hey Langford, when you get a chance, let me know about your test prop you 
> ran your engine on please, off net, thanks.
>
> Colin Rainey
> KSFB
> N96TA
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KR> How to widen and KR2

[Robert L. Stone]

Larry,
 I remember someone talking on the net about building a KR2S as a very 
roomy single place.  Fridays are the day of the week when members of the 
KRNet are allowed to place adds.  I would advertise this KR2S as being 
started as a single place and be sure to put in the width of the cockpit 
along with how far along construction is and also the quality of 
workmanship.  Someone is going to see your add that has plans to build a 
single place KR2S and realize that he/she can save themselves a lot of time, 
work, and money.  There are many builders who look for a started aircraft to 
build for these reasons.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rstos...@hot.rr.com


- Original Message - 
From: "L. D. Mueller" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: KR> How to widen and KR2


> Help! I just bought the KR2S that was on Barnstormers in Sparta MI. The
> cabin width is 32"? The plane is at the boat stage with both spars in 
> place.
> Any ideas of widening this fuse so my wife and I can fly together--without 
> a
> complete rebuild? We would need 38" to be comfortable. Or should I put it 
> up
> for sale . . . ; - )
>
> And thanks for all the hospitality @ KMVN. We enjoyed all of it--Nancy
> especially enjoyed the rides and flying that she got.
>
> Larry and Nancy Mueller
>
>
> L. D. Mueller
> 521 North Madison Street
> Cuba City, WI 53807
> 608-744-
>
>
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KR> Gathering Date

[Robert L. Stone]

Rick,
 You are right about the president being at his ranch from time to time 
however this is not a problem.  All one has to do is follow published 
procedures and you can go anywhere within P49 except the last ten miles from 
the ranch.  File a flight plan, get a transponder code from Gray Approach 
Control and be squawking the entire time you are in the air and in the 30 
mile circle, and finally be in radio contact with Gray or Waco until you get 
within 2 miles of the airport in P49 where you intend to land.  They will 
then instruct you to go to the airport frequency and make your calls.  In 
the event you are intercepted by one of the patrolling F-16's just go to 
121.5 and follow the F-16's pilot instructions.  I have made trips from 
Skylark Field in Killeen to Temple when the president was at his ranch and 
never had any problem what-so-ever.

Bob Stone



- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Human" <rahu...@ev1.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date


> Only problem with Killeen is that it is usually affected by GB's 
> schedule -
> His ranch is near and when he's there it become a no fly zone - do you 
> know
> the procedure when F-16's appear off your wing?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date
>
>
>> Dear Netheads,
>>  After reading many posts about the just passed get together and
>> understanding how much you guys look florward to seeing each other and
>> exchanging ideas, etc why not have two gatherings during the year. 
>> Spring
>> time just as it starts to warm up but is not real hot yet and Fall just
>> before it is too cold.  Also, have your get together in the most central
>> part of the country.  The airport here in Killeen, Texas (Skylark field)
>> would be a perfect place since the new Regional Airport was opened there
> is
>> very little activity at Skylark Field.  There is also plenty of space to
>> park KR aircraft.
>> Fuel is also cheaper there than any other airport in this area that I 
>> know
>> of.
>>
>> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com>
>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date
>>
>>
>> >A couple of thoughts when considering dates.  Early Spring usually 
>> >brings
>> > some pretty stiff winds here in central IL.  Also, in late October, it
>> > starts getting dark pretty early in the evening - 5:00 or so after the
>> > time
>> > change.  Either the last week in Sept. or the first week in October
> would
>> > be
>> > my choice.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > Ed Janssen
>> > mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
>> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:00 PM
>> > Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date
>> >
>> >
>> >> I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not
>> >> spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying
>> >> weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I
> have
>> >> experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip in
>> >> their ideas and see what the consensus is.
>> >> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> >> Wales, WI
>> >> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>> >> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>> >> Behalf Of Dan Heath
>> >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM
>> >> To: kr...@mylist.net
>> >> Subject: KR> Gathering Date
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I believe that better weather is available during the month of October
>> >> and
>> >> over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather
>> >> conditions
>> >> during the month of September.  I have now flown to 4 gatherings and
>> >> this
>> >> was the first time that I was abl

