Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Both needlelaces, but the stitches are mixed. The tulle areas are tulle stitch from point de gaze. The picot bars are early venetian. The block filling stitches are halas and the diagonal diamond filling stitches and the solid areas are double brussels from venetian gros point. The simple cordonnet is point de gaze. Definately art nouveau style. I think we could all agree they are worked to a very high standard. Lovely pieces. --- Rochelle Sutherland & Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, 9 August, 2007 4:52:37 PM Subject: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace? Gentle Spiders, On my Campaign for Modern Lace Site at the Arachne Webshots, _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK_ (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK) there have been two new pictures posted. They are the second and third pictures on that album, the first still shows me. I am looking for more information about their origin, who might have designed them, etc. The second one, possibly a collar, looks like it might have been the work of Hrdlicka, although I can't find the specific pattern among the various ones I have seen published. The first, a fan, featuring a woman in medieval hat and peacocks, I haven't a clue about. Both appear to be needlelace. I would be interested in hearing any ideas. Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ___ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Well, with some trepidation, I will venture a guess. Definitely needlelace. Definitely Art Nouveau design. But not anything that might have come out of the Vienna School presided over by Hrdlicka or Verneuil who also taught there. Both of them had much more complicated designs. Nothing in this vein in the Hrdlicka book put out by the Lace Guild. >From a book by Verneuil in which he contemplates plant forms and art, which are much more complex, not his either. From the sort of simplified design and cloudy reseau, my guess is a stab at Art Nouveau by the lace school at Burano, which produced technically wonderful stuff, but somehow lost the riotous abundance of the works they copied. I have always felt that the later Burano efforts were carved in stone. Palpitating Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:53 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace? Gentle Spiders, On my Campaign for Modern Lace Site at the Arachne Webshots, _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK_ (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK) there have been two new pictures posted. They are the second and third pictures on that album, the first still shows me. I am looking for more information about their origin, who might have designed them, etc. The second one, possibly a collar, looks like it might have been the work of Hrdlicka, although I can't find the specific pattern among the various ones I have seen published. The first, a fan, featuring a woman in medieval hat and peacocks, I haven't a clue about. Both appear to be needlelace. I would be interested in hearing any ideas. Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
In a message dated 8/9/2007 1:24:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do they define "guipure" nowadays? As a kind of tape? Or what? Ah terminology again. Well, I don' t know how they define guipure, but I use it to mean decorative elements connected with bars, rather than mesh. I could be wrong. Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
The mesh with the medieval woman looks a bit irregular what means handmade. In the other piece the mesh is more regular. the bird in front of the woman is not a peacock in my opion. lso the flowers looks more than thistles than poppies. and the open one in middle could be a lot of others. In the corner are this flowers or insects. But both pieces seem to be needle lace. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Devon -- How do they define "guipure" nowadays? As a kind of tape? Or what? Aurelia I have checked my books about Aemilia Ars, and although there are many peacocks, the work seems mostly to be of a guipure type, and absent these large areas of painstaking needle made mesh. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
I feel that there is sufficient lack of uniformity in the mesh that tulle is not being used, but rather handmade needle mesh. This is particularly clear in the mesh which has double stitches and such in it. But the plain mesh is also does not appear to be machine made to me. I have the photocopies that are a little clearer than the scans made from them on the site. However, even on the site, you can see greater detail if you click on the item and then on a magnifying glass. The poppies, it is clear from my photocopy, at least, are made of needlelace and not a fabric as in carrickmacross. I have checked my books about Aemilia Ars, and although there are many peacocks, the work seems mostly to be of a guipure type, and absent these large areas of painstaking needle made mesh. Vis a vis the peacocks and medieval woman piece, I had been thinking that another potential source might be Minne-Dansaert, a Belgian woman who manufactured very fine needlelace and won many internatioanal prizes, but the work I see from her in Trois Siecles is of a higher quality with more three-dimensional details.. On the other hand, everyone produces a range of quality... Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Dear Devon, On my Campaign for Modern Lace Site at the Arachne Webshots, _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK_ (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK) Without a very close look it was hard to tell. My first thought was needle lace appliqued on to net. But then it occurred to me that it could even be a modernized form of the Irish Carrickmacross where organdie is appliqued onto tulle. Although these pieces don't have the characteristic edging or he embroidered poppets. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: wedding veil - silk v cotton net
--- Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The advantage of silk net over a cotton one (apart > from the fineness > and sheen) would, IMO, be that silk netting is, by > nature, a bit > stiffer than cotton netting. I will disagree. I have a piece of the 'good stuff' of cotton tule -- purchased from Brejaart's -- and a piece of old silk tulle. The silk is softer than the cotton, but this very fine cotton tule is very soft compared to netting. The thing to consider is whether the fabric is tule or net. Tule is soft but with a good 'hand' to drap. Net is stiffer. The good tule is expensive, and the net less so. I don't think there would be a big problem with cotton lace pieces on silk tule since Honiton pieces are usually quite small and a little ease in the applique threads would allow for the tiny shrinkage that might happen if it were washed. Someone with more experience may speak up about this aspect, though. Please post pictures afterwards. It all sounds lovely. Alice in Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Hello Devon, I saw a lot of Hrdlicka design but not all and in my opinion those two collars aren't from him. There excist also a lot of Jugendstil designs from the Compagnie Bruxelles and Ars Aemilia in Bologna as well as from Hungarian and other designers in Europe. in that time. In my shelves isn't a book with designs from that time but I know there is one with several such wonderful designs mostly collars or fans. perhaps Jeri has something. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
