[lace] Sock Raffle Thanks
Janice, Thank you so much, the socks arrived today. regards Marie - Do you Yahoo!? Try Yahoo! Photomail Beta: Send up to 300 photos in one email! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace in the news
A friend alerted me to the following article, available online... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/main.jhtml?xml=/fashion/2005/10/12/eflace12.xml Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] christmas exchange
Please add my name to the christmas exchange. I am sending to lace as I am not quite sure who is arranging it this year. Sue Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Anna magazine
Can I take it that no one in the UK has seen the latest issue of Anna yet? I have had no response to my original question. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. I don't see any gimps, and those look like pomegranates, which I'm not sure I've seen too much of in beds lace. The footside isn't a common English one either. And if it was English, I don't think they'd have done rolled tallies on it, since they're slower to make than the humped ones. It does sort of have a Kortelahti look to it, but that wasn't my first thought. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we've had the first storm of the season which has caused much damage to my lovely Honey Locust in front of my house. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA
In a message dated 10/12/05 5:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suzy wrote: if its older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. In the UK an antique has to be at least 100 years old, so now anything made in or before 1905 is an antique. Next year it will be anything made in or before 1906. Anything younger than 100 years is a collectable. Made in the last 20 years would be termed a modern collectable. I think there a few exceptuions, but 100 years is the general rule. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Dear Suzy and Other Collectors, Twenty years old is not considered an antique in the USA. Perhaps some irresponsible sellers on eBay may have given you this impression, but it is incorrect. It is false advertising. Let us not give people all over the world the wrong impression. Collectible may be used, if you like. But remember that Collectible is almost anything these days. Then, there is the matter of Vintage. There are people who deliberately age items to make them appear to be Vintage. Beware! In the USA, all purchases abroad must be declared on Department of the Treasury Customs Declaration forms whether dutiable or not, and whether obtained by purchase, as a gift, or otherwise. If an item is 100 years old or older it is considered an Antique, making it exempt from duty taxation. You must be able to prove it is Antique, which collectors often do by obtaining a receipt from an antique dealer from whom the item was purchased. If you want to get technical and formal, there are many descriptions of what is antique that can be obtained from the government and from antiques organizations. Perhaps someone would like to send this to Lace Chat, if this thread has been discussed there. We must not give such inaccurate information as to state that If it's older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. This would be false advertising. It could get some of our Arachnes into serious trouble. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fwd: Free graph paper site
Tamara wrote: I know Margery left it to Avital, but Avital may or may not catch the message, so I'm taking it upon myself :) Sorry, but we've just finished Yom Kippur and I have to prepare for Shabbat tomorrow and Sukkot after that, so I won't get to this site for a while. Avital, thinner but woozier - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
At 08:35 AM 10/13/2005, you wrote: It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. It does sort of have a Kortelahti look to it, but that wasn't my first thought. I have my doubts about it being handmade though the pattern is very interesting. I've seen some machine lace that was so close to handmade that it fooled alot of people. I'm sure it's not Kortelahti, though some features are similar to her style. I would have to see an enlargement of the insertion before I make an opinion about it's origin. For newbies -- Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti is a Finnish lacemaker and pattern designer who has published several books of patterns. I enjoy making her patterns and have most of her books. She has a style of her own. In a past discussion on this list, it was concluded her lace should be called Kortelahti Lace because it didn't fit into any specific traditional lace style. Most of her books show a pricking and a picture of the lace. The lacemaker has to be able to work without written instructions or detailed diagrams to make these patterns. Alice in Oregon -- where I have been working on a Kortelahti pattern, and it's raining outside. It's doesn't look good for Saturday's Harvest festival but the bobbin lace demo is indoors. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
le 13/10/05 0:42, Barb ETx à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Ladies, you all know more that I do. but this looks and has the feel of some patterns that I got from the LePuy Lace schoolI do not know if they are old or not, The booklet was revised in 1941. I cannot read the FrenchI can only read the patterns.lots of leaves and those tiny raised dots, that I also found in the DeDillmont books. my ha'penny worth BarbE my opinion too . it reminded me of some Retournac samples i saw last summer (Retournac is 20mn's drive from Le Puy) .. the tiny raised dots are leaves too ... dominique from France. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] without computer