KR> KR-1 Fuselage and Remaster Eng for Sale

[Robert L. Stone]

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:02 AM
Subject: KR> KR-1 Fuselage and Remaster Eng for Sale


>I have a KR-1 Fuselage with sliding canopy and retracts with a Revmaster 
>2100
> for sale.  The eng has 50hrs with logs.  All flight and eng instruments in 
> panel,
> Warnke Prop, Seat, Seat belt/shoulder harness. Hyd disc brakes. Engine 
> controls.
>
> Engine installed (Deihl eng mount)and running great. Lots of pics. Lots of 
> extras.
>
> Asking $5500 OBO.
> Andrew Lee
> sixfeetsm...@alaweb.com
>
>
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KR> Long, long sandpaper

[Robert L. Stone]

Builders,
 I have never seen sandpaper in long narrow strips for sale in any hardware 
store I have ever been in and I have looked.  The reason I was looking for long 
strips of sandpaper was so I could glue a strip on a board about 6 to 7 feet 
long and 4 inches wide for sanding the foam on the wings down to the  wood 
ribs.  Any of you out there that would like to know of a source of sandpaper in 
long strips contact me off net and I will send a copy of the catalog front 
cover showing the company name, address and phone number or you may contact 
them and get a catalog at:   
   http://www.ahabrasives.com

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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KR> Long, long sandpaper

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 Sorry bout that.  I saw the URL on the cover of their catalog but never 
tried to look at it so I was not aware that it would not work.  I will send 
a picture of the cover of the catalog where you will find that URL as well 
as phone numbers and their street address.  Since attachments are not 
permited on the KRNet, I will send direct to you.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Long, long sandpaper


> Bob, that link does not work
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Robert
> L. Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: KR Builders Pilots
> Subject: KR> Long, long sandpaper
>
>
> Builders,
> I have never seen sandpaper in long narrow strips for sale in any
> hardware store I have ever been in and I have looked.  The reason I was
> looking for long strips of sandpaper was so I could glue a strip on a
> board about 6 to 7 feet long and 4 inches wide for sanding the foam on
> the wings down to the  wood ribs.  Any of you out there that would like
> to know of a source of sandpaper in long strips contact me off net and I
> will send a copy of the catalog front cover showing the company name,
> address and phone number or you may contact them and get a catalog at:
>
>   http://www.ahabrasives.com
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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KR> hapi hall effect ign module -

[Robert L. Stone]

Phil,
 I suspect you tried to send a picture of the modules as an attachments 
and attachments are not allowed on the KRNet.  There is a way around this 
when you want to send a picture or any image for that matter do it in the 
following manner.
Use a page from Microsoft Word for your message because you can import 
pictures or images on to it.  When you message is complete, convert it to an 
e-mail and send it.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: "phil brookman" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:08 AM
Subject: KR> hapi hall effect ign module -


hi does anyone know where i can get one of these ign modules from or what 
are they out of
mine has just fried -and does anyone know  y this would occur ,
there are 2 in my hapi engine and the other one seems fine
these modules are the ones in an aluminium round case at the front of the 
engine
thanks all
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KR> Amount of paint

[Robert L. Stone]

Jim,
 Mine took 1 & 1/2 gallons of white for the basic color and a half pint 
of yellow and green  for the trim.  Of course this depends on the trim 
pattern.  You can see mine on the KR year book, 
http://www.krnet.org/krnet_yearbook.htm  about the 20th or 21st down.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Morehead" 
To: "KR- Net" 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: KR> Amount of paint


> Netters,
>Can a KR2 be painted with one gallon of paint or should I order two
> gallons?
>
> Jim Morehead
> Cameron Park, CA
>
> Getting closer!
>
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KR> Internet list not working

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Ryan,
 It will not open for me either.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ryan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: KR> Internet list not working


> http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/
> 
> Is this site working for anyone else?
> 
> Ryan
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KR> Kr-1 Wanted

