[lace] Interesting lace item on ebay

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Anyone got any idea what this is and how it's used? The seller doesn't know,
but says he/she's been told it's a lace making needle, and the
instructions are in Greek.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2359740333category=193
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or search for item number 2359740333

Jean in Poole

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RE: [lace] Interesting lace item on ebay

2003-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's hard to tell because the picture is a little dark, but I'm sure it's a
punch needle, probably for rugs (smaller versions are made for Russian
punch embroidery). 

Avital

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Anyone got any idea what this is and how it's used? The seller doesn't know,
but says he/she's been told it's a lace making needle, and the
instructions are in Greek.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2359740333category=193
19

or search for item number 2359740333

Jean in Poole



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[lace] Lace making needle?

2003-11-13 Thread Laceandbits
The only thing it reminds me of are the tools used for making either rugs, on 
this scale, or on a small scale for doing a fine, velvet like embroidery.  
But the photo isn't very good and it's hard to see if there is a 
needle/prodder at the bottom (it may be retracted as there looks as if there is a 
screw/nut).  

What would have been useful would have been a clearer photo of the 
instructions because it might have been possible to translate the heading.  

Jacquie

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RE: [lace] Lace making needle?

2003-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The heading says The Magic Needle. Really enlightening, huh?

Avital


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The only thing it reminds me of are the tools used for making either rugs,
on 
this scale, or on a small scale for doing a fine, velvet like embroidery.

But the photo isn't very good and it's hard to see if there is a 
needle/prodder at the bottom (it may be retracted as there looks as if
there is a 
screw/nut).  

What would have been useful would have been a clearer photo of the 
instructions because it might have been possible to translate the heading.  

Jacquie


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[lace] Exercises during lace making

2003-11-13 Thread Sulochona Chaudhuri
Dear Lace friends,

I think Age is creeping up on me :-) , I now find that I need to do some
specific exercises for neck and shoulders every so often during lace making.
I have been doing the neck roll and circular shoulder motions, but I wonder
if there are some more effective ones I could do ?

Best wishes
Sulochona
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[lace] Indain BL site

2003-11-13 Thread Sulochona Chaudhuri
Dear Lace friends,

I was so excited to hear about the Indian site selling BL and bobbins, that
I wrote to them immediately. But got no reply.

Has anyone had any better luck ?

Best wishes
Sulochona in Ranchi, India

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Re: [lace] Suse Bernuth

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Leader
Aage wrote:

Some time ago I saw in a German book a table runner (is that the word?)
designed by Suse Bernuth. It was with a pattern of grapes and wine leaves
and also with some gold decorations. I simply had to have this pattern.
Some investigation gave the result that it was represented on page 60 in an
exhibition catalogue named Suse Bernuth - Kl–ppelspitzen im Stil der 50er
Jahre by Deutsche Kl–ppelverband. The catalogue also included prickings of
some of the patterns, including this one.
And now I turn to you for help: If anybody has this book, can i have or buy
a copy of the pattern sheet with this pricking? If anybody can help, please
send me a mail.
I bought this book in 1992 but I'd never looked at the prickings 
until just now when I saw Aage's message. And guess what - the 
pricking she wants isn't in my copy either. I wonder if there are a 
whole lot of copies where it's missing. Does anyone have it? If so 
I'd like a copy too. Perhaps the Deutsche Kloppelverband could 
provide it.

Jean in Glasgow

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[lace] Re:Irish Crochet

2003-11-13 Thread JDBRANDAU
Dear Sharon,

The old DMC Irish Crochet patterns used dotted lines to indicate the 
general size the background mesh as well as the direction in which it was worked.  
You can adapt this idea for you christening gown project by working a swatch 
in the ground of your choice and measuring the size of the row of loops made.  
Transfer this information to your christening gown pattern in the form of 
dotted lines spaced the same distance.  As you become more skilled, you may be 
able to judge the size of the backgrounds by eye.  
Your swatches should give you information about your natural working 
tension too.  After finishing the swatch, release it from the background.  Measure 
it and compare that measurement to the pattern size.  For many Irish 
Lacemakers their swatches shrink a little bit.  You can compensate for this shrinkage 
by enlarging the overal size of each pattern piece by 1/8 of an inch although 
this amount can vary from lacemaker to lacemaker.  A garment project is 
different from from making lace edgings in that each pattern piece must be the right 
size in relation to the pattern piece to which it will be sewn.   
  I hope this helps you.  Write again about your progress. The lacemakers 
on the list are all very generous with their knowledge and interested in the 
success of your project.

