KR> flying trip
Good Morning Guys, I had a great trip from KUKT to KJYM this weekend to visit Brother Roy of the Szarafinski clan. I left for MI. about 12:30pm and arrived at about 4:15 pm fighting a pretty good head wind all the way of 20 to 25 mph. flew most of the way between 6500 and 8500 but climbed to 10500 to cross Lake Erie. The trip home was much more to my liking yesterday afternoon. With tail winds of about 20 mph I climbed out of KJYM to 11500 over the lake and continued at that altitude until decent about 85 miles out of home. The flight was 490 miles each way and I burned 17.5 gals out and about 12 gals back. True airspeed was kept right at 165 mph and ground speed was roughly 135 out and 190 back. If my math is close it works out to right around 35 miles to the gallon for the trip. I fattened the log book by a little over 6 hours. ?? I had a good time with Roy and certainly had my horizons broadened. Roy is doing some interesting work that shows some great promise for the future. He also introduced me to one of his local friends that is into drag racing and the like. It is truly incredible what can be found in someones local shop or in this case on what looks like just the average little farmette. This guy has the skunk works of the street rod world hidden in his shop with a real world mixture of creativity, art and science being built into several old cars. Great fun and education. Joe Horton
KR> nice trip
? What a great time? This is the moment I dreamed about for eight years, flying with other KR's.Thanks Mark and Larry.
KR> Chino trip
Hey Guys, I had planned to write up a bit of a story and include a few pictures of the trip of a life time for me but I had a computer melt down at the very moment that I was down loading the picture card and I lost over 300 pictures from the time we left LosAlmos until I got home. I'm very unhappy with this to say the least. Joe Horton 2014 Best Skin Tighteners A Review List of The Top Performing Skin Tighteners In 2014 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543992f12ca1d12f12c50st04duc
KR> Chino trip
Ouch! That sucks. > On Oct 11, 2014, at 3:27 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet list.krnet.org> wrote: > > Hey Guys, > I had planned to write up a bit of a story and include a few pictures of > the trip of a life time for me but I had a computer melt down at the very > moment that I was down loading the picture card and I lost over 300 pictures > from the time we left LosAlmos until I got home. I'm very unhappy with this > to say the least. > Joe Horton > > 2014 Best Skin Tighteners > A Review List of The Top Performing Skin Tighteners In 2014 > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543992f12ca1d12f12c50st04duc > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Chino Trip Video
Cool video Rob. For some reason I didn't remember you were taking photos in the Cub. This was one of the most fun trips I've ever taken in my plane. That's mostly credited to flying with a great bunch of guys. It was a blast. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM > KR Net, > > I managed to finally download photos from last weekend's trip to Chino CA. I > put together a short 6 minute video from these. These are posted to my web > site at www.robert7721.com . The file size is about 75 MB so I recommend you > right click and download the file 1st, then run it on your computer. I stole > a couple photos from Jeff Scott I really loved as well to add to the > collection - thanks Jeff! The video starts out with some photos from my > flight in the back seat of Jeff's Super Cub over Las Alamos. Then some > photos of our KRs traveling over the mountains. Both meteor crater and > Mormon Lake are in a few of the flying photos. Then several photos at Chino > as well. > > Enjoy! > > Rob Schmitt > N1852Z > www.robert7721.com >
KR> Chino Trip Video
KR Net, I managed to finally download photos from last weekend's trip to Chino CA. I put together a short 6 minute video from these. These are posted to my web site at www.robert7721.com . The file size is about 75 MB so I recommend you right click and download the file 1st, then run it on your computer. I stole a couple photos from Jeff Scott I really loved as well to add to the collection - thanks Jeff! The video starts out with some photos from my flight in the back seat of Jeff's Super Cub over Las Alamos. Then some photos of our KRs traveling over the mountains. Both meteor crater and Mormon Lake are in a few of the flying photos. Then several photos at Chino as well. Enjoy! Rob Schmitt N1852Z www.robert7721.com
KR> Nashville trip
Well, Another business trip...my summer is gonna be a busy one and this Colt is still eating up most my free time. I need an infusion of KR I am headed to Nashville next week. Anybody close that wants to show off their stuff. Craig
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
Very nice Dan! I have been keeping an eye on this little bird for some time, it looks like a really good machine. Wayne -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: February-12-14 10:31 AM To: 'KRnet' Subject: Re: KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story. Fools that they are. LOL... My Panther Building Documentation at <http://pantherbuilder.org/> PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC But you are OK and will fly again. I know it sucks not being able to fly the plane you love so much. I have been there a few times now with my KR in the trees, my Clipper blown into our glider club trailer by a microburst or small tornado, my Pacer ground looped by a friend, and a prop strike causing a three week engine rebuild. Can't keep me down and won't keep you down either. And for some reason AIG keeps selling me insurance at a good rate. Original Message Subject: KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story. From: "Dan Heath" < <mailto:danrh at windstream.net> danrh at windstream.net> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, February 11, 2014 4:13 pm To: "'KRnet'" < <mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> krnet at list.krnet.org> I realize that a lot of time has passed since the Gathering last October. I have planned on writing about the trip, but could not either bring myself to do it, or did not think about doing so when I had the time. After having worked diligently for almost a year, building and installing wing tanks, removing the header tank, and installing my new Corvair engine, in 2012, I was ready to head to the Gathering that year only to be sorely disappointed by the onset of bad weather. Then arriving at Mt. Vernon, to find that the weather was great for the duration, I was determined to make the 2013 event. But, not being able to help myself, I decided to install a new instrument panel, which resulted in a complete re-wiring of the aircraft. I was able to complete the task several weeks before Gathering time and just in time to go to Camden to get my new Dynon Mode S transponder, certified. However, on the trip back to CUB from Camden, I bounced and landed a little too much nose down, which unknown to me at the time, caused the prop tip to strike and severely damaged the prop. In an almost panic, I cried out to the KR Family for help and it was not long before help arrived in the form of a Sterba prop from Mark Langford. I could not install the spinner, so had to fly to the Gathering without one. The important thing is that it got me and the Black Bird to the annual celebration. I departed CUB at about 10 am on Thursday morning, intending to fly on auto pilot at 8500 ft, under ATC control. So, right after takeoff, I contacted CAE and was set in the system and proceeded to climb to 8500. While climbing, I tried to activate the Autopilot, which tested perfectly on the ground, but it would not acquire. I kept getting an error on one of the servos, so accepted the fact that I would be doing all the flying. The flight was un-eventful as I was passed from station to station on the route to MVN. Not long after I started flying over