Re: Web Site Hosting
The main problem with a VPS is that we have to take care of the security, and that's NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. Configuration and maintenance is a piece of cake. Because of this I strongly suggest that we don't use a VPS. I have an idea: 1. Prepare rsync scripts and SSH keys 2. Put the script / scripts in the website git repo 3. Who wants to contribute gets SSH (SFTP) access and an WordPress account on the website I'm still thinking this through. Let's focus where it's necessary and that's making Kubuntu the best. Let's not waste man power. It's good to be able to receive volunteers on all IT areas, but I don't think this is the Kubuntu purpose. KDE does that already. P.S. Can't KDE host our website? P.P.S. I'm still on holidays till Sunday evening. Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN a href=http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com;GeekAliens. Com/a a href=http://ro.kubuntu.org;Kubuntu România/a -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Isn't that the main selling point of a vps at this point? The ability to grow? If in a year we decide we want something completely different from a Web site, and the vps isn't overloaded, it can just run on there. I am in favor of a vps, especially if it is a sponsorship deal. Cheers, - -O.I. van der Toorn. On 06/06/2015 01:05 AM, Xen wrote: That would be different :). Still the biggest difference is probably that on VPS you would have access to multiple user accounts and more people who can access it using their own accounts. And you could have more of a shell server. Then you could turn it into a shell host for Kubuntu supporters/contributors with dedicated who and chat programs on board ;-). A message board on the host ;-). People would then use the system to come together and enjoy themselves ;-). Regards, kudos. Quoting Rick.Timmis rick.tim...@abazander.com: Ah ha But I have a cunning plan, to implement a full community CRM system. Marketing, Press Contacts, Events, and much much more.. I set a Sick_Rimmit objective to bring Kubuntu from 28 on distrowatch to 14, by year end 2016 So a VPS, would help quite alot :-) Sent from my Dragon 32Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu@gmail.com wrote:IMHO the vps is too much. We don't need the hassle. We need web hosting with full access to our files. Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN a href=http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com;GeekAliens. Com/a a href=http://ro.kubuntu.org;Kubuntu România/a -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVcsa0AAoJEGW1xit1D3RXvFoP/iwKN29kF3FWUnG2VIETuQAV Jb0e2SVniDfik6HViIU+Y1Sz9Xr0Jh2AvyKFROWK/tPIoCQAzHo13RV81qeFv+xw 8CrlYYUVxW93amVveFADcIjXIUvO4P/+QqoHUkt7IfG3SW9Ru8EZ5By6kJOGDC6E 98FngWAGfnwph2ETA5IVAPNE7YG79/uNjoxhghl/H8xO+bKMXDXSNz4fPKQqFOfo KANecBI7GIj1ME9C/FU68qeS81093JpIT7v6ciYtkcGIW8kZJD+pDVhz8FCbbUvX SWd/kbg/aw8Gv6CcnOOyUlB05xtzp6juLmSiZktxcb6qoHQPtmlPG1oQYfLQdIjE 45tYhIzAJbGhcumNjcz12yeo2eN3rBUykr7rQ4VjIStzN0PDFxeipvgYvAtAie7G luz9jibKQ5e3yqjnkrrkJd9r3GyBqMmo1vaQOpvalraVj4+4dMr4gpeWkKLPZIuY FQFJT0+zgAcD5ILhscfNvYcpcTCJNuMlrqAWvanqs0yAbk72iA4OY6gzZu79mNxO Iypct4WRY25JtVGTqnDp5YceyIKUbN86cl/yA86yaeItZ7AU8/1pal997oaikB7f sladQkFyKui8O3z//+ErmPFdyRTo2SsHt3uM/HZv1zTiFlZMh44QU0SK5gn2Bxqy GW4F3gCmolegksrVmjhs =iIVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32-- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
When this semester ends, I'm more than happy to help. I have some experience in LAMP and LEMP stacks... And if no one would be able to personally ssh into the server, digital ocean has quite good tutorials for beginners on the matter, too (they can be used by sysadmins with http-only Internet access like 'do what they say in this article'). pt., 5 cze 2015, 08:29 Rick.Timmis użytkownik rick.tim...@abazander.com napisał: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
if I know anything really about sysadmin I would help out. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:29 AM Rick.Timmis rick.tim...@abazander.com wrote: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