Judith Brandau
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 

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[lace] Indian Web site

2003-11-13 Thread JMMAcademy
Hi  I have had very good luck with Rathie.  I am expecting my order in 
another week or so.  Just keep trying.  Hannah Moad

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[lace] Exercises during lace making

2003-11-13 Thread Jane Partridge
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Jacquie, who is fine while making lace except for the feeling that a knife 
that gets put between my shoulder blades just about where my bra strap is.  
Sometimes after half an hour, sometimes after many hours, and I can't work out 
exactly what the trigger/prevention is.


Whilst I was making a 3 wide Bucks insertion to go on the edge of a
pillowcase for my CG part 1, I was working up to eight hours a day on
it. After a while, I found I had pain in my right shoulder, and it was
the action of taking the pins from my pin cushion at the back righthand
corner of the pillow to their place in the pricking that was causing the
pain - of repetitive strain type.  I switched to using my left hand for
a while (not very successful!) and tried having a break for a while when
I could feel it coming on - I think it was the intensity of the work
that did it - I had a month to get the piece finished in. 

Tambour work for long periods (again a CG project) used to get me
between the blades, but at the top - so I learnt that five hour days
were my maximum. Honiton gave me pains in my stomach if I had the pillow
on my lap! (So I bought the attachment for my stand..).

It could be down to your general stress level at the time, if it is
coming on after half an hour on some occasions but longer on others. Try
changing the height/angle of your pillow, and don't sit for any longer
than two hours without moving and changing your position. If
demonstrating with a friend, try swapping chairs (you move, not the
chair) every so often.
-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Suse Bernuth

2003-11-13 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Jean hello All,
There was not only that book there was a seperate booklet with the prickings
with the title 7 Klöppelbriefe. The Klöppelverband made this because the
prickings are huge what means expensive by printing. In this booklet the
asked pricking is in. I still answered Aage.
Greetings
Ilske

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Re: [lace] Interesting lace item on ebay

2003-11-13 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Jean -

As with lots of things on ebay, the seller got it wrong.
I believe that this is a device used for needle-punch rugs.
The screw device on the business end allows the user to
adjust the depth of the plunge through the canvas, which
controls the depth of the pile of the rug.

Clay

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Subject: [lace] Interesting lace item on ebay


 Anyone got any idea what this is and how it's used? The
seller doesn't know,
 but says he/she's been told it's a lace making needle,
and the
 instructions are in Greek.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2359740333category=193
 19

 or search for item number 2359740333

 Jean in Poole

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[lace] Stuart Johnson Bobbins

2003-11-13 Thread Shirlee Hill
Could someone please give me the name/contact info of someone who sells Stuart
Johnson bobbins or can I contact Stuart directly?  I know Van Sciver handles
them but is there anyone else either in the US or UK?

Thanks ...

Shirlee

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Re: [lace] Exercises during lace making

2003-11-13 Thread Clay Blackwell
At a workshop with Michael Giusiana this summer, he often
corrected a student's approach to the work.  He emphasized
keeping your work centered in front of you, whether that
meant turning the pillow or moving bobbins more frequently.
He said this improved your tension.  But he also explained
that when we twist to get to work on the side of our pillow,
we usually hunch one shoulder in order to keep our arms at
the same level... and THIS is what puts that knife into the
back!  When I'm working my Binche now, with so many bobbins
on the pillow, I really wish I had a Christina pillow!! And
even though I know to keep the work centered, I often get
caught up in the moment and do the twist and hunch
routine...  so after a while my back is screaming!

Clay

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: [lace] Exercises during lace making


 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Jacquie, who is fine while making lace except for the
feeling that a knife
 that gets put between my shoulder blades just about where
my bra strap is.
 Sometimes after half an hour, sometimes after many hours,
and I can't work out
 exactly what the trigger/prevention is.


