Re: [lace] Bobbin lace fence in NY Times/Joep/Jeroen

2005-05-09 Thread Jean Leader
On the NKO page with the fence
http://www.kantopleiding-nko.nl/Aktiviteiten/Aktiviteiten.html
I clicked on Studio DEMAKERSVAN and got
http://www.demakersvan.com/
From this it appears that the fence is by Joep Verhoeven and that 
Jeroen Verhoeven is a different designer.

Jean
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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace fence in NY Times/Joep/Jeroen

2005-05-09 Thread Diane Z
I wanted to save a copy of the fence from New York Times May 8 picture.  I 
didn't do it yesterday and today, I can't get access to the slide show.

Did anyone copy the picture and, maybe, forward a copy to me?
I would greatly appreciate it.
Diane Zierold
Lubec, Maine
Wet, cold and windy
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[lace] welcome to Luda in Kiev

2005-05-09 Thread Sylvie Nguyen
Hello Luda and welcome to the Arachne list.  I am sure
that through the list, you will find a great wealth of
information and support in your lace making.  

Sylvie 
in rainy Cherry Valley, Illinois, USA



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[lace] Fence/Joep and Jeroen

2005-05-09 Thread Dmt11home
Dear Jean,
Thank you for the web site. Yes, undoubtedly you are right that Joep and  
Jeroen are different designers. It does appear it was Joep who did the fence.  
This seems consistent right up until the moment when the fence appeared at the  
Milan show, and then, both the Times and Icon Magazine are attributing it to  
Jeroen or to all three members of the group De Makers Van which includes 
Jeroen,  Joep and Judith DeGraauw.
 
Icon magazine attributes it to all three artists calling it one of the  
outstanding moments of the fair. It is number 10 of their top ten items at this 
 
site where a picture of it appears.
 
_http://www.icon-magazine.co.uk/issues/024/milan_text.htm_ 
(http://www.icon-magazine.co.uk/issues/024/milan_text.htm) 
 
Devon
pondering the cruelty of finding such ambiguity after the momentous letter  
to the Times has been sent

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Re: [lace]thread gauge

2005-05-09 Thread Diane Williams
Jane,

I have one of these and I think you can still get it
from Tracy, The Lacemaker.

http://www.lacemakerusa.com

Diane Williams
Galena, Illinois USA
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--- Jane Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seeking help from good spiders.
 
 About ten years ago, I bought a thread gauge that
 was a transparency with
 various grids on it that you could lay over your
 pricking to see what type
 it was, ie. 5mm diagonal, 1/8 straight, etc.  Then
 it had a one page guide
 of suggested thread for a particular grid such as
 16/2 Swedish linen, or 5
 DMC pearl cotton for example for the 5mm diagonal
 grid.  On the page it
 says:  © 1991 The Lacemaker USA.  Can anyone tell me
 anything about the
 gauge and/or it's maker?  As I have helped beginner
 lacers, I always have
 someone who would like to purchase this.  Does
 anyone know if there is
 something like this available from one of the
 vendors out there?
 
 Thank you for any help.
 
 Jane Nelson
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 Lincoln, NE  USA 
 
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[lace] That lace fence!

2005-05-09 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Well, now I've seen it, I think  the whole thing rather resembles the 
wellknown situation with Dr. Johnson's talking dog; i.e., the wonder 
isn't that the fence is so beautiful (which I don't think it is), but 
merely the fact that it exists at all. To my mind the object (fence) 
and the technique (lace) coexist uneasily and demonstrate their 
unsuitability to each other. (I know, I know, there will be plenty of 
Arachnes who disagree with me)  --  Aurelia

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[lace] That Lace Fence

2005-05-09 Thread Dmt11home
the wonder 
isn't that the fence is so beautiful (which I don't think it  is), but 
merely the fact that it exists at all. To my mind the object  (fence) 
and the technique (lace) coexist uneasily and demonstrate their  
unsuitability to each other. (I know, I know, there will be plenty of  
Arachnes who disagree with me)  --  Aurelia


Dear Aurelia,
You are correct that executed in fiber the fence would barely merit a  second 
glance. I guess it goes to the central paradox that when you do a simple  
fiber technique in a rigid medium it is hailed as art and genius. When you do 
an  
incredibly complex and beautiful technique in fiber someone says, I can buy  
that for a dollar a yard at the Rag Shop. Consciousness raising is in  order!
 
Perhaps we need to take the design world forward in easy steps. After they  
go ga-ga over a chain link fence in bobbin technique we say, now look what  
happens when you take the chain link technique and perform it with a lovely  
colored silk...
 
Devon

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[lace] Thread Gauge

2005-05-09 Thread delia.palin
I got a thread gauge very similar to the one you mention from Makit Lace in 
England.  Their phone no is 01480 810810, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I  don't 
thjink they have a website.  The gauge comes with a book comparing different 
threads.  I find it invaluable, and use it all the time. 

