Re: [lace] Laces for Judges
I had wondered how well all this would be received...or IF it would be used at all. After all we would be dealing with a government body...and we might have to make these in triplicate!! BarbE - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti . So don't waste time making lace for the women - make it for the men, they are more likely to wear it!!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[lace] RE: Judge Judy not alone!
At 11:33 AM 7/14/04 -0400, Panza, Robin wrote: . . . . Better make them all the same. And since it is the United States, I think they should be done in Ipswich lace, the only (as far as I know) definable American lace. Being the United States, it would be better to make laces from nine different traditions -- perhaps with British laces over-represented. And one of the laces should be an absolute mongrel. Does the Chief Justice get Ipswich or the mongrel? And would the Supremes actually wear them? Who would present the lace? [My spelling checker objected to Ipswich and suggested Pistachio, Ipecacs, and Piscicide.] -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/LINKS/KITTEN.HTM west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's sunny today and thunderstorms tomorrow. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!!
I thought of a new survey, it's of big interest to me as I am wondering myself. How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Irene Whitham in the middle of a mess, trying to get out - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Chrysalis/Batsford books - Further Steps in Honiton Lace
I've had a newsletter from Chrysalis about their new web site which offers 30% off al their books until Monday. In their list of lace books is Further Steps in Honiton Lace by Susanne Thompson with a web price of GBP 12.59 as opposed to it's full price of GBP17.99, but it's listed as ' This book is currently out of print and cannot be ordered at this time', so why they bothered giving the discounted price is anyone's guess. I seem to remember a while ago, an Arachnean was looking for a copy of this book, and I wonder if Chrysalis intend to reprint it. Why else would they list just two books - this one and 'Flowers In Honiton Lace' by Yusai Fukuyama - from the whole batch of their books which are out of print? Does anyone have any knowledge of their intentions? Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Judge Judy not alone/Salute to the Judicial System
In a message dated 7/15/2004 2:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who would present the lace? I think a delegation. The delegation should include whoever is president of the IOLI at that time (could be years from now since the project is so time consuming) or her deputy, Aurelia, any lawyers or judges who belong to the IOLI and myself as the reporter for the IOLI covering the event. I am really savoring the idea of telling people I won't be available because I will be in Washington at the presentation of nine lace jabots to the members of the Supreme Court. I may even start using the excuse now to get out of any boring obligations I have. Devon IOLI Lace Study Editor, looking forward to reporting on an historic moment in the history of the IOLI and the history of the Supreme Court. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows
From: Whitham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Let's see. Many of the pillows are just around here and there with projects (UFOs) awaiting my attention. These include: 1. 24 cookie with Cantu (from a workshop) on the couch 2. Monster all-in-one with floral Bucks (ditto) on floor by couch with its flat cookie insert; the roller and tilted inserts are on the dining room table (does this count as 3 pillows?) 3. large roller with Bucks in color (ditto) on the dining room table 4. 20 cookie with Tonder (ditto) on the lace stand 5. Maltese (never actually used) on dining room chair 6. medium roller with Torchon (for demos) somewhere in the bedroom 7. small bolster with baby lace (ditto) by the bed Other pillows I normally store atop a cabinet. I tie up the bobbins carefully so the pillows can be filed side-by-side, on-end, like books. Normally #6 7 are here, too: 8. French-style travel with Bucks (for demos) 9. 18 octagonal block with Russian spare block for above, with enlarged Honiton 10. 18 cookie currently empty (going to convention) 11. Swiss block currently empty 12. Fold-up travel pillow from SMP currently empty 13. 18 cookie (going to consignment table at convention) 14. 12 cookie (ditto) 15. large bolster (for needlelace) currently empty piece of Styrofoam with chameleon (from workshop--had to free up the 18 cookie) piece of styrofoam with bird (mother's UFO) Let's see, that's 15 pillows, plus two extra inserts for the monster all-in-one, minus two or three going to market, plus three projects on spare pieces And that comes to 11 UFOs (I didn't join that thread). Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Legal wear
My mother, a legal secretary, said this link would be helpful when I asked her what was the norm here in Canada. It seems this link is helpful for other countries as well. While it doesn't necessarily address lace(there is some mention in the histories), it does give a history of what is the normal wear. I found it rather interesting. http://www.harcourts.com/legal.html Karen Ontario, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!!
