[lace] Getting to NEC Lace Fair from NA

2005-12-05 Thread Jean Nathan

Bev wrote:

 i propose
you all in the UK adopt one of us in NA and we go on a road trip to
next year's NEC. you can then watch us contribute to your local
economy vbg

Unfortunately the only airline travelling from/to the west of the UK into 
Birmingham International airport (which has a shuttle service into the 
National Exhibition Centre) appears to be Air Transat out of Toronto. Don't 
know if it's a no-frills organisation or not.


I know that quite a lot of people fly to New York for Christmas shopping, so 
there must be some cheapish flights to/from there to somewhere in the UK. 
Trouble with the rest of the US would be the cost of getting to New York to 
then get a cheap flight across the pond.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Godmother's present

2005-12-05 Thread julie newman
Hi everyone
   
  I made an initial C for a little girl called Calista in Honiton in 120 
thread, put it in a silver frame on red velvet. It looked marvellous, you could 
make a letter in a different sort of lace and it would be quite effective
   
  Good luck
  from sunny Australia


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Re: [lace] Godmother's present

2005-12-05 Thread Dorte Tennison

Hello Julie
Is there a chance to see a picture of it?
Dorte 


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[lace] Re: winner of Advent Raffle (stamps)

2005-12-05 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Lacefriends,
Here I am again after a wonderful weekend in Berlin with three very 
interesting art exhibitions.
There were nearly fourty lacers intersted in winning the stamps before 
I left HH. I put them all in my little top-hat which was full now. 
Yesterday evening I found new ones in my mail-box and the last ones 
arrived during the night. At the end 53, oh dear, and only one 
stamp-block.
Because they were to much for the hat I pulled out a big wonderful 
treasure-box blue outside, white inside. I did all names in it and 
after breakfast ask DP to find out the winner.

And the winner is:tralalala:Lisa McClure

CONGRATULATION

And for the others.:  to take part is the pleasure

Lisa please send your snail-mail-adress that I can send the stamps to 
you.

Greetings

Ilske from Hamburg in Germany

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Re: [lace] Christchurch

2005-12-05 Thread Alix Hengen
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 22:49 +, Jean Nathan wrote:
 Helen wrote:
 
 To me, Christchurch has always been part of Dorset! :o)
 
 Poole has always been Dorset. Bournemouth, which is next door to (east of 
 Poole) used to be in Hampshire, but is now in Dorset, much to a lot of 
 people's disgust. So I'm not sure if Christchurch, which is next to 
 Bournemouth (east of it) is still in Hampshire or if it 'moved' west with 
 Bournemouth into Dorset.
 
 Jean in Poole, definitely in Dorset, UK 


My daughter lives in Christchurch and her adress names Christchurch-
Dorset

Alix  

reom Luxembourgh

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2005 #380

2005-12-05 Thread Whitham

another version is he told the father to put the girls' shoes/socks
(it varies) outside - and the next morning there were gold coins in
the shoes/socks. I like to think that is the source of the tradition
of putting gold-foil-covered chocolate coins in the children's
stockings at Christmas.

Hi all,

As kids we always put our shoe in the window and in the morning there was 
chocolates in it.  We did this for about 10 nights before Christmas. My 
parents are Danish so it must be a tradition there/then!


Thanks for bringing back this memory!!


From a snowy Surrey, BC

Irene Whitham

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[lace] New Book by Angela Thompson

2005-12-05 Thread Jeriames
Our Arachne, Angela!  

Her book has finally been published by Batsford in England, ISBN 
0-7134-8953-7, and is available there.  It will come out in 2006 in the United 
States.  It 
is called Embroiderer's and Quilter's Sourcebook.  Excellent photography.  
Ninety percent of 1,000 color images are of items in Angela's private 
collection.  A beautiful book, but with a limited presentation of lace.

Contact me privately for further information.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Collecting lace

2005-12-05 Thread Tiny Dell
Hi,

Does anyone know the highest price ever payed for a piece of lace?

Tiny

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 Hi Tiny Dell and All,  You didn't say what country you live in but in the
US
 I find some nice pieces of lace in Junque stores.  Not antique shops but
 places with old stuff, some have different dealers with booths in one
large
 store.  I've gotten some nice pieces from eBay
 but you have to be very careful.  Ithaca Lace Days and the IOLI
Conventions
 always have lace dealers in the vendors room and it's wonderful to see
what
 they have!