the Smokey Mountains, I began to encounter scattered clouds and did not want to get stuck below them, so called for permission to climb to clear the clouds and permission was granted to climb and remain VFR. This was repeated several times as I got closer to the mountain range peak, which on my route was 6000 ft. I began to see towering clouds in the distance and could tell that they were thunder storms as confirmed by my Dynon Skyview. It was so cool to watch the two towers grow, one taller than the other, until the tall one began to break up at the top and the other stopped growing These towers were 2 or 3 thousand feet apart, and I had my sight set on flying between them. I knew that once I cleared those, I would be heading down the other side of the mountain range into the valley to my fuel stop. I had been climbing for quite some time as I was almost mesmerized by the cloud cover and the two towers that I was about to travel between. I could not help thinking about what was happening and how impossible it might seem to some who had never experienced such an adventure. It was almost like I was not there, like I was outside of myself, watching a guy who built a box with wings on it, flying between two towering clouds, a lot like I had experienced when travelling in an airline. But it was me inside that box and as I was about to cross over the peak and head down the other side to Upper Cumberland Regional Airport in Tennessee, when I happened to notice that the Black Bird's Corvair engine had taken us to almost 14,000 feet. I then realized that I had been over 10,000 for some time now and began to check my physical condition to be sure that I was not suffering from any delusion
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
Well, you fared better than I did. Glad you were OK. Dan Heath wrote: > I am not sure why the engine quit, but I have a guess at it. I went around > several times trying to land and after having had the engine quit, at > another time, when on a lean setting and giving throttle to go around, I > realized that I should have had it on rich to be pushing in the throttle > quickly. So, on my first approach, I put the mixture to rich, and left it > there. I think that by pulling back to idle on each attempt with the > mixture rich, the plugs had loaded up, so when the airspeed got really low > upon getting the wheels on the ground, there was not enough air passing over > the prop to keep it running at that low throttle setting and the plugs had > probably loaded up with too much lead. I won't make that mistake again. I > often wonder, how many mistakes is a person allowed before it is all over? > > Given the high winds, I could have landed under power at around 100 mph > airspeed and still touched down under 80 ground speed and been perfectly > safe. I think physical exhaustion played a part in it, having not gotten > much rest for two days and then making the long trip. I was worn out. > There is a lot to this flying thing that we don't always think about. I > hope I live long enough, I am over 70, to get it figured out. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics? > > Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > > Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC > > > > -Original Message- > > Were you able to figure out why your engine quit? > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
I am not sure why the engine quit, but I have a guess at it. I went around several times trying to land and after having had the engine quit, at another time, when on a lean setting and giving throttle to go around, I realized that I should have had it on rich to be pushing in the throttle quickly. So, on my first approach, I put the mixture to rich, and left it there. I think that by pulling back to idle on each attempt with the mixture rich, the plugs had loaded up, so when the airspeed got really low upon getting the wheels on the ground, there was not enough air passing over the prop to keep it running at that low throttle setting and the plugs had probably loaded up with too much lead. I won't make that mistake again. I often wonder, how many mistakes is a person allowed before it is all over? Given the high winds, I could have landed under power at around 100 mph airspeed and still touched down under 80 ground speed and been perfectly safe. I think physical exhaustion played a part in it, having not gotten much rest for two days and then making the long trip. I was worn out. There is a lot to this flying thing that we don't always think about. I hope I live long enough, I am over 70, to get it figured out. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics? Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC -Original Message- Were you able to figure out why your engine quit?
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
Great job I'm deleting the long previous story. It is KR net etiquette if you are to reply to delete the prior message just respond. Congratulations to you. Some others need to remember this rule Lee Van Dyke > On Feb 12, 2014, at 2:37 PM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com" > wrote: > > I'm Sorry to hear about your plane. I can't imagine how you feel
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
I seem to remember that you had an Ellison. None of the throttle body carbs have accelerator pumps. Neither do the Zenith carbs that Great Plains sells for the VW or some of the other varieties that we use on VWs and Vairs. You must always remember on a carb without an accelerator pump that you need to apply the throttle no faster than a few seconds from idle to full throttle. Try it on the ground and get a feel for how fast you can shove the throttle in before you panic and do it in the air. Original Message Subject: Re: KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story. From: "Dan Heath" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wed, February 12, 2014 2:53 pm To: "'KRnet'" I am not sure why the engine quit, but I have a guess at it. I went around several times trying to land and after having had the engine quit, at another time, when on a lean setting and giving throttle to go around, I realized that I should have had it on rich to be pushing in the throttle quickly. So, on my first approach, I put the mixture to rich, and left it there. I think that by pulling back to idle on each attempt with the mixture rich, the plugs had loaded up, so when the airspeed got really low upon getting the wheels on the ground, there was not enough air passing over the prop to keep it running at that low throttle setting and the plugs had probably loaded up with too much lead. I won't make that mistake again. I often wonder, how many mistakes is a person allowed before it is all over? Given the high winds, I could have landed under power at around 100 mph airspeed and still touched down under 80 ground speed and been perfectly safe. I think physical exhaustion played a part in it, having not gotten much rest for two days and then making the long trip. I was worn out. There is a lot to this flying thing that we don't always think about. I hope I live long enough, I am over 70, to get it figured out. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- Were you able to figure out why your engine quit? ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
I'm Sorry to hear about your plane. I can't imagine how you feel after putting all that work into the glass panel. Were you able to figure out why your engine quit? Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705 Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
