[lace] I need some lacing help Torchon Pendants by Susanne Thompson
I have the book Torchon Lace Purse Pendants by Susanne Thompson. I have to say that first of all Torchon lace is not one of my favorite laces to make...but I love these pendants. I have had this book for years nowand I keep picking it up and putting it down...and wanting to make some of these little purses. The one I want to make is A in the book. It has half stitch trails which cross. If anybody has this book can they look at it for me and maybe scan the page and make notations on the page to point me in the right directions on how to get started on the trails. Does anyone have a how to make these trails in any of their lacing books? I hope someone can help me. I really want to make these little bagsThank you in advance for all the help someone can give to me... Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] BEWARE - Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin * Circa1830 (6224228813)
I just noticed that the bid price on this bobbin has reached $61.00 with 1-1/4 days left for bidding. While I have bought a couple of bobbins listed by her that do look authentic ( I have the same research book too!) I think anyone buying this one is getting ripped off. I did write to her. What follows is what I stated to her. Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin * Circa1830 (6224228813) http://cgi.ebay.com/Gorgeous-Antique-Beaded-Bone-Lace-Bobbin-Circa1830_W0QQitemZ6224228813QQcategoryZ114QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Concerning the maker of the bobbin and its age, you should note a couple of things. One - the wire looks to new but may have been replaced two - the bobbin was made to receive the small beads that did not exist in Haskins time. They are new beads. three - the head style of the bobbin is not like any other of his bobbins. As a bobbinmaker I would reject this bobbin out of hand on this point alone. four - Even in the photo the bone looks to new a 175+ year old bobbin. While it may have some age I would place this at the 50 - 75 year age tops. I can create wear, it is the colour that gets you. five - unless you are traveling to the UK and purchasing these bobbins, you tend to handle far more Haskins and Abbots then ever traveled to the US. This is what I noted and stated as an opinion. What you do with the information is up to you and your conscience and morals. Kenn Van Dieren bobbins01 ** Bobbins by Van-Dieren Kenn Van-Dieren 2304 Clifford Avenue Rochester, NY 14609 Tel: 585.654.5711 Cell: 585.750.8842 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.bobbinmaker.com * - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Help in trying to contact
I am trying to make contact with Masako Imai from Tokyo, Japan. If you could contact me directly by email, I would be very grateful as I only have your mailing address. Sorry to post this to Arachne lists. Kind regards Pam Sharples England -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] French Translation wanted
As usual we are doing a French version of the advent calendar for The Lace Guild website, although this year we've had to share out the work between different volunteer translators. We are most grateful for their efforts, and all is ready for the launch day; however we still need someone to translate one of the patterns that comes later. If you are a native French speaker and have the time to translate a lace pattern from English into French we'd like to hear from you. Jean and David (in Glasgow) -- Jean Leader Glasgow, Scotland, UK Lace Guild web site: http://www.laceguild.org - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] I need some lacing help Torchon Pendants by Susanne Thompson
Hi Pam - I have the book, and I have actually worked that piece. But I'm not sure I understand your dilemma, so if you'll write to me privately, perhaps we can work this out! Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Celtic Dream Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Date: 11/28/2005 1:07:29 PM Subject: [lace] I need some lacing help Torchon Pendants by Susanne Thompson I have the book Torchon Lace Purse Pendants by Susanne Thompson. I have to say that first of all Torchon lace is not one of my favorite laces to make...but I love these pendants. I have had this book for years nowand I keep picking it up and putting it down...and wanting to make some of these little purses. The one I want to make is A in the book. It has half stitch trails which cross. If anybody has this book can they look at it for me and maybe scan the page and make notations on the page to point me in the right directions on how to get started on the trails. Does anyone have a how to make these trails in any of their lacing books? I hope someone can help me. I really want to make these little bagsThank you in advance for all the help someone can give to me... Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] more joy from New Orleans
