Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Martina, there aren't pins except at the edges. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] More on copyright
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? I have a little book of knitted lace collars, published in 1841, which raised the same query for me when I first had it, as I wanted to have a couple of colour photocopies done (some of the printing is in colour) mainly for my own use, but without breaking copyright. This was so that I could take the reproduction with me when demonstrating and teaching, without risking adding to the fragility of the original book - it also enabled me to make an enlarged copy - easier to read! I can't remember now exactly how I found it, but I think I probably googled the name and address of the publisher as quoted (the husband of the author in this case, they had a business selling her pattern books, people would make the collars and they had the option then of selling the collars back to the company so that the company could sell both collars and instructions for DIY.) and came up with the email address of the person doing research into the family history (not a direct descendant, but close enough) who was able to give me information regarding when both of the couple died, and that the company (a further consideration) died with the husband, thus confirming that this book was out of copyright. Some books have a number code on the flyleaf - I think there was some discussion as to the early DMC Encyclopaedias being dated in this way, and once you know the key to that system you can date the book, if not the author. Remember that if someone writes a book when he/she is 20, and lives until he/she is 90, then the copyright period will be 140 years from the time the book is published! This could mean that a book written in 1870 may actually still be in copyright. Hence the reason for researching the author, and his/her date of death through the genealogy sites. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: More on copyright
Thank you, Jane. Your experience is precious and your information very valuable. Sr. Claire On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jane Partridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? I have a little book of knitted lace collars, published in 1841, which raised the same query for me when I first had it, as I wanted to have a couple of colour photocopies done (some of the printing is in colour) mainly for my own use, but without breaking copyright. This was so that I could take the reproduction with me when demonstrating and teaching, without risking adding to the fragility of the original book - it also enabled me to make an enlarged copy - easier to read! I can't remember now exactly how I found it, but I think I probably googled the name and address of the publisher as quoted (the husband of the author in this case, they had a business selling her pattern books, people would make the collars and they had the option then of selling the collars back to the company so that the company could sell both collars and instructions for DIY.) and came up with the email address of the person doing research into the family history (not a direct descendant, but close enough) who was able to give me information regarding when both of the couple died, and that the company (a further consideration) died with the husband, thus confirming that this book was out of copyright. Some books have a number code on the flyleaf - I think there was some discussion as to the early DMC Encyclopaedias being dated in this way, and once you know the key to that system you can date the book, if not the author. Remember that if someone writes a book when he/she is 20, and lives until he/she is 90, then the copyright period will be 140 years from the time the book is published! This could mean that a book written in 1870 may actually still be in copyright. Hence the reason for researching the author, and his/her date of death through the genealogy sites. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Threads query
Dear All After a couple of false starts (don't ask) I intend to restart my project of working through Barbara Underwood's Bedfordshire book. However, I have discovered that the thread she recommends for the pattern I want to do (Madeira Tanne 50) has been discontinued and the other threads (DMC Fil a Broder machine 50 or DMC? Retors d'Alsace) don't appear in the stock lists of the UK suppliers' web sites I've looked at (Jo Firth, SMP, Biggins). What else can I use? I've got a copy of Brenda's book but it's marooned in my 'lace room' which has now been taken over by our new lodger (and that's another story!) and I'm getting a bit desperate in case my enthusiasm for the project wanes again before I can get some thread of the right size. Alison in Essex UK where it's a beautiful spring day, but my son tells me it's going to rain at lunchtime! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Threads query
Alison, what about Brok 80/2, Presencia Fina Bolillos 80, Egyptian 60 Any of those around? Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gray, Alison J Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 7:21 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Threads query Dear All After a couple of false starts (don't ask) I intend to restart my project of working through Barbara Underwood's Bedfordshire book. However, I have discovered that the thread she recommends for the pattern I want to do (Madeira Tanne 50) has been discontinued and the other threads (DMC Fil a Broder machine 50 or DMC? Retors d'Alsace) don't appear in the stock lists of the UK suppliers' web sites I've looked at (Jo Firth, SMP, Biggins). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI Library Contact
I tried contacting Cathy with the email printed in the IOLI Members Handbook but it came back as undeliverable. Has she gotten a new email address? If so, would someone please email it to me? Thanks! Blessings, Shirlee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: machine made lace