Fools that they are. LOL... My Panther Building Documentation at <http://pantherbuilder.org/> PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC But you are OK and will fly again. I know it sucks not being able to fly the plane you love so much. I have been there a few times now with my KR in the trees, my Clipper blown into our glider club trailer by a microburst or small tornado, my Pacer ground looped by a friend, and a prop strike causing a three week engine rebuild. Can't keep me down and won't keep you down either. And for some reason AIG keeps selling me insurance at a good rate. Original Message Subject: KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story. From: "Dan Heath" < <mailto:danrh at windstream.net> danrh at windstream.net> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, February 11, 2014 4:13 pm To: "'KRnet'" < <mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> krnet at list.krnet.org> I realize that a lot of time has passed since the Gathering last October. I have planned on writing about the trip, but could not either bring myself to do it, or did not think about doing so when I had the time. After having worked diligently for almost a year, building and installing wing tanks, removing the header tank, and installing my new Corvair engine, in 2012, I was ready to head to the Gathering that year only to be sorely disappointed by the onset of bad weather. Then arriving at Mt. Vernon, to find that the weather was great for the duration, I was determined to make the 2013 event. But, not being able to help myself, I decided to install a new instrument panel, which resulted in a complete re-wiring of the aircraft. I was able to complete the task several weeks before Gathering time and just in time to go to Camden to get my new Dynon Mode S transponder, certified. However, on the trip back to CUB from Camden, I bounced and landed a little too much nose down, which unknown to me at the time, caused the prop tip to strike and severely damaged the prop. In an almost panic, I cried out to the KR Family for help and it was not long before help arrived in the form of a Sterba prop from Mark Langford. I could not install the spinner, so had to fly to the Gathering without one. The important thing is that it got me and the Black Bird to the annual celebration. I departed CUB at about 10 am on Thursday morning, intending to fly on auto pilot at 8500 ft, under ATC control. So, right after takeoff, I contacted CAE and was set in the system and proceeded to climb to 8500. While climbing, I tried to activate the Autopilot, which tested perfectly on the ground, but it would not acquire. I kept getting an error on one of the servos, so accepted the fact that I would be doing all the flying. The flight was un-eventful as I was passed from station to station on the route to MVN. Not long after I started flying over the Smokey Mountains, I began to encounter scattered clouds and did not want to get stuck below them, so called for permission to climb to clear the clouds and permission was granted to climb and remain VFR. This was repeated several times as I got closer to the mountain range peak, which on my route was 6000 ft. I began to see towering clouds in the distance and could tell that they were thunder storms as confirmed by my Dynon Skyview. It was so cool to watch the two towers grow, one taller than the other, until the tall one began to break up at the top and the other stopped growing These towers were 2 or 3 thousand feet apart, and I had my sight set on flying between them. I knew that once I cleared those, I would be heading down the other side of the mountain range into the valley to my fuel stop. I had been climbing for quite some time as I was almost mesmerized by the cloud cover and the two towers that I was about to travel between. I could not help thinking about what was happening and how impossible it might seem to some who had never experienced such an adventure. It was almost like I was not there, like I was outside of myself, watching a guy who built a box with wings on it, flying between two towering clouds, a lot like I had experienced when travelling in an airline. But it was me inside that box and as I was about to cross over the peak and head down the other side to Upper Cumberland Regional Airport in Tennessee, when I happened to notice that the Black Bird's Corvair engine had taken us to almost 14,000 feet. I then realized that I had been over 10,000 for some time now and began to check my physical condition to be sure that I was not suffering from any delusions. I seemed OK, but knew that I had to get down soon, so pointed the nose down, pulled the power a bit and cruised to the airport, calling ATC that I was descending to my destination, or something like that. While on the ground, I received a phone call from my friend James Clark, who had been following me via my Mode S trans
KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story.
But you are OK and will fly again. I know it sucks not being able to fly the plane you love so much. I have been there a few times now with my KR in the trees, my Clipper blown into our glider club trailer by a microburst or small tornado, my Pacer ground looped by a friend, and a prop strike causing a three week engine rebuild. Can't keep me down and won't keep you down either. And for some reason AIG keeps selling me insurance at a good rate. Original Message Subject: KR> 2013 KR Gathering Trip - Very Long Story. From: "Dan Heath" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, February 11, 2014 4:13 pm To: "'KRnet'" I realize that a lot of time has passed since the Gathering last October. I have planned on writing about the trip, but could not either bring myself to do it, or did not think about doing so when I had the time. After having worked diligently for almost a year, building and installing wing tanks, removing the header tank, and installing my new Corvair engine, in 2012, I was ready to head to the Gathering that year only to be sorely disappointed by the onset of bad weather. Then arriving at Mt. Vernon, to find that the weather was great for the duration, I was determined to make the 2013 event. But, not being able to help myself, I decided to install a new instrument panel, which resulted in a complete re-wiring of the aircraft. I was able to complete the task several weeks before Gathering time and just in time to go to Camden to get my new Dynon Mode S transponder, certified. However, on the trip back to CUB from Camden, I bounced and landed a little too much nose down, which unknown to me at the time, caused the prop tip to strike and severely damaged the prop. In an almost panic, I cried out to the KR Family for help and it was not long before help arrived in the form of a Sterba prop from Mark Langford. I could not install the spinner, so had to fly to the Gathering without one. The important thing is that it got me and the Black Bird to the annual celebration. I departed CUB at about 10 am on Thursday morning, intending to fly on auto pilot at 8500 ft, under ATC control. So, right after takeoff, I contacted CAE and was set in the system and proceeded to climb to 8500. While climbing, I tried to activate the Autopilot, which tested perfectly on the ground, but it would not acquire. I kept getting an error on one of the servos, so accepted the fact that I would be doing all the flying. The flight was un-eventful as I was passed from station to station on the route to MVN. Not long after I started flying over the Smokey Mountains, I began to encounter scattered clouds and did not want to get stuck below them, so called for permission to climb to clear the clouds and permission was granted to climb and remain VFR. This was repeated several times as I got closer to the mountain range peak, which on my route was 6000 ft. I began to see towering clouds in the distance and could tell that they were thunder storms as confirmed by my Dynon Skyview. It was so cool to watch the two towers grow, one taller than the other, until the tall one began to break up at the top and the other stopped growing These towers were 2 or 3 thousand feet apart, and I had my sight set on flying between them. I knew that once I cleared those, I would be heading down the other side of the mountain range into the valley to my fuel stop. I had been climbing for quite some time as I was almost mesmerized by the cloud cover and the two towers that I was about to travel between. I