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Ryan,
 Check "BARNSTORMERS" at http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php  go to the 
Experemental section under KR aircraft and you may find one there for sale. 
There are always some KR aircraft being offered.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ryan" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: KR> Kr-1 Wanted


>I am looking for a flying Kr-1 to buy.
>
> I am in San Diego, CA.. [858] 273-4051
> e-mail  rr...@san.rr.com .
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
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KR> kr meet

[Robert L. Stone]

Hay FIXERJONES,
 I have an up to date copy of "Flight Guide" Published in California. 
Just let me know what airport you will be going into and I will send you a 
drawing of the airport with full information.  I tried to send you a drawing 
of Mt Vernon but my system tells me that your e-mail address is no good and 
attachments cannot be sent via the KRNet. Just so people who reply to your 
messages know what to call you, why not finish your message like this.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: KR> kr meet


> does anyone have an extra airport directory of ILL.   the easterd  states
> directory cover everything from fla to Ind. but not ILL. i hate to spend 
> $30
> bucks for a directory that i'll use 1 time only.  gettin everything  ready 
> for
> the BIG trip. let's all hope for gd flyin weather to &  from,,steve
> jones,venice fl
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KR> Practical?

[Robert L. Stone]

Eric,
 Why not relocate to Snowflake and try to get a place close to the 
airport and work.  With the cost of motor fuel and aviation fuel this is 
exatly what I would do.  The airport here where I live has refused year 
after year so build more hangers enen thoulgh when I came here 16 years ago 
there were 16 people on the waiting list and now there are 38 so I am going 
to sell my Cessna 152 and get an aircraft that is qualified under the sport 
pilot rules and has folding wings.  I heard about one with a 912 Rotax 
engine (1500 Hrs TBO) and it uses auto fuel.  I will trailer it back and 
forth from home to the airport and they will not make a dime off of me.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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-


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From: "Eric Vance" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:38 PM
Subject: KR> Practical?


I'm thinking about using a KR to commute to work 3 days a week. I'd like to
get some feedback from you on the practicality of what I'm thinking
about. Here's
the situation?

 I work in Scottsdale, AZ about 1 mile from the Scottsdale Airport. I am
thinking about moving to Snowflake, AZ. Snowflake is about 160 miles from
work by car. There is a small airport in Taylor (very close to Snowflake). I
am guessing that the distance from the Taylor airport to Scottsdale is about
120 miles. Would it be practical to fly a KR to and from work 3 days a week? 
I
would expect there to be $5K-$10K per year in fuel, maintenance, etc. Is
this a reasonable expectation?

 Any ideas, suggestions, advice, or other feedback is greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Eric
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KR> Todays Flight

[Robert L. Stone]

Hi Mark,
 With such a vived imagination, you don't really need an airplane.  Good 
luck and happy/safe flying with the one you have.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tex
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: KR> Todays Flight


> Today again I was up at dawn and headed to the airport. What a beautiful
> morning for flying. I headed over to Lake Michigan and went north up the
> shore line to Oshkosh and circled north of the field. Then I went west
> before turning back south to Hartford for a beautiful approach and 
> landing.
> The only thing about this flight was that it was pure fantasy as I never
> left the hanger. It was one of those flights where you get in the KR and
> make airplane noises with your eyes closed while pretending to go 
> somewhere.
> For those of you who do not know, my engine is torn down right now while I
> am waiting on parts to arrive for re-assembly. However, I did install a
> Narco 11A Com this morning. The radio works great and is a huge 
> improvement
> over a handheld. Now the tower can't say I am scratchy and unreadable.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>
>
>
>
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KR> WAF

[Robert L. Stone]

Jaco,
 One of the things that the designer, the late Ken Rand stressed when 
giving people advice on building his aircraft whether it be the KR-1 or the 
KR-2,  is be careful not to OVER BUILD and end up with a "Lead Sled".  Of 
course the "Lead Sled" reference meant too dam heavy.  If you use the 
recomended power and build according to plans, nothing needs to be beefed 
up.  Built acording to plans, this is a very strong airplane.  Of course if 
you put more than the recomended power under the cowling, then some areas 
would possibly need to be beefed up and if you are not an aeronautical 
engineer, you better get one's advice.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jaco Swanepoel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: KR> WAF