I have several pillows of ethafoam, covered with navy blue cotton, as well as several blocks and rolls covered. I have them in the basement, under my worktable, and the blocks and rolls in a plastic drawer. The 2 pillows I have(different sizes) have covers on them. Since they're ethafoam, I don't think they're is anything I need to do to preserve them. The rolls are actually pool noodles, covered. I made the larger pillow myself, using a box cutter to shave it to the appropriate size(rounding down the sides) and cutting a square out to fit blocks and a roller, then covering the bottom with fibreboard, covering the pillow with navy cotton, gluing that down, then felt on the bottom. Then I made a cotton cover(same fabric) and used a string to gather it underneath so if I had a project on it, I could cover it up for travelling or what not to keep it all safe. While I would love to have a 'real' lace pillow, I don't make enough lace to warrant the expense, and the ethafoam does the trick. I had bought, about 5 years ago, a 4'x3' piece of ethafoam, of which I still have a lot left. The balance of the foam is in my walk in closet in my bedroom. If there is anyone in Ontario who would like some, let me know, I'd be glad to share it!VBG Karen Ontario, Canada I thought of a new survey, it's of big interest to me as I am wondering myself. How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Irene Whitham in the middle of a mess, trying to get out - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Legal attire
Thank you Karen for this interesting site regarding legal attire. It not only tells the history of legal attire, something that will be needed for the accompanying documentation that Aurelia refers to, but is a company that sells legal attire. It seems clear to me that it would be advantageous to contact this company, or better yet the one that supplies attire to our Supreme Court and to buy a sample jabot to use as a pattern. No doubt the name of the judicial robe company would be obtainable from an administrative assistant at the Supreme Court. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!! (+ bailleul )
Whitham a décidé d' écrire à Ò[lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!!Ó. [2004/07/15 21:11] I thought of a new survey, it's of big interest to me as I am wondering myself. How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? i have five (two Le Puy ones, a large flat rectangular one, a round one from Toustou -my favorite- and a Normandy rectangular one with a roller ) I usually store them upright in their bag against a piece of furniture or between a cupboard and the wall except for the one in use which is alternately on my dining room table and on the sofa .. don't have enough room to build a rack against a wall and store the pillows horizontally one above the other/ ... dominique from warm Paris ...going to Bailleul this week end for their lace meeting . should be great .. Sof, i'll be at the table of Croise, Tourne! the group my friends and i are starting. I hope you'll stop by for a chat.. we're staying there on saturday and sunday.. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI Salute to the Judiciary
Fellow Spiders, Let me draw your attention to the web-site of the Supreme Court Historical Society http://www.supremecourthistory.org/index.html Perhaps a source of info? Perhaps a co-sponsor? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: survey of storage of lace pillows!!
I have 6 pillows of all shapes and sizes and it depends on if I happen to have a place in my office shelves to put them at the time. The office is the only place I am allowed to store my pillows so as not to clutter up the rest of the house. We have places for all our hobbies and need to keep them organized or it would be havac LOL! Pillows that are not in use are in the upper shelves of my office closet. Ones that are halfway in use(unfinished and waiting) are on a file cabinet or on my light table or glass table in the middle of my office. The one currently getting the attention, that has the beginnings of a Springett torchon fan, is on my wife's GGpa's antique piano stool. Works great and rotates when I want to G Nice survey, thanks :) Mark, aka Tatman www.tat-man.net Greenville, IL USA I thought of a new survey, it's of big interest to me as I am wondering myself. How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Irene Whitham in the middle of a mess, trying to get out - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows
Holy moly!VBG That's all I'm going to say! Karen Let's see. Many of the pillows are just around here and there with projects (UFOs) awaiting my attention. These include: 1. 24 cookie with Cantu (from a workshop) on the couch 2. Monster all-in-one with floral Bucks (ditto) on floor by couch with its flat cookie insert; the roller and tilted inserts are on the dining room table (does this count as 3 pillows?) 3. large roller with Bucks in color (ditto) on the dining room table 4. 20 cookie with Tonder (ditto) on the lace stand 5. Maltese (never actually used) on dining room chair 6. medium roller with Torchon (for demos) somewhere in the bedroom 7. small bolster with baby lace (ditto) by the bed Other pillows I normally store atop a cabinet. I tie up the bobbins carefully so the pillows can be filed side-by-side, on-end, like books. Normally #6 7 are here, too: 8. French-style travel with Bucks (for demos) 9. 18 octagonal block with Russian spare block for above, with enlarged Honiton 10. 18 cookie currently empty (going to convention) 11. Swiss block currently empty 12. Fold-up travel pillow from SMP currently empty 13. 18 cookie (going to consignment table at convention) 14. 12 cookie (ditto) 15. large bolster (for needlelace) currently empty piece of Styrofoam with chameleon (from workshop--had to free up the 18 cookie) piece of styrofoam with bird (mother's UFO) Let's see, that's 15 pillows, plus two extra inserts for the monster all-in-one, minus two or three going to market, plus three projects on spare pieces And that comes to 11 UFOs (I didn't join that thread). Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] judicial American lace
Better make them all the same. And since it is the United States, I think they should be done ... Truly American, hey? In that case, each must be a different lace in a unique pattern. ggg I'll volunteer to tat a jabot : ) S Joy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] jabots
Barb wrote: I had wondered how well all this would be received...or IF it would be used at all. After all we would be dealing with a government body...and we might have to make these in triplicate!! Is that one to wash, one to wear and one to air? g Devon wrote: The delegation should include whoever is president of the IOLI at that time (could be years from now since the project is so time consuming) or her deputy, Aurelia, any lawyers or judges who belong to the IOLI and myself as the reporter for the IOLI covering the event. Why the President of the IOLI? Isn't this an Arachne idea after all? Of course, if she is on Arachne at the time of the presentation it would be appropriate. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Chrysalis/Batsford books - Further Steps in Honiton Lace
Hi Jean, I was the Arachnean after Further Steps in Honiton Lace. You will all be pleased to hear (I'm sure), that I recently received a phone call from one of the second hand book dealers specialising in lace, to say they had managed to obtain a copy. So now, I have my own copy (instead of the library's) sitting on my lace book shelf. Even if Batsford republish now, it won't bother me too much - as my copy is signed by Susanne Thompson. Karen, in Coventry - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] jabots
In a message dated 7/15/2004 5:37:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why the President of the IOLI? Isn't this an Arachne idea after all? Of course, if she is on Arachne at the time of the presentation it would be appropriate. Well, I guess it depends on who is clever enough to recognize a good idea and support the project. I am sure we can get a dynamite delegation from Arachne if it is an Arachne project. As long as I am on the delegation I don't care whose it is :-) I certainly never meant to get caught up in any *jurisdictional* disputes. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Salute to the Judicial System
Interestingly, there is an American robe company which features several judicial collars, but all seem to be for women. They have a rather simple construction. You may click to see photos of them. I like the lacier ones. http://www.judicialrobesonline.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=showaccessoriesstore_id=J UDCFID=1723979CFTOKEN=12949383 There is an English Robe company that sells a jabot for 55 pounds. You can view it here with some nice tricorn hats: http://www.civicrobes.com/Pages/Robes/Accessories/Accesories.htm but, I think there is just too much lace on this jabot. It will take forever to make. In designing the jabots, perhaps it would be wise to take into account the individual tastes of the justices, since compliance with jabot wearing will be proportional to the amount that the judges likes his or her jabot. The women's news has some interesting comments about Rehnquist's taste in judicial wear. http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?aid=116context=archive This is a quote from women's news: Number One: On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, a big fan of Gilbert Sullivan operettas by the way, announced he and four other justices had invalidated a law permitting victims of gender-based violence to sue their attackers in federal court. Rehnquist, whose black robe is adorned with four gold stripes like that of the exceedingly pompous and self-important Lord Chancellor in a GS production, declared that gender-motivated crimes of violence are not, in any sense, economic activity. Food for thought. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Chrysalis/Batsford books - Further Steps in Honiton Lace
I've also had my eye out for a copy of that book, but I've not been aggresively looking. But it DID catch my attention in the Chrysalis announcement (I got a copy of their email as well, and followed the link...). Very curious way to do business, don't you think? Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was the Arachnean after Further Steps in Honiton Lace. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RE: Supreme Court lace (was: Judge Judy not alone!)
