KR> Starter replacement

[Jeff Scott]

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Sent:?Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 6:35 PM
From:?"Robert Pesak via KRnet" 
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Cc:?"Robert Pesak" 
Subject:?KR> Starter replacement

I have replaced my starter on my engine with only 74 hours. The clutch Drive 
Unit started to go bad I didn't want to take any chances and what they wanted 
for the rebuild that unit I bought a new skytec starter. The reason I went with 
a skytech is just what Jeff had mentioned I didn't want to go through the 
trouble of plugging that barring hole with the skytec starter you don't have 
?to plug the bearing hole.

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Just as a point of clarification, the old key start type starters had a bearing 
mounted inside the case that had to be removed to install most other starter 
replacements.  Sometimes in the process of pulling that bearing, the bearing 
needles can escape.  I've seen the needle get sucked up into the oil pump and 
trash the accessory case.  Skytech has a starter model that has a nose piece 
that fits into the bearing, so you don't have to remove it.

The even older Delco starters (like I had), identified by the pull cable to 
engage the starter has the starter pinion gear riding on a shaft that is 
clamped between the two case halves.  To install any other type of replacement 
starter, you have to go into the back of the accessory case with a die grinder 
and cut off the 1/2" steel pinion shaft.  It throws a lot of abrasive 
contaminants and metal throughout the accessory case in the process, so it 
takes a lot of careful cleaning before you decide to fill the sump with oil and 
fire it up again.  The screen and filter will capture the contaminants, but the 
oil pump is susceptible to damage if it ingests this stuff.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> Starter replacement

[Robert Pesak]

I have replaced my starter on my engine with only 74 hours. The clutch Drive 
Unit started to go bad I didn't want to take any chances and what they wanted 
for the rebuild that unit I bought a new skytec starter. The reason I went with 
a skytech is just what Jeff had mentioned I didn't want to go through the 
trouble of plugging that barring hole with the skytec starter you don't have 
?to plug the bearing hole.


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KR> Starter - Important note....

[Dave_A]

There are 2 versions of the Diehl case out there

The older one does NOT use a Subaru auto starter, but rather as Rotax 
2-stroke (Skidoo/Seadoo) starter...

On 6/30/2014 6:00 PM, Clayton via KRnet wrote:
> Thank you all for the input.
> I did not get an answer at Diehl.
> James, you are correct. It is a 1992 Subaru Legacy non turbo automatic
> starter.
> It sure is nice to hear that engine run again, it has been quite some time.
> Clayton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of James 
> Babcock
> via KRnet
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 12:37 PM
> To: smwood; KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Starter
>
> Call Dan Diehl. If I recall, it was a Subaru part.
>
>
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KR> Starter

[Clayton]

Thank you all for the input.
I did not get an answer at Diehl.
James, you are correct. It is a 1992 Subaru Legacy non turbo automatic
starter.
It sure is nice to hear that engine run again, it has been quite some time.
Clayton 

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of James Babcock
via KRnet
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 12:37 PM
To: smwood; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Starter

Call Dan Diehl. If I recall, it was a Subaru part. 

KR> Starter

[Russell Barnett]

The starter I put on my diehl acc case was a O'Riley P/N 16696  I believe it 
was from
a toyota or something like that.  cost on july 2012 was list $135.58  Net $79.99
hope this helps. 
Russ Barnett
N8227


-Original Message-
>From: Clayton via KRnet 
>Sent: Jun 30, 2014 10:49 AM
>To: 'KRnet' 
>Subject: KR> Starter
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I have searched the archives and maybe I am just missing it?.., does anyone
>know of an aftermarket starter ( one I can get at an auto parts store ) that
>will fit a Diehl case? 
>
>If so, a part number? Make and model? 
>
>Thank you,
>
>Clayton 
>
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KR> Starter

[smwood]

I bought my starter from Great Plains http://www.greatplainsas.com but don't 
see it in their catalog now.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smwood at md.metrocast.net
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> I have searched the archives and maybe I am just missing it?.., does 
> anyone
> know of an aftermarket starter ( one I can get at an auto parts store ) 
> that
> will fit a Diehl case?
>
> If so, a part number? Make and model?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Clayton
>

KR> Starter

[James Babcock]

Call Dan Diehl. If I recall, it was a Subaru part. 



> On Jun 30, 2014, at 12:29 PM, "smwood via KRnet"  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought my starter from Great Plains http://www.greatplainsas.com but don't 
> see it in their catalog now.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> smwood at md.metrocast.net
> --
>> I have searched the archives and maybe I am just missing it?.., does anyone
>> know of an aftermarket starter ( one I can get at an auto parts store ) that
>> will fit a Diehl case?
>> 
>> If so, a part number? Make and model?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Clayton
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?

[Bill Hucker]

I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a standard starter that fits the
Diehl Accy. case? (1835cc VW Great Plains engine.)

I know they are available from Great Plains or Diehl, but pricy, would there
be a rebuilt one from an auto parts store or on-line? I tried a standard VW
Bug starter but it wouldn't fit. I also tried looking up the KR archives but
nothing jumped out at me. Thanks!

