Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Hi Clay et al, I managed to click on the picture of the young lady with the pendant, and this brouight up a much enlarged image - maybe that would work for you too? I thought it was lovely - made my efforts at Nanduti/Teneriffe lace look a bit (a lot?) paltry! Take care all - may your threads never break. Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arachne.com lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ribbons
Not lace I know, but I know that many of you like myself dabble in other crafts as well as lace so I wondered if anyone out there can tell me where I can puchase very narrow rayon silky ribbon, I bought a bracelet kit at the Knitting and Stitching show at Alexandra Palace last week and have made the bracelet but as I have 3 grandaughters there are going to be arguments if I cannot source the ribbon to make two more. I have tried all our craft shops and haberdashers to no avail. Happy lacing (and other crafts) Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Needle-lace blog
I have been following the lessons, and have some pictures on my blog. http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com I tried the Side Stitch this weekend, but took it out last night. I think I started my first row with the stitches too close together, and toward the end my stitches were crowded. I needed to leave out stitches at the edge to follow the curve of the leaf, and that gave me trouble for some reason. I'll sit down tonight and see if I can conquer the Side Stitch. Your second diagram is much clearer, and I think that will help a little. I like making needle lace, it's very different from tatting or bobbin lace. I've done a lot of sewing, and it's relaxing to settle down with only a needle and thread. Thanks for posting these lessons, I would never have tried needle lace on my own. Lenore in Michigan On 10/21/07, Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (http://aurelove.blogster.com). I love the Side Stitch. I know that some of you have been following these lessons -- I would love to hear what you think of the Side Stitch. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What's going on in Brazil?
I do agree with you, dear Clay. I could hardly see any details of the Nanduti lace pendant (though I am an enthusiastic maker of Nanduti and have been for at least 25 years). But the pretty little girl with her pants falling down couldn't have been clearer! I hope our Brazilian colleague will try again, and with main emphasis on the needlework! Two by-the-ways: 1) Although the geographic place is certainly spelled Tenerife (with one f), the needlework is properly spelled Teneriffe with two f's. Don't ask me why. And 2) My impression is that the shape of the bit of embroidery in Teneriffe is determined by the shape of the tool used. If your pins are driven into a wooden circle and the fundamental threads (analogous to the warp threads in a piece of standard weaving) are strung on to the pins in order, you are going to be making a round item. If you want a diamond-shaped item like our colleague's pendant, you use a correspondingly shaped tool. Nanduti is well worth a try. It is a real delight to make. Aurelia Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Hi Carol - When I clicked on the picture of the girl, I got a terrible close-up which was so pixillated that I couldn't see anything. But Elizabeth (the original writer) encouraged me to try some of the other links, and on the shop link I was able to see them clearly. They are very pretty... and a fair price as well. I hope they do well with these! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine
I am finding this conversation about this pillow fascinating. Since I am from the St. Louis area(50 miles east), and the Torchon Lace Company is from St. Louis and is the one that made the Princess Lace Machine(am I correct in my thinking?), this has me interested. And it is also interesting to note that the Princess Lace machine was made in 1904 which also happened to be the year of the World's Fair in St. Louis, Mo. Any correlation there and wonder if it was presented at the 1904 World's Fair? Any one have thoughts on the history of that? Trying to get my facts straight... Happy Lacemaking! Mark, aka Tatman In cool, soon to be rainy Greenville, IL USA Www.tat-man.net Www.tat-man.net/blog -- Original message -- From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't really matter whether they were good to use or not. The German Rassmussen pillow, of which this is almost a direct copy (along with most of the patterns), was just as hard to use. The point is that The Torchon Lace Company, product of Sylvester Lewis, was the first and only commercial attempt at marketing bobbinlace to American women through early 20th century advertising. And the enterprise lasted from 1904 to 1919 - one even finds examples sold in Australia. His 'paint by numbers' patterns was also not unique - I've seen this in earlier French works. Who knows if he ever came through on his promise to buy the lace that these machines would produce? All in all this was a totally impractical system. Typically American! Nothing like it before, although one might argue that his contemporary Cottrell in France came close. And so, many of these machines survive, and more and more are showing up on Ebay. 30 years ago, if we found one in an antique shop, it was a very lucky find. I predict the price will remain in this range for a long time to come. And even higher prices realized for the much rarer Australian version. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine
