KR> Fuel tank pressure test

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Be aware the balloon will expand and contract with any change in tank 
temperature. Take your measurements when the temperature is the same on 2 
consecutive days. 
Paul. 

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From: "Paul VISK via KRnet" 
To: "KR EMAIL BOARD" , "PPaulVsk at aol.com" 
Cc: "Paul VISK" 
Subject: KR> Fuel tank pressure test
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 9:29 AM

A cheap way to pressure test your fuel tank. $1.00 bag of balloons at the 
dollar store.  I learned it from a Lancer builder. 

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

KR> 912 ULS

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hi Robert, Ross Evans in Brisbane has a 912 in his, I can send pictures and put 
you in contact. 
Paul. 

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Subject: KR> 912 ULS
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Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2015 8:50 PM

HI, i'm after some info about installing a Rotax 912 ULS 100 hp in my kr2.

KR> Fire in florist foam.

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Interesting to watch the progress of a burn through a block of florist foam. 
See YouTube link below. 

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From: "Smith, Paul" 
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Subject: nikel
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 9:12 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4jl7n9fpA4

Cheers,

Paul Smith

KR> KR Forum at Airventure

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Thank you Pete, looking forward to meeting you. 
Paul. 

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Subject: KR> KR Forum at Airventure
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2015 12:02 PM

Paul
I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074.
Pete Klapp

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:26:09 +1000
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Forum at Airventure
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: pk.smith at bigpond.net.au
> 
> Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up 
> with any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. 
> Paul from Brisbane, Australia. 
> 
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> Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2015 9:15 AM
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KR> Airventure

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Thanks Sid, we are picking up a campervan and will be in the camping ground. 
Looking forward to meeting you all. 
Paul. 

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Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2015 5:56 AM

I will be camping there all week.  I can provide ground transport with my 
pickup truck.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Mobile 240-538-8465

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Paul
I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074.
Pete Klapp

KR> KR Forum at Airventure

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up with 
any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. 
Paul from Brisbane, Australia. 

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KR> Two up?

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Had a friend with a standard KR who built an 8" deep cushions for his wife. The 
cushion was hollowed out in back and could be filled with clothing. They went 
everywhere in that little bird. Google "VH-XXS" stood for eXtra eXtra small 
:-). 
Paul, Brisbane, Australia. 

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Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 7:32 AM

I've wondered why we don't slightly offset seats in narrow aircraft so that 
shoulders are separated by six inches for and aft? Hips rarely move much when 
arms are always active. Call it semi-tandem seat.

KR> Another prop available

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Do you think it would make a good climb prop for an O200 if so I'll tale it if 
you are willing to pack it for OS shipping. 
Paul, Brisbane, Australia. 

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Subject: KR> Another prop available
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 10:16 AM

Hello KRNet
I recently posted a maple prop available.  That prop is gone.
I have another one, though - and is available for anyone who can use it. Free.
This is a Mahogany 52 x 62 with fiberglassed tips and leading edge protection.  
At 3 1/2" thick, it weighs just 5 lbs 1 oz  and was made for a Continental A-75 
with a type 1 hub on my KR2 (rotates clockwise from the cockpit).  It was made 
to utilize lower RPM than Revmaster series.

I never used it because I swapped out engines - it was just mounted 
temporarily.  Sorry I can't provide the finish thickness - except to mention it 
was made for northwest operation (wet), so presumably it is coated well. I also 
can't provide other interesting trivia (glue, crush info, water composition, 
etc) because I don't know.  It is a Props Inc model and is in pristine 
condition.  My understanding is bolt sequencing, torquing, re-torquing, and 
alignment/tracking is subjective, so please don't ask me that either.  Also, 
the prop position with regards to crankshaft position (with hand vs electrical 
starting) is also subjective.   That means you'd have to figure all that out on 
your own.

Email me off the list if you're interested - and I can send you a photo of it.

Weldon Jennings


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KR> Tail Section Hinge Points

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hi Mark, I have seen the 2 options you describe but dislike both. The servo in 
the elevator adds a little weight to the control which adversely affects 
flutter susceptiblity. This meanst additional counterbalance weight which in 
turn adds mass in the tail, something I'd like to avoid . The nyrod into the 
tail option has a couple of 'S' bends which adds a little friction to the 
control rod. Have you or anyone reading this seen the servo mounted in the 
horizontal stab with a shorter nyrod directly in line with the tab?
Paul, Brisbane Australia. 

