[lace] Sivewright and Pope cape
This is going back a bit to when 'that mat' was being discussed, and mention was made of the book by Christine Springett of prickings from the works of Misses Sivewright and Pope. I referred to the pricking of the cape (it was actually 'cope' in the book) and that there was no photograph of the finished lace. Ruth mentioned: On page 64 of The Romance of the Lace Pillow there is a photo of a section of the pattern - the photo is labelled part of a cope. Not having heard the word before, I'd assumed that a cope was a cape, probably to go round the shoulders, but I just happened across the word 'cope' this morning, and the definition given is priest's long cloaklike vestment. So the pricking isn't for what I thought it was, but that doesn't make it any less impressive. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] NJ IOLI convention/Stuart Johnson
Are there any attendees of the NJ IOLI convention that ordered the commemorative bobbins from Stuart Johnson? If so could you contact me privately? Deborah Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Roller pillows in the UK
I want to buy a round roller pillow (I can't get on with continental bobbins rolling around on my flat block pillow). I know SMP have one, but does anyone know of any other supplier who does them in the UK? Regards, Annette, London PS I dreamed last night that torrential rain was falling on London and the Thames was about to burst its banks. Even in my dream, I was wishing the rain was falling on California, on the fires... Is the situation there improving? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sivewright and Pope cape
Not having heard the word before, I'd assumed that a cope was a cape, probably to go round the shoulders, but I just happened across the word 'cope' this morning, and the definition given is priest's long cloaklike vestment. So the pricking isn't for what I thought it was, but that doesn't make it any less impressive. Hi Jean: Like you, I don't have a copy of Romance of the Lace Pillow so I can't comment on the photo. However, in Springett's book she only says that it is labelled 'Part of a Cope' *in Thomas Wright's book.* The word 'cope' does not seem to have been used by Miss Pope on the pricking, and she (and we) surely can't be bound by what an author chooses to say in his book! Christine Springett also says that in her opinion it is for a cape rather than a cope. Looking at the pattern itself, the lace is 11 at its widest point and the inside edge, which Springett says is to be mounted onto net, seems to be about the right size to go around the shoulders of a smallish woman. I think that if this were made up, it would make into an elbow length cape, with the portion from the shoulder to the neck edge being made of the machine net, and the lace part hanging down from the edge of the shoulder to the elbow or so. My Oxford Reference dictionary gives a second meaning of 'cope' as '(esp poetical) anything like a cope' and it would not surprise me to find that Wright was deliberately using poetic language, which was quite in vogue at the time he wrote his book. Just my 2 cents. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] CD2 is ready!
I'm happy to hear that CD2 is ready, and I was planning to order both CD1 and CD2, but the UK is just being hit by a postal strike. It's not in all areas of the country at the moment, but it is spreading. The problem is with post going through an area where the postal workers are already on strike, like London. There's no telling what route a particular package will take, and it could be delayed or lost in transit. Central London post boxes have been sealed so that nothing can be posted there. Managers are trying to do the jobs the strikers would normally be doing, but I don't think I'll risk putting anything in the post or ordering anything to come by post until it's over. Then of course there's another risk - some of the local morons in Bournemouth blew up a post box and its contents with a firework November 5th's still nearly a week away. Time the sale of fireworks to the public was banned, but that's another story. Jean in Poole - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: [lace] CD2 is ready! I have a lovely large stack of CD2s all ready to go.(I also reordered more CD1 for any who never ordered it and want it). Same cost as before: $10 per CD, plus $1 postage domestic, $2 postage international. For those without access to US Dollars, I have a PayPal account (paypal.com) which has worked well for lots of people. As soon as I receive payment, the CD goes right out to you. I hope to hear from lots of people: this is the one with both volumes of Elisa Ricci, thanks to Jeri Ames who lent it to me all during the long summer of scanning. Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), laying in stamps and mailers and sharpening her pencils! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Strikes, fireworks and copes
the UK is just being hit by a postal strike. It's not in all areas of the country at the moment, but it is spreading. The problem is with post going through an area where the postal workers are already on strike, like London. I ordered some lace supplies from Makit on Monday, and am impatiently awaiting them... but no chance of getting them until the strike is over. Then of course there's another risk - some of the local morons in Bournemouth blew up a post box and its contents with a firework November 5th's still nearly a week away. Time the sale of fireworks to the public was banned, but that's another story. Jean in Poole And Bournemouth used to be such a genteel town! I totally agree about the fireworks - they've been going off around here every night this month, it seems. What with exploding fireworks, a police car siren wailing past a few minutes ago (probably some moron has blown himself up with a firework) and trick-or-treaters ringing the doorbell every few minutes, it's not a peaceful evening - I've given up trying to make lace tonight! There were some copes on display at Alexandra Palace at the Knitting and Stitching Show - no lace, just a lot of ornate embroidery. Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] CD2 is ready!