could not help thinking about what was happening and how impossible it might seem to some who had never experienced such an adventure. It was almost like I was not there, like I was outside of myself, watching a guy who built a box with wings on it, flying between two towering clouds, a lot like I had experienced when travelling in an airline. But it was me inside that box and as I was about to cross over the peak and head down the other side to Upper Cumberland Regional Airport in Tennessee, when I happened to notice that the Black Bird's Corvair engine had taken us to almost 14,000 feet. I then realized that I had been over 10,000 for some time now and began to check my physical condition to be sure that I was not suffering from any delusions. I seemed OK, but knew that I had to get down soon, so pointed the nose down, pulled the power a bit and cruised to the airport, calling ATC that I was descending to my destination, or something like that. While on the ground, I received a phone call from my friend James Clark, who had been following me via my Mode S transponder and some software package. It was pretty cool. He checked the weather from there to MVN and advised me to fly at about 4000 ft for the rest of the trip and I would have no weather problems. He was right, but it was bumpy and hazy. I much preferred flying in the smooth air why up high. It was not too long before I was anti
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All the hardware in question was hand made using a metal cutting band saw to cut the steel. or a regular wood cutting miter saw with a 60 tooth carbide blade to cut the 6061-T6. All the steel was welded using aTIG welder.Nothing real high tech in my shop. One other thing I didn't mention, when cuting the steel,a jig saw with a metal cutting blade works great for cutting steel.Infact I use it more then my band saw. Robert Pesak Hermitage, Tn. http://photobucket.com/robertskrs - Forwarded Message - From: "John Skorczewski" <jsko...@hotmail.com> To: kr...@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 1:59:02 PM Subject: RE: KR> bike trip Dr John Skorczewski 1325 Jefferson Dr. Nashville, IL 62263 618-327-4348 (work) 618-327-4264 (home) 314-374-4569 (cell) Very nice photos and workmanship. I have a question. Did he fabricate the hardware for his canopy hinge and wing control surfaces himself or are they prefab? The hardware looks very nice. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> bike trip
Dr John Skorczewski 1325 Jefferson Dr. Nashville, IL 62263 > From: jsko...@hotmail.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> bike trip > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:59:02 -0500 > > > > > Dr John Skorczewski > 1325 Jefferson Dr. > Nashville, IL 62263 > 618-327-4348 (work) > 618-327-4264 (home) > 314-374-4569 (cell) One more observation/question, how is the clearance determined between the canopy hinge and the instrument panel components? _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
KR> bike trip
Dr John Skorczewski 1325 Jefferson Dr. Nashville, IL 62263 618-327-4348 (work) 618-327-4264 (home) 314-374-4569 (cell) Very nice photos and workmanship. I have a question. Did he fabricate the hardware for his canopy hinge and wing control surfaces himself or are they prefab? The hardware looks very nice. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
KR> bike trip
Yes I have to agree that airplane put us all to shame that is one beautiful airplane and great workmanship, I looked at the pictures for hours today great job Robert. From: Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 6:11:16 PM Subject: Re: KR> bike trip Robert Pesak wrote: > I just got home from a place called Hazel green Al. It's one hundred > fourteen miles from my home in Hermitage, Tn. I had a great time visiting > with everyone at Mark's airport, as I watched them build a deck onto the > new club house. I hope it wont be to much longer before I can fly down,but > I'm not complaining...The ride was great. If y'all haven't seen Roberts photos at http://s449.photobucket.com/albums/qq219/rkpsk1/ , it's a real treat. Anybody hoping to win any KR awards at the KR Gathering would be well advised to do your best this year, because next year Robert's plane is going to win them all. That is one gorgeous airplane and it's not even painted yet. In fact, I don't think I'd paint any of the wood, since it's perfect like it is. The whole thing is just plain awesome. I plan to fly up and see it in person once my plane is back together. He forgot to mention the Harley he was riding when he showed up, also perfect. I was afraid he wouldn't have much to do while he was there, but he ended up entertaining everybody there... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> bike trip
Robert Pesak wrote: > I just got home from a place called Hazel green Al. It's one hundred > fourteen miles from my home in Hermitage, Tn. I had a great time visiting > with everyone at Mark's airport, as I watched them build a deck onto the > new club house. I hope it wont be to much longer before I can fly down,but > I'm not complaining...The ride was great. If y'all haven't seen Roberts photos at http://s449.photobucket.com/albums/qq219/rkpsk1/ , it's a real treat. Anybody hoping to win any KR awards at the KR Gathering would be well advised to do your best this year, because next year Robert's plane is going to win them all. That is one gorgeous airplane and it's not even painted yet. In fact, I don't think I'd paint any of the wood, since it's perfect like it is. The whole thing is just plain awesome. I plan to fly up and see it in person once my plane is back together. He forgot to mention the Harley he was riding when he showed up, also perfect. I was afraid he wouldn't have much to do while he was there, but he ended up entertaining everybody there... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> bike trip
Hi everyone I sent the link for my pictures,but I'm not sure that it came out right. I think this will work. Robert Pesak Hermitage, Tn. http :// photobucket .com/ robertskrs
KR> bike trip
Hi Everyone, I just got home from a place called Hazel green Al. It's one hundred fourteen miles from my home in Hermitage, Tn. I had a great time visiting with everyone at Mark's airport, as I watched them build a deck onto the new club house. I hope it wont be to much longer before I can fly down,but I'm not complaining...The ride was great. Robert Pesak Hermitage, Tn. http://s449.photobucket.com/albums/qq219/rkpsk1/?action=view=P2010002.jpg
KR> today's trip
NetHeads, I flew down to my father's farm today, stopping by Bessemer to pick up my brother along the way. If you visit http://aprs.fi/?call=n56ml and change the SHOW LAST field to 12 HOURS (or whatever it takes to get the round trip) you can get a good idea of what it was like. If you change the Google Maps view to SATELLITE and zoom in on the south end of the trip (in south Alabama) you'll see my father's lakes and the runway we took off on, as well as the "traffic pattern". Click on the red dots for info and note the approach speed...211 mph. If you can't get the "live" site up, check out http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/aprs/LL_lake2.jpg for a snapshot at the end of the trail. Pretty cool stuff, at least from my standpoint! For more details on how this works see http://fly.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/tracker.htm . Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> KR Gathering / Trip Flight Log
Hi Robin, Good to hear from you. I flew the KR to another fly in in Southern, NM yesterday. With the additionaly horsing around I did at the Gathering, I have logged a total of 26.5 hours on the KR in the last two weeks. Best regards, -Jeff On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:00:38 +1300 Robin Macdonald <r.macdon...@clear.net.nz> writes: > Jeff, > > Enjoyed your trip log. What was the total flying time. > > >From someone who can fly coast to coast in approx 2 hrs. > > 50% done & 90% to go. > > Robin > > N.Z. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pi...@juno.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:41 AM > Subject: KR> KR Gathering / Trip Flight Log > > > > > Jeff Scott & N1213W > Los Alamos, NM > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYddQTYkWDyrPcAB7ZpcqolNDuRlmMS1wUft0BEzqOpEIJPptoU/
