re: [lace] Jugendstil laces
Hi everyone This is about the book on Austria-lace. Margot wrote: >I found that the patterns did not fit my conception of Art Nouveau's > I thought so, too, then after reading the text finally decided that the flowing styles do fit the period, coming from the Austrian point-of-view to be sure. Arne wrote: >I must say that it really is amazing what you can do with 3 or 4 pairs > And how wide! It's all in the number of twists. I am absolutely fascinated with this lace, especially the edgings. The 'guipure' styles, with many bobbins - I'd like to try those too. I was just looking through my copy quickly as I thought there was reference to Dagobert Peche, and an illustration - did not see it right away (another book, perhaps, or I will need to look more carefully). bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (west coast of Canada) www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Arts and Crafts, Art Nouveau, Art Deco and Dagobert Peche
As some of the other posts have implied, the Jugendstil movement combines elements of Arts and Crafts and Art Nouveau. The Arts and Crafts movement was earlier than Art Nouveau (its most famous English exponent was William Morris) and has a less coherent visual "look", although its principles had a large influence on the development of Art Nouveau. There was an article about Dagobert Peche's lace design in Lace Magazine International, issue 47 (fall of '98), Devon. Also, there is a marvelous portfolio of lace designs from Eastern Europe published in 1926, with many Peche designs as well as other laces incorporating Art Deco themes. Art Deco, being more geometric than Art Nouveau, was much easier to interpret in bobbin lace, especially the simpler, coarser styles of lace like torchon. It's amazing how sophisticated a pattern can be made in very simple lace techniques! My (incomplete, and somewhat watermarked) copy of the portfolio came from an english bookseller via eBay, but there may be other copies available from online used bookstores. Sue. At 05:14 PM 9/29/2004 -0400, you wrote: >On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Ilske wrote: > >> Actually we have both Jugendstil and Art Deco, in english is only one >> word. > >Actually in English, Art Nouveau and Art Deco are two very different >movements. Nouveau from the late 1800s and Deco from the 1930s. Since >I am an Art Nouveau fan, I looked at the Austria-Lace book and was very >disappointed. (Thank goodness I looked at it first before buying it.) >I found that the patterns did not fit my conception of Art Nouveau's >flowing lines. I think the laces might fit in better with the Arts and >Crafts Movement that was also popular in the late 1800s. > >Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Susan Lambiris Raleigh, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Jugendstil laces
On Sep 29, 2004, at 17:13, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Jugenstil and Art Nouveau are the same. Art Deco is different. Same in Poland. What's called "Art Nuveau" in English, was known as "Young Poland Movement" at the time, though is now refered to as Art Nouveau. Very well represented in paintings, sculpture, literature, etc (though not much in architecture). Art Deco never took off much, so it has always ben called by its foreign name. Yours, with a new modem, which will hopefully work now... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet: no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Jugendstil laces
Jugenstil and Art Nouveau are the same. Art Deco is different. Art Nouveau was c1890-1910, very late Victorian/Edwardian in British history, and with lots of flowers and stems and tendrils etc and curvy surfaces. Rene Lalique, Antoni Gaudi, Charles Renee Macintosh, Aubrey Beardsley are some of the best known names. Art Deco was the 1920s & 1930s. Much more geometric - Odeon cinemas, Bauhaus designs, Empire State Building, Clarice Cliff, Susie Cooper, Wassily Kandinsky. Brenda On 29 Sep 2004, at 14:18, Ilske und Peter Thomsen wrote: Hello Lacefriends, Actually we have both Jugendstil and Art Deco, in english is only one word. Start with the beginning. The movement called Jugendstil in german who started about 1895 got its name after the Munich magazin "Jugend"(Youth). This movement was first in architecture but very quick in all sorts of art, music, poetrie, peinting, dance, theatre shortly everywhere. It was a movement against industrial things back to handmade. And very important everything should be in the same style. In a house for example the house itself the curtains, the furniture, the dishes still the dresses of the women. The most important motives came from nature flowers, poppys, sunflower, irises, lilies, and others,. All this influenced from japan and put together in a new form of ornamentic. It ended about 1910 but had changed the historicism but has helped to a better form for the live people lived at the beginning of 20th century. Think on the dresses and underwear our grand-mothers had to wear. Later it became a bit kitchy and the later parts are called in Germany Art Deco. You find examles by a lot of painters like Gustav Klimt, Alfons Mucha, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Louis Comfort Tiffany or in architecture Henri van der Velde, J. Hoffmann, J. Olbrich and a lot of others. In Darmstadt and Plauen in Germany or Vienna in Austriche or Prague in Czech Republic , or Nancy in France you can see lots of wonderfull buildings from that time. All this had its expression in embroidery and lace as well. I told you about the book "Austria-Lace" from Poldi Winkler and still the Schneeberger-lace. And for the needle-lace have a look to the designs of Dagobert Peche from Wiener-Werkstätten, this fantastic collars and fans with the lillys of the valley or the bellflowers. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] New Sandi Woods Book
Sandi had an advance copy of the book at IOLI in Harrisburg. It's beautiful! It's more of the Milanese with her color control, but it's not just an alphabet. She also shows examples of abstract things done with elements from the letters (a swash from one letter plus a swirl from another), to inspire you to use the shapes for more than just monograms. Personally, I have no interest in a book on alphabets in lace, but I plan to get this book because of the other uses for her shapes and for the information on color manipulation. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Batsford have published a new Sandi Woods book - 'Alphabet Inspirations in Coloured Bobbin Lace'. I'm on their email newsletter list, but haven't had one recently. It seems this book was published on 19th August, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it until I decided to have a look at their web site, not looking for anything in particular. http://www.batsford.com/book/0713489057 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dagobert Peche, lace designer