Hello Carolyn, there is another aspect. The men inventing these machines with wich it was possible to make first only the net and later laces of different types, were proud about their intlectual work. And those group of people no able to buy more laces than before admired it. By the way first those machine made laces weren't socheap. Also the falling down of those cloths regulations the becoming more self-assurance/ confidence of the bourgeoisie all those things together changed the things. It was ctastrofical for the lacemakers but it help the mankind to become free. There are always two sides ot a medallion. Lacemaking is social history. And if you ever see the machine made laces in the museum in Le Puy and don't could believe that machines (the inventing brain of men) were able to do so. Than you can't help you find it fascinating. Ilske Am 22. Mai 2008 um 18:58 schrieb Carolyn Hastings: Her sentiments do her credit, but the irony is that the machine lace (and fabrics) that replaced the hand industries didn't improve the lot of the workers. If anything, it made it worse. The factories were dangerous in many ways, and the labor was brutal and constant. And I'm reminded of William Cobbett's description of the decimation of the lacemaking villages of England, after the introduction of the machines. The livelihood of many was ruined by the machines. Not sure in the end that machinery was any improvement in any way -- except perhaps that a wider range of socio-economic classes could have access to lace after the machines became the norm. Just my 2 cents worth, thank you for the interesting quote, Su. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Su Carter Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:53 PM To: Lace Arachne Subject: Hi all, I chanced upon a lovely comment about lace by Fanny Kemble that I thought you'd enjoy. I was much interested by the lace-works at Brussels and Mechlin, and very painfully so. It is beginning to be time, I think, in Christian countries, for manufactures of mere luxury to be done away with, when proficiency in the merest mechanical drudgery involved in them demands a lifetime, and the sight and health of women, who begin this twilight work at five and six years old, are often sacrificed long before their natural term to this costly and unhealthy industry. I hope to see all such manufactures done away with, for they are bad things, and a whole moral and intelligent being, turned into ten fingers' ends for such purposes, is a sad spectacle. I (a lace-worshipper, if ever woman was) say this advisedly; I am sorry there is still Mechlin and Brussels lace made, and glad there is no more India muslin, and rejoice in the disuse of every minute manual labor which tends to make a mere machine of God's likeness. But oh, for all that, how incomparably inferior is the finest, faultless, machine-made lace and muslin to the exquisite irregularity of the human fabric!... Frances Ann Kemble, 1841 Su Carter, enjoying a lovely day in Williamsburg, VA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
I find these grounds take an awful lot of concentration to make - how true Sue. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: [lace) OIDFA trip (was VA)
This There is a book by Mick Fouriscot called La Route des Dentelles Normandes is a lovely book but no longer actuell. Lots have changed. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Martina, we would I will show a photo eventually when it is finished. like that you do so. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Silver Wire Lace/clay cord
Hello Cherry and everyone I have done a bit of work with 'silver clay' - you can buy prepared cord, too, (or is that what you already have?). I think it must be made by extrusion. When I had the small packet to play with, I made some tiny rolls to make a short BL plait. The trick is to keep it moist without it melting; management technique is important if doing an ambitious woven piece using the cord. My clay management doesn't extend to bobbin lace though - I ended up making a broad silver-clay fitting to which a textile lace could be attached. Yes silver clay requires specific tools, especially the kiln. A blow-torch can be used on small projects (with a fireproof surface). On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Cherry Knobloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know more about how precious metal clay is turned into a cord. I know that the 'clay' itself is actually an organic binder. It's been around for about 15 years and was developed in Japan. It's come a long way since then. A few ceramic artists have tried incorporating it into pottery but the firing temperatures are too different and the silver often ends up burning away. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads query
The nearest would be Egyptian gassed 60, or Steff Francis Extra fine mercerised cotton. http://www.stef-francis.co.uk/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=1 Brok 80/2 is a tiny bit finer, 60/2 a bit thicker. Presencis Finca 80 is a 3ply thread which will produce a firmer feel to the lace. Brenda On 23 May 2008, at 10:40, Ruth Budge wrote: Alison, what about Brok 80/2, Presencia Fina Bolillos 80, Egyptian 60 Any of those around? Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gray, Alison J Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 7:21 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Threads query Dear All After a couple of false starts (don't ask) I intend to restart my project of working through Barbara Underwood's Bedfordshire book. However, I have discovered that the thread she recommends for the pattern I want to do (Madeira Tanne 50) has been discontinued and the other threads (DMC Fil a Broder machine 50 or DMC? Retors d'Alsace) don't appear in the stock lists of the UK suppliers' web sites I've looked at (Jo Firth, SMP, Biggins). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads query
On May 23, 2008, at 5:20, Gray, Alison J wrote: I have discovered that the thread she recommends for the pattern I want to do (Madeira Tanne 50) has been discontinued It is now called Madeira Cotona and is sold on smaller (200m) spools. You can still get those; many vendors carry it. Others answered regarding replacements. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton Thread label
Patsy asked about the writing on the label of a skein of old lace thread she bought in the Honiton Lace Shop some years ago. A scan of the label is at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/honiton_label.jpg I know what I think it reads, but Patsy's not sure. Would anyone else care to offer their opinion. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads query
