Re: [lace] Victoria Albert, lace availability

2009-08-07 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 07/08/2009 04:25:27 GMT Standard Time, dmt11h...@aol.com 
writes:

 Does anyone know if the lace room at the V A is currently open?

Asking a different question, does anyone know if the VA will answer an 
e-mail if Clay was to contact them direct.

If this is an important part of your trip, it seems to me that it would be 
safer to go straight to the horse's mouth to get an accurate answer.  

And if you were to take a print out of their reply with you and find 
something less-than-expected when you arrive, you would be in a stronger 
position 
to be able to pursuade them to take special steps for you.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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[lace] lace room at the VA

2009-08-07 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend

Hi Devon
I was at the VA just 4/5 few weeks ago for an appointment, and in our break
at lunch time we went along to the lace room but it was closed.

We asked about why and were told that because of its location within the
museum, if they are short of staff for room watching (can't think of the
correct term) this is one of the easiest and more convenient rooms to close,
because it's not a through room (if I remember correctly).

We were told that if we were wanting to specifically view the lace room to
ring on the morning of a visit, before travelling to check that it would be
open first. We commented that that could be rather difficult for those
living further afield, we had had to leave home by 4.00am to get to the VA
for our 10.00am appointment that day 

We got the distinct impression that lace is very much bottom of the pile so
to speak. We didn't find any postcards of lace in the shop and only one book
on the shelves. So if you do go ring them on the morning you plan to visit
and check first.

regards
Nicky in Suffolk

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Re: [lace] Shops

2009-08-07 Thread Lesley Blackshaw
I discovered a new lace shop last weekend in Scarborough, Yorkshire 
(UK).  It's a craft shop under the market building and has been taken 
over by a lady who makes lace.  She's in the process of increasing her 
lace stocks and has some lovely bobbins at the moment. (I only bought 
one pair!)  So if anyone's in the area, she's worth a visit and should 
get move so over time.


Lesley

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Re: [lace] Victoria Albert, lace availability

2009-08-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
I wish I were going to London next month, but the person who is going is 
Devon.  Still, I think she probably got this message.


Clay

laceandb...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 07/08/2009 04:25:27 GMT Standard Time, dmt11h...@aol.com 
writes:


  

Does anyone know if the lace room at the V A is currently open?



Asking a different question, does anyone know if the VA will answer an 
e-mail if Clay was to contact them direct.


If this is an important part of your trip, it seems to me that it would be 
safer to go straight to the horse's mouth to get an accurate answer.  

And if you were to take a print out of their reply with you and find 
something less-than-expected when you arrive, you would be in a stronger position 
to be able to pursuade them to take special steps for you.


Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] gasoline smell

2009-08-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hi Alice

I'm moving this to Lace as it *is* relevant as some of your lace got  
contaminated, and you are more likely to get answers.


Fortunately it's not a problem I've had to deal with, but I have a  
question for you - by 'gas' do you mean petrol or diesel?  Petrol is  
what most cars used until quite recently, diesel is what trucks and  
lorries use.


Petrol is much more flamable, but very volatile and I would have  
thought that a few days in fresh air would solve the problem.In  
road traffic accidents petrol spillage is a fire hazard.   Diesel is  
oiler and I guess would be much more difficult to deal with.  A   
diesel spillage makes the road very slippery and needs sand applied to  
it to stop other vehicles from skidding.


Brenda

On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Alice Howell wrote:

I'm very annoyed at my DH.  He put a gas can in my car trunk, with  
my lace stuff.  It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board,  
as well as on the carpet of my new car.


The display board is ruined...soaked.  I pulled the lace pieces off  
if immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I did some quick  
research on the web, and currently have the pieces soaking in water  
with white vinegar.


The top carpet piece from my car trunk can't be cleaned that way (I  
pulled it out)and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.   
I have baking soda spread out on paper in my car (trunk and back  
seat) to try to get rid of the smell left in the car.  There must  
have been a bit that went all the way to the carpet that is glued to  
the sides/bottom of the trunk.


Any suggestions?  Anyone else dealt with this problem?

Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Re: gasoline smell part 2

2009-08-07 Thread Alice Howell
In the USA, 'gas' is what we call petrol.  It was clear...left no marks... but 
the smell drives me nuts.

All the cleaning suggestions for fabrics end with saying NOT to dry it in a 
dryer because any residue could combust.  Drying in air is recommended until 
any trace of odor is gone.

I may have to wash, rinse, re-soak my lace for several days before it's clear 
of the stuff.  About a dozen lace pieces got it, so far.  I'm re-checking the 
rest of the display items just in case I missed some the first time through.

I know that I wanted a new board for display since a recent demo in wet weather 
warped it, but I really didn't plan to do it right now.  A small table, a box, 
my planing book,and some other things got caught in it too.  I keep finding 
more things that smell.  The display board was foam board, so it started to 
dissolve, or at least get very soft.  

Alice in Oregon -- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car 
windows open today.





- Original Message 
From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
To: Alice Howell lacel...@verizon.net
Cc: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:57:36 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] gasoline smell

Hi Alice

I'm moving this to Lace as it *is* relevant as some of your lace got 
contaminated, and you are more likely to get answers.

Fortunately it's not a problem I've had to deal with, but I have a question for 
you - by 'gas' do you mean petrol or diesel?  Petrol is what most cars used 
until quite recently, diesel is what trucks and lorries use.

Petrol is much more flamable, but very volatile and I would have thought that a 
few days in fresh air would solve the problem.In road traffic accidents 
petrol spillage is a fire hazard.   Diesel is oiler and I guess would be much 
more difficult to deal with.  A  diesel spillage makes the road very slippery 
and needs sand applied to it to stop other vehicles from skidding.

Brenda

On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Alice Howell wrote:

 I'm very annoyed at my DH.  He put a gas can in my car trunk, with my lace 
 stuff.  It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board, as well as on 
 the carpet of my new car.
 
 The display board is ruined...soaked.  I pulled the lace pieces off if 
 immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I did some quick research on the 
 web, and currently have the pieces soaking in water with white vinegar.
 
 The top carpet piece from my car trunk can't be cleaned that way (I pulled it 
 out)and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.  I have baking soda 
 spread out on paper in my car (trunk and back seat) to try to get rid of the 
 smell left in the car.  There must have been a bit that went all the way to 
 the carpet that is glued to the sides/bottom of the trunk.
 
 Any suggestions?  Anyone else dealt with this problem?
 
 Alice in Oregon
 
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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Re: gasoline smell part 2

2009-08-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
Alice, how about if you get some of the charcoal that is sold in 
pharmacies to be ingested when someone swallows something poisonous?  If 
you spread some of the charcoal on a flat surface, put a layer of 
lightweight cloth over it, put your lace on that, another layer of 
cloth, and then generously cover with the charcoal, perhaps the charcoal 
would absorb the gas fumes as well as any lingering moisture.  Obviously 
I'm suggesting the cloth sandwich to keep the charcoal dust out of 
your lace.  I imagine that it would take a good long rest for the smell 
to be absorbed, but I don't think it would do any harm, and could do a 
lot of good.  Other options might be silica gel or the gel/charcoal 
combination that they sometimes package with medications.


Clay

Alice Howell wrote:

In the USA, 'gas' is what we call petrol.  It was clear...left no marks... but 
the smell drives me nuts.

All the cleaning suggestions for fabrics end with saying NOT to dry it in a 
dryer because any residue could combust.  Drying in air is recommended until 
any trace of odor is gone.

I may have to wash, rinse, re-soak my lace for several days before it's clear 
of the stuff.  About a dozen lace pieces got it, so far.  I'm re-checking the 
rest of the display items just in case I missed some the first time through.

I know that I wanted a new board for display since a recent demo in wet weather warped it, but I really didn't plan to do it right now.  A small table, a box, my planing book,and some other things got caught in it too.  I keep finding more things that smell.  The display board was foam board, so it started to dissolve, or at least get very soft.  


Alice in Oregon -- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car 
windows open today.





