Re: [lace] personal lace renaissance (long and a bit chatty), prickings and bent pins; OIDFA in Prague
Hi Julie, On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 08:10 PM, Julie Ourom wrote: OIDFA in PRAGUE And now I hear that OIDFA will be in Prague in 2004 and I've been looking for an excuse to go back to Prague as it's such a wonderful city, and I was planning to go to Europe next summer anyway... it's starting to feel as if it's meant to be. Would a novice albeit enthusiastic lacemaker be out of place? Is anyone else on Arachne thinking of going? Is it expensive (relatively speaking and given that I likely have accommodation)? I will have to start looking into this seriously! Here is another Arachnid who is going to try to get there. From early reports of the Council meeting there this summer, it may be that Prague may not be so expensive, but organising a congress doesn't come cheap, especially when you haven't got industries behind you who are willing to sponsor events, goodies etc. The Congress itself will be just outside Prague with accommodation on a University campus fairly basic, but not too expensive. If you take classes they will always be willing and prepared for people who may not have made that kind of lace before, unless they are labelled as advanced classes, so pick carefully and I look forward to seeing you there, and Tamara, and Elaine and everyone. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: jumping around
Hello Lorelei, hello Barb, You both speak from the deepest point of my heart. It is a nice idea to be a lace-frog. Ilske the lace-frog from Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: bent pins/pre-pricking
Gidday Julie, Robin and all, matter at this stage, but if I really keep going at this, I'm going to have to find a way to have better prickings with fewer bent pins. If you want fewer bent pins, you're going to have to break down and pre-prick. That's the only way to minimize bending brass or insect pins. I agree. I always totally pre-prick my patterns, and as I do a lot of fine Point Ground work that means sometimes huge numbers of pinholes. I still bent a lot of pins even doing that. I have found that the best thing is to think of it as part of the total getting ready package i.e. winding the bobbins, getting pricking ready, pre-pricking. What I used to do (before accompanying nearly-DH to South Africa meant a Visa that does not allow me to work over here..gee what a shame VBG) was take the pricking to work, and sit and prick during my lunch break. You can easily prick and eat at the same time and it then is wasting non-productive time anyway rather than jutting into your busy at-home life instead. I am at the moment getting my things together to start Miss Channer's Mat (or Miss Marple's Bathmat as it is affectionately known around our house) when we return from our wedding in Australia, and have the daunting task of pre-pricking the largest piece I've ever done. I will do it in stages, half an hour blocks I think as I'm not in a hurry and you can't do too much in one hit without getting a very sore hand. I also find that using an ergonomic pricker (little wooden handled one that fits inside your fist, rather than a pencil-shaped one) makes a huge difference to how much I can do at a time. If you do the pricking on decent pricking card and pre-prick, it will definitely last longer if you intend to do a pattern more than once too (not that I intend doing the Bathmat more than once!). I only use the contact-over-photocopy quick method for workshops or samples. Michelle an Aussie in South Africa, where it is light at 6.00am now and we are heading for some warm Spring weather already down here Ian Chelle Long +27 35 788 0777 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] jumping around
Hello Clay, hello everybody, . In Europe, lacemakers typically learn the lace that is traditional in their region, and they usually learn it in a very structured way, that is to say, there is a traditional course of stitches, variations, patterns, etc. Examples of the expectations are the Cities and Guilds curriculum, and the Lace Guild assessments in UK. European teachers are critical of American students, saying we jump around too much and will never be good at anything unless we make a choice and stick with it. I can't agree with this. My start was absolutly awful and around Hamburg there is and never was a typical lace. This could be perhaps for the people around Abenberg, Nordhalben or Schoensee. Perhaps also in the Erzgebirge. But the rest of Germany has no lace tradition. There are german teachers who are stiffy and think they had alone invited lacemaking but most of them don't. And there a more people like me who were fascinated from this craft and wanted to learn all ,all, all Then after a while some of us thaught that is wonderful to do the old things but we live in another time and we should bring this craft into this time. Then we look how and where and so on. But I can tell you to make the modern things you need the old skills. I would say each person should do what she or he think it's best for her- or himself. And now I must fell some bobbins in my hands or I became grazy. Ilske from Hamburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI conventions