 Whilst I was making a 3 wide Bucks insertion to go on the
edge of a
 pillowcase for my CG part 1, I was working up to eight
hours a day on
 it. After a while, I found I had pain in my right
shoulder, and it was
 the action of taking the pins from my pin cushion at the
back righthand
 corner of the pillow to their place in the pricking that
was causing the
 pain - of repetitive strain type.  I switched to using my
left hand for
 a while (not very successful!) and tried having a break
for a while when
 I could feel it coming on - I think it was the intensity
of the work
 that did it - I had a month to get the piece finished in.

 Tambour work for long periods (again a CG project) used
to get me
 between the blades, but at the top - so I learnt that five
hour days
 were my maximum. Honiton gave me pains in my stomach if I
had the pillow
 on my lap! (So I bought the attachment for my stand..).

 It could be down to your general stress level at the time,
if it is
 coming on after half an hour on some occasions but longer
on others. Try
 changing the height/angle of your pillow, and don't sit
for any longer
 than two hours without moving and changing your position.
If
 demonstrating with a friend, try swapping chairs (you
move, not the
 chair) every so often.
 -- 
 Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Exercises during lace making

2003-11-13 Thread Anneke Reijs
Hallo Sulochona and all,

The best you can do to prevent neck and shoulder pain is sitting in the
right position when you make lace.
Your shoulders always have to be relaxed, so not pulled up.
When you hands rest upon your pillow, your lower and upper arm have to make
a straight angle. Adjust the height of your pillow when this is not the
case.

So relax your muscles, because when you put tension on them, they will
eventually hurt!
In the beginning I had to remind myself to relax, but after a while it comes
naturally.

Wishing you all relaxed and painless lacemaking,
anneke reijs in Baexem, in The Netherlands

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Re: [lace] Stuart Johnson Bobbins

2003-11-13 Thread candace
Lacy Susan also sells Stuart Johnson bobbins (www.lacysusan.com),...

Candace in central PA

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Re: [lace] Interesting lace item on ebay

2003-11-13 Thread ann DURANT
It looks as though it fits into some kind of sewing machine, as it has a
foot to hold whatever down.

Ann, in Manchester
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Subject: [lace] Interesting lace item on ebay


Anyone got any idea what this is and how it's used? The seller doesn't know,
but says he/she's been told it's a lace making needle, and the
instructions are in Greek.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2359740333category=193
19

or search for item number 2359740333

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Lacemaking in India (in addition to Sulochona)

2003-11-13 Thread etherege
Hello everyone,

Thought you all might be interested in this article about lacemaking (or
not) in India.  The link was sent to me by a friend here in Massachusetts,
who is originally from India. She, along with her young daughter, has
learned to make lace.  Here is the link:

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2002/11/28/stories/2002112800740100.ht
m

Of course they say that lacemaking is dying.  They don't know about
Sulochona  ;-)

Carolyn

Carolyn Hastings
Stow, MA USA

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[lace] Painting of Lacemaker

2003-11-13 Thread W N Lafferty
I have just updated my web page (link at the foot of this message)
to include my completed Russian tape lace lacemaker, and a
photo of the painting of the lacemaker I wrote about a couple of
days ago.

I look forward to hearing what you think of the painting.

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] Re: Lacemaking in India (in addition to Sulochona)

2003-11-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Nov 13, 2003, at 19:26 US/Eastern, etherege (Carolyn)  
wrote:

Thought you all might be interested in this article about lacemaking  
(or
not) in India.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2002/11/28/stories/ 
2002112800740100.ht
m

Of course they say that lacemaking is dying.  They don't know about
Sulochona  ;-)
What gets to me is how so many official descriptions of BL (of  
which the Indian site is only one) seem to suggest that lacemaking is  
all about *pins*...

I can understand it when my current cleaning lady asks: how do you  
know which thread to wrap around which pin... All she's ever seen (at  
best; I usually cover up the pillow and leave the kitchen when she gets  
there) is an *inert* project. The pinholes are there, as are the wound  
bobbins attached to the whole mess, so the assumption *might* be that  
you put in an inch or so worth of pins, and wrap the threads around  
them later.

But, for anyone who's *ever seen the process*???