 One of the best things I've done is to make sure everyone I know (and have
 ever met) knows that I love lace so I've been given some amazing pieces.
 I've always done fiber arts and many years ago a friend gave me a box of
 lace she found in the trash behind an antique store.  It's only been the
 last few years that I've known what I have!

 As has already been mentioned, a good lace ID book is also needed.  I
 particularly like Guide to Lace and Linens by Elizabeth Kurella ISBN
 0-930625-89-7 and The Identification of Lace by Pat Earnshaw ISBN
 0-85263-701-2.  Santina Levey's book Lace - A History is fabulous but
 quite expensive, you could try getting it through Interlibrary loan.
Being
 a book collector I like to have as many as I can because they all have
 different things to say about the laces and different pictures.

 I love having bits and pieces of different kinds of lace and they're very
 handy if you do a demonstration.  You can show people the different kinds
 when they say my aunt used to do that.  Now I *try* to focus on the tape
 laces like Battenberg though I found a cool piece in Denver that is cut
 work - one corner of the pattern is finished and another is started with a
 heavy piece of something basted behind it.  I love partially done pieces
of
 lace G.  I also bought myself a little Point de Gaze butterfly.  Since I
 took Irma Osterman's class in Ithaca last year I have a new appreciation
of
 PdG and the Butterfly wasn't too expensive.  I also know it will be some
 years (if ever) before I make my own PdG butterfly!

 Taking a lace ID class will really open the world up for you too!!  I
don't
 seem to sit down and read the books I have and it's not the same as having
a
 teacher and many pieces of lace to look at while you're hearing about how
 the lace is made and how it differs from other laces and about its
history.
 Arachne is a good place to learn about different laces too!!  I was so
happy
 with the recent Sprang discussion - the piece from the museum was
fabulous!!
 But the name always makes me smile for some reason so I love when it
 resurfaces G.

 Jane in Vermont, USA where the leaves outside my windows are all yellow -
 looks like a sunny day even when it's cloudy!
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[lace] card exchange

2005-12-05 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Bev,
  I know the deadline is tomorrow for the card exchange, and I have sent and 
received my cards already, but I cannot find the email that I know I saved 
regarding the email address that we are to send our scans to for the web page.  
Can you repeat that information as I am sure I am not the only one to be 
forgetful.  
   
  I will send a scan of the card I sent to Martina De Wille, in Schmidmuhlen, 
Germany.  
   
  Jeanette, in Kleinmond, South Africa, would you like me to scan the card I 
received or have you sent a scan off already?  Your card will go up with my 
other lace cards tomorrow as I am in the process of decorating my home for 
Christmas as I have a big party for my English group next Sunday, 29 for 
dinner!  Lots of lace already on the tree but I have to collect other pieces 
that are on permanent exhibit around the house to add to them.

  Thanks,
  Janice


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/

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Re: [lace] card exchange

2005-12-05 Thread Barbara Joyce
I can fill in a bit of the information, and it's probably a good idea to
furnish it to all.

Please send a scan or photo of your lace--the one you made and/or the one
you received to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It would be interesting to learn a little
more about the lace, such as who made it, to whom it was sent, what thread,
the name of the designer, etc. I'll be happy to post almost anything you'd
like to include.

I have received a good number of scans (can't recall if I received one from
Jeanette, and I'm not at the computer that has the scans on it, so I can't
check right now), but am eager for more. So please get out that camera or
scanner and join in the fun!

Today I received an absolutely wonderful card from my lace exchange
partner in England, Andrea Lamble. It's a darling multi-colored robin, and
you'll all get to see him in a couple of weeks when the web site goes up.

Bev, thank you so much for organizing this year's exchange. What fun! :-)

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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 Hi Bev,
 I know the deadline is tomorrow for the card exchange, and I have sent and
 received my cards already, but I cannot find the email that I know I saved
 regarding the email address that we are to send our scans to for the web page.
 Can you repeat that information as I am sure I am not the only one to be
 forgetful.  
  
 I will send a scan of the card I sent to Martina De Wille, in Schmidmuhlen,
 Germany.  
  