Hi Mark AND All. I was wondering also, this must have been a largest effort made to get lacemaking really going in the US? Was there a larger effort made? Susie - Original Message - From: Tatman To: Lace list Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine I am finding this conversation about this pillow fascinating. Since I am from the St. Louis area(50 miles east), and the Torchon Lace Company is from St. Louis and is the one that made the Princess Lace Machine(am I correct in my thinking?), this has me interested. And it is also interesting to note that the Princess Lace machine was made in 1904 which also happened to be the year of the World's Fair in St. Louis, Mo. Any correlation there and wonder if it was presented at the 1904 World's Fair? Any one have thoughts on the history of that? Trying to get my facts straight... Happy Lacemaking! Mark, aka Tatman In cool, soon to be rainy Greenville, IL USA Www.tat-man.net Www.tat-man.net/blog -- Original message -- From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't really matter whether they were good to use or not. The German Rassmussen pillow, of which this is almost a direct copy (along with most of the patterns), was just as hard to use. The point is that The Torchon Lace Company, product of Sylvester Lewis, was the first and only commercial attempt at marketing bobbinlace to American women through early 20th century advertising. And the enterprise lasted from 1904 to 1919 - one even finds examples sold in Australia. His 'paint by numbers' patterns was also not unique - I've seen this in earlier French works. Who knows if he ever came through on his promise to buy the lace that these machines would produce? All in all this was a totally impractical system. Typically American! Nothing like it before, although one might argue that his contemporary Cottrell in France came close. And so, many of these machines survive, and more and more are showing up on Ebay. 30 years ago, if we found one in an antique shop, it was a very lucky find. I predict the price will remain in this range for a long time to come. And even higher prices realized for the much rarer Australian version. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine/ US lacemaking Ipswich
Late 1700s, the little town of Ipswich Mass produced annually 79,000 yards of Handmade Bobbin lace. Documentation and actual samples are in the Library of Congress Washington DC. For demo at Rev War reenactments I make a black silk copy of #4. The distinctive laces mostly resemble a combination of Bucks and Torchon, with variations on the grounds. Some of the patterns have been published with new prickings so they can be made again. They are very pretty. :)) Check published prickings by Karen Thompson 2004. .Check The Laces of Ipswich Marta Cotterell Raffel ISBN 1-58465-163-6. My copy was $25 a while back. Excellent history included. Also check IOLI Bulletin Summer 1996-7 Vol 17, Number 4. ISSN 0740-6746.. Kate Henry Indiana USA - Original Message - From: C Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lace list lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine Hi Mark AND All. I was wondering also, this must have been a largest effort made to get lacemaking really going in the US? Was there a larger effort made? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Princess Lace Machine/American Lace
Hi Mark and everyone I went to the Digital Archives of Documents Pertaining to Lace and searched first for the 'Princess Lace Machine' (no joy) and then the 'Torchon Lace Company' - (joy) and found a 64-page pdf document, which I couldn't open because of my lowly dialup connection (which choked, and I had to restart a few things to get back 'here' etc. etc. - oh well...).. the search notes did tell me that the TLC operated as of 1901 through about a decade or so. Go here to read the document, it is a paper entitled American Lace and should be a useful read ;) http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/monographs/cmc_lace.pdf http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/monographs/cmc_lace.pdf I then looked at the section 'patents' and saw 'lace machines' - and found this one http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/patents/SAMPLES/00745206.gif Whether or not S. Lewis worked for the TLC bears further research. Your idea that the Princess Lace Machine was offered the year of the World's Fair makes sense to me, although I can't confirm. Maybe there is information in the paper above. HTH Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) On 10/22/07, Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am finding this conversation about this pillow fascinating. Since I am from the St. Louis area(50 miles east), and the Torchon Lace Company is from St. Louis and is the one that made the Princess Lace Machine(am I correct in my thinking?), this has me interested. And it is also interesting to note that the Princess Lace machine was made in 1904 which also happened to be the year of the World's Fair in St. Louis, Mo. Any correlation there and wonder if it was presented at the 1904 World's Fair? Any one have thoughts on the history of that? Trying to get my facts straight... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Hello spiders -- Nanduti necklace
