KR> Wing dihedral
To add a couple degrees would only move the upper or lower bracket's hole a fraction of an inch. I would think that would be hard to do. Better to make new attachment fittings for one side and replace them. Perhaps an engineer might be able to say if you could enlarge for example, the top attach hole by drilling the larger hole more inward. You would have to go up by the amount you need to move the center, and make sure the edge is at the edge of the original smaller hole. But you'd have less material on the attach fitting. Only an engineer would be able to say if that is safe and I am no engineer. Just my thoughts. > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:32:11 -0600 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > I wonder if I can shim my wing attachments to create more dihedral? I could > use some help with my instrument approaches too. > > Joe > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet > Date:01/23/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Mark Langford ,KRnet list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > Thanks Mark, I though it was you. I guess I had it backwards. I > guess increasing the dihedral will also help me shoot my ILS approaches. : ) > > Paul Visk > Belleville Il > 618-406-4705 > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > > Original message From: Mark Langford via > KRnet Date:01/23/2015 7:53 PM > (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > Paul Visk wrote: > > >>I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. If I remember > right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. Does > anyone remember the discussion and what was said.<< > > The only discussion I remember is when I said I'd INCREASE the dihedral > on my next plane to improve roll stability. I'll probably increase it > by a third for starters. Others may have other opinions, by every KR > I've flown liked to wander off to the left or right by slowly dipping a > wing and never come back again... > > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Wing dihedral
Dihedral is good. Why would you want to do that! That had to be a "tongue in cheek" comment. My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- I wonder if I can shim my wing attachments to create more dihedral? I could use some help with my instrument approaches too.
KR> Wing dihedral
Dan, ?I was serious but I had it backwards.? Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Dan Heath via KRnet Date:01/23/2015 9:46 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'bjoenunley' ,'KRnet' Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral Dihedral is good. Why would you want to do that! That had to be a "tongue in cheek" comment. My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- I wonder if I can shim my wing attachments to create more dihedral? I could use some help with my instrument approaches too. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Wing dihedral
It is very difficult to move a hole...enlarging usually just results in a larger hole in the same place...you can do it...it involves clamping a large block with a predrilled hole to the part...use piloted reamers...then ream up 1/64th at a time. Probably easier to make new fittings in this case. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale On Jan 23, 2015 9:47 PM, "Chris Prata via KRnet" wrote: > To add a couple degrees would only move the upper or lower bracket's hole > a fraction of an inch. I would think that would be hard to do. Better to > make new attachment fittings for one side and replace them. > Perhaps an engineer might be able to say if you could enlarge for example, > the top attach hole by drilling the larger hole more inward. You would have > to go up by the amount you need to move the center, and make sure the edge > is at the edge of the original smaller hole. But you'd have less material > on the attach fitting. Only an engineer would be able to say if that is > safe and I am no engineer. Just my thoughts. > > > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:32:11 -0600 > > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > > I wonder if I can shim my wing attachments to create more dihedral? I > could use some help with my instrument approaches too. > > > > Joe > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > Original message From: ppaulvsk via > KRnet Date:01/23/2015 8:06 PM > (GMT-06:00) To: Mark Langford ,KRnet < > krnet at list.krnet.org> Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > > > Thanks Mark, I though it was you. I guess I had it backwards. I > guess increasing the dihedral will also help me shoot my ILS approaches. : ) > > > > Paul Visk > > Belleville Il > > 618-406-4705 > > > > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > > > > Original message From: Mark Langford > via KRnet Date:01/23/2015 7:53 PM > (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral > > Paul Visk wrote: > > > > >>I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. If I remember > > right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. Does > > anyone remember the discussion and what was said.<< > > > > The only discussion I remember is when I said I'd INCREASE the dihedral > > on my next plane to improve roll stability. I'll probably increase it > > by a third for starters. Others may have other opinions, by every KR > > I've flown liked to wander off to the left or right by slowly dipping a > > wing and never come back again... > > > > > > Mark Langford > > ML at N56ML.com > > http://www.n56ml.com > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> Wing dihedral