This particular cleaning lady is the first one who, when told you make  
a stitch *first*, *then* support it with a pin, actually wanted to be  
*shown* how it's done (too bad I'm working with organzine, and pins  
almost head-to-head; she didn't see *much* g). She also allowed as  
she wouldn't mind trying to do it herself... We'll see; if I'm not  
careful, I'll end up like Sulochona -- teaching for free, and, at the  
same time, paying that person for *their* time g
-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace-chat] Argumentative

2003-11-13 Thread W N Lafferty
Tamara writes
In general, people don't like to be corrected, but don't mind so much 
being asked to clarify/expound

Reminds me of a little card I had propped up on my desk at work once,
when I was a persnippity teenager.

It said I love criticism just so long as it is unquestioned praise.

Has a nice ring to it.

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace-chat] Mother Teresa

2003-11-13 Thread Annette Gill
 Annette:
 well. not to get a flaming, bickering thread going but Equal time for the
opposing view:
 there are plenty of us in the world who don't have a high opinon of MT.
 Sue Ellen

That's so ironic!  I'm with you and Christopher Hitchens on MT, but was
scared of saying anything in my message that might betray that fact, since
so many people seem to think she was practically a saint.  I was so afraid
of offending anyone that this time I've been TOO tactful g

Regards,
Annette, London

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[lace-chat] google search

2003-11-13 Thread Helene Gannac
Hi, list!

I just discovered, by going into google search and typing my family name in,
for genealogy purposes, that some of my emails to this list came up in the
search!! (fortunately wihout my email address, it says Email protected) Not
everything I've written, just one email I sent to Ruth bean, and one when we
had the thread English is hard to learn The last one also has a series of
links at the end leading to other postings from other arachnes about the same
subject...
Anyone knows anything about that, or why it should be so? If 2 postings, why
not all? And why any of them at all, since this is supposed to be a
subscription list, therefore not open to the public?
I'm not so much worried as intrigued by this, and would love to hear from those
who know...
Yours in lace,


=
Helene, the froggy from Melbourne


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[lace-chat] Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Laceandbits
I have moved my comments to chat as they are no longer at all lace related.

My partner is colour blind, and is the first person I had ever met who is.  
His affliction doesn't work at all as I had always thought of colour 
blindness - if I'd thought of it much at all.  

I suppose if I had wondered about it, it would have been in relation to 
interesting problems such as if someone can't see the difference between red and 
green, what do they see?  Do they both look red, or both green, or brown which 
is what you get if you mix them - in which case surely they'd be red/ 
green/brown colour blind.

Any way, so long as colours are bright and clear he can see them all.  Where 
his problems start are with more subtle borders.  He has a global dark 
colour which covers black, dark grey, brown, blue, red and green.  This means he 
doesn't have a clue which is his navy suit and which is the grey.  In fact, he 
thought they were the same colour (dark).  He can tell if his socks are pairs 
or not, so he must see a difference between black and navy, but still can't see 
navy as a blue.  I guess this is like the back and white television thing.

At the other end he can't see very pale colours as different from white, 
particularly pink.  This has to be a definite colour before he can see it.  We 
also have some conversations at cross purposes when, for example, I am talking 
green and he is talking brown but this only happens when it is khaki/olive green 
so I can understand where his confusion is.  However, he would probably 
maintain that they are really khaki/olive brown as he can see them as clearly 
different from emerald green.

Since I have known him I have found out there are actually a lot of men who 
have this colour blindness at the edges - often not as strongly as Richard but 
the is it pink or white especially seems to ring true with quite a lot of 
men.

Jacquie

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[lace-chat] Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Nathan
DH isn't colour blind, but to him there's no such colour as turquoise - it's
either blue or green. He won't necessarily agree with me that a particular
shade/hue of turquoise is leaning towards blue or towards green. I'll say a
colour is a greeny turquoise, he'll say it's blue. Then another shade that I
say is another greeny turquoise, he'll say is green. To me, there's no logic
in what he sees.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Karen Butler
As well as traffic lights on roundabouts in the UK,  there is also the magic
roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
and anticlockwise direction.

And just in case you don't believe me or understand , there's a picture at
http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm

Karen in Coventry, who is about to go and teach children how to make lace
snakes.