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To: "KRnet" 
Subject: KR> Tail Section Hinge Points
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 11:55 AM

See http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/nyrod.jpg for a photo...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Fw: waf

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Worked for me. 

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Subject: KR> Fw:  waf
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 11:11 AM

See below from Rob Schmitt.  I'm fooling around with list settings.  If this 
makes it, I'll be on to something...

From: Robert7721 at aol.com 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> waf


I remember having the same issue. If I recall correctly I just added an 
additional piece of 3/32nd plywood on the center main spar forward side to get 
the additional space needed so the outers wing WAFS would slide into the 
centers. I did not have to do that at the rear spar.

Rob Schmitt


In a message dated 11/12/2013 7:11:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, ml at 
n56ml.com writes:
>>I'm seeing that the fwd center spar is 2.16" wide not including the plywood. 
>>The fwd outer spar is 2.16" also. Doesn't the outer spar need to be narrower 
>>for the waf to go inside the center spar waf? I know it does I'm just missing 
>>something. rk from Sprint! <<

They must not nest then.  It's been a long time since I built mine, and that 
area is one of many in the plans that require careful study, and sometimes, 
wild extrapolation.  Come to think of it, one of the things I'll do differently 
next time is butt the main spars up against each other to eliminate the gap 
between the spars, and the only way that could happen is if they are both the 
same width.   A bushing is then used through the 3/8" bolt locations (and 
epoxied into the wood), so you only have one 3/8" joint per pair of WAFS, 
rather than two, and it's quicker to disassemble, and less of a hole is needed 
on top of the wing.  I didn't invent this...I read it in one of the old 
newsletters.
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KR> KR G rating

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Does this calculation change if all your fuel is in the wings. I'm imagining 
the fuel being directly supported by the wing skin rather than forces acting 
through the spars, WAFs & stub to body joint as it would if you had fuel only 
behind the firewall. 

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Subject: KR> KR G rating
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Date: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 8:23 PM


Dan Heath wrote:

>>Would you not have to divide by the gross weight rather than the weight of
your KR.  At a gross weight of 1200 #, mine comes in at 4.66, as would any
KR at 1200, I suspect.<<

I'm sure Larry meant  "gross" weight.  He definitely knows how this works!

Mark Langford
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KR> KR progress report.

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Photos?

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Subject: KR> KR progress report.
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Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 10:11 AM


Hey Guys, Just put in another day of cowl shaping. Have I ever mentioned how 
much I have grown to hate sanding, be it shaping foam or the final cosmetic 
sanding ? But on a good note, It's looking pretty darn good this time around. 

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  
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KR> Cowling.

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

If you were Down Under I could help you out with one that looks like this 
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com.au/2011/04/kr2s-engine-cowl-2.html?m=1

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Hey Guys, Do you ever have one of those day's when you wonder why you even 
bothered to get out of bed ? Well today has been that way for me. I have been 
agonizing over how to make the cowling for weeks so yesterday I finally 
committed to a plan of action.I made a big foam block and mounted it on front 
of the o-200a , thinking that I would build the nose bowl first and this would 
be my starting point. Wrong...It looked like crap ! I am now ready to buy a 
nose bowl. I do like the looks of the Holy Cowl on the Lancair and the Cirrus. 
Has anybody stretched one of Williams over an o-200 ? Any suggestions ? I 
forgot to mention that I have already looked at most of the webb sites on the 
KRnet. I have even considered the nose bowl for a Thorpe T18 (MC-7 from A/C 
Spruce), Can you tell that desperation is setting in ?

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  
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KR> Trim tab installation

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Do you feel mounting the servo in the elevator would adversely affect mass 
balance and if mounted in the stab you would use less ballast near the tail? 

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KR> flying stories ?-kinda long

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

I too have an autopilot installed in my KR2S but not flown yet. It is based on 
Dynon D180, a control head (cumbersome to operate directly from the D180) and 2 
capstan type servos. Will grab some shots soon and post on my blog.
Paul.
Brisbane Australia.

 Dene Collett  wrote: 
Hi Joe
I would be very interested to see some pics of your autopilot installation.
I could be wrong but I think you might be the first to install an autopilot
in a KR.

