[lace] Re: and a purloined solution...
Does anyone know of a UK supplier for this gadget - the Gimp Grabber or wooden-handled hackle plier? It sounds most useful. I only have a very basic hackle plier, with no handle at all, and find it quite awkward to use. I certainly couldn't use it to hold a broken thread prior to throwing it out. on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 Clay Blackwell wrote: ...After I used my first Swivel Hackle, I had the notion that it would be very pleasing if the metal handle could be replaced with a bobbin. I gave Richard Worthen one of these hackles, and asked him to insert the working part into one of his turned bobbins and on Fri, 12 Feb 2010 kenn van dieren replied: ...the copyright symbol is for the name of the tool Gimp Grabber not the tool itself... Bridget Marrow, in Pinner, Middlesex. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: and a purloined solution...
There are lots to be found on a UK google search. A new one I have just seen, priced at £4.80, is one with a bamboo handle - (http://www.lakelandflytying.com/40/Hackle_Pliers.aspx). You need the 4 version. But there are lots of others on other sites. I would say though, if you work with fine thread, avoid the ones with a brass handle as they are quite heavy. I am still using the one Tamara gave me when we couldn't get them in the UK, and using a brass one belonging to one of my students, I found it too heavy to attach to a whisker, as it was too 'robust'. They are immensely useful for broken and for running-out threads, as they just drop in place as a bobbin replacement, so more than one in your workbox will find a use. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] More hackle pliers
I should have scrolled down! On the same website they have a pair very like the one Tamara gave me (Griffin Rotating Hackle Pliers) and if you go right to the bottom of the page, one with a cocobolo wooden handle. I've not seen so many all on one site before. Obviously this style is becoming more popular with fly-tyers too. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] More hackle pliers
In just the same way as you use your tweezers! Squeeze and they open, release and they shut. Once on, you have both hands free. One of my students has some reverse action tweezers that one of the suppliers sells, and she's as pleased as punch with them BUT, they are quite a bit bigger than a bobbin so although they grab an end well, they are *inconvenient* to use as a replacement bobbin. Also, because this long, thin style of hackle plier has the swivel/hinge at the top, they lay flat on the pillow alongside the bobbins, so you don't knock the device by mistake. I have seen this happen with the longer, rigid tweezers. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] 17th century Genoese lace on Ebay
I strongly disagree with the opinions that this piece is a modern cotton copy. It has all the hallmarks of a 17th century Genoese piece. The thread is a tightly woven 'cold' linen, even though it shines in the photo like cotton (this is not uncommon and is largely due to the finishing process and general wear of the piece). The general size and pattern is correct. You can see similar examples recently verified and sold on the Mendes lace site - they are one of the most active antique lace dealers around. Early plaited Genoese lace is famous for leaves, in fact they perfected the art. They were copying contemporary Venetian reticella lace. 19th century Cluny and Italian pieces are in general much coarser. I am completely convinced that this piece is genuine. I've handled several pieces from museum collections (including the remnants of the Ida Schiff collection in Minneapolis - it was disbursed to several museums and dealers). And I have others like it in my own collection, including one that Pat Earnshaw very eagerly bought from me that I now wish I hadn't sold. The seller has also discussed several other pieces which came in the same collection as this one, which I am also convinced are authentic. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Tallies in 17th c lace (was: 17th century Genoese lace on Ebay)
Thanks, Tamara! That's a lot of useful information--I appreciate your taking the time. As I said to Sharon, I certainly still have a lot to learn! :-) --Nancy Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA From: Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net I didn't think the 17th century lace had leaves?? Yes it did. Leaves -- and other woven shapes, like triangles -- appear even earlier... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] question
A friend of mine has posed this question for which I have no answer: I wonder what ever happened to the Dolores Roche memorial award for excellence in bobbin lace design and execution? Does anyone happen to have an answer I could forward on to her? Thanks, Kim - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] A Challenge: was... Tallies in 17th c lace
