[lace] New website
Dear Arachnids My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield Lacemakers and Designers and a free pattern that will be changed periodically. Jean has only had her computer, her first, for 2 months and I think she has done well. Can you open it? What do you think? Any suggestions? and can you download the pattern? Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Alex's web page
I should have copied this to 'lace' but forgot - I sent it direct to Adele.. Adele Shaak wrote: One thing that might stump some people, is that in your Arachne posting you ended the website address with a period. So, when I clicked on the URL in the posting, the computer thought the period was part of the address and I got an error message. Once I took out the period everything was fine. I didn't have any trouble getting through to the page and have easily downloaded the pricking. Just put your cursor over the pricking, right click and choose 'copy'. Then open a new file in Microsoft Word and 'paste' Voila, there it is. Thanks Alex for a wonderful page and your friend Jean did a fantastic job getting it set up, especially with only 2 months experience on a computer Shirley T. - Adelaide, South Australia where we need more rain not sunshine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] scarf pattern
Hi Brenda, Thanks for the information and the link to your piece. When I go through your site I feel inadequate when I see the amount of lace you have made, and so beautifully! Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.com --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] scarf pattern To: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace lace@arachne.com Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:51 PM Yaspe (Jaspe) silk from Bart Francis is in Addendum3 and Edition 4, page 45. I measured it as 20 w/cm, but it's a slub thread so difficult to get an accurate measurement. I have just finished (bank holiday weekend) a torchon edging made with Filato per Tombolo di Cantu 30 with Yaspe 30/2 for the workers. Not conventional to mix cotton and silk but I wanted to see how the Yaspe worked up. The mat's to big to get it all onto the scanner so I'll need to mess about with the camera to get a proper pic for the website gallery, but I've added a scan of 1/4 of it to: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/lacepics/lacepics.html Brenda Also the thread calls for Yaspe shantung 100% siede, silk, soie Nm 30/2 Nel 50/2 I don't see it in Brenda's book but I think it could be 18 wraps. Am I correct? Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Braids
Hi De Hi Can you please tell me if it is possible to use a 14 braid pattern and change it to a 16 by adding the extra bobbins. I was thinking of bringing them in at the sides so instead of following the pattern by taking the worker through say the first 4 pairs I would then take it through the first 6 pairs. I hope I have explained it how I am thinking it. Thanks Wendy St Dogmaels _ Win New York holidays with Kelloggs Live Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Braids
Easy to do if there are passive pairs at the edges, as you can just add an extra passive pair on each side. With 16 pairs instead of 14 total:- if there are 4 passive pairs on either side of a central pattern braid, you will now have 5 passive pairs on each side, not 6. You'll need to remember when reading any instructions how many extra pairs you have added and where. perhaps an annotated photocopy will help you get it right easily. If the pattern continues across the whole row, you will need to consider how many pairs there are in a repeat across the row, before deciding if you can add 2 pairs without causing confusion Which braid is it you are thinking of widening? Sue - Original Message - From: Wendy Davies To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [lace] Milanese Braids Hi De Hi Can you please tell me if it is possible to use a 14 braid pattern and change it to a 16 by adding the extra bobbins. I was thinking of bringing them in at the sides so instead of following the pattern by taking the worker through say the first 4 pairs I would then take it through the first 6 pairs. I hope I have explained it how I am thinking it. Thanks Wendy St Dogmaels _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's Live Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New web site
There's no change from the arrow to indicate that the pattern can be downloaded, but, as Shirley said, you can right click and copy and paste into Word or some of other suitable program. Alternatively you can right click and save the pricking and picture each as a .jpg file which can be opened in any graphics program. I like the site - it's nice and clear. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New website
Hello Alex! Yes!! I was able to open the website, and to navigate around in it! I was so impressed with the lace that you and Jean have designed! I'm happy to say that I have several of your books, and find the Cassell Dictionary to be one of my favorites! Thank you for sharing this website, and for all that you have done to make Lacemaking more accessible to all of us! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA Alex Stillwell wrote: Dear Arachnids My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield Lacemakers and Designers and a free pattern that will be changed periodically. Jean has only had her computer, her first, for 2 months and I think she has done well. Can you open it? What do you think? Any suggestions? and can you download the pattern? Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New website