 Jeanette, in Kleinmond, South Africa, would you like me to scan the card I
 received or have you sent a scan off already?  Your card will go up with my
 other lace cards tomorrow as I am in the process of decorating my home for
 Christmas as I have a big party for my English group next Sunday, 29 for
 dinner!  Lots of lace already on the tree but I have to collect other pieces
 that are on permanent exhibit around the house to add to them.
 
 Thanks,
 Janice
 
 
 Janice Blair
 Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
 http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/
 
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Re: [lace] card exchange/send digi-photos

2005-12-05 Thread bevw
Hi everyone,
Thank you Barbara for the photo destination again:

 Please send a scan or photo of your lace--the one you made and/or the one
 you received to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It would be interesting to learn a little
 more about the lace, such as who made it, to whom it was sent, what thread,
 the name of the designer, etc. I'll be happy to post almost anything you'd
 like to include.


 Bev, thank you so much for organizing this year's exchange. What fun! :-)

You are welcome - it has been for me, and fun to have someone willing
to post the pictures!

Great to hear from you, Janice. I have high hopes that everyone else
has sent theirs, and all the cards will be received soon!
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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[lace] last reminder for lace card exchange!

2005-12-05 Thread bevw
Hi everyone, most especially those in the lace card exchange - you've
all made your cards right? and sent them, or getting them to the PO
asap?!!

If you forgot to take a scan or digiphoto before mailing, perhaps your
recipient can do so, and e-mail the picture to Barbara
[EMAIL PROTECTED] who will post them to her website later on, after
everyone has received their cards.
Yes it has been fun. There were 53 pairings; some were in the cycle of
A sending to Be sending to C Z sending to A - and others were
directly paired when the cycle system got complicated.
Now my Christmas wish is that everyone completed their part of the exchange ;)

If, by December 20 you haven't received a card, please contact me
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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[lace] card exchange

2005-12-05 Thread lacespider
Hi all,

I sent my exchange card away to Australia today. I hope it has a safe trip 
overseas.

I received a lovely card in the mail today from Dianne Taylor of Dunlap 
Tennessee. I will hang my red and gold BL candle on our tree when we get it up. 
I love having a new lace treasure to hang on the tree. 

Thank you Dianne, it is very pretty. Please e-mail me your e-mail address so I 
can thank you more personally?

Now I'm really getting in the Holiday spirit, getting a pretty Christmas 
treasure on top of the very cold snap that has hit here. Puts me in a very 
Christmassy mood.

Well, back to knitting furiously on the latest sweater project, this on for a 
young nephew. I think I may add a star to this one even though it isn't on the 
pattern. Suede yarn feels sooo good!

Michele Hitch
in chilly Salinas, California
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[lace-chat] Antique Bone Fansticks

2005-12-05 Thread delia.palin
I have bought two sets of antique fansticks, both made of bone, one of which 
has gold paint decoration on it.  They both have the old, very dirty and 
torn, fanleaves on them, which I want to remove so that I can make my own 
bobbin lace to attach.  Could anyone please tell me the safest way to remove 
the remains of the old fanleaves without damaging the bone?  Thank you.

Dee Palin
Gloucestershire 


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[lace-chat] Antiwue Bone Fansticks - Again!

2005-12-05 Thread delia.palin
I forgot to mention that one of the sticks is broken about an inch from the 
top.  What glue can I safely use to repair it, please?  Thank you.

Dee Palin
Gloucestershire 


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Re: [lace-chat] Peeling mushrooms

2005-12-05 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi Jane et al,

My mum also still peels mushrooms, but I don't - but mum still does the
mushrooms her way when she comes to our house!I am a bit too impatient
to peel them, and I decided long ago that the heat in the cooking would kill
off any bugs that are lurking, and washing them will get rid of the mould
they are grown in!

Carol - in Suffolk UK.

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[lace-chat] Observations...

2005-12-05 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

I was demonstrating on Friday evening, after a horrendous trip back to Suffolk
from Wales on Thursday, so probably not at my best but 

There I was, showing some youngsters on the 'Have-a-Go' pillows how to make
lace, and explaining as they went along.   Imagine my surprise to be tapped on
the shoulder by a lady I had not seen standing behind me, who asked why the
workers on the snake were black.   (I had just told the child that the workers
were the ones which did the work, and they went back and forth down the
pricking.)   I told the lady in question they were black because I wanted a
different colour for the workers, and the bobbins on that pillow were ordinary
wood, but if she looked at the other 'Have-a-Go' pillow, the workers were
medium coloured wood. and the passives were ebony.