Dear Devon, I am from England and have attended the last two IOLI conventions. I have been to a Lace Guild convention and two OIDFA's in Barcelona and Gent. Each offers different aspects of lace and lace making. I particularly enjoy the IOLI conventions because they are well organised and hosted by incredibly hard working, helpful volunteers. A wide range of classes are on offer from traditional to contemporise. The Wednesday tours, lace orientated or local sights are also excellent (even though I should be doing my homework from the classes). But perhaps also it's the friendly people (teachers included!) I have met, the majority of whom have travelled great distances to attend. best wishes Josie Chesterfield U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: jumping around
giggle-gigglePerhaps we need a sub-group. I hereby name Lorelei LF lace frog) #1. Did I jump in next? that makes me LF #2 and Ilske LF#3. ;D))) Now when we retro-lace we really rip-it, rip-it, rip-l-it Okay, Okay .. so I have not had breakfast only one eye open# ;-) Barb E Hello Lorelei, hello Barb, You both speak from the deepest point of my heart. It is a nice idea to be a lace-frog. Ilske the lace-frog from Germany - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: jumping around
Hello Robin, You must imagine a butterfly, who looks if it take live easy but take from everywhere the best it could get. What do you think about that? Ilske from Hamburg where it is raining in a way like november - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thank you SP
SORRY FOR DELAY BUT THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH MY SUBSCRIPTION Dear SP from France , (Britain?..I went to S.Michel and S.Malò 9 years ago, I visited better Normandy, but I did not make lace at that time: I did not know what lace was.only now I realize that is a great pity, because I lost many chances to see french laces, but one day I will go again in this marvellous places.) THANK YOU for the nice-very nice book about britain costumes: I study history of costume in my lace school, so your book is very usefull for me. and what can I say about the small bobbins: they are too nice!in my collection I had not so small bobbins! you are teaching near the ocean, how is the hot weather? here it rained one hour long two days ago, but the hot remained. I heard about the difficulties of old people in Paris because of the hot.I hope that our winter is hot too, but I think that it will be very very cold. thank you for your gifts again best wishes Alessadra Italy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] frogs
and Clay would be LF #4 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: jumping around
dominique wrote: new definition : arachne lace frog : a lovely frog with lace frills and a spider on her back sitting on a cobweb ... You've got to add, making retrolace Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] frogs
Indeed!!! ;-) BarbE - Original Message - From: Lorelei Halley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [lace] frogs and Clay would be LF #4 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Flanders and translation
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:39:21 -0500, Barb wrote: Oh well, I have learned a little, passed it on to many (some who have become much better laers than I) and am having so much fun. I want to get back to the Flanders, as there is a cat pattern in that Niven book, that is darling. (Boo-hoo no pic). Before you start that pattern, take a look at the Flanders cat in Tierisch Flandrisch by Inge Theuerkauf and decide which pattern you like better. You can see a picture of the cat pattern on my website at: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/tierisch.htm I have to declare an interest here: I am Inge's translator from German into English, so of course I'd like you to buy her book. The more sales she makes in English speaking countries then the more likely she is to continue translating future books. If one German lace author gets extra sales by using English then it's more likely that other German authors will get their books translated too. -- Definition of Terror: A female Klingon with PMS. Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Flanders and translation
Oh Steph...thank you, I think ;-). More decisions...and I thought that I knew just what I wanted to do. l will look into this book. It is about time that I bought a new lace book, It has been a while. I find this list full of the *most* interesting people Every day I learn something new..Wonderful Thanks, all BarbE snip... From: Steph Peters To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: [lace] Flanders and translation Before you start that pattern, take a look at the Flanders cat in Tierisch Flandrisch by Inge Theuerkauf and decide which pattern you like better. You can see a picture of the cat pattern on my website at: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/tierisch.htm I - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace stamps
