Re: [lace] Myth or Mystery - Hollies exhibition and extra Visitors' Trophy

2004-06-25 Thread Jean Leader
Jane Partridge wrote:
Myth or Mystery at The Hollies. The Hollies will be open on the
following Saturdays: 24 July, 31 July, 7 August, 14 August, 21 August
and 28 August from 10am to 5pm. Visitors can vote for a Visitors' Trophy
to be awarded to those exhibits on display at The Hollies.
I'd just like to make clear that the Myth or Mystery exhibition at 
The Hollies will also be open during the week:

Monday to Thursday: 10.00 am to 3.00 pm by appointment only - please 
phone (01384 390739) or e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to make 
arrangements.

Friday: 10.00 am to 3.00 pm - no appointment needed but groups over 
five in number are asked to contact The Hollies in advance.

Jean
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[lace] visit

2004-06-25 Thread Diana Smith
As you may have guessed by now the visit will be after lunch.
See yaa
Diana

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[lace] Re: book from VA-Museum

2004-06-25 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hallo,
Just to let you know the german lacers get the book finally too. I got 
mine this morning from B. Fay. I had a long talk with them in tönder 
therefore i know that it wasn't easy to get this book.
Hope you could share my joy.
Greetings from stormy, stormy Hamburg in Germany
Ilske

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[lace] Wrong message

2004-06-25 Thread Diana Smith
I must apologise to everyone on the list for the message I sent earlier
which was a private mail to a friend with a similar addy.
I will add as an excuse that I celebrated my 60th birthday yesterday - I
rest my case!!
Diana on a warm sunny evening in Northamptonshire

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[lace] Significance of Wedding Aprons in Eastern Europe

2004-06-25 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lace History Buffs,

To understand why lace might be used on European wedding aprons, it is 
interesting to study the attire of women on that continent for centuries - going 
back 20,000 years or so.  First, there were the string skirts - not skirts as we 
know them, but panels of string (tiny, and shaped like aprons) that were tied 
around the woman so they covered the center part of her backside.  Makes no 
sense to us that they would cover the back and not the front, but that is 
apparently what they did.  (In time, more materials were used to cover more of her.) 
  These string skirts can be seen on small carved figures of women in 
museum collections.  

It is difficult to summarize the evolution of these garments into wedding 
aprons, but I will briefly attempt to give you an impression of what appears to 
have happened through the centuries.

Skip quite a few thousand years to the beginning of weaving, and the 
archeologists claim that flat (ungathered) aprons were worn - covering the backside 
(implying a connection to the string skirt).  There was a connection to 
fertility, and an apron ceremony when a teenaged girl contemplated marriage.  During 
a female's fertile years, she wore this garment. 

In time, women wore aprons also in the front - to protect organs that were 
connected with fertility.  By then, they were weaving patterns that had symbolic 
meanings, adding fringes and tassels and other objects to deflect the evil 
eye.  In more time,  embroidery was added.  Every element of that embroidery had 
a symbolic meaning.

More centuries, and lace developed.  At first, not allowed for any women but 
the most royal personages.  Eventually, it was added by many people to 
ceremonial clothing - used for christenings, weddings, etc.  If you look at the 
design elements in laces of Eastern Europe, you can connect them to the 
embroidered design elements.  

These fascinating and talented people, with centuries of historic influence 
behind them, still wear the costumes of their regions, and can tell by looking 
at a woman in costume exactly where she is from.  In many cases, the meanings 
of various costume parts are not known by contemporary women - they are simply 
attributed to tradition.  An important piece of attire is still the wedding 
apron.

So - the apron is not first thought of in the same way as Western women have 
for many years - as an inexpensive garment to protect a more expensive and 
more difficult-to-clean one.

Back in May 2003, I recommended, and still do:  Folk Dress in Europe and 
Anatolia - Beliefs about Protection and Fertility edited by Linda Welters, 
published by Berg Oxford/New York, ISBN 1-85973-287-0 (paper) 1999, cost $20 U.S.  
The textbook style may be too serious for your current research, but I think 
it is nice to have books written by fine scholars.