OK - you just lost me here! Not that I don't agree with you, but that I don't have any interest in working these laces. But if that's the concensus, then so be it. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Panza, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/15/2004 2:59:36 PM Subject: [lace] RE: Supreme Court lace (was: Judge Judy not alone!) From: Joy Beeson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Being the United States, it would be better to make laces from nine different traditions -- perhaps with British laces over-represented. And one of the laces should be an absolute mongrel. Torchon, despite it's name, seems to be a nearly-universal lace style. That could be the mongrel. Or some really modern freehand thing, not part of any ethnic tradition. This would be for the Chief Justice, the melting-pot-holder (that doesn't exactly come out right!). As for the others, the various point grounds are too similar to each other to have more than one representing an ancestral group. In general, I'd vote for peasant type laces over the ones used by nobility/royalty, in keeping with the Statue of Liberty's promise (Give me yourdowntrodden...). Skansk knipling for the Scandinavian countries, Idrija, Slovak, Russian, and what else? Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RE: Judge Judy not alone!
Oh! I ESPECIALLY like the Ipecacs suggestion!! But I must insist that while Ipswitch lace isn't totally stunning to look at, it's not THAT bad!! Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [My spelling checker objected to Ipswich and suggested Pistachio, Ipecacs, and Piscicide.] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows
This is my contribution to the survey: How many lace pillows do you have...? Well, I am afraid I cannot compete with Robin here. I am far below her posessions. Anyway, here is what I have: -1 long traditional Spanish straw pillow (from Cataluña, filled with long rye straw), with a typical edging from the north of Spain, from Camariñas, (with leaves, braids and roseground), for a rectangular doily for a friend (half of it already made). -1 selfmade long Spanish straw pillow, also with a Spanish edging, this one from Huelva in the South. It is called the pansy of Jabugo. A mixture or torchon and a kind of Bucks flower edge. It is not progressing easily. I am having problems in finding out how to make a flower in the border. Here we have no diagrams and have to find out how to work it looking at pictures of the finished work. - 1 cookie pillow (55cm diameter) filled with straw which I have lent to a friend. This is the most difficult one to store, so, lending it is a good solution if you are not using it. - 1 cookie pillow (40 cm), on top of books on a shelve, with a Milanese pattern. - 1 small Danish pillow with a narrow Tonder edging. - 1 small roller pillow with a Beds edging (I haven't touched it since last year in a laceday) - 1 big roller pillow with an edging which I got in Ávila, city of St. Teresa de Jesús, and the edging is called after her. It is not probable that she made it herself, but it was amongst her belongings; perhaps it belonged to her mother... how do you store your lace pillows? I don't have a specific place to store my pillows either. They are distributed among different places, in different rooms, some of them on a piece of furniture, others between a wall and a cupboard, others in a corner of the room on the floor... I try to keep them out of a possible accidental fall caused by a visitor or a family member. Soon I will have a new pillow, because I am going to make a bolster pillow to make a pattern from Carolin'a book on it. Though I am still trying to plan how to fill it with straw and keep the roller in the center if anyone has made a bolster filled with straw, please would you mind giving me some advice? Have a very nice summer lacing or whatever. Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] survey
Hi all, Ok here is my two cents. I have one travel roller pillow (I made)one roller pillow a little larger and one very big one that I made. I have a cookie pillow (the dreaded bobbin starter pillow) I put it into a wooden form (easier for me to work with) and that's it. I made them all, maybe someday I will afford one that I can get that someone else makes. :) Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clarksburg, WV p.s. I am no longer with AOL, but it is still me. :) Thank you Avital for helping me switch. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!!