I wonder if I can shim my wing attachments to?create more?dihedral? ?I could use some help with my instrument approaches ?too. Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ppaulvsk via KRnet Date:01/23/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mark Langford ,KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral Thanks Mark, I though it was you. I guess I had it backwards. I guess increasing the dihedral will also help me shoot my ILS approaches. : ) Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Mark Langford via KRnet Date:01/23/2015 7:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral Paul Visk wrote: >>I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. If I remember right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. Does anyone remember the discussion and what was said.<< The only discussion I remember is when I said I'd INCREASE the dihedral on my next plane to improve roll stability. I'll probably increase it by a third for starters. Others may have other opinions, by every KR I've flown liked to wander off to the left or right by slowly dipping a wing and never come back again... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Wing dihedral
Thanks Mark, ?I though it was you. ?I guess I had it backwards. ?I guess increasing the dihedral will also help me shoot my ILS approaches. : ) Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Mark Langford via KRnet Date:01/23/2015 7:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Wing dihedral Paul Visk wrote: >>I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. If I remember right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. Does anyone remember the discussion and what was said.<< The only discussion I remember is when I said I'd INCREASE the dihedral on my next plane to improve roll stability. I'll probably increase it by a third for starters. Others may have other opinions, by every KR I've flown liked to wander off to the left or right by slowly dipping a wing and never come back again... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Wing dihedral
Paul Visk wrote: >>I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. If I remember right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. Does anyone remember the discussion and what was said.<< The only discussion I remember is when I said I'd INCREASE the dihedral on my next plane to improve roll stability. I'll probably increase it by a third for starters. Others may have other opinions, by every KR I've flown liked to wander off to the left or right by slowly dipping a wing and never come back again... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> Wing dihedral
Good evening, ?I'll be drilling my wing attach brackets his weekend. ?If I remember right there was talk about decreasing the dilhedral a little. ?Does anyone remember the discussion and what was said. Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705? ? Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
KR> Wing Dihedral-AS5046_KR2S
Joe Cruz wrote: >Is more dihedral a more advantage in my case or not? N56ML is just a little too willing to drift off center and start a slow roll to either left or right, and most other KR pilots I've talked to tell me theirs is the same. Willie Wilson told me he'd never flown one that didn't exhibit that behavior, but mine was better than any other he'd flown in that regard. So I've decided my next plane will have more dihedral. Your KR is a different animal, but a little more dihedral probably wouldn't hurt it either... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> Wing Dihedral-AS5046_KR2S
Dihedral is solely for lateral stability. You sacrifice just a little bit of lift for stability. It sounds like you kept the same angle...and that is good. Make sure you maintain the washout...that is there to make the outboard wings and ailerons stall last...again for lateral stability. Decalage is never "correct". You have to have downlift on the stabilizer to maintain pitch stability. The decalage is there as a neutral difference in stab aoa and wing aoa for level flight...but that changes with gross weight, cg, and airspeed. Logically a longer fuselage would drive less aoa on the stab to get the same moment. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale On Jun 11, 2014 7:00 AM, "cruzj12--- via KRnet" wrote: > Good mornignKR builders, > I have a question about wing dihedral for all the aeronautical engineering > people here.I'm currently extending my carbon fiber wing extensions with > the 29" template on the ends. My Fuselage is 18" longer than a standard > KR2S. . I'm measuring 5.25" of dihedral at the end of the main wood spars. > Is the extra quarter inch of dihedral going to affect the declage in favor > or not . With the tail 18" farther back it seems the decalage will be > smaller. My tail feathers are adjustable so I have ability to make > adjustments .Is more dihedral a more advantage in my case or not? Thanks > for any advice > Joe Cruz > cruzj12 at frontiernet.net > KR1.5 N3151K > KR2S builder > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> Wing Dihedral-AS5046_KR2S
?Good mornignKR builders, I have a question about wing dihedral for all the aeronautical engineering people here.I'm currently extending my carbon fiber wing extensions? with the 29" template on the ends. My Fuselage is 18" longer than a standard KR2S. . I'm measuring 5.25" of dihedral at the end of the main wood spars.? Is the extra quarter inch of dihedral going to affect the declage in favor or not . With the tail 18" farther back it seems the decalage will be smaller. My tail feathers are adjustable so I have?ability to make adjustments?.Is more dihedral a more advantage in my case or not? Thanks for any advice Joe Cruz cruzj12 at frontiernet.net KR1.5 N3151K KR2S builder