OK, thats good to know Pawel. Once a server is setup, I can setup ssh keys, ( provided you've a known public key on launchpad ) I am more than happy to bo most or even all of the work, but need others to assist and be upto speed withits setup, so that I am not a single point of failure. So now we are 2 :-) Rick Sent from my Dragon 32Paweł Abramowicz pawelabr...@gmail.com wrote:When this semester ends, I'm more than happy to help. I have some experience in LAMP and LEMP stacks... And if no one would be able to personally ssh into the server, digital ocean has quite good tutorials for beginners on the matter, too (they can be used by sysadmins with http-only Internet access like 'do what they say in this article'). pt., 5 cze 2015, 08:29 Rick.Timmis użytkownik rick.tim...@abazander.com napisał: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey Kubuntu-dev, I have some experience with being a system administrator. Been a sys admin at my study association for a couple of years now. I'd like to help out :) Cheers, - -O.I. van der Toorn. On 06/05/2015 09:11 AM, Rick.Timmis wrote: OK, thats good to know Pawel. Once a server is setup, I can setup ssh keys, ( provided you've a known public key on launchpad ) I am more than happy to bo most or even all of the work, but need others to assist and be upto speed withits setup, so that I am not a single point of failure. So now we are 2 :-) Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 Pawe? Abramowicz pawelabr...@gmail.com wrote: When this semester ends, I'm more than happy to help. I have some experience in LAMP and LEMP stacks... And if no one would be able to personally ssh into the server, digital ocean has quite good tutorials for beginners on the matter, too (they can be used by sysadmins with http-only Internet access like 'do what they say in this article'). pt., 5 cze 2015, 08:29 Rick.Timmis u?ytkownik rick.tim...@abazander.com mailto:rick.tim...@abazander.com napisa?: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVcYBiAAoJEGW1xit1D3RXP1EP/0erqJN7WXurMnnpDxo2ZYIV gLs2i0cXGg6rq4cJawDWw6DZwLUBsRCABP+ZPlnfBJQn5kdIVbdx1IndkXKQXGDy QUsOZFXO35WYfnsYjyPJV8DsIlysyeUoOjcE8oqf187r5lPRhaCa+OXHmh3L3GJ4 WJSnzsIJ43J0vgWPK5PabQ5XjWlqLk5VpVdqcvR+zDN+U+YEAnQ1a/z98Y3uvGJ9 L5grFM9HPCfhyQJBvubR/XgjYvJr8z132UjXRwWon42PcPNgiJkATbK11ogrockh ssNy0EW7UkOsLocUC0GGC9TdsAQO60aohRWASOLlKjOKEsYvDT2p2KzMUwOSk0s3 2PykUQD8kR+3rvxoPe8GkdbpJsB7cHLL3avv1WhhZ3r1LiB5dy+711odKxIcMhEy rBhYR8Sz/UzOMkLjY1fH5407KeWBe3q6xr/tqfEJhGpH+/sWp53pNPK71hD+RQ4t 5GgEYUR+Yd31JAsYDtoKkoA7f5gBbo92geFHl8S0gVAkzWkvRld4K6feiu1X4YKh 19j2N4quzHCtG9/KoGKEhHU3rXTaAYJnyLHQsVjdrVA+CTONxFskZ9AENItoFIp7 s2lhWNRmUW6mPo3YOMlMVmyq9Uc/x8+xhVGddX4nlAPSyK2+WjCrXqahCbXyONH0 adKDfU2RWC+0aKcHtVVb =2ozy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
(This one.com indeed needs you to register a domain with them, which is a bit... well, silly. Sorry about that inclusion). Quoting Xen l...@xenhideout.nl: Are you sure about all of this? It's just a simple website right. At this point. Why get an VPS provider? It makes no sense. VPS is what you do if you want to build a complex website or a server that sports additional features other than the website. A place to run python scripts, do some background processing (or backend) a place to install an FTP server, and so on. Just for the website you just don't need it. The only thing that is something that is not always available with webhosts is SSH access. I would typically want that to be available. But then all of the other maintenance (that is not for the website itself) falls in the hands of the company you are purchasing it from. For example, this one seems fine: http://www.one.com/en/ftp-php-mysql-ssh-sftp Of course, being a software project yourself you DO want some ownness to it. But I think VPS is just too much, places too much of a burden on the volunteers. That is, unless you are planning to do much more with the website. (This one.com is weird though, it seems you have to register a domain.) Buuut, it seems you are already on the tract of getting a VPS. Take care though. Take care, and watch it. Regards, Bart Quoting Olivier van der Toorn oliviervdto...