Whne I moved, in 2001, I whittled the pillow population down to nine oops ten, I almost for got the demo pillow that I let people tryat least I think I still have it. Three, soon four, have lace started.one is the Danish with a tiny edging that I cut off one end and add on at the other. This has been going on for several years. ...(I took the Frosty Edge that is in Dori sSouthards book, drafted it down to 20/1 graph. Very pretty and great for trims little gifties items and miniatures). Other pillows go from a 15 sectional that I made (also made and 18 and 21 sectional) There are 2- 18 rnd straw, 2 -24..one straw and one foam. A Christina tops the list. The three sectionals are stacked under a cupboard.. handy. The others are in covers and shelved in the corners of the shelves in my craft closet. My dream craft closet that appeared, as a consolation, when thrown into living alone, Lo! those many years ago. BarbE 2 - Original Message - From: Whitham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:11 PM Subject: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!! I thought of a new survey, it's of big interest to me as I am wondering myself. How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Irene Whitham in the middle of a mess, trying to get out - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] pillow survery
Hi all, Ok here is my two cents. I have one travel roller pillow (I made)one roller pillow a little larger and one very big one that I made. I have a cookie pillow (the dreaded bobbin starter pillow) I put it into a wooden form (easier for me to work with) and that's it. I made them all, maybe someday I will afford one that I can get that someone else makes. :) Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clarksburg, WV p.s. I am no longer with AOL, but it is still me. :) Thank you Avital for helping me switch. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Legal attire
on 7/15/04 5:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems clear to me that it would be advantageous to contact this company, or better yet the one that supplies attire to our Supreme Court and to buy a sample jabot to use as a pattern. No doubt the name of the judicial robe Devon What? Defer to a lowly sales company? Shelve our own creativity and buy a commercial jabot pattern? Never! Our nine beautiful jabots, presented side by side in a long row, must be unique! (OK, unique but point ground) I have three committed jabot-makers so far. When I get a total of nine, I will produce the pattern. Meanwhile, I have been communing all day with the lace gods. Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Salute to the Judiciary
on 7/15/04 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? A co-sponsor? Never! Remember our lacemaking motto (created especially for our Great Supreme Court Venture) Forever Free! Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Legal attire
Dear Aurelia, I was not suggesting that we copy an existing jabot. It is simply the case that some people have expressed concern about the jabot fitting the neck size and such. Perhaps there are adjustable tabs on the back. My thought was to buy an inferior jabot as a starting point in the design process. This is how I would approach it since I have no idea how a jabot is constructed. However, now that I think of it, you probably already know how to construct a jabot so this step would be superfluous. Let the designing begin. I have to say that my tastes run to Point de France Cravats. In my mind's eye, I see a delightful confection with little scales of justice, gavels and blindfolded figures of justice contained within lush foliage... A small border of this at the bottom of the style of jabot favored by Ruth Bader Ginsburg would be sufficient. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: storage of pillows
I only have 4 pillows that I can think of, but 1 has 2 rollers. I have a 20 (I think) horsehair cookie (which I adore), and currently empty and living in my sewing room on the guest bed; A Margaret Tainton designed (moi made) travel pillow, with 2 rollers - 1 vacant and 1 with a boring piece of Anna magazine edging in linen; A 24 etherfoam cookie, currently has a UFO piece of beds on it, that travels between my dining room table, and bedroom when the dining room has to be cleared; A multi block (has the roller, 2 smalls and a rectangular insert), unused at the mo on top of a bookshelf in my sewing room. I have more cover cloths than I do pillows. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we've just had a refreshing and heavy rain go through after some very hot days! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Jesurum's grave
I have been doing a little googling of Jesurum and came up with this interesting description of his tombstone. portraits of the dead in low or full relief, in photographs and sometimes in mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved in stone, celebrating what the family had done in the production and international trade of Burano lace. in low or full relief, in photographs and sometimes in mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved in stone, celebrating what the family. This would make an interesting photograph, wouldn't it? Devon had done in the production and international trade of Burano lace. portraits of the dead in low or full relief, in photographs and sometimes in mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved in stone, celebrating what the family had done in the production and international trade of Burano lace. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Jesurum's grave-disregard previous
I apologize for messing up the previous message, what I meant to say was: Here is a description I found of Jesurum's grave while googling him. ...portraits of the dead in low or full relief, in photographs and sometimes in mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved in stone, celebrating what the family had done in the production and international trade of Burano lace. This would make an interesting picture, wouldn't it? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #214
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[lace] Lace Jabots
When we made the lace for the Melbourne Lord Mayor, it was made in a continuous circle - 4½ times around, I believe (or maybe 5½ times, I can;t remember). When the footside was laid straight, the outer edge frilled. This meant that only enought lace to cover the distance had to be made, not 2 or 3 times the length and then gathered. No gathering was needed, and the fullness on the headside was plenty. The footside was stitched to a fabric base in rosw across, then a step up (along the side) and across to the other side, step up, across, etc.this meant that both sides of the lace were shown alternately. I think the lace was 3 or 4 inches wide. The cuffs were of 2 separate layers, of the same lace, each layer was one full circle, and they were stitched onto fabric sleeves, that had elastic around the top, and came to just below the elbow from the wrist. The Mayor robes then covered the sleeves, and the lace fell out below it. So, Janice, - you need to make circles of lace, then you won't have to make so much!!! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows!!