KR> KR Gathering / Trip Flight Log
I'm finally back home in Los Alamos again. It seems like so much longer than 10 days ago that I left home in the KR. It was a really enjoyable trip for me. I put this travel log together which I hope gives somewhat of a flavor of what it's like to travel in a plane with the performance of the KR, and what it's like to travel out west, as well as around the Midwest by plane. Sept 12. Left home, initially with a planned stop in Hays, KS to refuel en route to Albia, IA. Right off the bat I climb to 12,500' to clear the mountains of the Sangre de Cristo range, then descend to 11,500' for cruise east of the mountains. Kansas was having fog, so I diverted north into Colorado with a planned fuel stop in Goodland, KS in the very north west corner of the state. I ran into questionable weather in La Juanta, CO, so landed there to check weather conditions along my route. I refueled in La Juanta and watched the weather for a couple of hours before going on my way again. With full tanks, I climbed back to 9500' for cruise, bypassed Goodland, KS and flew in nice weather to Beatrice, NE where I had to pick my way down through about three layers of broken and scattered clouds. I refueled again there and fed the plane a quart of oil and was on my way again at 9500'. The afternoon cumulus build up finally exceeded my ability to outclimb it, so I descended to 3500' and flew in the rough air the last hour. I landed in Centerville, IA to refuel, then hopped 20 miles north to Albia to spend a couple of days. Total flight time was 6.0 hours. Sept 15. I launched from Albia and flew non-stop to Lake Elmo airport just east of St Paul, MN. I took a short detour to fly over and photograph the Iowa Speedway in Newton. Albia to St Paul with a small side trip was 2 hours. Sept 17. I left Lake Elmo and flew what is easily the longest flight I have ever flown in the KR. I was airborne for 3.5 hours and flew non-stop from Lake Elmo, MN to Mt Vernon, IL, at 9500', which is in the South Central IL just a few miles from the Kentucky border. That was at the end of my safe fuel range. I attended the annual KR Gathering which is always like returning home to see family. Unfortunately, the gathering was a light turnout due to the poor weather in the southeast. We also had two accidents with two aircraft destroyed and two pilots seriously injured while landing in Mt Vernon, which put a bit of a damper on the usual flying activities. Sept 20. I was supposed to fly to TN to look at an airplane project, but the weather was very low overcast with rain. Instead, I rode to Jackson, TN with a Steve Bray so I could see the project. Sept 21. After spending the night with Steve and his wife, he drove me back to Mt Vernon so I could continue on with my trip. Even though it was mid afternoon the day after the fly in ended, Jeff Nelson and Tommy Waymack were still waiting for the weather to clear enough for them to leave. I spent about an hour at the airport, then the three of us all launched, with Jeff headed north and Tommy and I both headed for AR. While Tommy chose to ride along under the clouds, I chose to go on top of a scattered to broken overcast and divert around a few big cumulus clouds. Eventually, the afternoon build up had forced me to 12, 500 and was going to go higher, so I descended to 3500' and took my lumps in the rough air underneath for the last 80 miles. I landed at my destination in Bentonville, AR just ahead of a storm front moving in from the west. It took 2.6 hours to fly from Mt Vernon, IL to Bentonville, AR. Sept 23. I launched from Bentonville at 10:30 headed west. While I have managed to have a headwind on every leg of this trip, the winds today were exceptional. I climbed to 8500 feet and found the headwinds blowing at 50+ kts, so it was back down low under the clouds for a rough ride all day long. The forecast was for moderate to severe turbulence the whole route home. This time the forecasters didn't miss. My scheduled fuel stop was in Borger, TX, but with the strong headwinds, I decided to drop in to Woodward, OK to refuel and check weather again. I left Woodward and slogged along in strong headwinds and very rough air, but was still home in another 3 hours. As I continued to work my way west, I checked the AWOS stations along the route and found that, as forecast, the winds were switching around from the west to the north. Once I reached New Mexico, I was finally out of the winds, but was back up at 10,500' to clear the mountains while skirting snow showers rolling their way down from the north. Again, I was home just a short time before the rain/snow hit. Sometimes timing is everything. :o) Total flight time from Bentonville, AR to Los Alamos, NM was 5.5 hours flying at economy cruise. I have known ever since I put this engine back together last December with the new exhaust that
KR> Northern Trip Update!
Well, here I sit at my new computer to send out a hote to all those who are following the first of what I hope are many more successful trips to visit and help fellow builders and pilots. As you may know I left out of Valdosta GA in my Corvair powered KR2S for LaGrange GA (180 m) on (last) tuesday morning and stopped in to visit Gardiner Mason and his Corvair powered Peitenpol. I inspected a lot of his work and gave him some kind suggestions about directions to take in a few areas and signed off his wing work. After a couple hours there I continuted my way to Casey (1H8) IL (440 m). There I spent a couple days with Cleone Markwell and his lovely wife. We worked on his Corvair powered 601HD, completed an annual inspection and preped the airplane for first Corvair-powered flight. It used to have a Subaru engine. Thursday I test flew it and found it a pleasant flying plane. Friday I flew with Cleone and found him to be competant as a pilot with a little brushing up. Being that there are still a couple small things to take care of on his plane I will return to his strip before the last flight home to finish up - but I had to be in the air! Friday afternoon I left Casey for Fargo, ND (720 m). I ended up making one fuel stop along the way in Independance Iowa because of weather I had to skirt cost me an hour. I arrived in Fargo about 530pm and was met by John Kearney. This is a great guy and his wife is better! He is highly motivated to help fellow builders and has the right attitude about the whole concept about the Corvair movement. I had a fabulous time meeting other Corvair builders and learning about their projects and answering questions. I think we have a great group of people in our movement that reflects the quality of the idea behind the corvair. Sunday afternoon I said goodybye to these guys and headed for Pittsburg Kansas (700 m) where I spent a nother day woth KR pilot Paul Russell. He recently purchased Steve Glover's KR2 but wanted some instruction and a test flight. So after test flying the airplane and repairing a couple small items we sent a little time in it to get Paul comfortable with the nature of the KR beast. You should see him at the Gathering this year! Monday afternoon I left for Mountain View Mo to spend a day with my folks. It was a break I needed after 2200 miles of flying. Tuesday my dad and I flew my KR to Harrison AR to meet 601XL builder Robin Beloach and did a construction inspection and talked through some build questions that he had. Look for a beautiful 601 flying overhead one of these days. He has some great work! Now I am back at my folks getting some rest and preparing for my mom's birthday tomorrow - then its off to Illinois again before heading home.. Give you all more later. Fly safe and build straight! Bill Clapp - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.