Wonderful news Tess, looking forward to seeing it. For any Oz spiders who would like a copy and don't want to go to the bother of opening a Pay Pal account, I am quite happy to act as a go between and forward payment on your behalf on to Tess. You just have to send me your cheque or money order and I will bank it and forward the payment on to Tess. Don't forget to convert the US$10 plus US$2 to Australian currency at the current exchange rate. Tess will then airmail the disc direct to you. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] hello
I'm sure that none of you really missed me as I lurk most of the time, But it is sure nice to be back online. I had emergency surgery and was in the hospital for three months and I'm still being visited by the home nurses for the time being. I found so many messages that I simply took almost three weeks to read them all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Rhyming words
At 02:33 AM 10/30/03 +1100, David Collyer wrote: Garage is a most interesting word in Australia with 3 different pronunciations - none of which is garridge! Here in mid-USA, it's g'raj where the ' represents a schwa hanging on by its toenails, and the a is the sound we spell ah and you spell ar -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's a lovely day and I'm sitting inside. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Flo's pumpkin scone recipe
Hi All, Happy Halloween to those celebrating it today/yesterday! I was wondering if there were any Aussies out there - and I know there are a bunch of you :-) - who might by chance have a copy of Flo B-P's pumpkin scone recipe. I have 1 hand written one, but didn't label it as hers (very remiss of me if it is indeed the recipe I need!), and it has wholemeal flour in it. I have another recipe (not as good I don't think) in my high school cookbook. I want to make some for Sunday, for a family brunch gathering. Thanks SO much in advance - gotta run as I have pumpkin pie and eyeballs in the oven (the eyeballs will be going into a red wine sauce). Cheers, Helen, Aussie living in chilly (finally!) Denver To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Hospital
I returned home last evening, having had my knee replacement operation on Thursday last week to over a hundred emails in lace and lace-chat Jean in Poole I hope you've recovered by now. Were you in Poole General? My mother had a couple of operations there a few years ago, and it seemed a good hospital. But she's just told me that her elderly next door neighbour is in there at the moment, and he can't feed himself. So his daughter has to go up to Poole every day from Weymouth to feed him - it seems the nurses at the hospital don't do it. My mother is appalled - she was a nurse herself. I joke that the next time I need to go to AE I'll get on a train and go down to Dorset - to Poole or Dorchester hospitals. I'd still get seen sooner there than I would if I went to my local hospital! One of the students in my class (I'm an IT trainer) was taken ill last week and went to the Whitechapel Hospital. Even though he was lying on the floor shivering and being sick (there were no chairs), after 5 hours he still hadn't been seen. He gave up and travelled back home to Essex to his local hospital, where he was found to have malaria. We have no post in London, overstretched hospitals, and our public transport is falling apart - why do I live here? g Perhaps I should go back and live in Dorset! Regards, Annette in London To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] OT - icey trees
Hi guys! I just had to share with you what I see outside today - the coolest and prettiest view - especially when inside in the warm! All the moisture we've had the last day or so has frozen around the trees, and it looks lacey. What'[s really cool is that some trees are bare, some still have yellow or red leaves and some are still green, and they're all covered with ice. Each blade of grass is defined by ice, and it's really pretty. Even the 'mums are gorgeous - in bloom with their ice coats on. My neighbour has a couple of late roses still out (it's been in the 70's and 80's this month!) and they looked SO cool with their coating of ice around the blooms. I took a bunch of photos, so hope there's one in the lot that comes out. Happy Boo day! Cheers, Helen, Aussie in nippy Denver To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: icey trees
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 19:20 US/Eastern, Helen Bell wrote: All the moisture we've had the last day or so has frozen around the trees, and it looks lacey. What's really cool is that some trees are bare, some still have yellow or red leaves and some are still green, and they're all covered with ice. Each blade of grass is defined by ice, and it's really pretty. Enjoy! I've enjoyed the last two days -- back to sunshine and room temperaturess (68-70) -- but I've never lost the wonder/awe about the world edged in icy lace... We don't get much of it here but, if I were to choose my own version of Paradise (fat chance, given my beliefs/lack of them g), it would be short-sleeves weather (but *dry*, pretty please; I'm sick of humid g) 10:00-20:00, and frosty the rest of the day/night... In Poland, we used to get a lot of frost, but it usually came on time; after the plants had shed their flowers and leaves. Here, it's the same, though it happens less frequently; the premature frost is almost unknown... But, there's been at least one time, when everything went white with ice overnight (or black -- take your pick. The electricity went out, because the ice on the wires broke them g), and even the most mundane bits of it became a veritable wonderland... Happy Boo day! Very happy indeeed! It's almost time to turn the porch lights off (as it's 21:15), and we've only had two batches of looters. That, despite the fact that the neighbourhood seems to be reviving -- there are more children around (in the daytime -- riding bikes, walking to and from school) than I can remember in all the 30 yrs I've lived here. We used to have many more trick-or-treating visitors when it was all retirees! g At any rate, Severn and I will be eating candy for the next 12 months; I got ready for an onslaught which didn' materialise... - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Henry VIII's wives