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey Kubuntu-dev, I have some experience with being a system administrator. Been a sys admin at my study association for a couple of years now. I'd like to help out :) Cheers, - -O.I. van der Toorn. On 06/05/2015 09:11 AM, Rick.Timmis wrote: OK, thats good to know Pawel. Once a server is setup, I can setup ssh keys, ( provided you've a known public key on launchpad ) I am more than happy to bo most or even all of the work, but need others to assist and be upto speed withits setup, so that I am not a single point of failure. So now we are 2 :-) Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 Pawe? Abramowicz pawelabr...@gmail.com wrote: When this semester ends, I'm more than happy to help. I have some experience in LAMP and LEMP stacks... And if no one would be able to personally ssh into the server, digital ocean has quite good tutorials for beginners on the matter, too (they can be used by sysadmins with http-only Internet access like 'do what they say in this article'). pt., 5 cze 2015, 08:29 Rick.Timmis u?ytkownik rick.tim...@abazander.com mailto:rick.tim...@abazander.com napisa?: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVcYBiAAoJEGW1xit1D3RXP1EP/0erqJN7WXurMnnpDxo2ZYIV gLs2i0cXGg6rq4cJawDWw6DZwLUBsRCABP+ZPlnfBJQn5kdIVbdx1IndkXKQXGDy QUsOZFXO35WYfnsYjyPJV8DsIlysyeUoOjcE8oqf187r5lPRhaCa+OXHmh3L3GJ4 WJSnzsIJ43J0vgWPK5PabQ5XjWlqLk5VpVdqcvR+zDN+U+YEAnQ1a/z98Y3uvGJ9 L5grFM9HPCfhyQJBvubR/XgjYvJr8z132UjXRwWon42PcPNgiJkATbK11ogrockh ssNy0EW7UkOsLocUC0GGC9TdsAQO60aohRWASOLlKjOKEsYvDT2p2KzMUwOSk0s3 2PykUQD8kR+3rvxoPe8GkdbpJsB7cHLL3avv1WhhZ3r1LiB5dy+711odKxIcMhEy rBhYR8Sz/UzOMkLjY1fH5407KeWBe3q6xr/tqfEJhGpH+/sWp53pNPK71hD+RQ4t 5GgEYUR+Yd31JAsYDtoKkoA7f5gBbo92geFHl8S0gVAkzWkvRld4K6feiu1X4YKh 19j2N4quzHCtG9/KoGKEhHU3rXTaAYJnyLHQsVjdrVA+CTONxFskZ9AENItoFIp7 s2lhWNRmUW6mPo3YOMlMVmyq9Uc/x8+xhVGddX4nlAPSyK2+WjCrXqahCbXyONH0 adKDfU2RWC+0aKcHtVVb =2ozy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
Are you sure about all of this? It's just a simple website right. At this point. Why get an VPS provider? It makes no sense. VPS is what you do if you want to build a complex website or a server that sports additional features other than the website. A place to run python scripts, do some background processing (or backend) a place to install an FTP server, and so on. Just for the website you just don't need it. The only thing that is something that is not always available with webhosts is SSH access. I would typically want that to be available. But then all of the other maintenance (that is not for the website itself) falls in the hands of the company you are purchasing it from. For example, this one seems fine: http://www.one.com/en/ftp-php-mysql-ssh-sftp Of course, being a software project yourself you DO want some ownness to it. But I think VPS is just too much, places too much of a burden on the volunteers. That is, unless you are planning to do much more with the website. (This one.com is weird though, it seems you have to register a domain.) Buuut, it seems you are already on the tract of getting a VPS. Take care though. Take care, and watch it. Regards, Bart Quoting Olivier van der Toorn oliviervdto...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey Kubuntu-dev, I have some experience with being a system administrator. Been a sys admin at my study association for a couple of years now. I'd like to help out :) Cheers, - -O.I. van der Toorn. On 06/05/2015 09:11 AM, Rick.Timmis wrote: OK, thats good to know Pawel. Once a server is setup, I can setup ssh keys, ( provided you've a known public key on launchpad ) I am more than happy to bo most or even all of the work, but need others to assist and be upto speed withits setup, so that I am not a single point of failure. So now we are 2 :-) Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 Pawe? Abramowicz pawelabr...@gmail.com wrote: When this semester ends, I'm more than happy to help. I have some experience in LAMP and LEMP stacks... And if no one would be able to personally ssh into the server, digital ocean has quite good tutorials for beginners on the matter, too (they can be used by sysadmins with http-only Internet access like 'do what they say in this article'). pt., 5 cze 2015, 08:29 Rick.Timmis u?ytkownik rick.tim...@abazander.com mailto:rick.tim...