KR> KR/RV Trip out west???
I just got back from AZ with a little added trip down south but thought it is now time to start planning something for next spring. I spent a lot of time flying and driving over and around AZ. It is truly a spectacular state to see from low desert to high desert to ponderosa pines to incredible rough mountains. Since there are now several new flying KR's, here is to plan on. How about me starting a yahoo group so we don't overburden the KRNet and, say for example, plan a meeting out around St. Louis on a Thursday evening after work (some would have to leave a lunch time) spend the day in the airplanes Friday, do some tourist stuff on Sat., fly a couple hours north/south/east or west, do tourist stuff on Sunday and return to base on Monday. Take Friday and Monday off and fly as a gaggle on flight days. Never too early to start planning and like I said, I have seen several RV'er I know do the same thing form out west to the going to Cancun to the Carib, using a temp. yahoo group. It doesn't have to be AZ, but I would like to go west. We can decide on the yahoo group. If anyone might me interested, let me know and I'll go ahead and set up the group. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html do not archive _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001
KR> KR/RV Trip out west???
OK, just to clear up a couple private emails I got: I did not plan on just flying around St. Louis...we go WEST. I set up a site so if you are at least interested join up. That will determine, at a point in the future, if it is going to viable. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kr-rv/ Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html do not archive _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create_url=/friends.aspx=en-us
KR> Gathering trip planning
When the distance to destination is longer than fuel/bladder capacities, www.airnav.com is a great source for finding cheap fuel. In my case, K81 offers $3.10 100LL and in addition has a BBQ restaurant on the field. Full tank, full tummy and empty bladder. Add nice weather and it doesn't get any better. Ron Lee
KR> Gathering trip planning
Clifton Tennessee, M29, has seversl hundred gallons of 100LL THAT HAS EXPIRED, and will sell it for $2.25 per gal. but can not put it in an airplane if anyone is intrested. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: Ron Lee <ron...@pcisys.net> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: kr...@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Gathering trip planning >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:09:59 -0600 > >When the distance to destination is longer than fuel/bladder capacities, >www.airnav.com is a great source for finding cheap fuel. In my case, K81 >offers $3.10 100LL and in addition has a BBQ restaurant on the field. > >Full tank, full tummy and empty bladder. Add nice weather and it doesn't >get any better. > >Ron Lee > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> The trip
Mark J and ya'll Just got off the phone with Lee Van Dyke.He and Richard Shirley and Steve Glover are in Dodge city Kansas.Said so far the trip has been great.I guess Richard just gets out ahead of them enough and cuts the engine and waits for them to catch up.They are hoping to get the heck out of Dodge early and be at Mark J's airport around 1:00PM.Steve is going to fly with them for a short while and then peel off to deliver the airplane to the new owner...As for me I'm out the door to meet the group for breakfast at 6:00AM and we should be on the road by 7:00AM...SE YA". Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glid...@ccrtc.com
KR> BKW trip
Wow - What a day guys. I don't really know how to put this day trip into words. I left UKT at 6:45 am and had to make a leg around Camp David to make the trip to BKW about 370 miles instead of 320 or so. I contacted and talked to control centers all the way down and it made me more comfortable about traffic. The transponder quite about 75 miles from arrival and then worked fine on the way home. I am getting more and more proficient at holding altitude and course (well maybe not at the same time) I got to BKW at about 9:30 am. Mark Langford arrived about a half hour latter. I heard him call a straight inn approach and knew exactly where to look and still did not see him until he was only a quarter mile out. He performed what appeared to be a flawless landing. He came out of the haze like magic- just appeared. I met at his plane as he got out and he started to unwire all the stuff that makes his plane a rocket science test bed. We spent close to the next hour going over each others planes. We traded rides in our planes, with Mark being the first passenger in 357CJ. All the hype about carrying someone additional was way more than the actual event and I believe that is going to be the case as more and more 2S ships get in the air. By the way I did give Mark the thrill of the bounce on landing. Mark conned the rent a car lady into getting us some lunch and we had a little BS secession.( I doubt that he believed me) After that we fueled up and took off together for a photo shoot and then to head for home. We did not go head to head with the planes but right now the performance is very similar and the handling as far as I could tell was identical in spite of the differences. I do think that Mark has an easy 10 to 15 mph hiding in the details he has yet to finish. I had a great trip home with clear skies and Mark got the short end of the stick having to climb above clouds and dodge showers. I ended the day with a logbook fattening 5 1/2 hours. Another hour from Saturday and another 1:45 today giving my 11 year old son his first ride. Pretty good weekend for sure. Any one else want to meet halfway??? Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
KR> tower trip
Ah the good old days. I damn near got shot at Nellis one night when me = and an Admiral deplaned for a smoke. We were standing off the flight line = having a butt when the Air Police showed up yelling and jumping up & down. = About ready to lock me up after I told the young airman to go piss up a rope. = The Admiral started laughing and flashed his ID. They disappeared as quickly = as they appeared. Seems the Air Force don't like Army Warrant Officers. Doug Back then Lee it was Kool Filters, there was an ashtray at every = position.=20 The big no-no was drinking beer within 100 ft. of the rapcon and the = headset cords were only 25 ft. long ! Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: = 1/3/2006 =20
KR> tower trip
I still miss it Steve ever after all these years. Flew corporate for a = while then freight as pax got on my nerves with all the stupid questions, = usually when you were on short final in high traffic area. Military flying was = the best, getting paid to fly on the ragged edge all the time. Addicted to = the adrenaline rush. Doug Hay Doug To this day that guy remembers you too. The GCA guy was just doing his = job=20 that he was well trained to do and was probably the lowest ranking one = in there. We had it a little better than the FAA guys because we delt with pilots = that knew what they were doing.=20 Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: = 1/3/2006 =20
KR> tower trip
Doug The AP's hated everybody. They were bad bored and most didn't want to be AP's anyway. It was scary on a SAC base. Straight out of basic they would hand a one striper a loaded m-16 and give him a kill zone, anyone inside these strips, you shoot !!! We had to cross the ramp to get to the RAPCON and there were strips there. My trainer was walking out in uniform and stepped on a stripe. The marched him at gunpoint 1/4 mile to the only mud puddle, made him lay in it and put the dog on him! The dog was bored too. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Doug Rupert" <drup...@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: RE: KR> tower trip >Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 00:30:55 -0500 > >Ah the good old days. I damn near got shot at Nellis one night when me and >an Admiral deplaned for a smoke. We were standing off the flight line >having >a butt when the Air Police showed up yelling and jumping up & down. About >ready to lock me up after I told the young airman to go piss up a rope. The >Admiral started laughing and flashed his ID. They disappeared as quickly as >they appeared. Seems the Air Force don't like Army Warrant Officers. >Doug > >Back then Lee it was Kool Filters, there was an ashtray at every position. >The big no-no was drinking beer within 100 ft. of the rapcon and the >headset > >cords were only 25 ft. long ! > >Steve Bray >Jackson, Tennessee > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 1/3/2006 > > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tower trip
Netters, In the late 80¹s when I was teaching, I would take three students at a time for a ride in a C 172, each one had a chance to fly right seat then we would do a tower tour. Then I would go back to the school and pick up three more students. They liked it and I loved it. The school board shut me down, something about liability insurance, even though I had written permission from their parents. Anytime you get a chance to visit a tower you should do it. Happy New Year to all, Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA
KR> tower trip