> Hallo Guys,
> I have increased the dimensions on my wing spars with approx 15% and also 
> fitted 6 ply mahogany plywood to each side instead of 3 ply. The wings are 
> fitted with wing tanks and came out beautifully, but the thing is this, 
> The WAF are still the same. I am sure that the 32 liter tanks on each side 
> should help with unloading the WAF. Should I redo the WAF or could I fit a 
> stretch plate between the top inboard WAF and the bottom outboard WAF 
> (front and rear)? I plan on operating the plane at a 1250 lbs Gross 
> weight. The horisontal stabiliser has been extended 4 inches per side, the 
> vertical stabiliser has also been extended with 4 inchesand the wing span 
> is 24.2 ft (RAF48). Any thoughts?
>
> Jaco Swanepoel
> South Africa
> KR2S _ ZU-DVP
>
>
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KR> Archves

[Robert L. Stone]

Jack,
 I gave this one a shot and got the same as you did.

 http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp

   The web site must be down.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Cooper" 
To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" ; "KR 
builders and pilots" 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:53 AM
Subject: KR> Archves


> My links to KR and Corvaircraft nets archives are not working. Can 
> somebody confirm  the archives are up and running. I get page not found on 
> both archive links when in the recent past they have both worked.
>
>
> Jack Cooper
> kr2coo...@earthlink.net
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KR> new pics

[Robert L. Stone]

Ron,
 It's been a good many years since I built so I was surprised to see 
foam being used on the fuselage.  When I built my KR-2 from 1976 to 1978 the 
fuselage was just spruce and plywood skin.  It looks like from the pictures 
you are using foam and then glassing over it?  This is the way the plans 
called for building the tail feathers, upper fudelage and wings but not the 
bottom fuselage.  Is this called for in the "S" plans or just your own 
design?

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tex
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Smith" 
To: ; "ROGER" ; "Sandy" 
; "sandy42" 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: KR> new pics


> Hello Knetters,
>
> I have some new pics for you
>
> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
>
> Regards,
> Ron Smith,
> Cypress Ca, U.S.
>
> Kr2s boat stage
>
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KR> Bill of sale question

[Robert L. Stone]

Bill Huntley
 I don't know about aircraft but I built a boat and trailer and when I went 
to register same I was told that all I needed for a home built was a 
"Certificate of Origin". A certificate of origin is produced by the builder.   
I was further advised that in order to avoid being taxed, also furnish receipts 
for the materiels used to create both the boat and trailer.  If you are a 
member of EAA, I am sure if you contact the following person:   Joe Norris, EAA 
Aviation Services, EAA Aviation Center, Oshkosh, WI  888 322-4636, extension 
6806jnor...@eaa.org,
he will have an answer for you.

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- Original Message - 
From: "WILLIAM HUNTLEY" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: KR> Bill of sale question


> Does anyone have any experience with registering a aircraft kit without a 
> bill of sale (Glastar bankruptcy)
> I started out with a KR2 which I donated to a non-profit that works with 
> Diabetic pilots and switched to the Glastar. I received the complete kit but 
> no Bill of sale. Any ideas are welcome!
> Thanks in advance KR guys and gals
> Bill Huntley
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KR> Engines

[Robert L. Stone]

 This message is for all of you builders in England or as most of you say 
the United Kingdom.
 Have any of you considered using an engine designed and proven for 
aircraft.  A few builders here have and they are using the Continental O-200.  
The engine is rated at 100 horse power and will move a KR-2 or KR-2S like a 
jet.  There is one for sale on Barnstormers. here is the URL
http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php   The price is $6,500.00 but the seller may 
come down a bit.  I have no idea what the price for shipping to wherever you 
live in the UK.  Since there are American manufactured aircraft already in the 
UK, these engines may be available there.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, 
Texas, USA
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KR> 4130 steel

[Robert L. Stone]

Serge,
 I made my own wing attach fittings from the material you describe below 
and I got it from Aircraft Spruce.  Just be careful when you drill cut or 
grind. that you do not heat the metal and thus spoil or change the temper. 
The process will take a lot of time but considering the price of ready made 
WAF's, it's worth it unless you are wealthy it's a good way to go.