Thanks a lot, Tamara and also other spiders. I think the really thing we have to do in this world is make the things better. And with a little help can be more ease. First, I will revise the blog and thanks for help me with the english. The glass tablets are littles squares made by fusion (in a high temperature electric oven) and have 1,5cm x 2cm. You think we can use flats instead tablets? I will revise the photos, too. I have photos of just the medallion in the link **ATELIER** and *TEIANHANDUTI**, but I can bring it to the main page and people will see another aspects. Tamara, you are sure about the lace. We manage to make a medallion when we use a big and starched thread and we take off the frame and maximize the central motif. We were looking for something like this, a modern interpretation of a traditional technique. We were looking also for something agile to the commerce. You know that our proposital is to collaborate in the self-sustainment of our associaton and in the rescue of self-esteem of the public of our projects. We recuperate and want to work also with the tradicional technique, but for this moment and for the project the necklace seeems strategical to us. Thanks again. Yours remarks are precious for us. But I have a question about your work, the pretties snowflakes. What you make to starched them? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uol.com.br Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Hello spiders -- Nanduti necklace Hi Elizabeth, I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks OK, first the text. I think the following would be better English: Beauty of Nanduti Lace presents a hand-crafted necklace with a medallion woven (not weaved; it's an irregular verb) in Nanduti or Tenerife lace -- a new interpretation of the traditional technique, decorated with recycled (not recycling) glass tablets (are they really tablets? That is, are they *flat*? If they're round, they would be beads). Second, the photos: I would suggest that the second photo -- the one with the girl in a white outfit -- be replaced with a *photo of just the medallion*, so that the *lace* can be clearly seen. Something like the photo just under your logo, but one which could be enlarged by clicking on it, same as the girl photos. The first photo -- the one of the girl in the black outfit -- shows the size/proportion of the whole necklace when worn, and shows how good it looks on a young (and very pretty g) person. That's good; we want young people to be interested in wearing lace. But, the second picture doesn't show any more than the first, as far as the lace is concerned. A lot of the beauty of lace -- Nanduti and others -- is in its intricate detail; you need to show that. Show the clever many stitches which went into the weaving of the whole. You asked us to comment on the lace part but it's difficult, without being able to see the lace in greater detail. I know very little about Nanduti/Tenerife/Sol lace, so would, probably, find it difficult to comment under any circumstances. The one thing which strikes me is that the design of the necklace is *clever*. I have always thought of Nanduti as being made either in a round or square (such as in your logo) frame. This piece however, manages to minimize the frame to the point where it's almost not noticeable at all, and to maximize the central motif. And *then*, it turns the whole idea 45º, into a diamond configuration. That *is*, to my un-tutored eye, a very modern interpretation of a traditional technique. Best [EMAIL PROTECTED], T (wondering how Friday's jump in oil prices and -- further -- drop in dollar's value vis euro, will affect her next year's plans for attending the OIDFA Congress in Holland) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Hello spiders -- Nanduti necklace
The word 'tablet' describes the glass perfectly. Don't change it :) On 10/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The glass tablets are littles squares made by fusion (in a high temperature electric oven) and have 1,5cm x 2cm. You think we can use flats instead tablets? -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Good, Clay Let's arachne.com know this good new? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders Hi Elizabeth - I finally found some good pictures of the necklace and other items for sale on the shop link. They are very pretty, very simple, and are a fair price. Thank you for helping me find better pictures. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clay In te page there are 4 links to another two pages with photos of the necklace alone. Try them, please. elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders I'm not sure how to respond. The pictures I was able to get of a closer look were so pixellated that I could not see the quality of the work. The scale seems large (but the model may be small...), and the design seems over-simplified. But that does not mean that the effect is not lovely - it's just that I can't SEE it!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, Clay. And about the lace? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Hello spiders -- Nanduti necklace
On Oct 22, 2007, at 13:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elizabeth) wrote: First, I will revise the blog and thanks for help me with the english. The glass tablets are littles squares made by fusion (in a high temperature electric oven) and have 1,5cm x 2cm. You think we can use flats instead tablets? Since they're flat, then tablets are fine, as Bev has said. But I have a question about your work, the pretties snowflakes. What you make to starched them? Most aren't starched at all -- I am too lazy. I wash them and, while they are still very wet, I finger-stretch them on the glass slab on my coffee table. The linen thread does the rest. But one is starched -- with potato starch, as is done in Poland. And, two of them, I painted with fingernail polish. The clear kind with sparkly bits in it :) I know one's not supposed to do that to lace, but... it's not valuable lace and they look nice on the Christmas tree, so, why not? -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