Hi everyone and Irene (fun topic!) My various (= 14, almost all I have made myself) at-rest or empty pillows are tucked in spaces in my workroom. My pillows with work-in-progress are placed in the way, where I'll remember to work on them. At present there are two with w.i.p., a honiton pillow (that I made) and a small cookie which will soon be the test for a design I'm configuring from a graphic design I noticed on an industrial pamphlet (it was for a sludge extractor...)(oops different topic). The location of the pillow with w.i.p. varies, as I must have the pillow where I can stand up to work on it, near the best available natural light, or the floor-lamp Ott-lite, and on a surface where the required toys, I mean tools (no...I mean (*toys*) can be kept at hand, depending on the project. Then if some other lace design is more urgent, the one with w.i.p. is covered, and tucked away in the workroom where it can remain undisturbed until I remember it again. It really isn't a workroom, but a storeroom of works-in-progress, LOL! I did find that empty pillows are ok to stack on top of each other as long as you can wedge them where the pillow tower won't fall on you when you're rustling around looking for something else. My favourite way of storage is to hang them each in their own carry bag - except I've only made two carry bags so far - but in a carry bag they can be hung temporarily on a chair, or more permanently in a clothes closet on a coat hanger. bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] making a straw-filled bolster
Hi everyone, and Antje, who wrote: Soon I will have a new pillow, because I am going to make a bolster pillow to make a pattern from Carolin'a book on it. Though I am still trying to plan how to fill it with straw and keep the roller in the center if anyone has made a bolster filled with straw, please would you mind giving me some advice? I'm not sure what you mean 'keep the roller in the center' - but I will describe how I make a bolster. First make a cloth bag to hold the straw. Make a cylinder of sturdy fabric several inches longer than you want your bolster, and the desired diameter - I can't give exact measurements, but say for a 6-inch diameter pillow, make it 11 inches wide (to allow for seam allowance) and about 25 inches long, for a 10-inch long pillow. Sew the two 11-inch sides together with a 1/2 inch seam allowance. Then Hem each end of the cylinder, and thread a strong cord such as a shoelace through the hem. Use this cord to gather one end. Place a firm cardboard or light wood disk inside, so you have something to push against when you start stuffing. The disk should be just a bit smaller than the desired diameter. Stuff and stuff the straw (which should be chopped to 1/2 inches bits), compressing it as you go, and test the bolster frequently with a pin to see if it is firm enough. Keep stuffing (and stuffing) until, when a second disk is placed and the second end gathered shut, you have a firm bolster. Make a second covering which is also gathered at each end with hems and laces, and cinch it snugly around the bolster. This firms the surface even more. I'm sorry the instructions are a bit jumbled, hope you can figure out what I mean. bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Pillow survey
How interesting this is!! I have 13 pillows with another 2 waiting to be finished. 4 roller pillows which DH made the wood bases for and 2 block pillows made when first learning lacing and the rest are cookie pillows of which only 4 were purchased. I store them on a closet shelf. Most of the time. You see, when I want a pillow they all come out as the one I want is usually on the bottom of the stack. So the remainder get placed on an empty bed in the guest room where they stay until overnight company comes. Then they have to be put away. Those with UFO's [3] are here and there - usually in the living room or the dining room - handy to work on when the mood strikes or free time comes along. Jane O'Connor New Lenox, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take time to laugh, it is the music of the soul - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bat Control
At 09:01 PM 7/14/2004, you wrote: The third said, I baptized all mine and made them members of the church... Haven't seen one back since! How weird to read this today. Last night, when I locked the church, I heard strange noises in the library that turned out to be bats in the fireplace chimney. At staff meeting today, I reported it, and the preacher replied with the above joke line. He must have seen this joke on his computer recently. I still have to figure out how and when to urge the bats to move on. I think there may be babies in there right now. Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] US pageantry