KR> Toggle switches

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

the "(ON)" in brackets below indicates one side is momentary.

 da...@windstream.net wrote: 

=

Double Pole: S700-2-50 ON-ON-(ON)
Edit this product $19.50 Item Number: S700-2 
Configuration: -50

KR> Toggle switches

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 Dene Collett  wrote: 
=
I am looking for a double pole toggle switch that has three switch
positions. Up will be "on" for pole number 1. Down will be "on" for pole
number 2 and the centre position will be "on" for both pole 1 & 2.
_

Try this Dene ... 
http://au.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Switches/Toggle-Switches/_/N-5g2j?P=1z0z2xkZ1z0z2o3=dpdt+on+on+on=True

you are looking for a DPDT ON ON ON switch.
Paul, 
Brisbane Australia

KR> Trim Rings

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 Dave Dunwoodie wrote: 

=
Someone, somewhere knows of someone, somewhere, that can make nice cuts 
in plastic that will give the panel the final touches.  Just simple 
rings that can be glued to the CF and cover the rough edges in it is all 
that I'm trying to do.
_
Dave, 
If you check out my blog I did similar to you. I used those red fibre washers 
under the heads of black hex-headed screws. I think they look great.
I'm not at home but I think my blog is http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/
Look for the instrument panel pages.

Paul
Brisbane, Australia.

KR> FW: First Engine run!

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 Larry Flesner  wrote: 

What size is the prop extension?  I'm using a 5 inch on the 0-200 but 
yours looks more like  6 to 8 inch.

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KR> O-200 questoin

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

The sender unit that came with my Dynon was exactly the right fit, no reducer 
required. Check to find their sources.

Paul. (Brisbane, Australia)
=

rkp...@comcast.net wrote: 
I need the reducer for the sending unit. Anyone know where I can get one? 

KR> Trim Tab

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Thanks Mark.
Appreciate the feedback.
Paul.

KR> wiring ignition switch

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 rkp...@comcast.net wrote: 
The switch that I got calls for shielded wire,but doesn't say anything the 
gauge. 
=

Wire gauge selection is a function of current carrying capacity, voltage drop 
on longer runs and physical strength. Magneto P leads do not carry a great deal 
of current and are not concerned about voltage drop as you are grounding the 
primary of an ignition coil to render it inoperable. My selection therefore is 
more about physical strength (I don't want the wire failing and falling off). 
You could run 22g but I will be running 20g for a little extra strength.
Paul
Brisbane, Australia.

KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Jeff, I was told that this is natural on a new engine. The shiny new pistons 
and combustion chamber reflacts some of the heat into the culinder while shiny 
and new but once there is a carbon buildup (dull and black) more heat is 
absorbed into the heads. If you want to try an experiment take one head off, 
polish everything up and see if you get a split L to R.

Paul.

 Jeff York  wrote: 


Its strange because I do not remember having high oil temps problems the first 
50 hours or so of flying the plane. 

KR> Re: KR Gathering Forum

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Thanks Sid ... appreciated.


 smwood  wrote: 

++
After the Gathering I will post the presentation on my EAA Chapter web site.
The technology is steadily evolving.  Different sensors and displays are 
being put on the market.  Part numbers change.  So, periodic updates are 
needed to keep up with the latest and greatest.

Sid Wood

KR> KR Gathering Forum

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 smwood  wrote: 
I have further updates for the Mixture Meter forum from inputs obtained at 
AirVenture 10 and additional users.  Will tell all at the Gathering.
_

But what for those who will not be able to make it to the gathering?

Paul.

KR> Trailering

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

BE WARNED ... a trailer with an aft COG under brakes is potentially as 
dangerous as a tailwheel aircraft under brakes. The aft COG makes the trailer 
want to overtake the towing vehicle if braking from high speed. So many 
caravaners try to unload the drawbar of just load it wrong and the trailer 
overturns and sometimes takes the car with it. Hell of a way to wreck your day.
If loading an aircraft tail first ensure there is at least 25lb on the towing 
hitch to ensure this does not occurr.

Paul.,
Brisbane Australia.
 Larry Ragan  wrote: 

=

I've seen projects being trailered and a lot of the time they are being towed 
tail first.  Is there any special reason or advantage to doing it this way?

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KR> Divorce Result of Wing Attachment Fight

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hi Joe, I wes told that using 2 old office chairs with the backs removed works 
well. They are padded and height adjustable.
 Joe Walburn  wrote: 

=
 If someone has and EASY way 
to do it, you can save me a boatload of cash at the lawyer's office.

KR> Re: tubular wing tanks

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

If you did ... the technique for getting the PVC pipe out is as follows. To 
allow the glass to release over a long run first lay a single layer of light 
glass over the PVC and let it cure. Cut through this layer and move it around 
till it is released down the full length then reposition where you started. 
This is now ready for the final layers of glass for easy removal of the pipe. 
All you need to do now is fill in the ends. 
I'm going to use this technique for CF torque tubes.