Steve: I personally delivered a bottle of Scotch to the GCA Controller = that got me and my load of wounded safely on the runway centerline in = zero-zero conditions in Vietnam one night. Scariest damn approach of my life and = have had complete confidence in military controllers ever since. Civilian controllers run a close second as they suffer greatly from overwork and = long schedules. Rapid burn out rate at higher traffic airports and centers. Doug Rupert Mark I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe = how=20 much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make = time for them. I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get = many=20 visitors, unless they were pissed. Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when = your=20 windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a = diffrence. They will remember you. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: = 12/29/2005 =20
KR> tower trip
Hay Doug To this day that guy remembers you too. The GCA guy was just doing his job that he was well trained to do and was probably the lowest ranking one in there. We had it a little better than the FAA guys because we delt with pilots that knew what they were doing. Dealing with silly-villians is a whole nother thing. It was the only job I've ever had that I enjoyed doing and looked foward to going to work. The day I left Kedina AFB we were so covered up the crew chief shached my chair back and the relief stepped in, he had been watching for thirty min. trying to get the picture. Didn't even get to say bye to my crew, I loved it. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Doug Rupert" <drup...@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: RE: KR> tower trip >Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:53:21 -0500 > >Steve: I personally delivered a bottle of Scotch to the GCA Controller that >got me and my load of wounded safely on the runway centerline in zero-zero >conditions in Vietnam one night. Scariest damn approach of my life and have >had complete confidence in military controllers ever since. Civilian >controllers run a close second as they suffer greatly from overwork and >long >schedules. Rapid burn out rate at higher traffic airports and centers. >Doug Rupert > >Mark >I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe how >much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make >time > >for them. >I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get many >visitors, >unless they were pissed. >Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when your >windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. >Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a >diffrence. >They will remember you. > >Steve Bray >Jackson, Tennessee > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 12/29/2005 > > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tower trip
Jim, I'm thinking the EAA people who started the Young Eagles might have got the idea for this wonderful program from you. Watching a young boy or girl catch their first fish is fun, watching the same two kids who have never been up in an airplane before when you lift off is even more fun. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rsto...@hot.rr.copm - Original Message - From: "Jim Morehead" <kr...@d-web.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: KR> tower trip Netters, In the late O80¹s when I was teaching, I would take three students at a time for a ride in a C 172, each one had a chance to fly right seat then we would do a tower tour. Then I would go back to the school and pick up three more students. They liked it and I loved it. The school board shut me down, something about liability insurance, even though I had written permission from their parents. Anytime you get a chance to visit a tower you should do it. Happy New Year to all, Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tower trip
I've taken a tower tour at Tampa International more than once. They ask if you are a pilot, and if so, give you "the special". The trip through the basement apporach control area, then up into the tower, took about two hours. Every detail is explained, and much to my surprise, several controllers are EAA memebers and pilots. It is an eye-opener and should be a definate "must" on your list of flying things to do. The tour helps to explain things in your mind when you are given directions that just don't make sense, and also helps you understand that, like yourself, they are human and make errors, and realize they do. 99% of them strive to give great service. When I was there, one controller made the remark, "I don't like Cessna pilots." Another controler turned to him and said, "That's because you don't like anybody, so shut up!" That one guy is the 1%. A bad apple caught in a government bureacracy that will one day get his due.or I can only hope. Point is: I don't let this guy ruin my vision of the other 99%, but if I encounter him, I shall go to his supervisor. Great people. I then went to the Tampa FSO to see what was going on there. What do I see? A guy who was a member of the same ABATE chapter I was ( A Brotherhood Aiming Toward Education, a motorcycle rights group) sitting in an officehe was the local director of the FSO. I talked to the guy a million times and never knew it. It's nice to know you have friends in high places. All in all, a great bunch of people. Do like Mark says...take the tour. You will forever be happy about it. Scott __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
KR> tower trip
Steve Bray, did they let you smoke that pipe in the Air Force??? Lee Van Dyke just kidding - Original Message - From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: RE: KR> tower trip > Mark > I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe how > much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make time > for them. > I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get many > visitors, > unless they were pissed. > Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when your > windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. > Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a > diffrence. > They will remember you. > > Steve Bray > Jackson, Tennessee > > > > > >From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > >Subject: KR> tower trip > >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > > > >NetHeads, > > > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to fly > >to > >Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on > >dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so I > >thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the workload > >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but > >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at > >all > >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get handed > >off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good stuff. > >The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June during my > >emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good time > >talking the whole thing over. > > > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You can > >find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick your > >region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a call. He > >said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around talking to all > >the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long enough and > >bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away with a > >much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of the radio > >are > >doing... > > > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >
KR> tower trip
Back then Lee it was Kool Filters, there was an ashtray at every position. The big no-no was drinking beer within 100 ft. of the rapcon and the headset cords were only 25 ft. long ! Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: Re: KR> tower trip >Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:50:39 -0700 > >Steve Bray, did they let you smoke that pipe in the Air Force??? > >Lee Van Dyke > >just kidding > > >- Original Message - >From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com> >To: <kr...@mylist.net> >Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:31 PM >Subject: RE: KR> tower trip > > > > Mark > > I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe >how > > much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make >time > > for them. > > I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get >many > > visitors, > > unless they were pissed. > > Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when >your > > windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. > > Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a > > diffrence. > > They will remember you. > > > > Steve Bray > > Jackson, Tennessee > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> > > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > > >Subject: KR> tower trip > > >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > > > > > >NetHeads, > > > > > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to >fly > > >to > > >Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on > > >dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so >I > > >thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the >workload > > >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy >but > > >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking >at > > >all > > >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > > >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get >handed > > >off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good >stuff. > > >The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June during >my > > >emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good time > > >talking the whole thing over. > > > > > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You >can > > >find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick >your > > >region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a call. >He > > >said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around talking to >all > > >the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long enough >and > > >bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away with >a > > >much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of the >radio > > >are > > >doing... > > > > > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > > >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > > >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tower trip and safety seminars