The Professor has asked me if I know anything about lace stamps. He says: Tess: It's not so much that I'm interested in stamps as it is that they are considered important ephemera. The American Textile Association even has a membership category for it. I will put any images I can get on my Web site, although probably not immediately. If Arachne has anything along this line to contribute, I'd welcome it. If interested Arachnids send URLs of Web pages that have suitable images, I'll do the image fetching. Ralph I have certainly read the postings over the years on the subject, but it not being my primary interest I haven't really paid enough attention. If anyone wants to contribute to his web site with pictures or information about the many lace stamps out there, both old and new, he would be most grateful. Please write me privately. It's nice to know that we can do something for him after all he is doing for us. By the way, he also collects old postcards on his site, but I think they have to be old and no longer copyrighted (before 1923, that is). Just to keep you up to date, both volumes of Ricci have been sent to him. The first is on line now, and he is working on the second. There will be a slight delay on this one because he has to work on two books which have to be returned next week. These are both from Vibeke, one a Treatise on Lace in English, and the other a very long one in German by one M. Dreger, with lots and lots of pictures as well as text. Tess( tess [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace stamps
I have a large collection of lace stamps on my site already and there are a few others linked from those pages as well. Here's the address: http://lace.lacefairy.com/LaceStamps/LaceStamps.htm Lori the Lacefairy -Original Message- The Professor has asked me if I know anything about lace stamps. He says: It's not so much that I'm interested in stamps as it is that they are considered important ephemera. The American Textile Association even has a membership category for it. I will put any images I can get on my Web site, although probably not immediately. .. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ulrike Loehr's workshop at the IOLI Convention (v. long, and still only Part I)
Gentle Spiders, Someone wrote to me yesterday -- asking about the workshop -- and I realised that I'd promised y'all a report and then promptly forgot all about it, being under siege from family visitors... So here it is, a Tamara special (long-winded) :) ~~ The title of the workshop was Snowflake Quilt. The description of the course was as follows: Students will work a sampler of 6 to unlimited sections, using a minimum of 6 or up to 100 different snowflake stitches. The sampler may have different shapes or be 3 dimensional. Students should have experience in either Binche or Flanders lace and should be able to work with diagrams. Students who are experienced with PG laces and the use of diagrams but have not worked Flanders or Binche are also welcome A shoo-in, for me :) 1) I've always wanted to take a class from Loehr, almost to the point where the subject was immaterial; she seems to turn to gold *anything* she touches :) 2) It was a 24-hr class; if I'm going to travel and then spend oodles on food and accomodation, then I want my reward -- a solid, concentrated work-out, not a dabble. 3) I've never done any Binche, but I have done Flanders, and some PG, and I'm reasonably comfortable with diagrams -- even drew some of my own at times... I'm not into 3-D (or not much), but I don't *have to* make mine 3-D, so that's OK, too. So I sent in my application and settled down to wait for a reply. In time, it came; I had been accepted, and the list of supplies needed was appended... I don't have to make my sampler in cobweb-fine thread; Gutermann 100/3 is one of the options as the basic thread. Hallelujah! Being able to *see* what I'm working on might be helpful, when learning something rather new :) Some of the requirements aren't all that clear to me, so I get in touch with a German Arachnean who'd studied with Loehr, and she clarifies things. I begin to see, in my mind's eye, what it is I want to do. Thread (especially the fat one) is still a bit of a problem, but one Arachnean suggests something, another one gets it for me (what would I *do* without Arachne???) and I'm all set for my adventure. Saturday, August 2. When Betty Ann and I stop for the night on the way to Convention, I wind 20 of the required 36 prs in the motel room (had been working on the Arachne Spider up to the last minute at home). Sunday, August 3. On my way out of the sales room, with Toustou's roller firmly clutched to my chest, I run into Ms Loehr, introduce myself, and get handed two sheets of paper with dots arranged in triangles on them. I will need some sort of stiffer paper and the plastic film to make a proper pricking (oh, *duh*; why didn't I think I might need those? g). So, as soon as the pillow is safely deposited in the room, it's back to the fray, shopping for the missing ingredients. Back in the room, I finish winding the bobbins, and go to bed (in a borrowed nightgown :) I seem to have left mine in the motel in Allentown. Thankfully, my roomie -- another Arachnean g -- has thought to pack two) still appalled at the enormity of having spent *so much* for the pillow. Monday, August 3. Class starts. I stroll in, very pleased with myself, 5 minutes before the bell (8:30; at home, I don't even *get up* till 10) and get a somewhat fishy eye from the teacher, for being later than most. Thankfully, at least one person is *later* than I am, so I'm able to slink away into a corner (well lit g) with all my gear (lots and lots of it g) and make myself as small as small... There are 14 of us -- counting the teacher -- and we're housed in a bedroom, from which beds had been removed. That means that we have some natural light and a bathroom at our disposal. But we need tables, and, although requested, they had not been provided. Most of us have our own pillow stands/tables with us, but not all. And, anyway, it seems we'll need more than pillow stands; we'll need real tables before we even start on outr pillows. Ms Loehr makes her displeasure known to the management over the phone, and two tables appear. We're ready to get to quilting in lace. Er... not quite :) First, we need to decide which shape we want to make *ultimately*. Because (shades of The Beginning of the End g) the final result we're aiming at will determine how we start and the direction of work. So we spend some time cutting the sheets of dots in triangles, pasting them onto our pricking cards (and only one of us -- not me -- had the foresight to bring paper-cutting scissors and glue), and covering them with the blue. We disperse to our seats, each with her own pricking, and *now* we're ready to begin... - Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Light pollution
Just to change the thread slightly talking about people suing - we have a case here in New South Wales only yesterday, where a man sued a mental hospital, because they let him go, instead of committing him, thereby forcing him to kill his brother's fiance 6 hours after he was released!! He was awarded a very large amount of damages for this neglect on the hospital's part. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello all - Has it not occured to anyone that in this letigious society that all those lighted buildings and street lamps are not to deter thef, but to prevent lawsuits? This is the US (God bless!) where common sense in the courtroom is a thing of the past: for example the famous cup of coffee between the knees bizillion dollar settlement! Can't you just see the burgler suing the building owner for mental anguish over stubbing his toe in the building he has entered to burgle because it frightend him that he may set off an alarm and get caught? Someone please tell me that's too farfetched! And as far as driving by and seeing people inside, heaven forfend we should get involved for fear of getting sued for something equally absured as the above! Just call me cynical - Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where the weather has been warm (85-90 F) and absolutely gorgeous and the roses are blooming in profusion and the tomatoes are 5' tall!!! http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Light pollution
Oh, and I forgot to tell you - he was acquitted of the murder charge on the grounds of mental illness!! Ruth (Sydney, Australia) --- Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to change the thread slightly talking about people suing - we have a case here in New South Wales only yesterday, where a man sued a mental hospital, because they let him go, instead of committing him, thereby forcing him to kill his brother's fiance 6 hours after he was released!! He was awarded a very large amount of damages for this neglect on the hospital's part. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello all - Has it not occured to anyone that in this letigious society that all those lighted buildings and street lamps are not to deter thef, but to prevent lawsuits? This is the US (God bless!) where common sense in the courtroom is a thing of the past: for example the famous cup of coffee between the knees bizillion dollar settlement! Can't you just see the burgler suing the building owner for mental anguish over stubbing his toe in the building he has entered to burgle because it frightend him that he may set off an alarm and get caught? Someone please tell me that's too farfetched! And as far as driving by and seeing people inside, heaven forfend we should get involved for fear of getting sued for something equally absured as the above! Just call me cynical - Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where the weather has been warm (85-90 F) and absolutely gorgeous and the roses are blooming in profusion and the tomatoes are 5' tall!!! http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies