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Re: [lace] Suitcases and travel

2005-05-09 Thread Flyingkitn
Dear Lace-Friends:
 
This letter made me think back to my first trip to England with Laurie  
Hughes and other NELG members and gave me a major chuckle.  Half-way  through 
our 
second week, we MAILED our clothes back to the US.  We had our  suitcases full 
of books, supplies, etc.  We spent approximately 65 pounds  sterling -- the 
box was pretty big -- to mail it home.  We understood our  priorities!
 
Linda Sheff

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Re: [lace] Suitcases and travel

2005-05-09 Thread Sue Babbs
Another solution to this (where you are allowed to fly with more than one 
bag) is to put an empty  folding bag into the bag/ case you take out with 
you and fill it up for your return journey. I regularly take a spare bag 
with me when I know I will be shopping at the destination.
Sue

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[lace] Luda in Kiev

2005-05-09 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Thank you for your introduction, Luda.   We can hardly say welcome, you
have been with us over four years!

It is so interesting to hear about lacemakers in other countries.  Here in
Australia we have some lacemakers, and we managed to keep in touch
through our Australian Lace Guild magazine, and a lot of us via the
internet.

And thank you for your offer of a free Russian lace pattern
Perhaps someone with a personal web site can include it on their site.
I would be quite happy to - are you able to email me files in .jpg format?

Noelene in Cooma, Australia
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[lace] New E-mail address - and edition 3

2005-05-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Due to Argonet's decision to wind down their ISP service, I have, as of 
yesterday, a new email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  although the old argonet address will 
automatically forward for a week or so.

However, there's a bit of a glitch in the system and I still have to 
send outgoing mail via the argonet server, so it may look as though 
mail from me has come via argonet rather than orpheus-appleshack!

My website will remain at it's current domain for a while and once it's 
been migrated to the orpheus server that too will re-direct, probably 
only the home page but I think I can write (copy  paste) the necessary 
html to redirect all the main pages.  I'll post the new URL once it's 
up and running.

I've finally finished Edition3 of Threads for Lace - took the CD to the 
printer today and I'm awaiting a phone call to confirm the costs before 
giving him the go ahead  as it's a bit more than the original quote :-( 
 I knew from the size of Addendum2 that it would be over 1000 threads 
but it's actually 1,150 and runs to 96 pages.

Brenda Paternoster in Kent England
Arachne Secret pal administrator
www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace-chat] Driving through Wales

2005-05-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Tamara wrote:
The shot proved to be a long string of gobbledy-gook, which just
*might* be the way to say Burger King in Welsh g
The string of gobbledy-gook is the way the place name is pronounced by the 
Welsh - it's even more gobbledy-gook if anyone else tries tries pronounce 
it.

According to a book Know Britain - The Heritage and Institutions of an 
Offshore Island by Francis K Mason and Martin Windrow published in 1972, it 
actually means The Church of St Mary in a hollow of white hazel near to a 
rapid whirlpool and to St Tysilio's Church near to a red cave, but Burger 
King is close enough :-D.

Jean in Poole 

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Fwd: RE: [lace-chat] driving through Wales

2005-05-09 Thread Martha Krieg
I forwarded it to my husband (a linguistics PhD of Welsh heritage), 
who replied:

As I recall, we *did* have a Burger King meal in Wales, but not in Llanfair
P.G. (which is what the natives call it). Llanfair P.G. was only about 20
miles west of us when we visited Conwy, but we went in the opposite
direction to get to our Burger King (which the natives would call
by-gy-cing).
;-)
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From: Martha Krieg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: [lace-chat] driving through Wales

Two tourists were driving through Wales.

At Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwryndrobwllyantsllyogogogoch, they stopped
for
lunch at Burger King and one tourist asked the waitress, Before we order,
could you  please settle an argument for us?  Would you please pronounce
where
we are...
very slowly?

The  blonde waitress leaned over and  said,
Burrr-gurrr-Kinngg...
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[lace-chat] :-)) Jokes

2005-05-09 Thread Jeanette Fischer
Joke 1:


Shakey went to a psychiatrist. Doc, he said, I've got trouble. Every time
I get into bed, I think there's somebody under it. I get under the bed, I
think there's somebody on top of it. Top, under, top, under. you gotta help
me, I'm going crazy!

Just put yourself in my hands for two years, said the shrink. Come to me
three times a week, and I'll cure your fears.

How much do you charge?

A hundred dollars per visit.

I'll sleep on it, said Shakey.

Six months later the doctor met Shakey on the street. Why didn't you ever
come to see me again? asked the psychiatrist.

For a hundred buck's a visit? A bartender cured me for ten dollars.

Is that so! How?

He told me to cut the legs off the bed!


Joke 2:


At a friend's wedding, everything went smoothly until it was time for the
flower girl and her young escort to come down the aisle.

The boy stopped at every pew, growling at the guests. When asked afterward
why he behaved so badly, he explained, I was just trying to be a good ring
bear.