- Original Message 
From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
To: Alice Howell lacel...@verizon.net
Cc: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:57:36 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] gasoline smell

Hi Alice

I'm moving this to Lace as it *is* relevant as some of your lace got 
contaminated, and you are more likely to get answers.

Fortunately it's not a problem I've had to deal with, but I have a question for 
you - by 'gas' do you mean petrol or diesel?  Petrol is what most cars used 
until quite recently, diesel is what trucks and lorries use.

Petrol is much more flamable, but very volatile and I would have thought that a 
few days in fresh air would solve the problem.In road traffic accidents 
petrol spillage is a fire hazard.   Diesel is oiler and I guess would be much 
more difficult to deal with.  A  diesel spillage makes the road very slippery 
and needs sand applied to it to stop other vehicles from skidding.

Brenda

On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Alice Howell wrote:

  

I'm very annoyed at my DH.  He put a gas can in my car trunk, with my lace 
stuff.  It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board, as well as on the 
carpet of my new car.

The display board is ruined...soaked.  I pulled the lace pieces off if 
immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I did some quick research on the 
web, and currently have the pieces soaking in water with white vinegar.

The top carpet piece from my car trunk can't be cleaned that way (I pulled it 
out)and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.  I have baking soda 
spread out on paper in my car (trunk and back seat) to try to get rid of the 
smell left in the car.  There must have been a bit that went all the way to the 
carpet that is glued to the sides/bottom of the trunk.

Any suggestions?  Anyone else dealt with this problem?

Alice in Oregon

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RE: [lace] Re: gasoline smell part 2

2009-08-07 Thread Ruth Budge
And a follow up question, Alice.Just *when* is the divorce??!!   (VBG)

Ruth


-Original Message-
From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
Alice Howell
Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 8:05 AM
To: Brenda Paternoster
Cc: Arachne; lace-c...@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Re: gasoline smell part 2

In the USA, 'gas' is what we call petrol.  It was clear...left no marks...
but the smell drives me nuts.

All the cleaning suggestions for fabrics end with saying NOT to dry it in a
dryer because any residue could combust.  Drying in air is recommended until
any trace of odor is gone.

I may have to wash, rinse, re-soak my lace for several days before it's
clear of the stuff.  About a dozen lace pieces got it, so far.  I'm
re-checking the rest of the display items just in case I missed some the
first time through.

I know that I wanted a new board for display since a recent demo in wet
weather warped it, but I really didn't plan to do it right now.  A small
table, a box, my planing book,and some other things got caught in it too.  I
keep finding more things that smell.  The display board was foam board, so
it started to dissolve, or at least get very soft.  

Alice in Oregon -- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car
windows open today.

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[lace] Report on the IOLI Convention

2009-08-07 Thread Whitham, Irene Steve
Hello all,
I second that the convention was great.
The organizers did a great job, there is an unbelieveable amount of work that
goes into a function like this, up front and behind the scenes.  Thank you so
very much!
I was in aawww of all the favours that we got, my dining room table is still
full of all my goodies and lace stuff that I want to enjoy still.
My classes were great, I took Tønder lace with Marianne Stang from Germany,
where we learned the technicalities of Tønder Lace.  For a Wednesday class I
took Hedgehog Mania with Lia Baumeister, where we could chose what technique
we wanted to work a Hedgehog in, I chose Russian Tape.  Saturday class was
Organized Chaos with Jean Leader, oh my.the possibilities, all I need is
time.  All 3 classes so very different, but oh so much fun.  Saturday
afternoon, I took a beaded bobbin course with Karen Calhoun, a great way to
end the convention.a finished beaded bobbin!
I now have 4 new works in progress..can't decide which I want to work on!
The vendors room.Wow, a lacemakers dream!
Looking forward to Portland, 2010!

Irene Whitham
Surrey, BC














[lace] Report on the IOLI Convention
Patsy A. Goodman
Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:12 -0700

Hi,

Got back from the IOLI Convention late Saturday afternoon.

