Re: [lace] Bamboo and milk yarns
Hello Robin From what I've read and heard, I believe bamboo is a type of rayon. I would look for bamboo threads in the same section as the rayons in your book (an excellent reference!). I wonder if very young bamboo stems can be retted like flax. That would produce actual fibers (the fluid transport system of the plant is what is spun into linen). Then the bamboo thread would belong with linen in your book. But only if the manufacturer states how it was made! Otherwise we have to assume the thread is reconstituted cellulose and we're back to rayon. From what Francis Busschaert has written, both to me and to the list, it's clear that the majority of bamboo thread is regenerated and belongs with the rayons and synthetics. It's one of the new generation of rayons along with Tencel/Lyocell. A very small amount of bamboo is bast fibre and processed in the same way as linen, but it is very expensive. The bamboo which Bart Francis use in their silkbamboo mix is this type of fibre, but as silk is the majority fibre I've classified it under silk. That leads me to another tangent--can we get spinnable fiber from Equisetum (aka horsetails, scouring rush)? They're hollow, so the transport system channels must be quite straight and clustered into that narrow rim--nice and dense, with little garbage. And the rigidity of the stems is because they have silicon dioxide (quartz or glass) incorporated into the cell walls. Could make a pretty exotic fiber! Sorry, this isn't exactly on-topic, but I guess I'm philosophical tonight. I'm not into spinning but I *think* you can use just about any fibrous material to hand spin - providing the fibres are long enough. Very short or brittle fibre would be very difficult. Milk/casein is less easy to pigeonhole. It's proteinaceous, like silk and hair/fur/wool, but it seems to be as thoroughly doctored as any of the traditional synthetics. I think it has to go with them. The casein is not, itself, an actual fiber (like silk or hair), but is *made into* a fiber so that it can be spun. Francis says that the research into caesin fibre was done 20-30 years ago when there was a glut of dairy produce in Europe. It's a bit gimmicky and no longer produced for mainstream textile use but does have a specialist niche in the medical profession for heart valves. The cone of cotton/milk fibre I bought at Uppinghams may well have been in their store for many years - it's an Aladdin's cave for knitters and weavers, and of course, lacemakers; they keep finding things in the attic! Again the majority fibre in that yarn is cotton and so I have it in the cotton list. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Rayon Thread
Dear Friends, I think of rayon as being made from tree pulp, and though many fibers are being refined to micro fibers, and bamboo is also a tree, fibers of refined rayon compared to bamboo, are only close cousins in hand. I'm currently using a rayon thread which I found in my thread draw. I must have bought it over 10 years ago and it's working up beautifully. It's made by Isofil so I suspect is actually meant for machine embroidery. I reckon it's about equivalent to Madeira Tanne 50. Now, apart from being labelled Rayon, it also says it is viscose So my question is: is this a natural fibre or not? Thanks David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] 2 brave buglers
Thank you Malvary Brenda. You are both very brave to work with bugles! You are the experts I'm sure it depends on the intended use of the lace, but as a lace newbie I don't think I could get comfortable working the bugles directly into the lace itself. Having been on the losing end of bugles with both Nymo Silamide (sp?) beading thread, they freak me out. Sincerely, Susan, counting the Ontario license plates in Islamorada but not seeing Malvary g - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Rayon Thread
David C COLLYER wrote: Now, apart from being labelled Rayon, it also says it is viscose So my question is: is this a natural fibre or not Viscose is the liquid from which rayon is extruded, so it would have started out from wood pulp, but then gone through the addition of various chemicals that disolve the cellulose (usually sodium hydroxide and something else that I can't remember). This liquid is then extruded into an acid bath where further chemical reactions convert it back to cellulose. So, it is neither natural nor artificial, but a combination of both. hth Lesley in sunny Marple (and about time too) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Needle lace and colors
I'm still a beginner in needle lace, and ready to start Pattern 5 from the Guild of Needle Lace Basic Book. It's a bird, looks like a Toucan or something tropical. I'd like to do it with several colors - yellow for the bill, white for the face, blue feathers, but I'm not sure about how to begin. When I couch my trace threads to begin, should I couch with the color I expect to use when I do my final top stitching? If I do, I think it would be best to join it all together as I work, using a crochet hook to go under and make things secure. Should I simply couch it all in one color, and hope I can cover it all with the top stitching? Keep it simple? Another question is how do I decide in which order to work the different sections? My pieces have all been simple, but as they get more complex, I keep wondering where to begin, and what comes next? Do I want to avoid working over the top of already finished sections? Do I start in the center and work my way out? Does it vary from piece to piece and just do what I want? Thanks for any input you have. I'm working from books without a live person nearby. Liz in Oz has answered a lot of my questions off list, but I hate to pester her all the time. So now I'm asking the Arachne List! Lenore in Grand Rapids, Michigan 12F above zero. B! http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com you can see my recent needle lace projects - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Rayon Thread