According to Madeira's website Cotona is only available in sizes 30 and 80 Brenda On 23 May 2008, at 18:06, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On May 23, 2008, at 5:20, Gray, Alison J wrote: I have discovered that the thread she recommends for the pattern I want to do (Madeira Tanne 50) has been discontinued It is now called Madeira Cotona and is sold on smaller (200m) spools. You can still get those; many vendors carry it. Others answered regarding replacements. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton Thread label
Patsy and Brenda Looks like 'Antique Thread 230' but then I may be wrong! Ruth in West London On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 18:15 +0100, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Patsy asked about the writing on the label of a skein of old lace thread she bought in the Honiton Lace Shop some years ago. A scan of the label is at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/honiton_label.jpg I know what I think it reads, but Patsy's not sure. Would anyone else care to offer their opinion. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton Thread label
At 03:15 AM 24/05/2008, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Patsy asked about the writing on the label of a skein of old lace thread she bought in the Honiton Lace Shop some years ago. A scan of the label is at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/honiton_label.jpg Hm - I copied it into PaintshopPro - made it black and white and increased the shadows markedly. Now it certainly looks like the first bit says An - which would mean that the next word should start with a vowel. However, the only possibility with which I can come up would be ogre, and I'm sure that's not it. Now IF the first word is NOT An, it's final letter would seem to be the same as the initial letter in the 2nd word, viz. n. This 2nd word certainly does seem to end with re, but it' s the 2nd letter which has got me stumped. Can't think of any appropriate letter which descends below the line - g, y, j, p, q, I give up and am going to bed as I turned into a pumpkin hours ago David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton Thread label
At 03:28 AM 24/05/2008, Ruth Hollands wrote: Patsy and Brenda Looks like 'Antique Thread 230' but then I may be wrong! Of course it is - now I'll slepp soundly thanks David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Tamara, a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould and what Jo mentioned for mushroom reminds me also on something like this. Bevv found perhaps the nearest explanation: sham imitatio, conterfeit, pretence But than I am wondering why U. V. used an English expression. I don't know but it si interesting to look at words from every side Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Hello Ilske and everyone On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know but it si interesting to look at words from every side Yes! a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould if 'sponge' -like in appearance, perhaps an English equivalent is 'mottled' (spotty, streaked - like on some animal's skins) or 'crazed' - the mesh of uneven cracks in pottery, and from 'crazed' to 'crazy' to... wild?... and what Jo mentioned for mushroom reminds me also on something like this. Bevv found perhaps the nearest explanation: sham imitatio, conterfeit, pretence But than I am wondering why U. V. used an English expression. Words are fun :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Schamm-schwamm (was: Wilder ground)
Sorry spiders, I made a typo: the book reads Schwamm. And Tamara's dictionary proved my German is a bit rusty. Jo a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Unless a lace takes concentration, I get quickly bored with it!! I really appreciate the laces which make me completely focus... I get involved and after an hour or two (which pass VERY quickly), I feel like I've been in a trance and have been physically rejuvenated!! (well... except for maybe the back!) And there are studies which show that using our brains like this on a regular basis is a good way to forestall the onset of Alzheimer's... I have no idea whether this is true or not, but I certainly like to hear that at least ONE of my favorite pasttimes might be good for me!! ; ) Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find these grounds take an awful lot of concentration to make - how true Sue. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton Thread label
Patsy and Brenda Yes, I agree definately Antique thread 230 Annette in very frosty Trentham, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RXP
I'm sorry to post this to the list, but Clay, I've tried to reply to your query privately, and twice it's bounced back. This is what I tried to say to you: Clay, it didn't occur to me to put a sample pattern in, I must admitalthough there are sample fillings in the Fillings LibraryI'm so glad you have a full screen of dotsmay I ask what model number your Toshiba is please? The layers are now set to open by default at Layer 1 and they *are* labelled 1 - 20 instead of 0 - 19a bit more logical for us, although apparently it is a programmers thingfor reasons of their own, they always count numbers from 0. You can now name a layer too and the old problem with unlocking has gone! Enjoy your play - and do feel free to email me if you have questions. Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RXP
I've just answered a query privately, and thought this might be a good warning for those of you trying the Lace RXP programme...if you've been used to using the Smooth Gimp button in Lace 2000, the new Smooth Curve button works differently. To draw freehand shapes, click on the Smooth Curve button.Put the cursor on the page, and left-click and hold down the mouse buttonmove your cursor to draw, just as if you were using a pencil.Release the mouse button when finished.If you turn the Zoom In up really high, you'll be able to avoid pinholes etc., more easily, I find. I also suggest that, rather than drawing one shape in a continuous line, you draw a section, then start a new onethis makes it easier if you do need to delete a section - you only delete a section rather than the whole freehand shape. You can edit a smooth curve by selecting it and nudging it into shape, but it's much easier to draw it where you want it at first. Ruth - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RXP user group?