It was one hectic, whirlwind week. Ending in total exhaustion. After checking
in on Sunday, then registering, we received lovely navy blue canvas bags and
our class schedule, along with a few goodies in our bags. That night was an
ice cream social, we renewed old friendships and met a few new friends. Monday
started off early with classes. My morning class was with Bridget Cook. Walked
into class and there is Bridget with a neck brace. Seems the week before she
had fallen and broken a bone in her neck. She was supposed to be home in bed
but just had to come to convention. I took her class in Idrija lace. This was
an enjoyable class, with some good humor thrown in. My afternoon class was
with Louise Colgan in Lace Fans. I felt that Louise was one fantastic
instructor. I couldn't believe that she had five different techniques that
she was teaching in one class, and was able to switch from one kind of lace to
another as she went around the room from one person to the next. She knew
exactly where each student was in the patterns and was able to help with
everyone. On Wednesday most of the people went on the tours, but with me in a
handicap scooter I choose to take an other class. I took Gros Point de Venise
with Sylvia Muraria. This was a very intense class and she tried to squeeze in
too much in such a short time frame. She was a good teacher but I think this
class should have been stretched out to a four day class. The vendors room --
there were loads of vendors to choose from. Threads as far as the eye could
see. Pillows, bobbins, gadgets of all kinds. Some beautiful carved bobbins.
And books, if one dealer didn't have what you wanted the next one did. Even
jewelry. Some fantastic hand made silver lace pieces. They even created a
combination necklace, brooch piece of a lacemaker making her lace. It was
beautiful but my funds didn't allow me to make that purchase.
I attended the Arachne lunch. It was nice and we had Bridget Cook give the
speech. Then there was the breakfast buffet and I don't think anyone went away
hungry from that. Friday evening was the big banquet and everyone was dressed
up for the occasion, with many wearing lovely pieces of lace to show off. A
lovely couple danced for us and the white dress the lady wore had yards of
beautiful hand made lace. Myself and Linda Knott accepted our IOLI Charter for
our new group of lacemakers called The Chula Bobbin Lacers. There were
meetings and programs every night. There was the big Tat Off, with also the
Crochet and Bobbin Lace events. I only stayed for the first competition of the
Tat Off and I was just too tired to stay for any of the rest.
My purchases were way too many. But I'm sure the vendors were happy. : )
So many of the familiar teachers were there including Georgia Seitz. There
were loads and loads of raffle prizes given away every day.
A wonderful time was had by all, but one lady who had a bad experience, I'm
sorry to say. That will be her story to tell.
I've still got a lot of sleep to catch up on.

Patsy A. Goodman
Chula Vista, CA, USA

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[lace] Petrol/gasoline smell

2009-08-07 Thread Clive Betty Rice
Dear Alice,
I do know that the deodorizer, Febreeze© is used by people who clear
houses/rooms where dead people have been for awhile. We had a horrible
dead mouse-odor and could not find the source. We phoned our friendly
mortician who gave us the name of the cleaning crew who gave us
Febreeze © as the only good deodorant. It worked! If it works on a
pathological death, would not one think it would work on petrol fumes?
Let us know...
Sorry about the lace.

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Alice Howell wrote:

 I'm very annoyed at my DH. He put a gas can in my car trunk, with
 my lace stuff. It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board,
 as well as on the carpet of my new car.

(snip
 Any suggestions? Anyone else dealt with this problem?

 Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] gasoline smell

2009-08-07 Thread Alice Howell
I'm very annoyed at my DH.  He put a gas can in my car trunk, with my lace 
stuff.  It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board, as well as on the 
carpet of my new car.

The display board is ruined...soaked.  I pulled the lace pieces off if 
immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I did some quick research on the 
web, and currently have the pieces soaking in water with white vinegar.

The top carpet piece from my car trunk can't be cleaned that way (I pulled it 
out)and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.  I have baking soda 
spread out on paper in my car (trunk and back seat) to try to get rid of the 
smell left in the car.  There must have been a bit that went all the way to the 
carpet that is glued to the sides/bottom of the trunk. 

Any suggestions?  Anyone else dealt with this problem?

Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] Re: gasoline smell part 2

2009-08-07 Thread Alice Howell
In the USA, 'gas' is what we call petrol.  It was clear...left no marks... but 
the smell drives me nuts.