She pursed her lips, and 'hmmm-ed' a bit, and when I asked her why she wanted
to know, she said that she had hoped that the workers were not black because
the slaves were black and did all the work.

I am still not sure whether she was taking political correctness to extremes,
whether she was being humorous (?), or whether she really did feel that making
lace had racist undertones - but she did stop me in my tracks, and made me
wonder if I ought to think carefully about what colour and shape my worker and
passive bobbins are in future.

Carol - in Suffolk UK.

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Re: [lace-chat] Observations...

2005-12-05 Thread suzy
was the woman black?  i think she might have taken the political
correctness a little too far.  although i have not researched lace so
thouroghly that i would know for sure, but i have never seen an article
where lace was made by the slaves or maids.  it was the aristocrats who
were only allowed to make lace for a while.  the poor were not allowed
to make lace at all.  maybe she was just being a little crazy over the
situation. 


--- Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I told the lady in question they were black because I
 wanted a different colour for the workers, and the bobbins on that
pillow were ordinary wood, but if she looked at the er 'Have-a-Go'
pillow, the workers were medium coloured wood. and the passives were
ebony. She pursed her lips, and 'hmmm-ed' a bit, and when I asked her
why she wanted to know, she said that she had hoped that the workers
were not black because the slaves were black and did all the work. I am
still not sure whether she was taking political correctness to
extremes, whether she was being humorous (?), or whether she really did
feel that making lace had racist undertones - but she did stop me in my
tracks, and made me
 wonder if I ought to think carefully about what colour and hape my
worker and passive bobbins are in future.
 
 Carol - in Suffolk UK.


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[lace-chat] secret pal

2005-12-05 Thread Melinda Weasenforth
Dear Brenda,

Please write to me, since we have changed from dial up to dsl. I have lost
most all my contacts, I need everybody's addresses to fill up my address book.
But I need my secret pals address one last time so I can mail out her
package.

Thank you,
Lynn
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[lace-chat] Re: Peeling mushrooms

2005-12-05 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  Thanks for all the comments on peeling mushrooms.  Except for old
ones I have now peeled my last mushroom VBG.  I even bought a mushroom
brush today (I was in the hardware store and it appeared right in front of
me).  Anything to make cooking a little faster is much appreciated!

Regarding Perfectionism- I think it serves no useful purpose.  I try to
strive for perfect only when I'm making lace and then I know there is really
no such thing as perfect so I do the best I can.  I can't remember if my
mother peeled mushrooms or not.  It just seemed like what my family would
have done so there is no rut there.  I know my mother peeled the carrots
before cooking them.  That I stopped doing after I met DH and found out not
everybody does.  I just give them a scrub.  Actually he would like some
peels left on the potatoes when I mash them but I usually forget and peel
them completely.  He's a good DH though because he just wants his dinner and
doesn't complain about what it is VBG.

Jane in Vermont, USA where it got into the 40s today (5+C) and melted some
of the snow.
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Re: [lace-chat] Observations...

2005-12-05 Thread CLIVE Rice

Dear Carol,

I just came back on lace-chat after being away awhile - have stayed on 
lace,

and want to make a comment on this.

Bloody well use whatever you want!  I would have asked the dolt, I wonder
why anything black bothers you...Do you have black kin in your heritage?
She would have crept away never to comment to a lacemaker again...

We meet this sort of inuendos constantly in the South and ignore it as most
of the educated, non-militant blacks do as well.  The militant whites are
worse than the militant blacks.  Here in Virginia, my close friend is black
and I do not call her Afro-American any more than I call Friend Husband
English-American or Haslemere-Surrey-English-Conneticut-American.  .  We
ignore the militant whites who use the Confederate Battle Flag to incite 
and

stir a pot that has been off the fire many, many years.  So...Ignore

Happy Lacemaking
Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA where it is happily snowing

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From: Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED].


Hi All,
 There I was, showing some youngsters on the 'Have-a-Go' pillows how to 
make lace, and explaining as they went along.   Imagine my surprise to be 
tapped on the shoulder by a lady I had not seen standing behind me, who 
asked why the workers on the snake were black.   
She pursed her lips, and 'hmmm-ed' a bit, and when I asked her why she 
wanted to know, she said that she had hoped that the workers were not 
black because the slaves were black and did all the work.
...but she did stop me in my tracks, and made me wonder if I ought to think 
carefully about what colour and shape my worker and

passive bobbins are in future.