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Re: [lace-chat] closet weight-training lacemakers

2003-11-13 Thread Margery Allcock
Liz said:
Avital, 5'0 is only scary if it is your waist measurement

and Avital said:

Or my shoe size
  Sasquatch-ital

But Avital, if you have five feet, who cares what size they are?  That's
scary!  LOL!

Margery.


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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra roads

2003-11-13 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Helen  Noelene and all,

But by getting lost there, one can discover some wonderful little 'gems'
we ended up on the grounds of ANU (Australia National Uni), and
discovered a little museum in a very early pioneer's house.

Except that when you ARE trying to find that gorgeous little house, you
can't!  We drove around those roads with street directory on lap 3 times
before we discovered that the road on the map that went supposedly across
the main road, actually went underneath it instead.  Luckily it was worth
the effort as my then-DH was not impressed at all the trouble I was putting
him through just to see some girly rubbish!

You really can't call yourself a good navigator until you've been lost in
Canberra (or Croydon obviously!).

Michelle
an Aussie living in Richards Bay, South Africa
26C today and just perfect


Ian  Chelle Long
+27 35 788 0777

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[lace-chat] Canberra roads - Swindon

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Peach
Reading all your messages about Canberra, I lived there till 1973,
had no problems getting around.  Then in 1999 I went back, I tried to get
to the new Parliament, never got there could see the New Parliament 
Building but just did not have a clue how to find the road to it.
I would have loved to have gone inside as I had on occasions worked at
the old parliament. I tried to find the street I lived in Watson, 
all the roads had changed, never got there.  I did eventually manage 
to find the suburb of Aranda, even found the house we lived in
in Aranda.  I did not have a map and being on my own.  I did stop 
and ask people, they did not know either. I did manage to get down 
to the Cotter, and then to Tidbinbilla Tracking Station where my DH 
used to work, this time though I went with a friend otherwise I some 
how don't think I would have got there.

Oh that small cottage, we went there when the children were young. Now
where are the photos we took?

My DH won't go to Swindon because of all those mini-roundabouts.

Jean in Newbury

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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Jane Partridge
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karen Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
and anticlockwise direction.
We've got one in Tamworth, too - they've tried all sorts of things with
it over the years, but the present solution seems to work.  It's known
as The Egg - basically because the central island is egg shaped. When
they built the mini islands, it became a somewhat scrambled egg!
-- 
Jane Partridge

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
To my Secret Pal,

Well what a lovely surprise.   We had a note thro' the door that there was a
package to be picked up at the Post Office, so off I toddled, and I was
thrilled when I opened it.

The sweets were a treat - they didn't do the diabetes any harm, as we had our
three grandchildren with us for the weekend, and they were very helpful in
getting rid of them!They really were delicious, as they children can also
testify!

I loved the notepaper - almost too good to use!   The keyring was a delight
too, so that has my house keys on it already, and the bobbins will be wound
for the lace for my daughter-in-law's father's surplice - he is being ordained
a permanent deacon in July and, although I have known about this for two
years, the lace is still in my mind, not on the pillow!So - I shall now
use the bobbins, and get cracking.

Thanks once again - you are so generous.

Carol

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Re: [lace-chat] Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
Margery, Dominique et al,

There have been sightings in the Peak District in the UK too - up around the
Snake Pass and the Kinder Scout areas.  They give one quite a shock, and
no-one really sems to know where they originally came from - they have been
there for upwards of fifty years, but the nearest zoo used to be in
Manchester, so if they'd come from there, they'd had quite a journey!

Carol - in East Anglia, UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south

2003-11-13 Thread Judy
 Now Adelaide...that's another matter   A planned city, with nice
straight
 roads planned on a grid - impossible to get lost there!!


The town where I went to university is also on a grid system and I thought
it was the easiest place in the world to navigate,  until I dated a young
man who said he was always lost.I began to question his directional
abilities at that point because not only were the streets on a grid, the
east-west streets were numerical, and the north-south streets were
alphabetical!