Hallo All. Jean Peach asked me to let you know that for the time being she will not be available.She has once again computer trouble. I am willing to take messages for her. Greetings Dora Northern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] MP, OT, yarn question
Hi Every one, My question is directed more to the members in England, Scotland, and Ireland where this type of yarn was originally made. Of course if any one in other parts of the world have any information please pass it on to me. Many years ago, in the late 1940's I knitted Ayrgyll socks using a special predyed yarn. There were no bobbins to wind, not a thing to do, but open the pack and start knitting. As you followed the chart the argyle pattern just formed. The magnificent yarn was Ayr Lavenda made in England. The packs were distributed by Ayr Scotch Wools, Inc. Green's Farms, Connecticut. I'm sure there was so much work in getting the wool dyed exactly right to form the beautiful patterns, that it's no longer profitable to make. I know many of our lacemakers and tatters also do knitting. Is anything like this yarn available today? I still have the ad from a needlework magazine on this. I remember getting the packs from Sears Roebuck store back then. I guess the yarn could be compared to our variegated threads of today, except the colors formed a special pattern if knitted with a certain tension. I was lucky I had the right tension with no problem. Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA TatPat1, NATA #333 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. i thought you were going to guess it by the descrition you were giving. at least you knew it couldn't be english. i'll bet if i gave you a few days to think of it, you or someone on this list would have gotten it right!! i thought it was a beatiful piece of lace work, and i'm sorry i was too cheap to by a yard considering it was 100 years old! even if it were to come out to be machine made, but then again i have the photo to copy for the pattern, and i plan to keep it. It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. I don't see any gimps, and those look like pomegranates, which I'm not sure I've seen too much of in beds lace. The footside isn't a common English one either. And if it was English, I don't think they'd have done rolled tallies on it, since they're slower to make than the humped ones. from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA
i'm going to leave this letter as is just so everyone will know on lace chat what the conversation was about. i also said in the email, if i didn't say this clearly, that i wasn't sure and that i had heard from someone else it was considered antique after 20 years old. this is obviously not true and i wouldn't want to be responsible for misleading anyone or seeming to accuse anyone or any seller of misusing this label to make a sale. i appreciate knowing what erra a seller is really advertising by the responses i've already gotten from other arachians. so don't be so worried. i am not giving others the idea that america is allowed to cheat the public by lieing about the age of their items. this is not true at all. someone even printed the rules at to what age means what in america, so it was clearly explained and i'll find the email the nice and well informed person sent and send it to lace chat so everyone will know what the u.s. really considers to be antique, which is the same as the u.k. being the item at 100 years old. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/05 5:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suzy wrote: if its older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. In the UK an antique has to be at least 100 years old, so now anything made in or before 1905 is an antique. Next year it will be anything made in or before 1906. Anything younger than 100 years is a collectable. Made in the last 20 years would be termed a modern collectable. I think there a few exceptuions, but 100 years is the general rule. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Dear Suzy and Other Collectors, Twenty years old is not considered an antique in the USA. Perhaps some irresponsible sellers on eBay may have given you this impression, but it is incorrect. It is false advertising. Let us not give people all over the world the wrong impression. Collectible may be used, if you like. But remember that Collectible is almost anything these days. Then, there is the matter of Vintage. There are people who deliberately age items to make them appear to be Vintage. Beware! In the USA, all purchases abroad must be declared on Department of the Treasury Customs Declaration forms whether dutiable or not, and whether obtained by purchase, as a gift, or otherwise. If an item is 100 years old or older it is considered an Antique, making it exempt from duty taxation. You must be able to prove it is Antique, which collectors often do by obtaining a receipt from an antique dealer from whom the item was purchased. If you want to get technical and formal, there are many descriptions of what is antique that can be obtained from the government and from antiques organizations. Perhaps someone would like to send this to Lace Chat, if this thread has been discussed there. We must not give such inaccurate information as to state that If it's older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. This would be false advertising. It could get some of our Arachnes into serious trouble. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