Does anyone out there have even a *tiny* idea about how much the lace world could gain if the holders of the few remaining bits of early laces would, in the interest of art and knowledge, allow the scholars among us to use images and their own research to illuminate the structures of the early laces? It *could* be done! There are those among us who have the knowledge and the skills. (And I certainly don't claim to be one!) But this is not something that can be done without images of the rare and precious remnants of lace that remain. I suspect that the great museums of the world - in every country - possess bits and pieces, which , in their ignorance, they hold close, in case they give away a worldly secret. What will it take to open these treasures up to research? Is this the next big project for Arachne? Before I became a member, Arachne miraculously consolidated enough support to provide significant (if not substantial) funding for The Lace Dealer's Pattern Book, for the Luton Museum Services. Is it possible to convince one or more museums that it is time for another watershed project? Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA On 2/15/2010 7:04 PM, Nancy Neff wrote: Thanks, Tamara! That's a lot of useful information--I appreciate your taking the time. As I said to Sharon, I certainly still have a lot to learn! :-) --Nancy Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA From: Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net I didn't think the 17th century lace had leaves?? Yes it did. Leaves -- and other woven shapes, like triangles -- appear even earlier... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tatra Mountains Museum
My wonderful? computer just deleted all the previous kept year's messages (yesterday) including the Tatra information. I would appreciate if someone would reply with the web site address. I didn't have the time to really have a good look. Thanks, Diane Z Lubec, Maine USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: A Challenge: was... Tallies in 17th c lace
On Feb 15, 2010, at 22:40, Kim Davis wrote: I suspect one of the reasons museums in general do not have images out there is because they don't know exactly what they have, and don't want to admit it. That may be one of the reasons. Another reason could be that they don't know how much detail lace-fanatics really require for proper study. I saw that aspect of it, when I got into correspondence with a museum in Poland. The museum holds a series of miniatures of several figures from the Jagiellonian royal line by Cranach. I have a few postcards with those figures and, some of the trimmings on their clothes -- the shiny ones in particular, but some white veil trimmings as well -- looked like they might have been very early bobbin lace, as it was transitioning from the passementerie stage. But, of course, by the time the miniatures were further miniaturised and then printed on postcards, it was really hard to tell what was what. The people at the museum were very friendly and obliging and sent me -- for free -- a disc with photos of all the miniatures in the series. Very good photos, as such :) But, even by isolating and magnifying fragments, the best I could determine (before I got into the same situation that the photographer of Antonioni's Blow Up did) was that it was not bobbin lace. So I gave up, thanked them most effusively and that was that. But. *Had it been* bobbin lace and I wanted to study the design of it, I'd have been up the creek, without a paddle. Photos of lace for study purposes require very good photography, with multiple, close-up shots of different bits, all done at very high resolution . Which might be another reason why some museums shy away from posting photos of their lace collections. A while back, there was a bit of a campaign to get the Metropolitan Museum in New York City to photograph their lace collection and make it avilable, on-line, to everyone who wants to study it. Victoria and Albert did, why couldn't the Met? I got into a correspondence with Tom Campbell (then the curator at the Ratti, now the director of the Museum) on the subject and this was, in part, the response I got: Data entry staff cost a minimum of $25 per hour, for the most rudimentary data entry, not to mention proofing and correcting by the curators or other specialist staff. Photographs by our photography studio cost about $200 per image, when broken down in terms of staff time. The Museum holds 5000 pieces of lace. More than one photo of each piece would really be needed for proper study. And it was more than 2yrs ago; I expect that the costs have gone up since. He also suggested substantial donations were always welcome but, even those could not guarantee that they'd be directed at exactly the spot (lace) that I was interested in. He also suggested I should come to NYC and do my study in person. Since the reason I wanted to study on line was the little matter of the cost of getting to NYC and staying there for a week or longer, I realised that his idea of substantial donations and mine were not even in the same ballpark... Nothing's ever as simple as it appears at the first glance :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace-chat] Fwd: WHAT'S AMORE?
A somewhat late Valentine's Day poem - - - - - - - - - poem by Anon E. Mouse to celebrate the day: WHAT'S AMORE? (sung to Dean Martin's That's Amore) When the moon hits your eye Like a big pizza pie That's amore. When an eel bites your hand And that's not what you planned That's a moray. When our habits are strange And our customs deranged That's our mores. When your horse munches straw And the bales total four That's some more hay. When a sand-coated board buffs your nails, yes milord that's emory. When two patterns of lines cross to form new designs That's a moiré. The briefest of pauses in poetic clauses, They are morae. When Othello's poor wife She gets stabbed with a knife That's a Moor, eh? When a Japanese knight Used a sword in a fight That's Samurai. Lesley No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2687 - Release Date: 02/14/10 07:35:00 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
RE: [lace-chat] helpful husbands
30 my home town comes to a grinding halt with 2 I think everyone would hibernate if we got that much snow. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