Hello Ruth and everyone There are various ways to set up an e-mail group or online forum for special interests, it sounds like the Lace R-XP users would benefit! This is not to say I mind the topic on arachne, rather a suggestion for an efficient way to discuss and archive useful topics, could be linked from the software seller's website. Might be worth looking into. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just answered a query privately, and thought this might be a good warning for those of you trying the Lace RXP programme...if you've been used -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RXP user group?
Yes, ILSoft has set up such a group - I'm not sure whether anyone has subscribed to it yet. Ruth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: bevw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 9:06 AM To: Ruth Budge Cc: Lace Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] RXP user group? Hello Ruth and everyone There are various ways to set up an e-mail group or online forum for special interests, it sounds like the Lace R-XP users would benefit! This is not to say I mind the topic on arachne, rather a suggestion for an efficient way to discuss and archive useful topics, could be linked from the software seller's website. Might be worth looking into. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just answered a query privately, and thought this might be a good warning for those of you trying the Lace RXP programme...if you've been used -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Arachne meeting at OIDFA - Friday
OK -- I'll speak up on this. We discussed it in February. The last message I could find was this one: We found out that only friday at lunch-time would be best for all. So I proposed to meet at 11.30 or 12.00, so early because some go for the city trip at 14.00, having lunch and chat together. Where we will meet I'll tell you later because I don't know at this time of planing. Hope this is ok for you too. we also could try to sit together at OIDFA-dinner. We are still 4 or 5 persons. So long Ilske SoWe meet at 11:30 on Friday. I propose we meet at the entrance to the Oosterpoort, then walk together across the canal and find a restaurant. Possible ones can be checked out on Thursday by the people who are early. I know there's a restaurant in my hotel -- Hampshire House (I hope I remember the name correctly) -- which is not far from the Congress -- if there are none closer. If someone is on the OIDFA board and has to attend their meeting...I'm sorry. There's no time that everyone is available. It's a very busy schedule. Anything else, Ilske? If people are there early, on Thursday, and want to meet with me on Thursday evening, please contact me. We can have an impromptu meeting in my room or in the lobby if there's too many people for one room. Or something. I will arrive on Wednesday so I can help set up the USA Stand on Thursday afternoon. And I have no other plans for Thursday evening, so far. Alice in Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Alencon lace on eBay...
There is an impressive and large piece of lace on eBay currently, and it is described as Alencon. It is item number 360052393378. I know next-to-nothing about Alencon. But these pictures are extremely detailed and the overall design is lovely. Could someone who knows this lace kindly comment on this for us? Thank you very much!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Alencon lace on eBay...