oops, to suzy, sent this to you privately and meant to include the lace list: This is like the story of the 6 blind philosphers trying to identify by feel a particular strange beast (it was an elephant) - so many interesting opinions. I sent the link of the picture of the lace to a collector pal of mine. Her reaction: Yes, this is fantastic lace! I would date it somewhat later, like early 20th C, and note that it's construction is somewhat similar to a guipure pattern I found (1910-20). I think it is likely Belgian. On 10/13/05, suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ -- bye for now Bev, getting used to a new e-mail system in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins: www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
here is his name and email address: James Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED], and he says he works with this women often, so maybe you can get more information than what i got. i'm not arguing where it came from because i wouldn't know one type of bobbin lace from another for the most part, but if this is a hundred year old piece of hand made lace, then it would just as important to know who made it and where it came from, especially if it had such a large yardage that it could be sold by the yard. i might find the courage to write him again in a few days and find out, but not tonight! lol! it was sold out before i could get a question in about it! i'm sure he will do business with the same lady again and she can get the info for us all on where it came from then. --- bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is like the story of the 6 blind philosphers trying to identify by feel a particular strange beast (it was an elephant) - so many interesting opinions. I sent the link of the picture of the lace to a collector pal of mine. Her reaction: Yes, this is fantastic lace! I would date it somewhat later, like early 20th C, and note that it's construction is somewhat similar to a guipure pattern I found (1910-20). I think it is likely Belgian. On 10/13/05, suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: antique bobbin lace
On Oct 13, 2005, at 23:48, bevw wrote: Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ They'd have had to, since Israel as an independent country (and using that name) is under 60 yrs old... In 1905 - the earliest date for the lace to be judged antique there was no Israel - there was Palestine, under British administration. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re:Judith McNaught, Author
...about a book by Judith McNaught called Waters Edge. from web page: http://www.mcnaughtized.com/faqbooks.html Despite various flagrantly incorrect assertions circulating all over the internet, Water's Edge was never published. Judith was halfway through writing it when, according to her, she realized she had two very good books going. So what is an author as smart as JM to do? Why split them up, of course! The book that emerged from the split was Someone To Watch Over Me, which is in stores now. Susan Webster To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Neat Trick for DIY roller painters
Saw a “professional” painting the other day... Take a piece of plastic (half a garbage bag will do nicely), and lay it across the roller pan. Push the plastic into the “corners” of the roller pan as best you can-—won’t fit exactly, of course since the plastic is 2-dimensional and the roller pan is 3-, but it isn’t critical. Now you may want to take a bit of masking tape and gather the plastic **outside** the pan at the corners (folding it down over the lip of the pan as you do so). If it it cumbersome, cut off excess ** outside** the pan beyond about 3 inches. Pour in your paint. And paint. When you are finished, gather the edges of the plastic and whatever paint is left will be in the center of the little “bag” you just made. Hold it over the paint can and cut a slit in the bottom. The excess paint can be reclaimed and your roller pan is already clean. Susan Webster To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: antique
I remember when I lived in England, the things we considered antique were not considered antique by the English at all! I guess being raised where the local tea shop was a home built in the 1500's would produce that kind of attitude. I wonder if the standards are the same for the US and Europe now? Our standard in the US is that it has to be 100 years old or more. I also read that it was anything made before 1840 or 1830 because at that time things began to be mass produced. However, if you are talking about automobiles, the antique label is for vehicles older than 20 years. (I suppose if you are thinking of purchasing an antique license plate for the car). I also read that for rugs, the age is 60 years. Debbie in Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Don't Mess with Kids
7 reasons not to mess with children. A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small. The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible. The little girl said, When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah. The teacher asked, What if Jonah went to hell? The little girl replied, Then you ask him. A Kindergarten teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, I'm drawing God. The teacher paused and said, But no one knows what God looks like. Without missing a beat, or looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, They will in a minute. A Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to honor thy Father and thy Mother, she asked, Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters? Without missing a beat one little boy (the oldest of a family) answered, Thou shall not kill. One day a little girl was sitting and watching her mother do the dishes at the kitchen sink. She suddenly noticed that her mother had several strands of white hair sticking out in contrast on her brunette head. She looked at her mother and inquisitively asked, Why are some of your hairs white, Mom? Her mother replied, Well, every time that you do something wrong and make me cry or