Gentle Spiders, I discovered I have a DISGUSTING little problem. I pulled down my box (cardboard) of Christmas ornaments that was stored on an upper shelf in the garage. No water damage, but roaches, lots and lots of roaches moved in. Nasty, disgusting mess that I immediately took outside. I put on latex gloves and went through it sorting things. I have crochet ornaments that I made over the years (the lace connection) that have yellowed, aren't very stiff, and frankly any textile in the box that I can wash, I want to. So, my question - I used fabric stiffener (glue type) after I made them. Can I wash them then restiffen them? I really don't want to wear latex gloves when I decorate the tree, but I will this year! The ornaments have been wiped off, and are in plastic storage containers with tight fitting lids - to contain any more evil bugs that I didn't find. How can I or should I fumigate and/or clean the ornaments? My collection is a mix of of all mediums (paper, glass, fabric, metal...) that I've been collecting over the past 30 years. For future storage I'll be investing in a plastic tote that SEALS! Beth McCasland Metairie, Louisiana, USA where rain is coming off the Gulf of Mexico - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] A gorgeous rainy day :)
Gentle Spiders, The temperatures have risen somewhat since yesterday, and we decided not to turn on the heat. So I was sitting and shivering, then looking out the window and shivering some more - we're having another non-stop rain (26 hours to date) - when DH brought in the mail, and in it something with a Spanish stamp he said, as he tossed it on my pillow. It was my Christmas exchange card from Pam Mattioli and, oh, what a splendiferous thing it is! I hope that Pam has sent a scan of it to Barbara, because I'm not sure my photography will do it justice, though I'll do my best (couldn't do it today; the light was just too dismal, and I don't like using the flash for lace). I think the whole card is home-made. At least, I've never seen anything like it anywhere. It's a Christmas-red three-fold, with a cathedral window cut out in two of them. On the front, the window is outlined with an ornamental, gold, paper (?) braid, there are 4 gold ornamental corners and Happy Christmas above the window. Between the two cut out folds, there's a stained glass window: red, royal blue, green and yellow panes, soldered together in gold, surround a figure of a praying angel (mostly white glass, with yellow wings). It's lovely already, and yet, it's only the environment... :) On top of the stained-glass angel, there's the real one - in lace! An 8cmx5.5cm (3.25x2.25) piece of Point Ground lace, white, with a gold thread woven into its frame, has an angel at its centre. The piece matches the window (all but the arch) and the angel (head and torso in net, wings in honeycomb ground, skirt in mayflowers) matches the one in the window - it took me a while to realise the two windows were made independently... :) In her note, Pam wrote: The design is one I did for PBLC in 1997 and she sent me the pricking as well. I don't know who or what PBLC is, but he/she/it is lucky :) She also wrote: I hope you like the card. Like You don't apply a bland word like that to something as beautiful as this :) DH, when shown it (took me a couple of hours to contain myself g), summed it up beautifully: You _scored_. Big time. You'll need to do better yourself next year. Many, many thanks Pam; I'm _enchanted_; you've turned a dismal rainy day into a glowingly happy one. I'm not yet sure where she'll (I agree; it's a she g) end up dwelling - I think she's too fragile to hang on the tree by herself; I may hang the whole card. At the moment, she's propped up near the pillow, so I can gloat :) And thanks to Bev for organising this exchange and giving me such a wonderful sender. Though I feel almost guilty for having received this card; I'd have been happy with less, honest, I would... And I now feel bad about someone else _not_ getting it, as well as worrying about my recipient, who'll be getting a pretty card, but nothing as beautiful as this. And it's still raining :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] A gorgeous rainy day :)
Poole Bobbin Lace Circle?? Perhaps someone who's actually a member rather than someone like me who only grew up in the area can agree or disagree with me! :o) Helen At 01:13 29/11/2005, Tamara P Duvall wrote: In her note, Pam wrote: The design is one I did for PBLC in 1997 and she sent me the pricking as well. I don't know who or what PBLC is, but he/she/it is lucky :) Helen, Somerset, UK Forget the formulae, let's make lace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Marg. Hamer Books.