And because the city was in the midst of a large agricultural area, the
major streets were generally a mile apart, based on the old section lines.
(A 'section' is one square mile or 640 acres.)  Even in the huge city where
I now live, the major streets in my suburbs are mostly one mile apart, again
because of the old section lines.  Where my house now sits was a rice field
less than 25 years ago.

Judy, waiting for the cold front in Houston
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Re: [lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Oh!  I know it well!!!   It was the first time I'd heard of magic roundabouts,
and I didn't believe it could work at all!!!I vowed to avoid the magic at
all costs, but the day came when I found myself entering the dratted thing and
the only way to go was onwards!   

The next day, I was talking to an elderly couple about the differences between
driving in Australia or driving in England, and I mentioned that roundabout -
and the dear old lady said:  I've got the ideal way to cope it, I just close
my eyes!So I asked her, did she drive?   Oh No!  my husband does that!

Which didn't help me much at all, because I was driving on my own!!   I finally
decided they just take a little practice, but there's no way an Australian will
believe they work - most roundabouts out here tend to be about 10 - 15' across,
and I suspect the give way to the right rule no longer exists, so they just
can't envisage it at all.

There's another one at St. Albans, took my DH there a couple of years ago, just
to show off to him!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
 --- Karen Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  As well as traffic
lights on roundabouts in the UK,  there is also the magic
 roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
 ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
 and anticlockwise direction.
 
 And just in case you don't believe me or understand , there's a picture at
 http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm
 
 Karen in Coventry, who is about to go and teach children how to make lace
 snakes.


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[lace-chat] Re: colour blindness etc.

2003-11-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Nov 13, 2003, at 19:56 US/Eastern, sharon wrote:

When I was in art college (gods, was it really 40 yrs ago?) [...]
We were told that with interior decorating one must *never, ever*, use 
purple.  Purple was considered a colour that encouraged depression and 
suicide.  Interesting eh?
I never went to art school, never did much art, except for the 
compulsory once-a-week drawing class in primary and high school, but I 
*do* find most shades of purple depressing and avoid it like a plague. 
I do have some purples in my thread stash, but that's because much of 
my lacework is for gifts, and so many people seem to favour and request 
it.

It doesn't make me *suicidal*(only Gregorian chants have that power 
g), but it sure saps all my will to continue living :) My Mother once 
made a purple dress for me (in the days when fabric was hard to find, 
so you bought what happened to be available) and I could never stop 
shivering whenever I wore it; I was always *cold* in it (despite its 
bright-gold buttons), my face would acquire the same (dead) purple 
hue... I experimented, one more time, some 30 yrs later, with lilac -- 
a lovely a piece of silk my stepson's wife gave me. I spent much more 
time making that dress than wearing it -- once was all I wore it, and I 
felt ill throughout the party.

I never could quite understand the aversion, since it's not a truly 
cold colour (I don't, particularly, like cold colours, with the 
exception of a few shades), but I'm pragmatic enough to accept what 
*is*, whatever the reason...

T, expecting a lot of flak once the fan pattern is published in the 
next IOLI Bulletin; I used 4 shades of green, and called 2 of them 
warm... :)
-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread donlynn
Well the Wallabies in the forest of France has hit the local news.  It was
just shown as a highlighted story for tonight's edition.  Perhaps they
include a few of the now almost extinct species missing from the bush.  I
wonder if the Australian government would allow them to emigrate back to
their homeland.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

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[lace-chat] Canberra

2003-11-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
That small cottage in Canberra is called Blundell's Cottage, I believe, and
is from the very early settlement days.  It is on the banks, now, of Lake
Burley Griffin.
When Helen  I went there, many, many years ago, there was a little old man
looking after it, and he showed us some old needleworking tools, etc, and he
got them from Nerilla's Antiques. Many Oz lacemakers will remember Nerilla,
who sadly has passed on, now.
She was invited to be guest speaker at the Melbourne Lace Days, on a regular
basis, and brought with her, from Sydney, where she lived, some of her
tools, needlework gizmos etc.   Her talks were just SO entertaining, and
informative.  She also had a stall where we could buy some of her small
antique tools.  She is sadly missed.
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] Roundabouts

2003-11-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thanks for the link to the picture, Karen.
I am just glad they don't have something like that here in Melbourne!
What a nightmare to navigate!!

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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