unhappy, one of my hairs turns white. The little girl thought about this revelation for a while and then said, Momma, how come ALL of grandma's hairs are white? The children had all been photographed, and the teacher was trying to persuade them each to buy a copy of the group picture. Just think how nice it will be to look at it when you are all grown up and say, 'There's Jennifer, she's a lawyer,' or 'That's Michael, He's a doctor.' A small voice at the back of the room rang out, And there's the teacher, She's dead. A teacher was giving a lesson on the circulation of the blood. Trying to make the matter clearer, she said, Now, class, if I stood on my head, the blood, as you know, would run into it, and I would turn red in the face.. Yes, the class said. Then why is it that while I am standing upright in the ordinary position the blood doesn't run into my feet? A little fellow shouted, Cause your feet ain't empty. The children were lined up in the cafeteria of a Catholic elementary school for lunch. At the head of the table was a large pile of apples. The nun made a note, and posted on the apple tray: Take only ONE. God is watching. Moving further along the lunch line, at the other end of the table was a large pile of chocolate chip cookies. A child had written a note, Take all you want. God is watching the apples. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 11/10/05 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Last Words
LAST WORDS Lying in a hospital bed, the dying man began to flail about and make motions as if he would like to speak. The priest, keeping watch at the side of the bed leaned quietly over and asked, Do you have something you would like to say? The man nodded in the affirmative and the priest handed him a pen and paper. I know you can't speak, so use this to write a note and I will give it to your wife who's waiting outside. Gathering his last bit of strength, the man took them and scrawled his message, which he stuffed into the priest's hands. Then moments later, the man died. After administering the Last Rites, the priest left to break the sad news to the wife. After consoling her a bit, the priest handed her the note. Here were his last words. Just before passing on, he wrote this message to you. The wife tearfully opened the message that read: GET OFF MY OXYGEN HOSE NOW David in Ballarat Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 11/10/05 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] herbal diet for arthritis and gout
i don't know if there is anyone on this website bothered with the same physical symptoms as me, but i have been suffering for over a year or so with very tender sensitive feet especially in the mornings. it has had me worrying that i might becoming crippled, even though i am not that old. it is very hard the first 5 or 10 minutes when i get up in the morning to walk at all on my feet. i read in some herbal books belonging to my dad ( who thinks i have gout ) that there are some really nice effective kitchen cubbert cures for them or at least a relief from them. i drank some honey in a hot cup of tea and ate a big bowl of chili and within an hour or so my feet were feeling 100 percent better, and when i woke this morning my feet were feeling great. this hasn't happened in over a year. the books i read say for gout and arthritis it is good to eat any bee product, hot cayenne peppers ( the hotter the better), chili peppers, cherries, milk, and a few other things found around the kitchen. one internet website also said to eat white potatoes. it says to not eat seafoods at all for either of these disorders. this really worked, so if there is anyone who is suffering from any circulatory problems, if you are not allergic or sworn off from these types of foods from you doctor, then please try them. it might make a very big differance in your mobility. for those of you who don't know what gout is, it is some kind of swelling that starts in your big toe and can even lead to a crippling disorder. i have never experienced any swelling in my feet or toe, just soreness and pain enough that i could almost not walk on them at all. hopefully this might help someone who was as bad off as me for these symptoms. from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Neat Trick for DIY roller painters
I've been doing something like that for a long time, but I use those plastic bags from the grocery (and everywhere else). I put the tray inside the bag and then with the judicious use of a piece of masking tape turned on itself, sticky side out, I can even make the corners behave. I do it 'cuz I'm bone lazy and hate to clean up more than I have to after painting. And as a military wife, I've done a bunch of painting over the years LOL Webwalker wrote: Saw a “professional” painting the other day... Take a piece of plastic (half a garbage bag will do nicely), and lay it across the roller pan. Push the plastic into the “corners” of the roller pan as best you can-—won’t fit exactly, of course since the plastic is 2-dimensional and the roller pan is 3-, but it isn’t critical. Now you may want to take a bit of masking tape and gather the plastic **outside** the pan at the corners (folding it down over the lip of the pan as you do so). If it it cumbersome, cut off excess ** outside** the pan beyond about 3 inches. Pour in your paint. And paint. When you are finished, gather the edges of the plastic and whatever paint is left will be in the center of the little “bag” you just made. Hold it over the paint can and cut a slit in the bottom. The excess paint can be reclaimed and your roller pan is already clean. Susan Webster To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] FW: dearly departed