Helen referred to the Margaret Hamer booklets. There are 6 of them, 2 each in Torchon, Beds, and Bucks laces. They are designed for complete beginners, and some have pattern sheets at the back. There is also a similar booklet on Mounting and Finishing Lace, by Hamer and Waller. Regards from Liz in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] BEWARE - Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin * Circa1830
I, too, don't think it looks That old! If it is - well it has not made much lace! :) I browsed the sellers other stuff (clicked on the Elegant ArtsAntiques, - Needlework tools)- and on Page 2 of the list, I came across another bone bobbin dated 1850 which Does look to be that age. I had to click on the little camera to get the picture, but it is going for $9 at the moment. Regards from Liz in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Lace license plates
Tamara wrote: For non-US Arachneans who, doubtless, are reading this and are *appalled* at our frivolity... :) Not really. In the UK the price of personalised number plates varies, but you can only choose from plates that already exist but are not assigned to a car already. You can sell your plate if you happen to get one that's worth selling. Even with a personalised plate, there are rules about the quantity of numbers and letters, and the spacing of them is fixed. The plate is illegal if it doesn't confirm to the correct spacing, and you can be prosecuted. There's a combination of letters and numbers, with the older plates having a space between the groups of letters and groups of numbers. The age of the car and where it's registered is coded in the plate. My previous car's plate was L 639 PYD, and the spacing's fixed. The L at the beginning indicates the year it was first registered (1994), the following year was M and so on. The numbers are random, and the group of three letters shows where it was first registered to those who know - you can look them up to see where if you're that interesteds. During the 70s and 80s, the single letter was at the end. When they were all used up, the single letter was moved to the beginning. My current car is HD 54 BJV - H means it was first registered in the Dorset/Hampshire area, D is the registration office in the town of Bournemouth (A-J is Bournemouth, K-Z is Southampton). 5 indicates between September and April (0 is between April and September), the 4 indicates 2004 (April to September 2005 would therefore be 05, September 2005 to April 2006 would be 55). The three letters are random. You can buy a personalised plate, or transfer one you you already have to a different car, but it must not give the impression that the car is younger than it really is. So I could transfer the number from my previous car to the new one, but not transfer the number from the current car to one first registered in say the year 2000. So-called celebrities frequently have personalised plates Bruce Forsythe has the plate BF 1 (from before year letters were included) - to most people BF means 'b* fool'. Dudley Moore had DUD 1. The Department of Vehicle Licensing has a whole list of plates available for sale, prices depending on whether they think the combinatiom of letters and numbers would be really popular or not. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Arachne etc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address but you have to sign on and I don't remember how I did that! Try sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a line reading subscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that doesn't work come back to me and I'll try to find out another route. You should get a post with the courtesy rules for the board and the address for the archive etc. Is this the same Sutton where the Cheffin's Sutton saleground is? I think it must be. We go there a couple of tiems a year to their vintage tractor sales. My DH collects various assorted vintage farm stuff. The circular sock machines are dating from the 1870s to the 1930s (there are a few newer ones, but very few) and work basically like a normal knitting machine but with a cylindrical layout. Have a look at this website (http://www.oldtymestockings.com/SockMachineMuseum.html) to get an idea what they look like. We have just come back from the first UK meeting of C(ircular)S(ock)M(achine)ers which was in Bournemouth. We had people from across the country and Switzerland, the US and Canada. An excellent weekend. Mostly very expensive to buy on e-bay but we have got most of ours from farm sales and the like, at sensible prices. They knit socks and anything else you can think of that needs a tube. They can also do flat knitting but only narrowish strips so for a cardigan you'd have lots of seams :-( I do and teach mostly bobbin lace but can do and teach needlelace. I teach most bobbin laces, but Milanese is what I am in most demand for. I'm 54 and newly married since Valentine's day (corny, I know, but it was the start of half term week and Richard's a teacher too) with husband #2, after 7 years together. Live in Stamford, but would love to be very, very rural. Bye for now, as I'm supposed to be catching up on washing and other boring stuff after not being at home much for what seems like weeks now. Jacquie To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Lacy car licence plates