Paul.

 Edward Spyker  wrote: 

=
Forgive me if this is an ignorant idea, but has anyone considered laying up 
fiberglass tube tanks using PVC pipe as a male mold?

KR> fuel burn vs Hp

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

so Based on my calcs, HP= G/h * 6 / BSFC or 7.8*6/.5= 93.6 Hp
BSFC for a low comp carby engine is ~ .5 @ max power ~.45 at max TQ.
@4.8 gph you are getting ~ 57.6 Hp

Paul.

 "joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com"  wrote: 

 -- fuel burn for first 1000 7.8 gph
 -- fuel burn was 4.8 gph 

KR> cowling

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Kris, the Q200 and the KR2 have vastly different firewalls but it is not 
outside the realm of possibility for a reasonably competent builder to adapt 
one to the other.
Having recently done something similar it shouldn't bee too hard as the KR has 
3 straight sides to match to the curvy Q200 cowl.
Paul.

=
Has anyone ever tried to put a Q200 cowl in a KR with an O-200?

KR> cowling

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hi Robert, I have modified an O-200 cowl for mine. If interested look at 
www.kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com for my work on ti.

Paul. (australia)

 rkp...@comcast.net wrote: 

 the cowling was made for a O-200 by Dan Deihl. Is there anyone still making 
that cowling, or was that just a one time thing? 

KR>Vacuum

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Most small Japanese diesel RVs have them. here is an example
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-Express-Pajero-Triton-4D56-Diesel-Alternator_W0QQitemZ280468920954QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item414d401a7a
Paul.

 Hall wrote: 
=
That sounds like an excellent idea any brands or ideas on suppliers?
=
 Paul wrote:
Has anyone thought of putting a combined alternator/Vac pump off a
diesel RV?

KR> (no subject)

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Hey Mark, I too need to add the antenna to a finished fin. Your thoughts on 
either sticking directly onto the leading edge and glassing or pushing a copper 
rod through the foam inside the fin?

Paul Smith
Brisbane Australia.

 Mark Langford  wrote: 

so I had to stick it on the front of the vertical stabilizer and add another of 
glass to 
keep it there.  

KR> Prop size for VW

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

I believe the FAA requires 7" with a critical tyre flat. So if you have a nose 
pusher you need to deflate the nose tyre and check the clearance.

Paul.

 Dan Heath  wrote: 

=
It is not the VW, it is the KR and how much clearance you have to the
ground.  I have heard that level, you should have 9", but I suppose that
with a nose gear, you could clear it with what makes you comfortable.  

-Original Message-
Does anyone know what the largest diameter prop a you can swing on a VW
would be? 



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KR> KR 2 Speed Brake

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Forgot to mention, mine is a Nose-pusher and has good ground clearance at the 
trailing edge.
If you have standard retracts there is minimal clearance here so a belly-board 
could be an option. There is a builder in England who built a spoiler system 
into the trailing edge of the stub wings with the hinge 1/2 way back along the 
flap. The forward half rotates upward, the aft down, allowing maximum plate 
area for minimal drop below the wing. If you need his link I have it.
Paul.

KR> KR 2 Speed Brake

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Franco,
I'm retrofitting split flaps into the stub wings attached to the afy spar. The 
original stub wings were built without flaps. I believe split flaps afford a 
small amount of lift (at lower deployment angles) but produce a good quantity 
of drag. See photos in my blog  http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/

Paul.
VH-KRZ (80% complete)
Brisbane, Australia

 Bucci  wrote: 

=
I need the help of  homebuilders of the comunity that can support me with 
informations and if possible drawings for an efficienty Speed Brake.

KR> Cleaning Brushes and Buying Peel Ply

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

 Kurt Clement  wrote: 

So here is a question: After laying up fiberglass I have tried to clean my 
brush, but I end up throwing it away because it just hardens from all the 
epoxy/resin. 

Hi Kurt, Easiest way I found is to have a bucket of acetone with a lid on it 
beside my work bench. I drop the brush in it BEFORE it starts to set and 
continue doing other things like laying peel ply on with a squeegie. When I'm 
finished I wash the brush around in the acetione and wipe dry with a rag. Next 
I rub in a generous quantity of citrus hand cleaner which rips through the 
residue. Wash up in water and leave to dry. Comes up like new every time. 

Paul.