KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-03 Thread Ed Janssen
I agree with Ron.  Our local EAA Chapter, in its December meeting, was faced 
with the decision on whether to disband the chapter or to trudge along as 
best we can ? we?re down to only 4 active members (from a high of 30 +) when 
the chapter first started up, some 15 years ago).  One of the members is 90 
yrs old and the other three are 65-72.  We?ve had some recent help from 
neighbors and friends when putting on our usual 6 breakfasts (May thru Oct.) 
per year at the airport.  We?re thankful for that, but it?s become a real 
chore with pressure on just a few guys.  And this was the worst year for 
breakfast attendance too.  Our average has been around 150 ? 200.  This year 
it was about 1/2 that, dropping our income by 72% which mostly have been 
used for scholarships .  I'm wondering how many other chapters are 
experiencing this dilemma?  In our area it could be argued that the onset of 
personal electronic gadgets (smart phones, tablets, etc.), the economy, 
insurance costs, and fuel prices are some of the factors that seem to be 
shifting at least the recreational interests away from G.A.  When have we 
seen youngsters building an airplane model, except for the 5 minute 
snap-together kind?  We have one non-member in our area building an RV-6A - 
the extent of our building activity.

At this point we've decided to continue with our breakfasts, cutting the 
number of events by one-half.  Hopefully we can come up with some ideas to 
attract some young people to keep things going.  One Wisconsin chapter holds 
an occasional "movie" night, providing free popcorn and an aviation related 
film.  Any ideas or suggestions (that really work) from other EAA chapters 
out there in "KR land" certainly are welcome.  We sometimes forget that we 
can borrow movies and other material from the EAA library.  It also may have 
some videos available to offer suggestions to chapter leaders to help 
generate more interest.

Ed Janssen



Hi Paul, as a Past President of EAA32 in St. Charles MO, you get out of an 
EAA Chapter what YOU put into it.  Things aren't fun;  change it!! 
Volunteer to put on a program..  Bring in parts from your project for "show 
and tell"..  Most members "want to be asked" to do something rather than 
standing up and volunteering..  Most Chapters have a lot of experience 
hiding in their membership roster;  just takes a little hunting to find out 
who they are and how to get them more involved..

Ron W








KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-03 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
Really depends on the chapter.  I am in an area where we have four
chapters withing easy driving distance and they all have their own
personalities.  One is old guys that tell old stories.  One is active
builders and pilots that do things.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
From: Ronald Wright 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, January 02, 2014 9:38 pm
To: KRnet 

Hi Paul, as a Past President of EAA32 in St. Charles MO, you get out of
an EAA Chapter what YOU put into it.  Things aren't fun;  change it!! 
Volunteer to put on a program..  Bring in parts from your project for
"show and tell"..  Most members "want to be asked" to do something
rather than standing up and volunteering..  Most Chapters have a lot of
experience hiding in their membership roster;  just takes a little
hunting to find out who they are and how to get them more involved..

Have fun and enjoy your building and the Chapter..

Ron W




 From: Robert7721 
To: KRnet  
Cc: KRnet  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter


Paul,

Don't worry, I am the only KR driver in my chapter but the RV guys are
fine. I kid them about how little my plane cost and how little fuel I
use compared the them, it's all good fun.

Rob Schmitt

On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:12 PM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com"  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of 
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. : ) 
> 
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> 618-406-4705
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-03 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury

 It was reported on this forum in the past " let the RVers know that 
you can do
 fiberglass work ",They will love you for that.
 Also I have heard that you need 4" prop clearance in a level 
position. Put
 your engine up high enough to get that figure, Virg