@abazander.com napisa?: Hello all I am afraid my company decided that they wouldn't be able to provide hosting, admin etc... The reason for this is because they are in the process of migrating between providers. However, as I mentioned in an earlier response to the post of a potential hosting offer from Digital Ocean. I am happy to personally share responsibilty for sysadmin and support of a donated server I would also be happy to install it as a lamp server, secure it and document the configuration. If there are some others, personally I think 3 admins would give us perfect redundancy, that would help work with me then I think this would work. Thanks. Rick Sent from my Dragon 32 -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVcYBiAAoJEGW1xit1D3RXP1EP/0erqJN7WXurMnnpDxo2ZYIV gLs2i0cXGg6rq4cJawDWw6DZwLUBsRCABP+ZPlnfBJQn5kdIVbdx1IndkXKQXGDy QUsOZFXO35WYfnsYjyPJV8DsIlysyeUoOjcE8oqf187r5lPRhaCa+OXHmh3L3GJ4 WJSnzsIJ43J0vgWPK5PabQ5XjWlqLk5VpVdqcvR+zDN+U+YEAnQ1a/z98Y3uvGJ9 L5grFM9HPCfhyQJBvubR/XgjYvJr8z132UjXRwWon42PcPNgiJkATbK11ogrockh ssNy0EW7UkOsLocUC0GGC9TdsAQO60aohRWASOLlKjOKEsYvDT2p2KzMUwOSk0s3 2PykUQD8kR+3rvxoPe8GkdbpJsB7cHLL3avv1WhhZ3r1LiB5dy+711odKxIcMhEy rBhYR8Sz/UzOMkLjY1fH5407KeWBe3q6xr/tqfEJhGpH+/sWp53pNPK71hD+RQ4t 5GgEYUR+Yd31JAsYDtoKkoA7f5gBbo92geFHl8S0gVAkzWkvRld4K6feiu1X4YKh 19j2N4quzHCtG9/KoGKEhHU3rXTaAYJnyLHQsVjdrVA+CTONxFskZ9AENItoFIp7 s2lhWNRmUW6mPo3YOMlMVmyq9Uc/x8+xhVGddX4nlAPSyK2+WjCrXqahCbXyONH0 adKDfU2RWC+0aKcHtVVb =2ozy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
Yes. VPS is not required for a LAMP application or website. My friend runs a webhosting business at http://milkhost.com reseller of hostgator. It has cpanel and ftp to upload files. I can sponsor the web space and domain name. Can help on administration too. Reply here for any help. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, at 13:28, Xen wrote: Are you sure about all of this? It's just a simple website right. At this point. Why get an VPS provider? It makes no sense. I'm a Kubuntu user who has contributed to Kubuntu funds and used Kubuntu since Natty Narwhal 11.04. I would rather see Kubuntu funds used to build a better Kubuntu than to pay for higher than necessary hosting fees for the Kubuntu web-site. I'm also a happy DigitalOcean customer that has long since stopped using web hosting companies to host my ever *decreasing* needs for a web-site. I've always found the cost of a VPS to be cheaper than a comparable web-host and I have the bonus of more control over access and configuration. If the Kubuntu team and the Kubuntu community can administer a VPS, I think it's obvious that it can, then a VPS is the way to go. Obviously the bandwith/download limits are a consideration here so a web-hosting company might well be the best option in order to to reduce hosting costs. Perhaps someone needs to look at bandwith figures before a decision is made? Just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. :) -- Paul White paul...@ubuntu.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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All I can say is that *these guys* https://www.midphase.com/website-hosting/personal-hosting-plan.php also have SSH access. It is not turned on by default, you have to ask for it, then they turn it on. I'll leave it at that. (This is the message I wrote earlier, it was rejected again because I failed to select the right address ;-)). Quoting Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com: Yes. VPS is not required for a LAMP application or website. My friend runs a webhosting business at http://milkhost.com reseller of hostgator. It has cpanel and ftp to upload files. I can sponsor the web space and domain name. Can help on administration too. Reply here for any help. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
IMHO the vps is too much. We don't need the hassle. We need web hosting with full access to our files. Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN a href=http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com;GeekAliens. Com/a a href=http://ro.kubuntu.org;Kubuntu România/a -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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Ah ha But I have a cunning plan, to implement a full community CRM system. Marketing, Press Contacts, Events, and much much more.. I set a Sick_Rimmit objective to bring Kubuntu from 28 on distrowatch to 14, by year end 2016 So a VPS, would help quite alot :-) Sent from my Dragon 32Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu@gmail.com wrote:IMHO the vps is too much. We don't need the hassle. We need web hosting with full access to our files. Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN a href=http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com;GeekAliens. Com/a a href=http://ro.kubuntu.org;Kubuntu România/a-- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