Joke 3:


Cash, check or charge? I asked after folding items the woman wished to
purchase. As she fumbled for her wallet I notice a remote control for a
television set in her purse.

Do you always carry your TV remote? I asked.

No, she replied. But my husband refused to come shopping with me, so I
figured this was the most evil thing I could do to him.


Joke 4:


An out-of-towner drove his car into a ditch in a desolated area. Luckily, a
local farmer came to help with his big strong horse named Buddy.

He hitched Buddy up to the car and yelled, Pull, Nellie, pull! Buddy
didn't move.

Then the farmer hollered, Pull, Buster, pull! Buddy didn't respond.

Once more the farmer commanded, Pull, Coco, pull! Nothing.

Then the farmer nonchalantly said, Pull, Buddy, pull! And the horse easily
dragged the car out of the ditch.

The motorist was most appreciative and very curious. He asked the farmer why
he called his horse by the wrong name three times.

Well... Buddy is blind and if he thought he was the only one pulling, he
wouldn't even try!

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[lace-chat] New E-mail address - and edition 3

2005-05-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Due to Argonet's decision to wind down their ISP service, I have, as of 
yesterday, a new email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  although the old argonet address will 
automatically forward for a week or so.

However, there's a bit of a glitch in the system and I still have to 
send outgoing mail via the argonet server, so it may look as though 
mail from me has come via argonet rather than orpheus-appleshack!

My website will remain at it's current domain for a while and once it's 
been migrated to the orpheus server that too will re-direct, probably 
only the home page but I think I can write (copy  paste) the necessary 
html to redirect all the main pages.  I'll post the new URL once it's 
up and running.

I've finally finished Edition3 of Threads for Lace - took the CD to the 
printer today and I'm awaiting a phone call to confirm the costs before 
giving him the go ahead  as it's a bit more than the original quote :-( 
 I knew from the size of Addendum2 that it would be over 1000 threads 
but it's actually 1,150 and runs to 96 pages.

Brenda Paternoster in Kent England
Arachne Secret pal administrator
www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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Re: Fwd: RE: [lace-chat] driving through Wales

2005-05-09 Thread Steph Peters
On Mon, 9 May 2005 10:54:28 -0400, Martha wrote:
I forwarded it to my husband (a linguistics PhD of Welsh heritage), 
who replied:


As I recall, we *did* have a Burger King meal in Wales, but not in Llanfair
P.G. (which is what the natives call it). Llanfair P.G. was only about 20
miles west of us when we visited Conwy, but we went in the opposite
direction to get to our Burger King (which the natives would call
by-gy-cing).

Definitely no Burger King in Llanfair P.G.  I was there last year during my
cycling tour of the North Wales coast, and in need of sustenance.  The
possibilities were a couple of pubs, or the coffee shop inside the Edinburgh
Woollen Mills shop.  I never did work out why the biggest shop in a Welsh
village was Scottish.
--
Corporation..An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit 
without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
Steph Peters, Manchester, England
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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Washington Post Style Invitational

2005-05-09 Thread Tamara P Duvall
I really can't remember if this one has made the rounds. On the one 
hand, some of the newly created words ring a bell (though not all) and 
probably with reason, given the date. OTOH, my son (the source) says 
he's not seen it before, and his memory is much better than mine... I 
like #15, but can't figure out which letter had been changed there.

From: D. D.
The Washington Post's Style Invitational once again asked readers to 
take
any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or 
changing
one letter, and supply a new definition.

Here are the 2003 winners:
1. Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you
realize it was your money to start with.
2. Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.
3. Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops 
bright
ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little 
sign
of breaking down in the near future.

4. Foreploy: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of
getting laid.
5. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the 
subject
financially impotent for an indefinite period.

6. Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high.
7. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person
who doesn't get it.
8. Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.
9. Hipatitis: Terminal coolness.
10. Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.)
11. Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these 
really
bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's like, a
serious bummer.

12. Decafalon (n.): The grueling event of getting through the day 
consuming
only things that are good for you.

13. Glibido: All talk and no action.
14. Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when 
they
come at you rapidly.

15. Arachnoleptic fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after 
you've
accidentally walked through a spider web.

16. Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito that gets into your
bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.
17. Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a grub in 
the
fruit you're eating.

And the pick of the literature:
18. Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.
--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace-chat] School dinners.

2005-05-09 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thank you all for your replies.  I found it interesting to read your 
comments.
We were amazed (appalled!) at the attitude of some parents, and some school 
cooks towards the food they were serving.

I am so glad things are improving.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,  - who has just had a beaut meal cooked 
by her DH, who now does the cooking, (I do 
the washing up afterwards!)

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[lace-chat] Lacemakers Circle AGM

2005-05-09 Thread Thelacebee
Are any of the Spiders thinking of going at the weekend?
 
Regards

Liz in London

I'm back _blogging_ (http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee)  my 
latest lace  piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to 
_http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee_ 
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