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 05:01 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote: The participants get 10 points deducted from their total score for a wrong answer such as Henry VIII had 6 wives. In my day, you only got demerit points when you said Henry VIII had *8* wives (Henery the 8th I am, I am... g Remeber the song?); 6 was the correct -- and acceptable -- answer... It *still is*, IMO. In fact he probably only had about 3 'wives' - the only reason I can remember for one not being a wife was because Henry married his brother's wife which was not allowed so they weren't legally married. That was Catherine of Aragon, and they had the Catholic Church's dispensation (supposedly, her marriage to Arthur had never been consumated, therefore wasn't legal; thus opening the path for her -- *legal* -- marriage to Henry... when you're a head of state, a lot more options are available to you than there would be if you were a Joe Schmoe g) And I *bet* the second illegal marriage was to Anne Boleyn; the marriage with Catherine had never been properly dissolved (by death, anullment, or Church-approved divorce)... Catherine was still alive when Henry married Anne, which would have made *that* marriage null and void. *From the point of viev of the Catholic Church*. Which England was *not* following by then... I expect the 3rd non-wife was Anne of Cleves? He shed *her*, also, via a divorce (which, again, wouldn't count, in Catholic Church, without a permission from the same) and married the next one (Howard?) before Anne died. But the first marriage (to Catherine of Aragon) was *legal* (with excuses g) in the eyes of the Catholic Church. And, by the time he divorced her, England was no longer Catholic; it was Protestant, with Henry as the head of *both* the state and the church. So, from the point of view of the new! improved! England (and its Church), both divorces were legal (he granted them to himself g), as were the subsequent marriages. The arguments for only 3 of the wives being legitimate are *specious*, without any substance to bolster them. They apply different rules to different situations as suits; in the first case, they *ignore* the Catholic Church's ruling (even though it had been *the* Church at the time); in the second two, they *apply* it (even though it had been anathema *at the time*) ... Bending the facts in such a way has been commonplace both then and now (when you can get away with it g), but it makes the final verdict neither right, nor *true* (read Orwell g) In my -- never humble -- opinion... Re fireworks (in Poole and elsewhere) that Jean's mentioned in another message... I have *just* realised that we (in US) vote them in on Nov 4, and y'all (in UK) blow them up the next day... *Not* a bad solution, all things considered... :) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: Hello
Begin forwarded message: From: Clive and Betty Ann Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Oct 31, 2003 21:42:22 US/Eastern Tamara, Clive and I are off to Georgia early tomorrow morning and I unsubscribed to lace and lace-chat. I meant to put a notice on the list before the unsubscribe got through, but didn't make it. Anything really important and/or interesting, please forward on to my address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll be back on the 10th. Love, B.A. I'll take care of the forwarding; in the meantime, don't y'all flood her inbox with junk mail... :) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: Cruise control
I wasn't gonna do it... I post enough as it is, and I do not use cruise control at all; I don't *like* it... It's not *my* control, for one thing (would I be making lace if I *weren't* a control freak?)... It lulls me into thinking I don't have to pay attention...It makes me sleepy, because I am *not* paying attention... My miles-per-gallon, none that good to begin with (I drive an automatic; my single venture into driving a stick shift was an epic only Charlie Chaplin could do justice to g), droop (not a typo) even lower... I gave the feature a fair trial a couple of years back, and then forgot it. But... Clay's re-subscription to chat, after her trip to Alaska, doesn't seem to have taken (she doesn't seem to be exercised enough about it to *do* anything about it -- like getting in touch with Avital -- so this is not a complaint g)... The principles of physics don't seem to be violated (not that I know beans about physics; I've been sworn to never divulge the name of my highschool teacher who'd let me out of there with a C-, instead of holding me up for the next decade g)... So... If any of you use cruise control on a regular basis, perhaps you might want to consider the following: From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] A 36 year old female had an accident several weeks ago and totaled her car. A resident of Kilgore,Texas, she was traveling between Gladewater Kilgore. It was raining, though not excessively, when her car suddenly began to hydroplane and literally flew through the air. She was not seriously injured but very stunned at the sudden occurrence! When she explained to the highway patrolman what had happened he told her something that every driver should know -NEVER DRIVE IN THE RAIN WITH YOUR CRUISE CONTROL ON. She had thought she was being cautious by setting the cruise control and maintaining a safe consistent speed in the rain. But the highway patrolman told her that if the cruise control is on and your car begins to hydroplaned - when your tires loose contact with the pavement your car will accelerate to a higher rate of speed and you take off like an airplane... She told the patrolman that was exactly what had occurred. We all know you have little or no control over a car when it begins to hydroplane. You are at the mercy of the Good Lord. The highway patrol estimated her car was actually traveling through the air at 10 to 15 miles per hour faster than the speed set on the cruise control. The patrolman said this warning should be listed, on the drivers seat sun-visor - NEVER USE THE CRUISE CONTROL WHEN THE PAVEMENT IS WET OR ICY along with the airbag warning. We tell our teenagers to set the cruise control and drive a safe speed but we don't tell them to use the cruise control only when the pavement is dry. The only person the accident victim found, who knew this (besides the patrolman), was a man who had had a similiar accident, totaled his car and sustained severe injuries. If you send this to 15 people and only one of them doesn't know about this, then it was all worth it. You might have saved a life. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