Dear Alex Jean, your website is simply splendid. Thanks so much for sharing David in Ballarat My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield Lacemakers and Designers and a free pattern that will be changed periodically. Jean has only had her computer, her first, for 2 months and I think she has done well. Can you open it? What do you think? Any suggestions? and can you download the pattern? Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honeycomb delight
Dear Friends, Don't you just love doing Honeycomb stitch??? I do. I did a big mob of it today. I just find it so gorgeous with it's tessellating hexagons - not to mention the way it fills whole areas so quickly. Perhaps you have a favourite stitch you'd like to tell us about David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Chris Berry is the Tudor Embroidery Teacher
An interesting side story: Susan's teacher at Embroiderers' Guild USA will be Chris Berry of Glasgow. She teaches a City and Guilds embroidery course in UK, teaches internationally, is an international exhibitor, and author. She is currently Chairman of the Embroiderers' Guild of England. But, what is especially of note to me is that on my last trip to Scotland I learned she and our Jean Leader (former Chairman of The Lace Guild in UK) live in the same Glasgow neighborhood! Such concentrated talent, all in one small area! 2008 is EGA's 50th birthday; cause for celebration to all in the needlearts world. Remember, it is often to EGA that Americans go for needle lace courses. In fact, this was how I became interested in lace nearly 40 years ago - a needle lace course. Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:58:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it's off to Louisville, KY for classes in Tudor embroidery rozashi at EGA seminar. I hope to make some silver gold lace to finish the sweet bag as I believe it will bring out the spangles purl. The teacher is from Glasgow thanks to her nice bibliography, I've already steeped myself in all things Elizabethan. Have a fun week! Sincerely, Susan - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
Hello David, how amusing after giving a class in design I was so full of energy that I, at least, looked how to work my Czech castle. And what do you think the murals on which the castle still stands but today are deeply in water but I will show the origin, I decided to work in . honeycomb. So we were sister and brother in thoughts today. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
My very favourite stitch is half-stitch. I like it that a few pairs can expand to fill a void, and condense at a narrow bit. I like to work it CT, or TC, of a piece and know that the appearance will be the same. I have other favourites, depending on what I'm working on. The star ground is lovely. I could share how to do star ground, if I would find the pattern I was using. When I look up close at honeycomb I always think of tapioca pudding in a nice way...(perhaps it is the frothy appearance) On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:00 AM, David in Ballarat [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Friends, Don't you just love doing Honeycomb stitch??? I do. I did a big mob of it today. I just find it so gorgeous with it's tessellating hexagons - not to mention the way it fills whole areas so quickly. Perhaps you have a favourite stitch you'd like to tell us about David in Ballarat -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
Bev, pleas, what's tapioca pudding Speaking about favourite stitches - I don't think I have one. I like them all. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
At 01:59 AM 29/08/2008, Ilske Thomsen wrote: Bev, pleas, what's tapioca pudding Better move that to chat Bev and give us all your recipe. I wonder how it differs from my Mum's David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
Good topic David!! I enjoy working honeycomb too! When I thought about the question, I immediately thought of two others; Cucumber Footsides; they dress up the edge of a piece of lace so nicely, and it is the easiest tally to make by far, and Apple Blossom fillings...delightful! Picking these two started me thinking about so many others I also enjoy... Thanks for the topic! Debbie in Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
Hello Ilske and everyone For a picture, the white one top of the page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca_pudding And the connection with honeycomb stitches in lace - that is, with white thread! The spatial effect is large and small holes in a pleasing array. Yes I will post to chat further about the tapioca itself. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bev, pleas, what's tapioca pudding Speaking about favourite stitches - I don't think I have one. I like them all. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honeycomb delight (or favourite stitches)