 On 1/3/2014 8:29 AM, Chris Kinnaman wrote:
> This is why I suggested checking around if there are more chapters 
> within a reasonable distance. When I moved to New Mexico, my boss told 
> me he was in two chapters and described one as "where the builders 
> are" and said more or less that the members of the other one had 
> finished building. I joined both. I saw that the one that was more of 
> a social club/gathering for Young Eagles rallies, pancake breakfasts 
> etc. gradually changed as new members came in, bringing their projects 
> with them. The chapter with the builders is now the chapter where the 
> building is in large part finished. The focus of a chapter is cyclical 
> and sometimes all it takes is a little nudge to change direction.
>
> Chris
>
> On 1/3/2014 5:23 AM, Robert Boyd wrote:
>> I thought I'd chime in on this one. I also am a past president of an EAA
>> chapter here in Ohio and found that it is true, you get out of it 
>> what you
>> put into it. However, I also have come to an opinion that EAA, or at 
>> least
>> a lot of its chapters, have become more AOPA. There is very little E in
>> most EAA chapters these days. At least that is what I have been 
>> finding and
>> is only my opinion. When trying to put some "E"-experimental, back into
>> our meetings it appeared that the majority of the members were not
>> interested and couldn't wait to get back on the subject of Young Eagles,
>> the next Pancake Breakfast or who is going to bring the buns to the next
>> meeting for the burgers. I know for fact there are several builders 
>> in my
>> chapter who never attend meetings for exactly that reason, there is 
>> no more
>> (E)experimental in the meetings.
>> OK enough of that, now does anyone have a tail wheel assembly for sale
>> cheap!!!
>> Bob
>> Frazeysburg Ohio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a 
>>> lot  of
>>> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there 
>>> missing. :
>>> )
>>>




KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Boyd
I thought I'd chime in on this one. I also am a past president of an EAA
chapter here in Ohio and found that it is true, you get out of it what you
put into it. However, I also have come to an opinion that EAA, or at least
a lot of its chapters, have become more AOPA. There is very little E in
most EAA chapters these days. At least that is what I have been finding and
is only my opinion. When trying to put some "E"-experimental,  back into
our meetings it appeared that the majority of the members were not
interested and couldn't wait to get back on the subject of Young Eagles,
the next Pancake Breakfast or who is going to bring the buns to the next
meeting for the burgers. I know for fact there are several builders in my
chapter who never attend meetings for exactly that reason, there is no more
(E)experimental in the meetings.
OK enough of that, now does anyone have a tail wheel assembly for sale
cheap!!!
Bob
Frazeysburg Ohio


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. :
> )
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-03 Thread Chris Kinnaman
This is why I suggested checking around if there are more chapters 
within a reasonable distance. When I moved to New Mexico, my boss told 
me he was in two chapters and described one as "where the builders are" 
and said more or less that the members of the other one had finished 
building. I joined both. I saw that the one that was more of a social 
club/gathering for Young Eagles rallies, pancake breakfasts etc. 
gradually changed as new members came in, bringing their projects with 
them. The chapter with the builders is now the chapter where the 
building is in large part finished. The focus of a chapter is cyclical 
and sometimes all it takes is a little nudge to change direction.

Chris

On 1/3/2014 5:23 AM, Robert Boyd wrote:
> I thought I'd chime in on this one. I also am a past president of an EAA
> chapter here in Ohio and found that it is true, you get out of it what you
> put into it. However, I also have come to an opinion that EAA, or at least
> a lot of its chapters, have become more AOPA. There is very little E in
> most EAA chapters these days. At least that is what I have been finding and
> is only my opinion. When trying to put some "E"-experimental,  back into
> our meetings it appeared that the majority of the members were not
> interested and couldn't wait to get back on the subject of Young Eagles,
> the next Pancake Breakfast or who is going to bring the buns to the next
> meeting for the burgers. I know for fact there are several builders in my
> chapter who never attend meetings for exactly that reason, there is no more
> (E)experimental in the meetings.
> OK enough of that, now does anyone have a tail wheel assembly for sale
> cheap!!!
> Bob
> Frazeysburg Ohio
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of
>> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. :
>> )
>>
>> Paul Visk
>> Belleville, Il.
>> 618-406-4705
>>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread Ronald Wright
Hi Paul, as a Past President of EAA32 in St. Charles MO, you get out of an EAA 
Chapter what YOU put into it.? Things aren't fun;? change it!!? Volunteer to 
put on a program..? Bring in parts from your project for "show and tell"..? 
Most members "want to be asked" to do something rather than standing up and 
volunteering..? Most Chapters have a lot of experience hiding in their 
membership roster;? just takes a little hunting to find out who they are and 
how to get them more involved..