Mine is BBNLACE, BA's is DOLACE, Kay's is MKNLACE (mine before I learned that it was her email address and people assumed my car was hers!) Any time you go to the NCRL meeting, there are always a lot of tags in the parking lot, but I don't remember most of them. C -Original Message- From: Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 27, 2005 10:46 PM To: chat Arachne lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: Lacy car licence plates On Nov 27, 2005, at 16:31, Janice Blair wrote: I know that Tamara has T N LACE on her car plate but I was wondering if anyone can think of a good lacemaking personalized plate. I used to have ALIEN when I first came to the U.S. because I had to carry an Alien card around with me. I am now a citizen so that does not apply but the only thing I can think of is LACE MKR and that has been taken in Illinois. Do you have a personalized lacemaking plate in your state or can you bright spiders think of anything related to Bobbin Lace or Tatting that would make a good plate? Send them to the chat list as it has been quiet in recent weeks, maybe we can come up with a list of them for future reference. I believe if it includes a number the plate is cheaper. First off... Congratulaions on your citizenship - it's a heady feeling, when you exchange that Visa card/drivers licence look-alike for a real passport, no? g I actually wanted TLACE for my car (once I learnt to drive, that is g) but, can you believe it? It was already taken in VA (I think by Tamara Webb, near DC)... You probably should come to Ithaca one year - the parking lot of the hotel is *full* of cars with personalized licence plates related to lacemaking and all are imaginative - you could maybe find one from another state that you could borrow for yours. I'm Bcc-ing this to two Virginians - both of whom have lace-related plates and both of whom have loads of imagination, so might create more plate suggestions. Also to some other US-Arachneans who are not on lace-chat and of whose car plates I have no knowledge, but who tend to have bright ideas. And, to my DS, who's a long-suffering lace-orphan, with an unseemly liking for puns and other word-games... :) As far as I know, in VA, it makes no difference whether it's all letters/symbols or all numbers - the price for a personalized set of plates is the same. But, if a number is likely to lower the price in Illinois... How about: LACE4ME TAT4FUN No numbers: B-L-ACE (alternatively: BL ACE, but I like the first better) BLDZINE JANSBL LACEBUG (best on the smallest Volksvagen, to keep 'em guessin' g) I'd also talk to teenagers; what with their cell texting, they're real whizzes at scrunching words down to the absolute minimum :) I don't know what the limit is in Illinois, but in VA it's (I think) 8 characters (letters, symbols, numbers, spaces) for most plates, but 7 for some others, so I stuck with 7 as the limit, to be on the safe side. For non-US Arachneans who, doubtless, are reading this and are *appalled* at our frivolity... :) Unlike in many other countries, personalized licence plates here are dirt cheap. The prices vary, from state to state, but no state charges enough to feed an African village for a year as one of my UK correspondents wrote once, fulminating... In VA, they're probably cheaper than anywhere else - $50 on top of the usual plate fee, but only the first time around. Afterwards, you pay - once a year (a small discount if you pay for 2 yrs at a time g) - only for the stickers, like everyone else. So, we play around with the plates' messages a lot... My first set was: NU2THIS - a fair warning, though only people who'd seen me try to parallel park fully understood it :) My second set was MBVLENT - I learnt to drive late and against my better judgement. The third set I wanted I never got; my DS still shared the car with me at the time, and he objected to driving one which said FMK9 (a femme canine = bitch). So I came up with TNLACE, and was asked: why Tennessee lace, if you're in Virginia? (TN is short for Tennessee, like VA is short for Virginia). The next - and last - set was T N LACE. My DH is only on his second set of personalized plates; he resisted the craze for quite a while :) The current one, which he acquired at retirement, says: 2DLDDUV. Nobody can interpret it correctly, which ticks him off, but he's too lazy to think up another one :) He *says* that, when he was young, toodleedee meant goodbye. So the whole says goodbye, Duv (all). I'm too young and too foreign to either confirm or disprove his claim :) My favourite licence plates... QT. Seen in Norfolk, VA, and the girl driving the car was really good looking :) PB4UGO. Spotted in Lexington. The man said they had 4 kids, all under 12, and that that was what his wife said every time they were planning to go somewhere as a family. TH8ER. Another local plate, on a car