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[lace-chat] Peeling mushrooms

2005-12-05 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Jane,
  I remember being told not to wash mushrooms but I can remember why, maybe it 
was if you were going to fry them.  I usually cut of the end of the stem and 
rinse them under running water as I always forget that I have a mushroom brush 
at the bottom of my sink untensil jar.  I had a decorative vase for putting my 
scrub brush and cloths, etc., in that I kept on the corner of the sink top, 
very hand, but being clumsy recently I broke it.  I replaced it with a smaller 
white vase and the mushroom brush took up too much room and the other stuff 
tended to fall out, so this evening I stuck the brush in the cupboard under the 
sink.  Maybe I should rescue it and add it to my pillow tools.
  Janice


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
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[lace-chat] Teddy bear game

2005-12-05 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Does anyone know the URL for the stack of teddy bears that you click on and 
they fall down?

An inane game that keeps tiny minds occupied for a while!!
I have the bubble wrap game, but can't find the teddy bear stack.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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[lace-chat] Re: Observations...

2005-12-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:19, Carol Adkinson wrote:

She pursed her lips, and 'hmmm-ed' a bit, and when I asked her why she 
wanted
to know, she said that she had hoped that the workers were not black 
because

the slaves were black and did all the work.

I am still not sure whether she was taking political correctness to 
extremes,

whether she was being humorous (?)


My bet would be like Betty Ann's (welcome back to chat, BA. I'll adjust 
your joke-list membership in a minute) - a PC fa-nut-ic, taking a 
(basically decent) principle to absurd lengths. And fanatics have no 
sense of humour, either individually or as a group... *Especially* as a 
group g


It may be an apocryphal story, but I've been told that, at an early 
point of 'puter explosion, some spell-checks were also PC-checks; 
some replaced *every* black with Afro-American, coming up with text 
absurdities such as Afro-American ink...



she did stop me in my tracks, and made me
wonder if I ought to think carefully about what colour and shape my 
worker and

passive bobbins are in future.


Cheese, Louise... Surely, you have more commonsense than worry about a 
nut? She'd have found something to carp on no matter what colour or 
shape (whips, anyone?) your bobbins were... Brown ones - Latinos, 
Native Indians - aren't any better than black ones as workers, if 
you're gonna push the idea to the extreme edge.


Come to think of it... There's *no* PC-safe solution :)

If all your bobbins (passives and workers) are black: of course, you 
want all your work done by the downtrodden, without dirtying your 
fingers
If your passives are light wood and workers are black: you put all the 
work load onto the downtrodden, with the whites living the life of 
Riley
If your passives are black and your workers are white: sure, keep the 
blacks passive and voiceless, with the single white lording over them
If your pillow is dressed in a mix of white, black and brown bobbins: 
you pretend to be without prejudices, but I notice that some -- the 
whites -- have a lighter job than others


Given a true fanatic, it's hard to win an argument. Given a true 
fanatic with a modicum of brains (a rare occurence, but happens), it's 
almost impossible to win...


I'd store it as one of those priceless experiences, to dine out on for 
years (have some of my own, mostly collected from the citizenship 
application form. Unfortunatley, very few Americans find them funny, 
though Europeans invariably do g)...


On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:52, suzy wrote:


although i have not researched lace so
thouroghly that i would know for sure, but i have never seen an article
where lace was made by the slaves or maids.  it was the aristocrats who
were only allowed to make lace for a while.  the poor were not allowed
to make lace at all.


Um... Suz, I think you got the wrong tiger by the tail... The sumptuary 
laws (in Europe) forbade anyone but aristocracy to *wear* the lace; 
anyone was allowed to *make* it and, indeed, the poor often did - it 
was one way of relieving poverty.


As for slaves making lace... There's very little record that they did, 
but neither is there any record to the contrary; there was very little 
lace made in US at the time, period. The domestic slaves did things 
like mending and sewing and some embroidery (how likely is it that the 
lady of the house embroidered all the big ticket items like testers, 
bed-covers, etc?).  There's no reason why a domestic slave with skill 
for textiles might not have been taught lacemaking, if the owner could 
teach it.