My son has a tree nut allergy, and they crop up in the darndest things. Thankfully, here in the US, all ingredients are labeled, so I spend forever in the stores, reading the ingredients on food for either tree nuts (almonds, walnuts, pecans, etc) or mushrooms (which tend to be hidden in the frozen tv dinners, in the gravies and things My DD2 is allergic to soap, shampoo, conditioner, deodorants, sorbelene, chlorine all adhesive tapes and Band-Aids as well as surgical gloves, or more likely the chemical they use to stop the sticking together, even unpowdered gloves. She now wears a medic alert bracelet so if I am not around if she had to go into hospital some one may twig that they have to be careful. She had a blood test yesterday and forgot to stop them putting a Band-Aid on her arm. Thank goodness she remembered as soon as she walked out of the clinic or we would have been in trouble. I accidentally forgot and changed washing powder 2 weeks ago and she has had to have nearly a week off school fighting off dermatitis. I just have to be alert all of the time. I know we're not the worst off, but it does make you aware of how much effort people have to go to. We were going to go to the Wet and Wild theme park in summer but before we go I have to find out if the water is chlorinated or if they use salt filtration. You just never stop having to think about these things. I wonder if there are more allergies around now or if we just notice them more? Cheers, Yvonne. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Humour
The Eulogy She married and had 13 children. Her husband died. She married again and had 7 more children. Again, her husband died. But, she remarried and this time had 5 more children. Alas, she finally died. Standing before her coffin, the preacher prayed for her. He thanked The Lord for this very loving woman and said, Lord, they're finally together. One mourner leaned over and quietly asked her friend, Do you think he means her first, second or third husband? The friend replied, I think he means her legs. David To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] book on ebay
this looks like an interesting book on Irish Lace, does anyone have any knowledge of it? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3546098226category=112 4 jenny barron Scotland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies
In a message dated 8/22/03 4:48:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My DD2 is allergic to soap, shampoo, conditioner, deodorants, sorbelene, chlorine all adhesive tapes and Band-Aids as well as surgical gloves, or more likely the chemical they use to stop the sticking together, even unpowdered gloves. My husband is also allergic to surgical gloves, especially the powdered ones. When he works on the car, or uses household chemicals that bother his hands, he uses disposable plastic food handler's gloves. He doesn't seem to have a problem with those. Barbara in Rhode Island where we're supposed to have showers tonight. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies
My DD2 is allergic to soap, shampoo, conditioner, deodorants, sorbelene, chlorine all adhesive tapes and Band-Aids as well as surgical gloves, or more likely the chemical they use to stop the sticking together, even unpowdered gloves. My husband is also allergic to surgical gloves, especially the powdered ones. When he works on the car, or uses household chemicals that bother his hands, he uses disposable plastic food handler's gloves. He doesn't seem to have a problem with those. This is the same for DD2 but if anyone uses surgical gloves to touch her she has an allergic reaction. The dentist used them when she had her braces applied and she was red from nose to neck the next day. Now he washes them off in a hypo-allergenic solution before he touches her and she is OK. Cheers, Yvonne. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Light pollution
At 10:55 PM 8/21/03 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: I dislike the *colour* of those street lights we have now... Bathed in that orangey glow, everyone looks either sick, or menacing, or both -- even your nearest neighbours. Heavens! You pedestrianate? Pervert! Orange lights beat the deleted out of those blue headlights that are coming into fashion. . . . At one point, the city decided to save money and cycle the lights -- some go out as others go on. All very well, but there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which ones go on and which ones go off... Reminds me of a horrifying sight I saw through an airplane window one night. I looked down and saw a dotted line: a highway with lights so spaced that drivers would be constantly flicking between equal intervals of sunny brightness and stygian darkness. No lights at all would have been much safer! Or if the light *must* be intermittent, couldn't they use low frequencies so as not to mess up dark adaption? Red LEDs are getting really cheap. -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where we had thunderstorms last night. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Light pollution
On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 19:22 US/Eastern, Joy Beeson wrote: At 10:55 PM 8/21/03 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: I dislike the *colour* of those street lights we have now... Bathed in that orangey glow, everyone looks either sick, or menacing, or both -- even your nearest neighbours. Heavens! You pedestrianate? Pervert! g I only learnt to drive 12 yrs ago, and still don't like it. I actually liked walking to town (2miles one way) and taking the dog for his walks. I don't, however, like walking for no purpose other than health (waste of time g), so now do it only when I'm getting ready for a transatlantic flight (my backbone and legs can't stand an 8 hr sitting spree without being strengthened first -- couple of weeks get me up to speed for it and being in Europe sure keeps it up g) - Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies
My daughter is a veterinary surgeon. After she'd spent five years studying at university and several years in practice, we discovered that, amongst other things she is allergic to: soap, the disinfectant used to clean contaminated surfaces in the practice, the powder in surgical gloves, the latex in one of the two brands of unpowdered gloves available in Australia, and, to cap it all off, animal dander! I was furious because the first specialist she consulted, a man, just looked down his nose at this petite woman and told her to find another career. If the patient had been my son instead of my daughter, I'll bet he would've made more effort. Eventually, she found another specialist, female this time. This lady has managed to come up with some very practical measures which at least make it possible for Alison to continue, albeit extremely carefully!, in her chosen career. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- A+Y Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My DD2 is allergic to soap, shampoo, conditioner, deodorants, sorbelene, chlorine all adhesive tapes and Band-Aids as well as surgical gloves, or more likely the chemical they use to stop the sticking together, even unpowdered gloves. She now wears a medic alert bracelet so if I am not around if she had to go into hospital some one may twig that they have to be careful. She had a blood test yesterday and forgot to stop them putting a Band-Aid on her arm. Thank goodness she remembered as soon as she walked out of the clinic or we would have been in trouble. I accidentally forgot and changed washing powder 2 weeks ago and she has had to have nearly a week off school fighting off dermatitis. I just have to be alert all of the time. I know we're not the worst off, but it does make you aware of how much effort people have to go to. We were going to go to the Wet and Wild theme park in summer but before we go I have to find out if the water is chlorinated or if they use salt filtration. You just never stop having to think about these things. I wonder if there are more allergies around now or if we just notice them more? Cheers, Yvonne. http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Lace that lights up - was Light Pollution
Hi All, Actually I want to send this to lace too because I'd love to see somebody make lace from this stuff G. DH has customized his computer a bit and some of the pieces are from www.beingseen.com They make sheets (paper size) and threads that light up. The whole thing lights up and it does need a power supply but he got thread about 1/8-1/4cm in diameter and laced it through some holes in his computer. You could certainly make lace with that! Anybody up for the challenge? Jane in Vermont, USA where the wet summer has brought out the most interesting funguses - one called Dead Man's Fingers is growing by the trillium in my yard! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Lace that lights up - was Light Pollution
This sounds fascinating!! But I couldn't get the link to work :( Our lace group is always up for a challenge. This could be the next one. Often we take one pattern and see how each person interprets it, or give every one the same combination of threads and see what each one does with it. Thread that lights up!!!--Neat! Carole Dublin, OH USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Lace that lights up
On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 21:04 US/Eastern, Jane Viking Swanson wrote: They make sheets (paper size) and threads that light up. The whole thing lights up and it does need a power supply but he got thread about 1/8-1/4cm in diameter and laced it through some holes in his computer. You could certainly make lace with that! Anybody up for the challenge? Mmm... I wish you *had* sent it to lace... :) How pliable are those threads? And what sort of power supply do they need? The website doesn't seem to explain much (other than sizes and prices g), but then they're not pushing it at lacemakers... Not *my* cup o'T, but but I *could* see one of those clever sculptures (composed of triangles of Binche snowflakes), that some people were working on in Loehr's workshop, made in those. The sizes are right too -- the fat thread is supposed to be twice the size of the base :) But where one would find 38 pairs of bobbins to wind with either thread in sufficient amount... - Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies
Question : how many allergy cases does it take before consumers start thinking : - food 'additives' - plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food - GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . . Toni in Seattle To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] roo whistles?