Debbie wrote: Cucumber Footsides; they dress up the edge of a piece of lace so nicely, and it is the easiest tally to make by far So that's why I've been putting off working the practice piece currently on my pillow. I've made 5 square tallies so far, and have had to remake four of them 5 or 6 times before they stayed square(ish). I find all tallies extremely difficult to make because of arthritis. But I'm determined to finish the sample - however long it takes. :-D Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
Apple Blossom fillings? They sound beautiful - but I've never run across those before. More info? Clay M. L. Mouzon wrote: Good topic David!! I enjoy working honeycomb too! When I thought about the question, I immediately thought of two others; Cucumber Footsides; they dress up the edge of a piece of lace so nicely, and it is the easiest tally to make by far, and Apple Blossom fillings...delightful! Picking these two started me thinking about so many others I also enjoy... Thanks for the topic! Debbie in Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re:honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
On Aug 28, 2008, at 13:48, Clay Blackwell wrote: Apple Blossom fillings? They sound beautiful - but I've never run across those before. More info? Like almost everything else worth knowing about lacemaking, the Apple Blossom can be found in Bridget Cook's Bible (aka Practical Skills in BL) == Section V, #5 It's a crossing of two 2-pair plaits, with (2-thread) picots tucked into the angles, close to the crossings. She also shows (#6) a double Apple Blossom (2 picots in the angles between plaits) with a larg-ish hole in the middle. I've never tried tat one, but it looks tempting. My copy of Practical Skills is full of notes stuck in. Next to the Apple Blossom, I have a note, which says: The Dutch calll it Margrietengrond -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
Ok, but I am not on chat Ilske Am 28.08.2008 um 18:12 schrieb David in Ballarat: At 01:59 AM 29/08/2008, Ilske Thomsen wrote: Bev, pleas, what's tapioca pudding Better move that to chat Bev and give us all your recipe. I wonder how it differs from my Mum's David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
Hi Clay! I believe you come across them most often in Honiton lace; the more common name for them being Blossom fillings. At the point where 2 braids cross, you work 4 picots before continuing with the braids. It makes a frilly little crossing, and when an area is full of them, it is so sweet! In the Book of Bobbin Lace Stitches by Bridget Cook and Geraldine Stott, there is an adorable variation called the Torchon Apple Blossom stitch, so I imagine that's why I always call the blossom filling an Apple blossom filling :) Hope all is going well with your visit to your DD! Take care, Debbie Clay Blackwell wrote: Apple Blossom fillings? They sound beautiful - but I've never run across those before. More info? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New website
Hello Alex If Jean has really only been using a computer for a couple of months she's done fantastically well. There's substance to the site, not just a blog, the layout is clean and the hyperlinks all work. Well done. Re the pattern; as I could see no 'download' button and no hand appeared over the image my (mac) instinct was to click and drag it off to the desktop, which worked. Then I read the instuctions - so right clicked - save image as ad that works too. It printed out at the correct size. However, most people would expect to find some sort of download 'button'. Doesn't have to be a button as such just the word will do so long as it's hyperlinked directly to the image file - and include target=_blank in the html so that it doesn't close the main window. Brenda My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield Lacemakers and Designers and a free pattern that will be changed periodically. Jean has only had her computer, her first, for 2 months and I think she has done well. Can you open it? What do you think? Any suggestions? and can you download the pattern? Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Alex Website
HI Alex, I found your website to be easy to navigate, all the pages opened. I was able to download the pattern by right clicking on the pattern and selecting Save Image As, and saved to my desktop. Worked great. I have not printed it out but it looks like it will be fine. Jean did a fine job of putting together a basic website. I am sure it will grow as you two decide what else you want to put on the web. Best Regards, Carol Melton Valley of the Sun, Phoenix, AZ, USA www.azsnaps.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New website
This is a very nice website. I went to the link below directly, my browser edited the dot at the end ;) I printed out the pattern from my jpg viewer and the printout was spot-on 4 inches, on the indicator line. You probably know there is a typo for the Lindfield link on your welcome page (but the link works just fine). On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Alex Stillwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Arachnids My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re:honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