Copies of 4 chapters in this book are winging their way to Devon for her 
research on this subject, because I think that she will have a lot of lace lore to 
add to the Wedding Apron research.

The Lace Fairy has just arrived for a visit.  Must go and have some fun with 
her.  We think we'll fly around the orchard and admire the wildflowers!

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center   

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[lace] Flanders meshes

2004-06-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Spiders
I've finally got broadband up and running so have been surfing around 
without thinking about the 'phone bill!  Mostly from some of the links 
on my own website, and I found Jo Falkink-Pol's Flanders mesh 
Generator.

It's Flanders ground (cane-ground or rose-ground with just one pinhole 
in the middle of each block) and you can choose half stitch, cloth 
stitch, cloth  twist etc for each stitch sequence and the diagram 
updates itself to show the individual thread movements.  Wonderful for 
drawing working diagrams.

Do have a look at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grond-EN.html
Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace] Another connection to early tape laces

2004-06-25 Thread Patty Dowden
In reply to Lorelei's very astute observations about tape laces,  I have 
also noted the very early ten stick curlicues in the Milanese-Flemish 
laces.  The connection I made was with the Punto Fiandra from Italy, which 
works a three pair braid with knotted picots.  The Italians wouldn't have 
pulled the term Fiandra out of thin air.  I believe the reference is to the 
ten stick designs.

Lace is a never ending story.
Patty Dowden
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[lace] RE:masters thesis

2004-06-25 Thread Helen Bell
It may not be in their catalogue yet if it is still sitting in a
workroom waiting to be catalogued.  Don't know about Uni libraries here,
but I know in Oz, it's not uncommon for there to be backlogs - sometimes
substantial ones.

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver

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[lace-chat] Scottish Humour

2004-06-25 Thread David Collyer
A Scotsman applied for admission to the NY City Police Force. The inspector
glared at him and asked, 'How would you disperse a large unruly crowd '
'Weel replied the Scotsman, I'm no too sure how ye do it here in NY , but in
Aberdeen we just pass the hat around , and they soon begin to shuffle off'
David in Ballarat
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Re: [lace-chat] Scottish Humour

2004-06-25 Thread Scotlace
David  That one came out of the ark :-)  Such jokes about Aberdonians are 
legendary - and are invented by Aberdonians.  

Patricia in Wales but formerly in Aberdeen.
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[lace-chat] Church Bulletin Bloopers

2004-06-25 Thread Wildgun004smate
1. The Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles and other items to be 
recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

2. Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10. All ladies are 
invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S. is done.

3. The pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would 
lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sunday morning.

4. Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM. Please use the 
back door.

5. The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will 
sing, 'Break Forth Into Joy.'

6. A songfest was hell at the Methodist church Wednesday.

7. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.

8. The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church 
basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.

9. Thursday night Potluck Supper. Prayer and medication to follow.

10.The rosebud on the altar this morning is to announce the birth of David, 
the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Adams.

11. Tuesday at 4 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving 
milk will please come early.

12. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music 
will follow.

13. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be 'What Is Hell?' 
Come early and listen to our choir practice.

14. Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian Church. 
Please use large double door at the side entrance.

15. Mrs. Johnson will be entering the hospital this week for testes.

16. Please join us as we show our support for Amy and Alan who are preparing 
for the girth of their first child.

17. The Lutheran Men's group will meet at 6 PM. Steak, mashed potatoes, 
green beans, bread and dessert will be served for a nominal feel.

18. The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan 
last Sunday: 'I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours.'

19. Our next song is 'Angels We Have Heard Get High.'

20. Don't let worry kill you, let the church help.

21. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery 
downstairs.

22. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay 
an egg on the altar.

23. The service will close with Little Drops of Water. One of the ladies 
will start quietly and the rest of the congregation will join in.

24. Eight new choir robes are currently needed, due to the addition of 
several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones.

25. The senior choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys 
sinning to join the choir.

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[lace-chat] Tatted Bedspread

2004-06-25 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I could not get pictures of it. Ebay came up with Image currently
unavailabe in each picture square.
Has anyone else had this problem?  Why would they remove the pictures?

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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