In a message dated 9/29/04 9:29:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And for the needle-lace have a look to the designs > of Dagobert Peche from Wiener-Werkstätten, this fantastic collars and > fans with the lillys of the valley or the bellflowers > I would be interested to learn more about the lace designing activities of > Dagobert Peche. Is there a book where his designs are published? > Here in New York there is a German Expressionist museum and bookstore and I > have looked through books about Dagobert Peche and the Wiener-Werkstatten an > d > really never run across anything about his lace designing. Whether this is > because he did very little of it or because people who write books now a > days > attach no importance to it, I do not know. > Devon > Dear Devon, More than books are here in Maine! I save newspaper articles, though a reliable filing system is non-existent. Inside a book called "Lace - Vienna: Lace & Embroidery Patterns - Liberty Style of Vienna" arranged and edited by Wolfgang Hageney, and published by Belvedere of Rome-Milan, I found a clipping that will interest you. But, before I get to the clipping -- the book was purchased in, of all places, the magazine stand in the train station in Munich Germany in the 1980's while I was on a Scoular-led embroidery tour! Now, to the clipping. The review is about a Vienna Modern exhibit, and was written by Rita Reif, New York Times, page 25 of what must have been the Arts section, dated Sunday, November 10, 1996. It is partly about a 1986 show at the Museum of Modern Art, and it says it was the 4th best attended exhibition there (exceeded only by Matisse and Picasso shows). However, the 1996 review is really about two exhibits at galleries in New York in that year. The first was at the Galerie St. Etienne on West 57th Street, organized by the owner/director by the name of Jane Kallir. Her exhibit was called "The Viennese Line: Art and Design Circa 1900". Included in this exhibit, and illustrating the newspaper article is a large photo of a buff-toned lace doily of a reclining nude woman, designed by Dagobert Peche in the 1920's, as a retro design with elements of folk art. It is bobbin lace. The prices of items exhibited ranged from $500 for a postcard by Mela Kohler to $280,000 for a watercolor of a nude by Schiele. The second exhibition being held in 1996 was "Vienna 1900-1930: Art in the Home" at Historical Design on 61st Street east of Second Avenue. No mention of laces in the article. The expert at that gallery was Jonathan Hallem, director of Historical Design. Decorative art items there were priced from $750 to $135,000! Perhaps the persons at these two galleries can be of assistance to you in your research, Devon. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New Sandi Woods Book
Batsford have published a new Sandi Woods book - 'Alphabet Inspirations in Coloured Bobbin Lace'. I'm on their email newsletter list, but haven't had one recently. It seems this book was published on 19th August, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it until I decided to have a look at their web site, not looking for anything in particular. http://www.batsford.com/book/0713489057 The Batsford (or rather Chrysalis) web site has been redesigned, and there doesn't appear to be a discount club direct from them any more. The books have a button for buying from Amazon. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Handkerchief Question
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 07:48 PM, Webwalker wrote: > > The part that is not the border is, however, worn thin and ripped. If you plan to frame the handkerchief, there is no need to repair it. Cover the rip with a portrait of an appropriate ancestor. -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it drizzled all day yesterday. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Jugendstil laces
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Ilske und Peter Thomsen wrote: Actually we have both Jugendstil and Art Deco, in english is only one word. Actually in English, Art Nouveau and Art Deco are two very different movements. Nouveau from the late 1800s and Deco from the 1930s. Since I am an Art Nouveau fan, I looked at the Austria-Lace book and was very disappointed. (Thank goodness I looked at it first before buying it.) I found that the patterns did not fit my conception of Art Nouveau's flowing lines. I think the laces might fit in better with the Arts and Crafts Movement that was also popular in the late 1800s. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Dagobert Peche, lace designer
In a message dated 9/29/2004 9:21:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And for the needle-lace have a look to the designs of Dagobert Peche from Wiener-Werkstätten, this fantastic collars and fans with the lillys of the valley or the bellflowers I would be interested to learn more about the lace designing activities of Dagobert Peche. Is there a book where his designs are published? Here in New York there is a German Expressionist museum and bookstore and I have looked through books about Dagobert Peche and the Wiener-Werkstatten and really never run across anything about his lace designing. Whether this is because he did very little of it or because people who write books now a days attach no importance to it, I do not know. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Jugendstil laces
Hello Lacefriends, Actually we have both Jugendstil and Art Deco, in english is only one word. Start with the beginning. The movement called Jugendstil in german who started about 1895 got its name after the Munich magazin "Jugend"(Youth). This movement was first in architecture but very quick in all sorts of art, music, poetrie, peinting, dance, theatre shortly everywhere. It was a movement against industrial things back to handmade. And very important everything should be in the same style. In a house for example the house itself the curtains, the furniture, the dishes still the dresses of the women. The most important motives came from nature flowers, poppys, sunflower, irises, lilies, and others,. All this influenced from japan and put together in a new form of ornamentic. It ended about 1910 but had changed the historicism but has helped to a better form for the live people lived at the beginning of 20th century. Think on the dresses and underwear our grand-mothers had to wear. Later it became a bit kitchy and the later parts are called in Germany Art Deco. You find examles by a lot of painters like Gustav Klimt, Alfons Mucha, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Louis Comfort Tiffany or in architecture Henri van der Velde, J. Hoffmann, J. Olbrich and a lot of others. In Darmstadt and Plauen in Germany or Vienna in Austriche or Prague in Czech Republic , or Nancy in France you can see lots of wonderfull buildings from that time. All this had its expression in embroidery and lace as well. I told you about the book "Austria-Lace" from Poldi Winkler and still the Schneeberger-lace. And for the needle-lace have a look to the designs of Dagobert Peche from Wiener-Werkstätten, this fantastic collars and fans with the lillys of the valley or the bellflowers. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
