KR> battery location

2009-12-14 Thread Tim
Battery installed on floor near the front door>

Been -30's/-40s here for a week, New record at Edmonton International 
Airport -46c no/nil wind. I'm preheating my vehicle with a propane space 
heater...-40F same as -40c  (-40 is where they both meet/merge)Feel 
like an Ice Pilot >

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KR> battery location

2009-12-14 Thread airgu...@comcast.net


#2 Welding sounds like the ticket. It sounds as though length (in KR terms) 
doesn't matter. I still think shorter is better so I will move it forward since 
I have the time. 

Thanks to all. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" n5...@hiwaay.net 


Well I found a place that says a reasonable current draw for a Sentra 
starter can be as much as 200 amps, so based on that, a 2 AWG wire would be 
better, and the added weight would be minimal over that short 5' distance. 



KR> battery location

2009-12-14 Thread Phillip Matheson
But the distance from the front of the spar to the rear of the
rear spar is only about 24" or so, and I don't see that making a huge
difference in starting capacity.
-

I moved my battery around during the early flight staged, and testing, I 
went from behind the pass seat to firewall aft side, as Mark did.
I now have a heavy forward Cof G, I need a min 70kg pilot to fly and I have 
a no problems with fuel with two in the plane.
( But I have wing tanks, with very little CofG  change from full to empty.)


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: KR> battery location


Paul in NH wrote:

> Where do most folks place the battery?

I was going to throw out that the best place is on the cabin side of the
firewall, on top of the firewall shelf where mine is, but then it occured to
me that not many people have removable front decks like I do, access would
be limited for most.  So I guess next best would be up against the front
edge of the front spar where it'd be out of the way, and away from the
engine heat.  But the distance from the front of the spar to the rear of the
rear spar is only about 24" or so, and I don't see that making a huge
difference in starting capacity.  If you are sure your connections are good,
and your cables are reasonable size, they ought to work, but if they are old
and internally corroded, a new set of cables with very clean connections may
do wonders.  I forget exactly what my cables are, but I believe I used 4 AWG
cable, which appears to be plenty for just about any kind of KR installation
(see http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/alternators/cables.html for more
on that).  I'm starting a Corvair with a Sentra starter and a 20 Ahr
battery, and it works fine, even on 30F days like Saturday when I flew it
just after dawn...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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KR> battery location

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Langford
Well I found a place that says a reasonable current draw for a Sentra 
starter can be as much as 200 amps, so based on that, a 2 AWG wire would be 
better, and the added weight would be minimal over that short 5' distance. 
Maybe that's what I used.  I'd check the leftover box, but it's out at the 
hangar. There's a little article on that at 
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/bat_cabl.html where Bob says #2 welding 
cable is the ticket...much more easily bent, and dirt cheap compared to 
aircraft cable...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 



KR> battery location

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Langford
Paul in NH wrote:

> Where do most folks place the battery?

I was going to throw out that the best place is on the cabin side of the 
firewall, on top of the firewall shelf where mine is, but then it occured to 
me that not many people have removable front decks like I do, access would 
be limited for most.  So I guess next best would be up against the front 
edge of the front spar where it'd be out of the way, and away from the 
engine heat.  But the distance from the front of the spar to the rear of the 
rear spar is only about 24" or so, and I don't see that making a huge 
difference in starting capacity.  If you are sure your connections are good, 
and your cables are reasonable size, they ought to work, but if they are old 
and internally corroded, a new set of cables with very clean connections may 
do wonders.  I forget exactly what my cables are, but I believe I used 4 AWG 
cable, which appears to be plenty for just about any kind of KR installation 
(see http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/alternators/cables.html for more 
on that).  I'm starting a Corvair with a Sentra starter and a 20 Ahr 
battery, and it works fine, even on 30F days like Saturday when I flew it 
just after dawn...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 



KR> battery location

2009-12-13 Thread Barry Kruyssen
Mine is in the firewall inside the engine compartment.

In your case, moving it that far forward will effect your CofG.  You will
have to calculate this to ensure you stay with in limits.


Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com 
http://athertonairport.com.au/kr2 
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia



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Now that winter has hit in force, I am looking at "improvements" to make.
One is to move the battery from just behind the seat to some more forward
location. One is in the engine compartment and the other is just forward of
the main spar. The reason for the move is poor starting performance. The
cables that I have from the battery to the firewall are evidently crappy and
if I have to do that much work, maybe a shorter path for the volts would
help too. 
Where do most folks place the battery? 

Paul in NH 
N7970K 


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KR> battery location

2009-12-13 Thread airgu...@comcast.net

Now that winter has hit in force, I am looking at "improvements" to make. One 
is to move the battery from just behind the seat to some more forward location. 
One is in the engine compartment and the other is just forward of the main 
spar. The reason for the move is poor starting performance. The cables that I 
have from the battery to the firewall are evidently crappy and if I have to do 
that much work, maybe a shorter path for the volts would help too. 
Where do most folks place the battery? 

Paul in NH 
N7970K