Have fun and enjoy your building and the Chapter..

Ron W




 From: Robert7721 
To: KRnet  
Cc: KRnet  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter


Paul,

Don't worry, I am the only KR driver in my chapter but the RV guys are fine. I 
kid them about how little my plane cost and how little fuel I use compared the 
them, it's all good fun.

Rob Schmitt

On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:12 PM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com"  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot? of 
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. : ) 
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
> 
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I think pulling staples is pretty boring  job . I remember when I was in the 
Air Force as a  sheet metal mechanic. A  B-52G pilot accidentally put the flaps 
down when he was going much to fast. Me and three other airman had to  reskin 
the back sides of all the flaps. Now that was boring. 

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705








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From: "Chris Kinnaman" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:29 pm
Subject: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
To: "KRnet" 

I agree, been there, done that as a chapter president. We were fortunate 
to have a large chapter with many members who either could present 
something interesting or knew someone outside the chapter who would 
speak/demo etc.

If your chapter isn't filling your needs, chances are there are others 
who feel the same way. It may be time to inject some new blood into the 
leadership. This is your chance. It seems that if a new direction is 
begun, all kinds of things fall into place to support that direction. 
Maybe volunteer as a committee of one to provide some programs at 
meetings. When people find out you need a presenter, they seem to come 
out of nowhere to step up. You end up learning all kinds of useful 
things which may not be KR-specific, but still useful.

Another option is to look at any nearby chapters. There may be a chapter 
or two within reasonable distance which would be a better fit. If not, 
this list may be your best option for the time being to connect with 
like-minded builders.

Re: RV builders - that's what the majority of builders in my chapters 
were doing too. It's funny when they say things about the monotony of 
sanding a composite airframe, or endless rib stitches, etc. Personally, 
I can't think of anything that could possibly be more boring than 
drilling, deburring, and shooting rivets. I'm pretty sure that if you're 
a tube and fabric guy and you are evil, your fate in the eternal flames 
of Hell will be to build metal airplanes.

Chris


On 1/2/2014 5:53 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> This is a theme that I have heard often and seen myself in my home chapter.  
> Almost always the cause is a lack of effective leadership, which is a chronic 
> problem in most EAA Chapters.
>
> As of the new year, I am no longer an EAA Chapter president.  About 6 1/2 
> years ago, our chapter had boiled down to a few guys left that would sit 
> around and tell stories and occasionally fly Young Eagles. I took over when 
> our previous president was killed in an automobile accident.  I made a 
> commitment that every meeting would have a tech talk or demonstration and 
> that every meeting would be an opportunity to learn.  We also implemented 
> occasional Saturday workshops when the EAA Chapter would tear down an engine 
> (under my supervision) or spend a day hands on learning the basics of 
> welding, or riveting, or fabric work, or composite work.  While I was able to 
> get the chapter off it's deathbed, the largest criticism I received was 
> because the chapter was now catering to the homebuilders.  Wow!  You just 
> can't make everyone happy.
>
> I did find that it didn't take a lot of effort to find interesting speakers 
> or interesting topics.  You don't have to be an officer of the chapter to do 
> that.  I would bet that most EAA Chapters would love to have someone step up 
> to provide them with speakers or demonstrations for their meetings.  You 
> don't have to be the speaker.  On average, I was the guest speaker about once 
> a year.  Our Tech Counselor usually did once a year.  The rest were filled in 
> my simply asking people that were doing something interesting to come to the 
> meeting to talk about it.
>
> What I found is that if you make the meetings interesting, people will come.  
> Before long, the membership rolls are growing.
>
> Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> former president of EAA Chapter 691
>
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Phillip Hill
>> Sent: 01/02/14 05:17 PM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
>>
>> I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it. All they
>> seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs. There's no
>> time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
>> other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
>> what I was most interested in, so I never went back.
>>
>> Phill
>> Collinsville, IL
>>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread Jeff Scott
This is a theme that I have heard often and seen myself in my home chapter. 
?Almost always the cause is a lack of effective leadership, which is a chronic 
problem in most EAA Chapters. ?