A skilled slave was worth more in a re-sale value than a field-hand 
(it's the same today; college-educated folk earn, in general, about 
twice as much as highschool drop-outs, according to the 
business/economy sections of NYTimes), so it was in the owner's 
interest to push such education (even discounting the immediate profit 
in the form of what such slave would produce for the owner's use). On 
the slave's side, having a skill was a way to eke out a slightly higher 
standing as well as a slightly less onerous lot in life, so they would 
not have objected to being trained...


My husband has some furniture which had been slave-made on the 
plantation his ancestors used to hold. It's known as Uncle Alexander's 
table (chairs, bed, etc), made by Jimmy. The Jimmy in question was a 
highly-prized slave, because he could carve wood into beautiful shapes. 
But, when he could carve no longer, he wasn't sold off into a more 
physically demanding servitude; he stayed at the estate, teaching other 
slaves.


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[lace-chat] Re: Peeling mushrooms (and other things)

2005-12-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Dec 5, 2005, at 16:57, Jane Viking Swanson wrote:

I know my mother peeled the carrots before cooking them.  That I 
stopped doing after I met DH and found out not everybody does.  I just 
give them a scrub.


Given the reports on how good the peel is for you, I considered doing 
the same.No matter how much I scrub, the d...d carrots taste earthy 
if not peeled, so, unless I'm aiming at that earthy aspect, I peel 
them. Ditto the taters, beets, and all other root veggies. It's all a 
mater of balance between the efficiency (speed) and taste and, for me, 
the taste takes precedence.


Actually he would like some peels left on the potatoes when I mash 
them but I usually forget and peel them completely.


The only taters I don't peel are the new ones, with the very fine 
skin. But since those are out-of-sight expensive in the US (in Poland 
they were special, but not unreasonable), I don't do it but 
once-twice a year. At which point, they're *so* special, I'm not likely 
to forget to leave them un-peeled :) For mashed potatoes, I use the 
cheapest available and they have to be peeled (and the bad spots 
removed).


Jane in Vermont, USA where it got into the 40s today (5+C) and melted 
some

of the snow.


We got your snow. First fall of the season, and not quite enough to 
make a problem regarding the driveway, but it did blind my car, so I 
postponed running errands till tomorrow -- to lazy to sweep it odd the 
windows :)

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Peeling mushrooms

2005-12-05 Thread Joy Beeson
At 04:57 PM 12/5/05 -0500, Jane Viking Swanson wrote:

 I even bought a mushroom
 brush today (I was in the hardware store and it appeared right in front 
 of me).  Anything to make cooking a little faster is much appreciated!

If it's anything like the brushes I buy, reserve the mushroom brush for 
removing cornsilk, reserve the cornsilk brush for scrubbing potatoes, reserve 
the potato brush for removing rust, and buy a horsehair complexion brush for 
cleaning mushrooms.  

I just wipe them with a paper towel -- on the rare occasions that I buy them.  
I like them best in a butter, chicken liver, and mushroom gravy served over 
rice -- and we are much too fat to eat butter gravy as a main dish.  

If fresh mushrooms are to be used in a wet dish, I hold them cap up under 
running water -- even when they are to be used in soup, I try to keep water out 
of the gills -- and rub them with my bare hands.  Then towel dry immediately.  

As for peeling them -- heavens to murgatroyd!  The skins are the best part!

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where our first serious snow is on the ground -- 
and I stayed in all through a rare sunny day.  

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[lace-chat] card exchange

2005-12-05 Thread lacespider
Hi all,

I sent my exchange card away to Australia today. I hope it has a safe trip 
overseas.

I received a lovely card in the mail today from Dianne Taylor of Dunlap 
Tennessee. I will hang my red and gold BL candle on our tree when we get it up. 
I love having a new lace treasure to hang on the tree. 

Thank you Dianne, it is very pretty. Please e-mail me your e-mail address so I 
can thank you more personally?

Now I'm really getting in the Holiday spirit, getting a pretty Christmas 
treasure on top of the very cold snap that has hit here. Puts me in a very 
Christmassy mood.

Well, back to knitting furiously on the latest sweater project, this on for a 
young nephew. I think I may add a star to this one even though it isn't on the 
pattern. Suede yarn feels sooo good!

Michele Hitch
in chilly Salinas, California
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