[lace-chat] Whoops - Apologies to all
I am so sorry to send a private message to chat!!! As you may be able to deduce, I got the arachne address from my address book to copy and paste into the body of the letter, and then forgot to change it at the top. Good job I didn't say anything rude. Jacquie, red-faced in Lincolnshire To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fairy help
Hi All Thank you for your offers of help with obtaining a fairy.It is very much appreciated. Happy Lacemaking Sue (in Southampton U.K.) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.9/185 - Release Date: 28/11/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Lace license plates
The car with the number plate ER 2 lives in my small town. it belongs to local restaurateur Eddie Rabbiotti. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Help in trying to contact
I am trying to make contact with Masako Imai from Tokyo, Japan. If you could contact me directly by email, I would be very grateful as I only have your mailing address. Sorry to post this to Arachne lists. Kind regards Pam Sharples England -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Lace license plates
On Nov 28, 2005, at 17:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patricia in Wales) wrote: The car with the number plate ER 2 lives in my small town. it belongs to local restaurateur Eddie Rabbiotti. And _not_ to Queen Elizabeth the 2nd when she's off to Wales for holidays??? How funny... :) You figure there's more to it than just intitials? Like, maybe, a play on the word queen? An whence the 2? Love it, thanks. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: Lacy car licence plates
OK, you've seen a direct response from one of the people I'd BCCd the message to. Which, BTW, is something worth of note: it confirms the old rule, which goes back to the original split of Arachne into Arachne-lace and Arachne-lace-chat: you have to be subscribed to both lists in order to _read_ the messages posted on both, but subscrition to only one list gets you _posting_ priviledges on both. From: R.P. I always wanted the plate 1 2 PLAY but in California you pay extra every year for vanity plates, like $35/year. For lacemakers? BBNLACE MAK LACE BOBNTAT CTC SHTLBUG -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Asterisks: Was: Re: [lace] Re: Danish translation, please?
Moved to Chat for topic drift: At 12:49 AM 11/28/05 -0500, Tamara P Duvall wrote: In the old PC language, stars signify italics, and it's _xyz_ which signify underlines, so I've been PC un-PC until y'all called me on it. But the PC PC underline is both harder to achieve and less visible, so I'd as soon return to the old - PC-wise un-PC - version... Current usage seems to be to use asterisks for *emphasis* -- because, as you note, they are more visible than underscores, and because they have a history of being used for emphasis in print media -- _*H*Y*M*A*N* *K*A*P*L*A*N*_, for example -- and to use underscores when _underlines_ are specifically wanted, which allows a useful distinction between emphasis and, for example, the titles of books. A word which is starred in ASCII would be underlined in handwriting or typescript, but would be set in italics if printed, so using italic codes to indicate underlining doesn't strike me as any more reprehensible than using underlining to indicate italics, which is the convention in typescript. I don't know what the manuscript protocol is if you really do want the passage underlined. There are special underlines to indicate ~boldface~ and =small caps=, but my abbreviated list of proofreaders' marks doesn't say anything about underline. I don't, just offhand, recall ever seeing an underlined passage in a printed book -- maybe you *can't* indicate underlining in a manuscript. (There is also an ASCII code for strike-through: put a string of ^Hs after the word to be stricken. This is a remnant of an early system in which control-H was a backspace.) The only difficulty with using stars as emphasis is that it leads to confusion when stars are also used as asterisks. I try to use [1] instead of * -- which works, really, only when you also have a [2]. Sometimes I remove the breathless emphasis when I add a footnote. Speaking of footnotes -- there's an interesting convention on the SF hierarchy of Usenet of using a star in square brackets ([*]) as an abbreviation for I did not understand that remark; please provide the footnote. OB off-color: I used to know a bit of doggerel that ended: Wasn't Mary a perfect fool, her little *. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's wet and cold To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