Hi everyone Barbara wrote: here in Central Western NSW we need all the night lights possible to avoid car accidents with kangaroos. I can sympathize, as we have a lot of deer, and potential for car accidents with them dashing in front of cars on the highway - I think 'roos travel more quickly than deer though, and you would worry a lot about hitting one, and who would come out the worse, the car or the kangaroo?! We put 'deer whistles' on our car. They are small plastic devices that whistle at a high pitch as the vehicle is at 40 kmph or faster - they do work as I seldom see animals on the road any more, while going along the highway home - I do see them 'leaving' - even little animals such as cats or dogs, and once the tail end of an awesomely big cougar. Elk (v. v. big ungulate), I don't know if the high pitch would deter them. On the part of Vancouver Island that is elk habitat and interrupted by highway, there are special fences built to keep animals and vehicles at safe distance. But elk don't bounce like kangaroos. I was just wondering if they (roos) would yield to a high pitched whistle such as the deer whistle. bye for now Bev (wondering) in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) The forest fire situation has become scary in interior BC :( To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] roo whistles?
I could really use one of those whistlesif they work on elk, I am sure that they will work on moose. As close as I have come a time or two to hitting one of them, I am grateful for my headlights and the rare street lamp. Mikki In Fairbanks Alaska where we are headed back to the winter dark, 7 minutes at a time...*sigh* | Barbara wrote: | | here in Central Western NSW | we need all the night lights possible to avoid car accidents with | kangaroos. | Bev wrote: | We put 'deer whistles' on our car. They are small plastic devices that | whistle at a high pitch as the vehicle is at 40 kmph or faster - they do | work *snip* I was just wondering if they (roos) | would yield to a high pitched whistle such as the deer whistle. | . To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] roo whistles?
I think I can answer both those questions, even though I live in the biggest city in Australia! In most cases, its the vehicle comes off worse in an encounter with a kangaroo -roos are often very heavy animals, and they're bouncing fast and hard when they hit a car. Many a suburban-city dweller, pottering along a country road, has written off their car because they haven't seen the fast-moving projectile coming straight at them in time to swerve or stop. My brother always fitted roo whistles to his vehicles (in the days when he travelled long distances on country roads). He, unlike my city-dwelling friends, has never had the experience of hitting a kangaroo - which would seem to indicate that they do work! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Bev Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can sympathize, as we have a lot of deer, and potential for car accidents with them dashing in front of cars on the highway - I think 'roos travel more quickly than deer though, and you would worry a lot about hitting one, and who would come out the worse, the car or the kangaroo?! But elk don't bounce like kangaroos. I was just wondering if they (roos) would yield to a high pitched whistle such as the deer whistle. bye for now Bev (wondering) in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] moose whistles???
Mikki wrote: that they will work on moose. As close as I have come a time or two to hitting one of them, I am grateful for my headlights and the rare street lamp. I dunno if the deer whistle would work especially if the moose was running headlong full steam ahead (akin to a steam locomotive) - how fast could one turn, at the sound of an ultra high pitch?! It would be better than nothing though (I guess? gee those moose creatures are BIG). -- bye for now Bev where there are moose in mainland BC but not on Vancouver Island, (west coast of Canada) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