During the discussion of jabots for lace, I think it was Devon who bemoaned the lack of pageantry in the US. This isn't so. The US is about 200 years old and a real melting pot, so each ethinic group already has its own traditions. Carribean carnivals were introduced to us in Notting Hill not that long ago. The US itself also has it's own new pageantry. To me that means something that has beome a regular part of life, which which still draws people to look at it. I remember the amazement here when the US Airforce Band appeared here at an event sme tme in the fifties or sixties, I think, and marched to St Louis Blues. We'd never seen anything like that before - all of our marches are very staid, but since then our forces' bands have loosened up and march and play to different rhythms. Then you have cheerleaders - I know we've tried to copy that, but I don't think that those that exist (if any still do) are a patch on the US ones. Marching bands and baton twirling are something I don't remember until fairly recently (I mean during the last thirty or so years and not from those of my childhood). Proms started for school leavers while I was still teaching, obviously stolen from the US. Quite amazing seeing some of our young hooligans in tuxedos and arriving in a stretch limo. Even some of the girls scrubbed up quite well. And ticker-tape parade (admittedly you don't seem to have them now) was something we couldn't copy because none of our buildings were high enough. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] TV programmes
Janice wrote: Maybe you should ask your tv companies to import The Carold Duvall Show. I doubt there's be sufficient audience for it to justify any company buying it. The fact that someone had never seen knitting before says it all. People don't seem to have time (or the inclination) to do anything for themselves now. Families don't sit down for a meal together, children sit themselves in front of the TV or computer screen and everything has to be instant. In some supermarkets, the biggest section is ready-meals, after that is convenience food. Both parents usually work. They can buy anything they want (the amount of debt per head says it all), and regard anything hand-made as home-made and therefore, in their eyes, inferior. DIY and gardening are the current fads. Cookery programmes have all but disappeared from our screens, having been done to death. The local craft shop couldn't find a buyer when the owners retired, and all we're left with is one so-called hobby superstore, which, is fine if you want to take a few things out of a packet and stick them together. I suppose there's some creativity in that, but then it's usually aimed at children. There are obviously some people still doing painting, embroidery, tapestry and quilting, but, apart from people in my lacemaking class or Poole Bobbin Lace Circle, I don't know anyone who does any of those crafts. And when you either tell people what you do, or they see you doing it, it's either Why?, I'd rather be ., You're a lot cleverer than me. or I couldn't do that. If you look at house makeover/selling programmes, there's never anywhere to even put books, let alone do anything creative. I've always had a lot of books, which are well used, and to me a household without books is a very deprived household. Alan Whatshisname (Titchmarsh) had a few fallings out with Tommy and Charlie in the last couple of series he was in, and he decided not to continue with it. He did his own programme How to be a gardener, and writes romantic novels - they sell because of his name, not because of their literary prowess! Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bat control
In the UK (well England at least) bats are protected. There are very severe penalties for interfering with them. If there are bats in your house, then they have to stay - they don't do any harm. Even if an old building is being knocked down and replaced with a new one, the bats have to be considered and steps taken to ensure that they are disrurbed as little as possible and can continue to roost? in the same place. We were thrilled when we had bats in our previous house in Somerset. I used to sit outside in the evenings and watch them. We had no street or other outside lighting and eyes soon become accustomed to dark. There's no truth to the old wives tale that they can become entangled inyour hair - their sonar is able to pick up even small objects, so they have no trouble locating and avoiding a human. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Need help
Sorry to hog chat this morning, but I need some help from UK Arachneans. I've just bought a plastic freezer bag heat sealer from that bastion of everything expensive and classy, Lidl. Yes I am being sarcastic. It's brilliant for me, who because of RA has trouble with lining up the zips on zip bags, and fitting the metal twiddly ties that go around the top of bags. It came with 3 metres of heat sealable plastic tube, but it doesn't say where to buy more. I gather it can also use sealable foil. Does anyone know where I can buy some. Lakeland doesn't do it. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bats