As of the new year, I am no longer an EAA Chapter president. ?About 6 1/2 years 
ago, our chapter had boiled down to a few guys left that would sit around and 
tell stories and occasionally fly Young Eagles. I took over when our previous 
president was killed in an automobile accident. ?I made a commitment that every 
meeting would have a tech talk or demonstration and that every meeting would be 
an opportunity to learn. ?We also implemented occasional Saturday workshops 
when the EAA Chapter would tear down an engine (under my supervision) or spend 
a day hands on learning the basics of welding, or riveting, or fabric work, or 
composite work. ?While I was able to get the chapter off it's deathbed, the 
largest criticism I received was because the chapter was now catering to the 
homebuilders. ?Wow! ?You just can't make everyone happy.

I did find that it didn't take a lot of effort to find interesting speakers or 
interesting topics. ?You don't have to be an officer of the chapter to do that. 
?I would bet that most EAA Chapters would love to have someone step up to 
provide them with speakers or demonstrations for their meetings. ?You don't 
have to be the speaker. ?On average, I was the guest speaker about once a year. 
?Our Tech Counselor usually did once a year. ?The rest were filled in my simply 
asking people that were doing something interesting to come to the meeting to 
talk about it.

What I found is that if you make the meetings interesting, people will come. 
?Before long, the membership rolls are growing.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
former president of EAA Chapter 691



> - Original Message -
> From: Phillip Hill
> Sent: 01/02/14 05:17 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
> 
> I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it. All they
> seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs. There's no
> time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
> other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
> what I was most interested in, so I never went back.
> 
> Phill
> Collinsville, IL
> 




KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I hate auto spell check. I come up with some doozies I catch most of them 
before I sent.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406- 4705


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From: "ppaulvsk at aol.com" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:14 pm
Subject: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
To: "Phillip Hill" , "KRnet" 

I went to the Nov. Meeting and met  Paul (president).  They was a good meeting. 
I brought my center sparse to see if someone could look at them before I closed 
it out.  Someone asked why it wasn't solid.  That was a good question.  I don't 
know. Maybe it would be too heavy.  But, if Ken designed it as a solid spar it 
could have been smaller with the same strength. I don't know.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705

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From: "Phillip Hill" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 6:17 pm
Subject: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
To: "KRnet" 

I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it.  All they
seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs.  There's no
time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
what I was most interested in, so I never went back.

Phill
Collinsville, IL



On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. :
> )
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I went to the Nov. Meeting and met  Paul (president).  They was a good meeting. 
I brought my center sparse to see if someone could look at them before I closed 
it out.  Someone asked why it wasn't solid.  That was a good question.  I don't 
know. Maybe it would be too heavy.  But, if Ken designed it as a solid spar it 
could have been smaller with the same strength. I don't know.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705

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From: "Phillip Hill" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 6:17 pm
Subject: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
To: "KRnet" 

I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it.  All they
seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs.  There's no
time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
what I was most interested in, so I never went back.

Phill
Collinsville, IL



On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. :
> )
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread Robert7721
Paul,

Don't worry, I am the only KR driver in my chapter but the RV guys are fine. I 
kid them about how little my plane cost and how little fuel I use compared the 
them, it's all good fun.