Bill Hucker 
KR2- N7142G

KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?

[James Babcock]

I'm going on my sometimes faulty memory here, but it seems like Dan used a 
geared starter off a Subaru from the late 80's.  I wish I knew more 
specifics, but maybe somebody else can add details.


>From: "Bill Hucker" <huc...@citlink.net>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:50:32 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
>
>I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a standard starter that fits 
>the
>Diehl Accy. case? (1835cc VW Great Plains engine.)
>
>I know they are available from Great Plains or Diehl, but pricy, would 
>there
>be a rebuilt one from an auto parts store or on-line? I tried a standard VW
>Bug starter but it wouldn't fit. I also tried looking up the KR archives 
>but
>nothing jumped out at me. Thanks!
>
>Bill Hucker
>KR2- N7142G
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KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?

[Dan Heath]

Seems like Dan Diehl would be the best person to ask.  d...@diehlaero.com

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From: James Babcock
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 04/29/07 19:49:13
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?

I'm going on my sometimes faulty memory here, but it seems like Dan used a
geared starter off a Subaru from the late 80's.  I wish I knew more
specifics, but maybe somebody else can add details.


>From: "Bill Hucker" <huc...@citlink.net>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: KR> Starter to fit Diehl case?
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:50:32 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
>
>I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a standard starter that fits
>the
>Diehl Accy. case? (1835cc VW Great Plains engine.)
>
>I know they are available from Great Plains or Diehl, but pricy, would
>there
>be a rebuilt one from an auto parts store or on-line? I tried a standard VW
>Bug starter but it wouldn't fit. I also tried looking up the KR archives
>but
>nothing jumped out at me. Thanks!
>
>Bill Hucker
>KR2- N7142G
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KR> starter help

[Lee Van Dyke]

Group,   

I have an old hapi revmaster, and the starter needs some work.  I have tried 
talking to a few starter places and they can see the starter listed in the 
bosch book.  The part i need is the front bushing, does anybody have an idea 
how to get a parts list for bosch starter motors?  I have tried the web site 
for bosch, and cant seem to fine what i need.

Lee Van Dyke
Mesa AZ
l...@vandyke5.com

KR> starter help

[Glasseyegav]

I think if you ask any of the good auto electricians, they will have a box
full of cintered bronze bushes all sizes. You'll find one to fit easily, I
wouldn't think it would have to be a special part number for your starter.

Gav




- hapi revmaster, and the starter needs some work.  I have tried talking
to a few starter places and they can see the starter listed in the bosch
book.  The part i need is the front bushing,

KR> starter help

[Mac McConnell-Wood]

Hi Lee,I had this problem with my Revmaster and on the advice of one of 
our oldest and most revered gurus, I ditched the Bosch and found a Subaru 
starter in my local scrap yard,-cost about $35 in your money as I recall.  
It has its own solenoid incorporated and is much better engineered(needle 
bearings as opposed to p/bronze bush etc). You need to make a 1/4" ally 
adapter plate,but the result is worth the effort.(Thanks Dan!)
Regards,Mac   G-BVZJ   UK
 macw...@hotmail.co.uk   
>From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com>
>
>Subject: KR> starter help
>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:31:26 -0700
>
>Group,
>
>I have an old hapi revmaster, and the starter needs some work.  I have 
>tried talking to a few  i need.
>
>Lee Van Dyke
>Mesa AZ
>l...@vandyke5.com
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KR> starter help

[Brian Kraut]

If all else fails take the bushing to your local bearing shop and see if
they have one that will work.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of Lee Van Dyke
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:31 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> starter help


Group,

I have an old hapi revmaster, and the starter needs some work.  I have tried
talking to a few starter places and they can see the starter listed in the
bosch book.  The part i need is the front bushing, does anybody have an idea
how to get a parts list for bosch starter motors?  I have tried the web site
for bosch, and cant seem to fine what i need.

Lee Van Dyke
Mesa AZ
l...@vandyke5.com
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KR> starter help

[Scott Cable]

Lee,
There were several VW shops out there in Phoenix/Mesa area, check with them.  
They almost always recommend replacing the bushing whenever you replace the 
starter  I wouldn't doubt if it's the same bushing.

Lee Van Dyke  wrote:
Group, 

I have an old hapi revmaster, and the starter needs some work. I have tried 
talking to a few starter places and they can see the starter listed in the 
bosch book. The part i need is the front bushing, does anybody have an idea how 
to get a parts list for bosch starter motors? I have tried the web site for 
bosch, and cant seem to fine what i need.

Lee Van Dyke
Mesa AZ
l...@vandyke5.com
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Scott Cable
KR-2S # 735
Wright City, MO
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KR> Starter Rotation

[Pat Driscoll]

I was thinking about my last post about turning the stator winding around to 
get the motor to turn the opposite direction. I hope no one busted wires loose 
trying it. I remembered that the motor I was working with had identical end 
bolt patterns with the gearcase on one end. I reversed the ends and the motor 
ran the opposite direction
Pat Driscoll
patric...@usfamily.net
Saint Paul, MN


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