Bob Stone Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: KR> 4130 steel


> If I buy strips of 4130 steel of the correct thickness from Aircraft
> Spruce, can I use them as they are to make WAFs, or is there any treatment
> (other that surface treatment) that I must apply?
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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KR> 4130 steel

[Robert L. Stone]

Netheads,
 The following statement by Don Reid is the best advice I have ever seen 
when it comes to using a band saw for cutting to the proper length or a 
grinder for rounding corners.

   "If you can hold the steel in your bare hand while you are making 
your
 part(s), then the you have not caused any significant heat related 
change
 in the mechanical properties of the steel."

 I have no answer except go very slow and dip the part in water often. 
When it comes to drilling the holes, I used the following method.  Fill a 
small pan with water and put about a 5 inch length of 2" X 4" wood block in 
the pan.  Lay the part to be drilled in the block and push the block and 
part down so you can do the drilling with the part under water.  The part 
needs to be only about 1/2 inch under.  Using this method it is easy to 
control the tempture of the part being drilled and if the water starts to 
warm up, put in some ice cubes.  The part being drilled should never get so 
hot that you cannot hold it with your bare hand so the temper properties 
will remain the same.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Reid" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: KR> 4130 steel


> At 03:38 PM 6/6/2005, you wrote:
>>If I buy strips of 4130 steel of the correct thickness from Aircraft
>>Spruce, can I use them as they are to make WAFs, or is there any treatment
>>(other that surface treatment) that I must apply?
>
> You would get the steel in a Normalized (N) condition.  After the milling
> process, the steel is raised to approximately 100 degrees F above its
> critical temperature and then allowed to cool in still air ( meaning
> slowly).  The critical temperature is where the steel is no longer
> magnetic.  It relieves the milling stresses and helps prevent subsequent
> failure.  My generic reference manual, Marks' Standard Handbook For
> Mechanical Engineers, does not list 4130, but the typical temperature for
> carbon steel is 1500-1700 degrees F.  Annealing temperature is typically
> lower by 100 to 500 degrees.
>
> If you can hold the steel in your bare hand while you are making your
> part(s), then the you have not caused any significant heat related change
> in the mechanical properties of the steel.  If you do get it too hot to
> hold, then let it cool slowly in still air and it will be fine.
>
>
>
> Don Reid  -  donreid "at" peoplepc.com
> Bumpass, Va
>
> Visit my web sites at:
>
> AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program:
> http://aerofoilengineering.com
>
> KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm
> Aviation Surplus: http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm
> EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org
> Ultralights: http://usua250.org
> VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org
>
>
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KR> N56ML flies!

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark, 
 I knew your aircraft would be a winner.  Congratulations and fly safe.

Bob Stone


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:10 PM
Subject: KR> N56ML flies!


> See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/first_flights/ for details...
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> final weight and balance

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 As you may or may not know Ken Rand was a good friend of mine when he 
was alive and we both lived two blocks apart in Huntington Beach, 
California.  He used to call KR's that he considered over built "lead 
sleds".  He also said many times "anything will fly with enough power".  I 
personally believe that an aircraft should have an engine that was designed 
by competent engineers for aircraft.  The best one of these I can think of 
is a Lycoming and if I had it to do over I would build a KR2S and for power, 
I would use a l25 horse power Lycoming.  That would haul a pair of two 
hundred pound guys with a climb rate of at least 1500 feet per minute and 
with the right prop  cruise in level flight would be about 215 mph.  If you 
wanted to go to the expence of having both, an air adjustable pitch prop 
would do both.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: KR> final weight and balance