Rob Schmitt

On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:12 PM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com"  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of 
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. : ) 
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
> 
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Kinnaman
I agree, been there, done that as a chapter president. We were fortunate 
to have a large chapter with many members who either could present 
something interesting or knew someone outside the chapter who would 
speak/demo etc.

If your chapter isn't filling your needs, chances are there are others 
who feel the same way. It may be time to inject some new blood into the 
leadership. This is your chance. It seems that if a new direction is 
begun, all kinds of things fall into place to support that direction. 
Maybe volunteer as a committee of one to provide some programs at 
meetings. When people find out you need a presenter, they seem to come 
out of nowhere to step up. You end up learning all kinds of useful 
things which may not be KR-specific, but still useful.

Another option is to look at any nearby chapters. There may be a chapter 
or two within reasonable distance which would be a better fit. If not, 
this list may be your best option for the time being to connect with 
like-minded builders.

Re: RV builders - that's what the majority of builders in my chapters 
were doing too. It's funny when they say things about the monotony of 
sanding a composite airframe, or endless rib stitches, etc. Personally, 
I can't think of anything that could possibly be more boring than 
drilling, deburring, and shooting rivets. I'm pretty sure that if you're 
a tube and fabric guy and you are evil, your fate in the eternal flames 
of Hell will be to build metal airplanes.

Chris


On 1/2/2014 5:53 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> This is a theme that I have heard often and seen myself in my home chapter.  
> Almost always the cause is a lack of effective leadership, which is a chronic 
> problem in most EAA Chapters.
>
> As of the new year, I am no longer an EAA Chapter president.  About 6 1/2 
> years ago, our chapter had boiled down to a few guys left that would sit 
> around and tell stories and occasionally fly Young Eagles. I took over when 
> our previous president was killed in an automobile accident.  I made a 
> commitment that every meeting would have a tech talk or demonstration and 
> that every meeting would be an opportunity to learn.  We also implemented 
> occasional Saturday workshops when the EAA Chapter would tear down an engine 
> (under my supervision) or spend a day hands on learning the basics of 
> welding, or riveting, or fabric work, or composite work.  While I was able to 
> get the chapter off it's deathbed, the largest criticism I received was 
> because the chapter was now catering to the homebuilders.  Wow!  You just 
> can't make everyone happy.
>
> I did find that it didn't take a lot of effort to find interesting speakers 
> or interesting topics.  You don't have to be an officer of the chapter to do 
> that.  I would bet that most EAA Chapters would love to have someone step up 
> to provide them with speakers or demonstrations for their meetings.  You 
> don't have to be the speaker.  On average, I was the guest speaker about once 
> a year.  Our Tech Counselor usually did once a year.  The rest were filled in 
> my simply asking people that were doing something interesting to come to the 
> meeting to talk about it.
>
> What I found is that if you make the meetings interesting, people will come.  
> Before long, the membership rolls are growing.
>
> Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> former president of EAA Chapter 691
>
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Phillip Hill
>> Sent: 01/02/14 05:17 PM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: Re: KR> I joined my local EAA chapter
>>
>> I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it. All they
>> seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs. There's no
>> time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
>> other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
>> what I was most interested in, so I never went back.
>>
>> Phill
>> Collinsville, IL
>>
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread Phillip Hill
I used to belong to chapter 64 but didn't get anything out of it.  All they
seemed to do is promote young eagles, and other EAA programs.  There's no
time spent talking about building anything, no demos, no presentations from
other builders, no KR builders and no one who had ever seen one, which is
what I was most interested in, so I never went back.

Phill
Collinsville, IL



On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  wrote:

> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of
> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. :
> )
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il.
> 618-406-4705
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

2014-01-02 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a lot  of RVer. 
People can be so lost and confused and not know what there missing. : ) 

Paul Visk
Belleville, Il.
618-406-4705

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