All the cleaning suggestions for fabrics end with saying NOT to dry it in a 
dryer because any residue could combust.  Drying in air is recommended until 
any trace of odor is gone.

I may have to wash, rinse, re-soak my lace for several days before it's clear 
of the stuff.  About a dozen lace pieces got it, so far.  I'm re-checking the 
rest of the display items just in case I missed some the first time through.

I know that I wanted a new board for display since a recent demo in wet weather 
warped it, but I really didn't plan to do it right now.  A small table, a box, 
my planing book,and some other things got caught in it too.  I keep finding 
more things that smell.  The display board was foam board, so it started to 
dissolve, or at least get very soft.  

Alice in Oregon -- overcast, and supposed to rain, so I can't leave the car 
windows open today.





- Original Message 
From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
To: Alice Howell lacel...@verizon.net
Cc: Arachne l...@arachne.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:57:36 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] gasoline smell

Hi Alice

I'm moving this to Lace as it *is* relevant as some of your lace got 
contaminated, and you are more likely to get answers.

Fortunately it's not a problem I've had to deal with, but I have a question for 
you - by 'gas' do you mean petrol or diesel?  Petrol is what most cars used 
until quite recently, diesel is what trucks and lorries use.

Petrol is much more flamable, but very volatile and I would have thought that a 
few days in fresh air would solve the problem.In road traffic accidents 
petrol spillage is a fire hazard.   Diesel is oiler and I guess would be much 
more difficult to deal with.  A  diesel spillage makes the road very slippery 
and needs sand applied to it to stop other vehicles from skidding.

Brenda

On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Alice Howell wrote:

 I'm very annoyed at my DH.  He put a gas can in my car trunk, with my lace 
 stuff.  It tipped over and spilled on my lace display board, as well as on 
 the carpet of my new car.
 
 The display board is ruined...soaked.  I pulled the lace pieces off if 
 immediately, but about 1/3 of them smelled. I did some quick research on the 
 web, and currently have the pieces soaking in water with white vinegar.
 
 The top carpet piece from my car trunk can't be cleaned that way (I pulled it 
 out)and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.  I have baking soda 
 spread out on paper in my car (trunk and back seat) to try to get rid of the 
 smell left in the car.  There must have been a bit that went all the way to 
 the carpet that is glued to the sides/bottom of the trunk.
 
 Any suggestions?  Anyone else dealt with this problem?
 
 Alice in Oregon
 
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[lace-chat] Re: gasoline smell part 2

2009-08-07 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Aug 7, 2009, at 18:04, Alice Howell wrote:

In the USA, 'gas' is what we call petrol.  It was clear...left no 
marks... but the smell drives me nuts.


All the cleaning suggestions for fabrics end with saying NOT to dry it 
in a dryer because any residue could combust.  Drying in air is 
recommended until any trace of odor is gone.


I may have to wash, rinse, re-soak my lace for several days before 
it's clear of the stuff.


Yup. Though hanging out in the breeze works better than washing :)

How I know... The first (*and last*, let me tell you g) time I tried 
to gas up my car by myself, I messed up so badly, I could have served 
as a wick -- I was *drenched* in the smelly stuff.


I used the gas station's restroom to wash some of the stuff off of me 
-- since I smoke, I was seriously worried about setting myself on fire 
-- and emerged *almost* as smelly as before though, presumably, the 
evil stuff was somewhat diluted. I also discovered that I'm alergic to 
gasoline; wherever it landed on the skin (face and hands), the skin 
went red and puffy.


When I got home -- some 6 hrs later -- the smell was somewhat less. The 
entire outfit -- from the outer jacket (it was winter) to the 
underpants and bra -- went into the washing machine. Three times. And 
emerged smelling of soap and gasoline. I almost decided to throw 
everything away but the jacket was the only one warm enough, so I kept 
wearing it, smell or no. And, after about a week, the smell was almost 
gone. So I hung the rest of the ensemble out on the deck and left it 
to the elements for a week. With the smell all gone, I then ran all the 
pieces through the washer again...


I know which jacket it was -- it's still my favourite -- but can't 
remember what else I wore that day and can't tell any more.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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