Hmmm that would explain it! I love Bridget Cook's book, and use it often... but only when I'm into a new pattern and encounter something I don't recognize... And since I'm currently not at home, I didn't have it to refer to. I'm looking forward to being home again tomorrow... five days with no lacemaking is no fun at all!! Clay Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Aug 28, 2008, at 13:48, Clay Blackwell wrote: Apple Blossom fillings? They sound beautiful - but I've never run across those before. More info? Like almost everything else worth knowing about lacemaking, the Apple Blossom can be found in Bridget Cook's Bible (aka Practical Skills in BL) == Section V, #5 It's a crossing of two 2-pair plaits, with (2-thread) picots tucked into the angles, close to the crossings. She also shows (#6) a double Apple Blossom (2 picots in the angles between plaits) with a larg-ish hole in the middle. I've never tried tat one, but it looks tempting. My copy of Practical Skills is full of notes stuck in. Next to the Apple Blossom, I have a note, which says: The Dutch calll it Margrietengrond - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Honeycomb delight (or favourite stitches)
Jean In one of my web walks I saw a photo of a tally aid - it was a elongated triangular piece of plastic with 4 slots in it, one at the rounded off pointed end and the other three evenly spaced over the opposite flat end. I am guessing the idea was to bring your 4 threads through the first slit, separate the threads so that one goes into each of the 3 slots held closest to you with the forth thread doing the weaving between. I have never got around to making one but it has stuck in my mind that it would be doable. What do you think? Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan Debbie wrote: Cucumber Footsides; they dress up the edge of a piece of lace so nicely, and it is the easiest tally to make by far So that's why I've been putting off working the practice piece currently on my pillow. I've made 5 square tallies so far, and have had to remake four of them 5 or 6 times before they stayed square(ish). I find all tallies extremely difficult to make because of arthritis. But I'm determined to finish the sample - however long it takes. :-D Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re:honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
Can I get a look at your notes :-) Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au My copy of Practical Skills is full of notes stuck in. Next to the Apple Blossom, I have a note, which says: The Dutch calll it Margrietengrond -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Honeycomb delight
I, too, really like honeycomb. It's my favorite part of point ground designs. I'm also very fond of brabant ground, which is sort of the torchon equivalent of honeycomb. But I'm also very fond of half stitch. I love the way it looks as you go from wide to narrow, or work around a curve. So I guess that's three favorite stitches. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Honeycomb delight
My favourite Ground is rose ground. Looking down on it reminds me of a diamond seen from above as in a ring!! Ann in Brisbane Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [lace] Re: Honeycomb delight I, too, really like honeycomb. It's my favourite part of point ground designs. I'm also very fond of Brabant ground, which is sort of the torchon equivalent of honeycomb. But I'm also very fond of half stitch. I love the way it looks as you go from wide to narrow, or work around a curve. So I guess that's three favourite stitches. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] tapioca pudding and other desserts
for David and everyone I went through my mother's cookbook, a small binder of all her handwritten recipes, but she didn't write down her tapioca pudding recipe. I remember it was creamy white, creamy vanilla tasting, and fluffy, with the tapioca pearls floating in it (NOT in appearance like fish eggs, as some say about tapioca; they were more like bubbles). We always called the dish 'tapioca' and left off the 'pudding.' It was years later that I realized 'tapioca' is the name of the starch and is used for thickening in some cuisines. It was also some time before I knew that the British say 'pudding' for what we call 'dessert' (where we say what's for dessert...) When I was at uni., and they served tapioca in the cafeteria, it was disappointing glue-y glup to be avoided. I tried unsuccesfully to duplicate mother's pudding, from other recipes, but in any case no one in my own family cares for it. One individual gets sick if tapioca starch is in the food, so it is simpler to avoid it. Mom's recipe book did yield this one for rice pudding. Her recipes are cook's notes cryptic in that most only list the ingredients, you're supposed to know how to use them LOL. Her rice pudding was yummy, like the tapioca too ;) 1 cup water 1milk 1 egg 1/4 cup rice 1/3 cup sugar raisins and this one, called Gussie's Choc. Cake: Melt 2 sq. choc butter size of walnut cup sugar 1 1/2 cups flour 1 tsp b. soda 1/2 tsp. salt 1 cup milk Finally fold in 1 beaten egg. -- bye for now Bev in Shirley BC near Sooke on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]