>I just put my plane on the Atkins diet! There are a lot of things I 
>could have done to save weight. My turtle deck is one area. It is about two 
>inches taller than stock and way too thick as are my wing skins. Also I 
>have a lot of unnecessary things like strobes, nav lights and landing 
>lights, electric speed brake, etc, etc... As I was building, I had one goal 
>in mind and that was to make a safe cross country flying machine. 
>Passengers will be few and far between as my wife will not even fly in 
>small spam cans. The kids are very light weight so when they fly with me 
>that will be no biggie. The nose gear adds a few more pounds as does the 
>aluminum wing tanks. I added 2 inches in front of the main spar to the 
>fuselage as well as widened it by 3 inches. Maybe a lighter battery would 
>help or I could ditch that heavy T indicator that I consider not needed 
>and replace it with a simple ball slip indicator. There are a lot of things 
>to lower the weight but I am happy with the plane the
>
> Mark Jones
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark Langford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:34 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> final weight and balance
>
>
> OZ wrote:
>
>> So... your airplane came in 39 lbs. lighter than Mark Jones'.
>
> I'm not exactly sure what it was that I left out, but hope it wasn't
> important!  All I can think of at the moment would be the kitchen sink.
> There are several places where rethinking and redoing things (like the
> airfoils) cost me some weight.  I'm pretty sure I could build it 10-15
> pounds lighter next time around.  But keep in mind that I have all the 
> nice
> stuff like huge electric flaps, full electrical system, giant 130 
> horsepower
> engine, landing, nav lights, and strobes, redundant electrical system, two
> fuel pumps, dual sticks, adjustable horizontal stabilizer, double-walled
> wing skins, etc.  It all adds up, I guess.  I just weighed my wings and 
> they
> are 48 pounds each, but keep in mind that all bellcranks, cables, and
> connectors are part of my wings, rather than the airplane (like most other
> KRs).  But surely your average KR wing must be far less, especially
> considering the size of my flaps, ailerons, and aileron counterweights.
>
> I've elaborated some more on the weight and balance at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/weightandbalance.html , and provided 
> links
> to the spreadsheet and a pdf file of it for those who don't have Excel...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Sign your E-mail

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I agree with you 100%.   Every one who posts a message on the KRNet 
should let the readers know who they are and where they live.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:21 PM
Subject: KR> Sign your E-mail


> Some of you guys never sign your e-mail with your name or location. Why? 
> Do you not want us to know who you are or where you are located? It is 
> pure courtesy to do so.Surely, if you can build an airplane, you can tell 
> us who you are and where you are located.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
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KR> KR web page

[Robert L. Stone]

Mark,
 I just tried and it's back up with the first KR-2S (blue & white) being 
one of the best looking KRs I have seen.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: KR> KR web page


> Wow, http://www.krnet.org/ is down. I do not think I have ever seen this 
> happen before.
>
> Mark Jones
>
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KR> Anyone interested in a 95% finished KRS

[Robert L. Stone]

Bob,
 I am interested and would like to see some pictures and a full 
description of installed equipment.  Pictures should be close up and 
distance showing the entire aircraft.  Please include your location in the 
country and does the owner have a trailer for the plane?

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Jeppesen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: KR> Anyone interested in a 95% finished KRS


>I have a gentleman who is 83 years young that has a 95% finished KR2S
> project in his garage and wishes to get rid of it.  It has a more than
> complete instrument panel including radio and VOR, and a Revmaster 2100
> turbo.  Let me know.
>
>
>
> Bob Jeppesen
>
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KR> KR for sale

[Robert L. Stone]

The last I heard, Les Palmer did not have internet nor even a computer.  I 
guess he became disenchanted with his computer so he canceled his internet 
service.  Also I think his aircraft although very well built is not an S, 
it's just a standard KR-2 with a try-gear.
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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR for sale


>   I am inquiring about les palmers KR-2S that is for sale. I don't know if
> you can help  me or do I go directly to ronev...@cox.net?   Caryl
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KR> Video of First Flight

[Robert L. Stone]

James,
 The first two and a half or three minutes is buffering, then the scene 
of his take-off comes on for a very short time.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com



- Original Message - 
From: "JAMES C FERRIS" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Video of First Flight


> This is a bunch of crap there is no flight here I have ran it three times
> already.
> Jim
>
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