I have looked again, and I believe that the next-to-last picture in the group is definitive. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is an impressive and large piece of lace on eBay currently, and it is described as Alencon. It is item number 360052393378. I know next-to-nothing about Alencon. But these pictures are extremely detailed and the overall design is lovely. Could someone who knows this lace kindly comment on this for us? Thank you very much!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads query
On May 23, 2008, at 13:23, Brenda Paternoster wrote: According to Madeira's website Cotona is only available in sizes 30 and 80 Oops. Apologies, then. I've had to replace their Tanne 80 with Cotona 80 and assumed that *all* their Tanne threads had been re-named. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Crocheted Wire Jewelry by Arline M. Fisch
Dear Arachnes, Funny, but I don't remember seeing this book featured in any lace bulletins. Crocheted Wire Jewelry By Arline M. Fisch Lark Books Distrib. in Canada by Sterling Distrib. in UK by GMC Distrib. Svcs. Distrib. in Australia by Capricorn Link ISBN 13: 978-1-57990-660-3 Cover price $25 US, 2005, hard cover If you go to any major book store in the US today, you will find much shelf space devoted to beads and other glittery techniques. In fact, I found additional books that were much too crafty for my taste. Everything presented in this book is sophisticated. The cover photo is of a very striking hairpin-crochet neckpiece, by the author. You may crochet with wires of brass, silver, gold, stainless steel, soft iron (stove wire) and nioblum. The crochet designs are illustrated in full color and the step-by-step instructions for making are very detailed, with all projects by leading artists (presumably, Fisch's students). If you enjoy working with wire, you may enjoy and learn from this book and perhaps find ways to use a crochet hook to enhance your other metal laces. The author's previous book Textile Techniques in Metal (1996) was very favorably reviewed on Arachne. She is a jeweler and professor of art whose work is in collections in the USA (Smithsonian), England (VA), Japan, Australia. Would be interested to know if anyone has crocheted lace from this book. Reviewer: Jeri Ames in Maine, USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [lace] Re: unpleasantly innacurate seller on eBay
Talk about a pot, callling a kettle black... :) I have no idea why the enclosed message should have come to me, personally (in duplicate, yet!)... I don't shop at E-bay, so I have no opinion -- positive or otherwise -- about sellers there; my only contact wih E-bay is limited to checking out a specific item someone here says we ought to see, either because it's especially pretty or because there's a question about identification. I doubt I'd have contributed to the thread as per the subject line, since I don't even remember the thread itself or when it ran (and refuse to waste time combing through the archives). But, since Theresa Doidge speaks of women, rather than woman, I suppose she meant all of us on Arachne. So, I'm forwarding her extremely classy and refined attack. Begin forwarded message: From: Theresa Doidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 23, 2008 17:06:09 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Re: unpleasantly innacurate seller on eBay You are lacking class. I came across this thread while looking for lace. I can't believe a supposedly intelligent group of women could be so catty as to write emails about another person who hasn't the chance to defend herself. You sound like a bunch of bitter women who have nothing to do but talk behind someones back. At least the seller you think has no class didn't take this any further than an email. You women are trash. And trash has no class. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Alencon lace on eBay...
It's machine lace. There's a statement in Elizabeth Kurella's book that says that Alencon is a name greatly used by the machine lace companies even though the lace is not like real Alencon. This is large and lovely, but not handmade. The seller is very careful to not specify. She only says it is antique and French. And it's the third time she's tried to sell it. Alice in Oregon - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:59:30 PM Subject: [lace] Alencon lace on eBay... There is an impressive and large piece of lace on eBay currently, and it is described as Alencon. It is item number 360052393378. I know next-to-nothing about Alencon. But these pictures are extremely detailed and the overall design is lovely. Could someone who knows this lace kindly comment on this for us? Thank you very much!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: machine made lace
I have always been in awe of the inventors of these fantastic machines, (and the machines and robots of our present industries). I often wonder what the thought processes were that led them to the final result. We must also remember that it wasn't just men who invented these machines. It was a woman that invented the circular saw used in saw mills on logs, and I have heard it was really a woman that thought up/invented the cotton gin (but Eli Whitney got the patent, women couldn't). Lorri who always wants to see how it works! there is another aspect. The men inventing these machines with wich it was possible to make first only the net and later laces of different types, were proud about their intlectual work. And those group of people no able to buy more laces than before admired it. By the way first those machine made laces weren't socheap. Also the falling down of those cloths regulations the becoming more self-assurance/ confidence of the bourgeoisie all those things together changed the things. It was ctastrofical for the lacemakers but it help the mankind to become free. There are always two sides ot a medallion. Lacemaking is social history. And if you ever see the machine made laces in the museum in Le Puy and don't could believe that machines (the inventing brain of men) were able to do so. Than you can't help you find it fascinating. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