Mark is right. You can also get with controllers when they participate in local Safety Seminars. Call your local FSDO or go online and find out who the local ASC's ( Aviation Safety Counselors ) are in your area, and they will have information about Safety Seminars being offered. They are free, count towards the Wings Program ( which allows you to skip having to arrange for a Flight Review ), and most are very informative. We have several in our FSDO that travel to different airports going over VFR and IFR procedures, communications, etc... Also ATC usually has a member of their group responsible for these Seminars beause it makes them points with the FAA, and I believe a certain number are required each year... Colin Rainey brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net
KR> tower trip
I'm going on a tour of our local tower Saturday.And then a friend of mine works at the Indianapolis center and is going to take a few of us to see it down the road...The centers are really interesting... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glid...@ccrtc.com
KR> tower trip
Mark I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe how much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make time for them. I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get many visitors, unless they were pissed. Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when your windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a diffrence. They will remember you. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: KR> tower trip >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > >NetHeads, > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to fly >to >Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on >dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so I >thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the workload >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at >all >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get handed >off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good stuff. >The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June during my >emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good time >talking the whole thing over. > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You can >find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick your >region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a call. He >said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around talking to all >the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long enough and >bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away with a >much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of the radio >are >doing... > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tower trip
That's interesting. I have a cub scout tour of our airport and control tower scheduled as a field trip for the group. It is a couple of months out but am really looking forward to it and the scouts think this is way too cool. We are going to try and get some Young Eagles flights in also. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: KR> tower trip > NetHeads, > > Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to fly to > Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on > dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so I > thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the workload > couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but > "come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at all > the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get handed > off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good stuff. > The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June during my > emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good time > talking the whole thing over. > > The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You can > find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick your > region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a call. He > said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around talking to all > the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long enough and > bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away with a > much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of the radio are > doing... > > Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re:Germany trip
Hi Mark, I live in Germany and want to meet you if you want. I am in the begining to build a KR2. If you can meet me, can you bring to me a set of plans from the KR2S? My location is in Fulda, it is near to Frankfurt. If you come to Frankfurt, I can drive you with my car... I am in contact with Herbert Fuerle, so I can inform Herbert, that you are in Germany and we can meet us.. To what cities will you come in Germany? I hope we can meet us Juergen Am Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 12:58 schrieb Mark Langford: > Serge wrote: > > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! > > Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I > lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another > year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of life... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re:Germany trip
Serge wrote: > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of life... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
Réf. : KR> Re:Germany trip
Too bad. I would have jumped at the opportunity! After all, you're one of
my favourite heroes! ;-)
Serge
"Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
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2004-09-29 14:58
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Objet : KR> Re:Germany trip
Serge wrote:
> Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!!
Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I
lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another
year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of
life...
Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
N56ML at hiwaay.net
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
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KR> Re:Germany trip
Hi Mark we have never met but I spent 29 months at Furstenfeldbrook AFB 9/12/46 to 12/12/48 and still stay in touch with 3 families in Bavaria that I am very bounded from the Grandparents,and parents. It is always delightful to know of others that have experienced similiar things. Where are u going there and what duration will you trip be? Hope to hear from u but if I don't have a great trip and Auf wiedersehen . John Adkins - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:58 AM Subject: KR> Re:Germany trip > Serge wrote: > > > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! > > Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I > lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another > year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of life... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Oshkosh trip
Larry Flesner wrote: > Mark Langford stopped by on his way home from Oshkosh and we > got in some KR stick time this morning. I'll let him tell the story. Yep, got back a few hours ago. Thanks a lot for the KR stick time. It's the most stable KR I've flown so far, and a joy to fly. While I was there, Larry took me on a tour of the Mount Vernon airport. This Gathering will have about 10 times more space than what we're used to, complete with conference rooms, and it even has a baggage handling system! It's a great location. I also visited Mark Jones and saw a lot of familiar faces at the KR forum, as well as at other events like William Wynne's Corvair engine forum. I came to the realization that I don't go to Oshkosh to see airplanes every year as much as I go to see old friends. > Maybe he can even post some photos after he huggs the wife > and kids. I hope he posts one of my flying buddy, A, EAA > T.C., and good friend flying formation with us in his Acro Sport II > this morning. we had some REALLY GOOD AIR !!! Here's the Acro Sport, at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/040727148m.jpg . I just noticed that this plane is also on the cover of the new Wicks catalog, along with Mark Jones' KR2S and Marty Roberts' KR2. And there's a picture of Larry and his KR at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/040727111m.jpg . Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