I am fortunate(?) to live in the Bat Capital. We have millions that live in the metroplex. This being Austin, where we even protect salamanders and cave spiders, bats get a lot of publicity and have become a tourist attraction. Check out this URL for getting rid of bats (or keeping them, if you so desire). http://www.batcon.org Anne in Austin TX To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] US pageantry
At 12:52 AM 7/15/2004, you wrote: Proms started for school leavers while I was still teaching, obviously stolen from the US. Quite amazing seeing some of our young hooligans in tuxedos and arriving in a stretch limo. Even some of the girls scrubbed up quite well. The Prom used to be a special dance evening in your best clothes for every one in the senior class. The guy gave the gal a corsage, (if he had a date) and wore a suit or sport jacket with a tie. A date was not required. I don't know when it changed to renting a tux, paying for dinner, perhaps renting a limo or other special transportation, but currently going to a Prom is a very expensive operation. And only with a date. A few years back, in our town, one boy was talking to his gal friends and found out none of them were going because they had no dates. There were more girls than boys in that class. So he invited 8 girls to go with him as a group. He took them all to dinner, gave them corsages, and rented a stretch limo so they could all ride together. It was reported in the news at the time. The boy used his own money to pay for the whole thing. Now I have to go to the county fair, finish setting up the lace demo area, and spend twelve hours making lace. Then repeat it again the next 4 days. Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] UK TV Programmes - The Bill
Dear Friends, I have hesitated to ask this, as I'm not really sure if I want to know. However, I have to confess to being addicted to the UK police show - The Bill. No doubt you will be way ahead of us in the UK, so I have a few questions. We're at the stage where Sheila has just done her first episode out of uniform being about 7months pregnant, and Jim's alcoholic wife is tormenting June. 1. What happens to Des in the long run? 2. What else has Gina GOLD starred in - I just adore that character? 3. Remember Craig, the gay cop? I'd love to see more of him, but have never seen him in anything else. 4. Surely poor Polly succeeds in an appeal. 5. How the hell are we going to bring Kathy undone - insane bitch! 6. For God's sake - does June ever end up with anyone??? There's probably more, but that's enough for now. Love David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bat control
Well I have to disagree with that last statement since I had one get tangled in my hair as a 4 year old. I remember it well and they had to cut him out (cut my hair) I remember being VERY panicked but I don't hold it against them though I was terrified of them for years afterwards. I don't know why he got into my hair but he may have been pursuing a moth that got into my hair. I just remember being just across the street from our house at dusk and was screaming and rolling on the ground. Had all the neighbors and my family there lol. I had LOTS of hair then too. Used to be able to sit on it. My mother bobbed it after that. I do feel a certain sense of panic if they get in the house but I don't dislike them and they do roost in our old home here. They are in our chimney and keep me up in the morning especially in the spring when they just wake up from hibernation, are probably nesting and nights when it is storming and they are stuck inside. My bedroom wall is next to the chimney and I have very good hearing. Their high pitched squeals hurt my ears big time LOL. (I am the only one who hear those) The audible squeaking is merely irritating at times. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:39 AM Subject: [lace-chat] Bat control There's no truth to the old wives tale that they can become entangled inyour hair - their sonar is able to pick up even small objects, so they have no trouble locating and avoiding a human. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] secret pal Thanks
Dear Secret Pal, The package arrived safe and sound and what wonderful surprises. I was shocked that you actually thought of your secret pal while on vacation-the thimble is great, how did you know I collect thimbles? But where is Silver Dollar City? The bobbin fits in with some I already have, I do love them they just glide through your hands. And how crafty is that pin cushion. The chocolates were delicious. Note cards are always so handy. We make Appalachian bird seed puzzles and the the cross stitch jar covers will make special covers for them. Thank you also for the stitch holder and mini clips they are in my work basket already. Depending on what type of bobbin lace I'm in the mood to do, I use both midlands or binche bobbins mostly, most recently I have been learning to do 'S Gravenmoer lace, bonnet lace from the area where my parents were born/raised. I look like Mother Goose with long hair anymore so keep it short. Don't do jewlery, much too allergic. I like medium to finer threads. Again thank you, your packages do bring excitement. Best regards. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