The problem is that it is another machine to administer in your mind. I have a website host myself, it is easy, all I need to do is take care of my own files, nothing more. With a VPS you run the entire system yourself. You need to think about what software to use, etc. Of course it can be done. It is just extra hassle. It is extra workload. I think it is stupid. Of course, your mileage may vary, perhaps you're a different beast than I am. Perhaps once you have a ready made configuration in your mind, an extra machine doesn't matter. But for me it does, or it would. I think Ovidiu is right in his opinion. I think the extra cost is neglectible. If a hosting provider asks 2 dollars per month, that's almost nothing. That's nothing compared to the mental energy you need to put into the system yourself. That's my point of view. I think Ovidiu is right. Full access to files. Ideally you'd have rsync but ssh is sufficient too. And working on a shell in a SSH is the qualifying difference. That can be had on VPS but also on regular 'extended' web host. You can copy files with scp, very handy. Much more useful than FTP. But all the rest is not so important. All these webhosts have the same packages. You just need someone you can knock on in case something is wrong, that's all really. At least, that's what it is to me. Regards, and I hope you will make a right choice. Bart. Quoting Paul White paul...@ubuntu.com: On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, at 13:28, Xen wrote: Are you sure about all of this? It's just a simple website right. At this point. Why get an VPS provider? It makes no sense. I'm a Kubuntu user who has contributed to Kubuntu funds and used Kubuntu since Natty Narwhal 11.04. I would rather see Kubuntu funds used to build a better Kubuntu than to pay for higher than necessary hosting fees for the Kubuntu web-site. I'm also a happy DigitalOcean customer that has long since stopped using web hosting companies to host my ever *decreasing* needs for a web-site. I've always found the cost of a VPS to be cheaper than a comparable web-host and I have the bonus of more control over access and configuration. If the Kubuntu team and the Kubuntu community can administer a VPS, I think it's obvious that it can, then a VPS is the way to go. Obviously the bandwith/download limits are a consideration here so a web-hosting company might well be the best option in order to to reduce hosting costs. Perhaps someone needs to look at bandwith figures before a decision is made? Just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. :) -- Paul White paul...@ubuntu.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
Re: Web Site Hosting
That would be different :). Still the biggest difference is probably that on VPS you would have access to multiple user accounts and more people who can access it using their own accounts. And you could have more of a shell server. Then you could turn it into a shell host for Kubuntu supporters/contributors with dedicated who and chat programs on board ;-). A message board on the host ;-). People would then use the system to come together and enjoy themselves ;-). Regards, kudos. Quoting Rick.Timmis rick.tim...@abazander.com: Ah ha But I have a cunning plan, to implement a full community CRM system. Marketing, Press Contacts, Events, and much much more.. I set a Sick_Rimmit objective to bring Kubuntu from 28 on distrowatch to 14, by year end 2016 So a VPS, would help quite alot :-) Sent from my Dragon 32Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu@gmail.com wrote:IMHO the vps is too much. We don't need the hassle. We need web hosting with full access to our files. Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN a href=http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com;GeekAliens. Com/a a href=http://ro.kubuntu.org;Kubuntu România/a -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