Viscose or viscose rayon is the older/traditional rayon which was originally called Art SIlk. The new forms of rayon are Tencel or Lyocell. These were once brand names but not any more. Most bamboo is also one of the new generation of rayon. They are all regenerated cellulose fibres; originally from a natural source but considered to be man-made. Synthetic threads are those made from minerals such as petroleum oil. I'm currently using a rayon thread which I found in my thread draw. I must have bought it over 10 years ago and it's working up beautifully. It's made by Isofil so I suspect is actually meant for machine embroidery. I reckon it's about equivalent to Madeira Tanne 50. Now, apart from being labelled Rayon, it also says it is viscose So my question is: is this a natural fibre or not? Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] 2 brave buglers
It was just a two hour workshop to try as many different ways of adding beads as we could, and it's just a sampler. I don't know what thread Malvery chose to use but mine was a thickish linen. Brenda Thank you Malvary Brenda. You are both very brave to work with bugles! You are the experts I'm sure it depends on the intended use of the lace, but as a lace newbie I don't think I could get comfortable working the bugles directly into the lace itself. Having been on the losing end of bugles with both Nymo Silamide (sp?) beading thread, they freak me out. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] [Lace]
Hello At the last Knitting and Stitching show in London that my daughter and I went too. I bought a cone of bamboo thread with the thought of making lace with it. It is the same thickness as Tanne 30. It is a lovely soft thread, so how it will work out using it to make lace is any bodies guess. Uppington Yarns is the place I bought it. Daphne Freezing Norfolk England where we have had heavy snow showers this afternoon. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] needle lace questions
Lenore and Liz I would be very interested in hearing the answers to Lenore's questions. Even though I don't make needle lace myself, I am interested in the process. And who knows? When my eyes just can't do bobbin lace anymore, maybe I'll switch to needle lace where I can use a magnifier. Just hearing the discussion about how to work needlelace, and hearing the anwers to questions from a relative beginner would be very interesting. I'll read them all and store them in memory. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] bamboo
Daphne For whatever it's worth, I've discovered that Madeira Tanne 30 is exactly right for working Honiton patterns that are enlarged to 200% of original size. What sort of lace do you think you will make with yours? Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace-chat] Pringle knitted sweaters
I found this animated video by Pringle, a Scottish company which makes sweaters with a distinctive diamond pattern, quite amusing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoiW5-uA3_Efeature=player_embedded Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Pringle knitted sweaters
Thanks, Jean. I enjoyed that :-) Patricia in Wales scotl...@aol.com To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Pringle knitted sweaters
Well! I just didn't quite know what to make of this!! We Americans are so accustomed to such complete honesty and lack of competition in our ads... (ahem... not...) Still, this was unique, to say the least! Clay On 1/29/2010 1:44 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: I found this animated video by Pringle, a Scottish company which makes sweaters with a distinctive diamond pattern, quite amusing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoiW5-uA3_Efeature=player_embedded Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Dinner Plans
From: M.D. A group of 40-year-old buddies discuss and discuss where they should meet for dinner. Finally it is agreed upon that they should meet at Gasthaus Gutenberger restaurant because the waitresses there have low cut blouses and nice breasts. 10 years later, at 50 years of age, the group meets again and once again they discuss and discuss where they should meet. Finally it is agreed upon that they should meet at the Gasthaus Gutenberger because the food there is very good and the wine selection is good also. 10 years later at 60 years of age, the group meets again and once again they discuss and discuss where they should meet. Finally it is agreed upon that they should meet at the Gasthaus Gutenberger because they can eat there in peace and quiet and the restaurant is smoke free. 10 years later, at 70 years of age, the group meets again and once again they discuss and discuss where they should meet. Finally it is agreed upon that they should meet at the Gasthaus Gutenberger because the restaurant is wheel chair accessible and they even have an elevator. 10 years later, at 80 years of age, the group meets again and once again they discuss and discuss where they should meet. Finally it is agreed upon that they should meet at the Gasthaus Gutenberger because that would be a great idea because they have never been there before. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