Don't think I have seen this here before hope no one is offended. After being nearly snowbound for two weeks last winter, a Seattle man departed for his vacation in Miami Beach, where he was to meet his wife the next day at the conclusion of her business trip to Minneapolis. They were looking forward to pleasant weather and a nice time together. Unfortunately, there was some sort of mix up at the boarding gate, and the man was told he would have to wait for a later flight. He tried to appeal to a supervisor but was told the airline was not responsible for the problem and it would do no good to complain. Upon arrival at the hotel the next day, he discovered that Miami Beach was having a heat wave, and its weather was almost as uncomfortably hot as Seattle's was cold. The desk clerk gave him a message that his wife would arrive as planned. He could hardly wait to get to the pool area to cool off, and quickly sent his wife an e-mail, but due to his haste, he made an error in the e-mail address. His message therefore arrived at the home of an elderly preacher's wife whose even older husband had died only the day before. When the grieving widow opened her e-mail, she took one look at the monitor, let out an anguished scream, and fell to the floor dead. Her family rushed to her room where they saw this message on the screen: Dearest wife, Departed yesterday as you know. Just now got checked in. Some confusion at the gate. Appeal was denied. Received confirmation of your arrival tomorrow. Your loving husband. P.S. Things are not as we thought. You're going to be surprised at how hot it is down here. Jane UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA
--- suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From suzy Thu Oct 13 20:41:07 2005 X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.163.178.124; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:41:49 -0700 X-YahooFilteredBulk: 166.84.1.74 X-Originating-IP: [166.84.1.74] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Authentication-Results: mta342.mail.scd.yahoo.com from=arachne.com; domainkeys=fail (bad syntax) Received: from 166.84.1.74 (EHLO mail3.panix.com) (166.84.1.74) by mta342.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:41:44 -0700 Received: from dont.panix.com (dont.panix.com [166.84.0.211]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937D613A88E; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id j9E3f9G17692 for laceout; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) with ESMTP id j9E3f8Z08047 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.128]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 647B758B15 for lace@arachne.com; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38281 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Oct 2005 03:41:07 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fBZu7IZRfdqz/Jo/yV4kuSmuG5GyY4y1lCk/qr1WKd9eIX0MdfK/KPSi0/I0g1B8Wmu15s5O6UYtPn9u+MhiXWa4R9fUeisWJ+pL5ZTj/1eq1ffFRKlIAx65wjkECrvykur5mR38zlFIEdX7vgFHNQ5nmcHus1we9Z7A2gaJBUk= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [12.153.203.56] by web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:41:07 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA To: lace@arachne.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-to: suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List: lace Content-Length: 1848 i'm going to leave this letter as is just so everyone will know on lace chat what the conversation was about. i also said in the email, if i didn't say this clearly, that i wasn't sure and that i had heard from someone else it was considered antique after 20 years old. this is obviously not true and i wouldn't want to be responsible for misleading anyone or seeming to accuse anyone or any seller of misusing this label to make a sale. i appreciate knowing what erra a seller is really advertising by the responses i've already gotten from other arachians. so don't be so worried. i am not giving others the idea that america is allowed to cheat the public by lieing about the age of their items. this is not true at all. someone even printed the rules at to what age means what in america, so it was clearly explained and i'll find the email the nice and well informed person sent and send it to lace chat so everyone will know what the u.s. really considers to be antique, which is the same as the u.k. being the item at 100 years old. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/05 5:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suzy wrote: if its older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. In the UK an antique has to be at least 100 years old, so now anything made in or before 1905 is an antique. Next year it will be anything made in or before 1906. Anything younger than 100 years is a collectable. Made in the last 20 years would be termed a modern collectable. I think there a few exceptuions, but 100 years is the general rule. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Dear Suzy and Other Collectors, Twenty years old is not considered an antique in the USA. Perhaps some irresponsible sellers on eBay may have given you this impression, but it is incorrect. It is false advertising. Let us not give people all over the world the wrong impression. Collectible may be used, if you like. But remember that Collectible is almost anything these days. Then, there is the matter of Vintage. There are people who deliberately age items to make them appear to be Vintage. Beware! In the USA, all purchases abroad must be declared on Department of the Treasury Customs Declaration forms whether dutiable or not, and whether obtained by purchase, as a gift, or otherwise. If an item is 100 years old or older it is considered an Antique, making it exempt from duty taxation. You must be able to prove it is Antique, which collectors often do by obtaining a receipt from an antique dealer from whom the item was
