RE: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread robinlace
 pene piip  wrote: 
Ulrike Voelker also showed those of us attending one of her workshops
that you can also cut the contact that you place over the pricking with

I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
===

I took a workshop on applique, and the pattern pieces were made of adhesive 
film (Contact paper).  We stored them on a piece of mylar.

Another way to store film-edged prickings, since they have lint on them after 
being on the pillow, is to stick them to more adhesive film (the "right" side, 
leaving the paper backing in place) or similar material that won't be damaged 
by something stuck to it.  Or back onto the paper backing that that piece of 
film came off (don't throw it away when you make the pricking.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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RE: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread Jay Ekers
If it is paper+contact it is only re-usable a few time so make two copies
originally and file the spare photocopy.

Jay in Sydney

-Original Message-
From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
David C COLLYER
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 12:25 AM
To: pene piip; Arachne Arachne
Subject: RE: [lace] Securing prickings

At 05:08 PM 10/04/2010, pene piip wrote:
>Ulrike Voelker also showed those of us attending one of her workshops 
>that you can also cut the contact that you place over the pricking with 
>an extra 2 to 3 inches around the edge & then stick the contact to the 
>pricking & the pillow & you don't need any pins.
>I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the 
>pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
>I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.

Surely you'd just trim off the extra plastic once you've finished.
David in Ballarat

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[lace] RE: gold plated pins

2010-04-10 Thread Jay Ekers
Brass pins used in the more humid Sydney area do tarnish after a while. Not
a problem as they clean easily if soaked for a few minutes in a hot dilute
solution of liquid detergent, and vinegar.  Rinse and dry well afterwards.

No problem, except for the forgotten UFO where the pins were so corroded
they could not be pulled out of the pillow block (high density polystyrene)
so it had to be discarded.
 
Now I mainly use stainless steel pins.  This change, of course, does not
help the brass pin makers 

Jay in Sydney

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From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
David C COLLYER
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 12:27 AM
To: viviennewal...@aol.com; lace-c...@arachne.com
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] gold plated pins!

>
>The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for 
>a long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing.

Vivienne,
it's a luxurious idea, but I find my brass pins, many of which are about 15
years old and used over and over, have not tarnished at all.

Perhaps it is the constant use which prevents this.

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread kygerman
I do this for a lot of years. I just turn the excess sticky part under. 
Reinforcement.


Christa

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From: "Sue Babbs" 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:28 AM
To: 
Subject: Fw: [lace] Securing prickings


If you want to keep the pricking, just trim off the excess contact paper.

Or in the case of the stuff I buy from Walgreen's, you can just peel it 
off. A little of the inkjet ink comes too, but the pricking would still be 
useable.


Sue Babbs


- Original Message - 
From: "pene piip" 

I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.




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[lace] Arachne get together

2010-04-10 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Clay,
We did look into using a college campus in Illinois and the expenses were still 
high, but the main problem was getting people from the airport to the colleges. 
 No public transport and just very expensive taxi rides.

I like your idea of getting together in the evening but most conventions these 
days seem to fill the evenings with programs and I doubt anyone could entertain 
the size of the group in their bedroom.  We had 42 at lunch in Rockford.  I do 
remember my first convention in Ann Arbor, MI where our bedroom became a 
meeting point for people interested in the Princess pillow that my room mate, 
Diane Williams, took to convention.  We ran out of snacks and drinks that night 
and I had a hard time getting to bed but I was younger then. :-)

Janice


 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread Su Carter

On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:02 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:



Personally I feel that the pricking would not buckle so much if it  
was a thin Manilla-type card, but as mine are always paper with  
Contact, this is often a problem. I feel it has something to do  
with large areas of point ground, rather than the areas of half or  
whole stitch, and may well be the angle of the pins in those areas.


David



Hi David,

Oy, I hate lifting prickings -- I've had it happen with thin pricking  
card, thick pricking card, and Contact!!! Aaargh!


Yes, I agree that large areas of point ground are likely to be a  
problem and watching the angle of the pins VERY carefully generally  
sorts it for me. On the other hand, you could always leave out the  
pins altogether in the point ground. Or if that gives you heartburn,  
try pinning every other diagonal, or only leaving in 3 or 4 rows at  
the working edge and pulling the rest.


Good Luck!
Su, in finally back to normal spring weather
Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] IOLI conventions - lunch

2010-04-10 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hi Janice -

I don't get to all of the IOLI conventions...  I go every three or four 
years.  And so I don't think my opinion is necessarily as valid as that 
of someone who is a "regular"!


However, regardless of the pricepoint, I think that whatever the food 
is, in a conference hotel, you're paying far more than it's worth!!  
(And I don't buy the "service and space excuse...  you go to a nice 
restaurant, you pay for what you eat and get way better service and 
ambiance!!!)  Conference hotels charge those prices because they can get 
them.   I appreciated that the Arachne lunch at Rockford was "only" $20, 
but when it was cold pizza, I was less than thrilled.   But a bigger 
issue was that the only people I *really* got to meet were those at my 
table - and this was true at the convention I had attended before 
Rockford as well


So...  I suggest this:   On a designated evening, perhaps Arachne could 
have a "happy hour" in someone's room, BYOB with some assorted snacks 
contributed by those attending; or it could take place in the Bar, where 
non-alcoholic beverages are also served.   I'm happy with that.  The 
best part is that people get to mingle and meet each other.  That's the 
whole point, so invent a way to make the entire time contribute to that.


Someone who responded to the IOLI survey (report in the gorgeous new 
bulletin!) suggested looking into college campuses for venues.  I second 
that motion!!!  In the summertime, they're often very accessible, and 
far less expensive.


That's my 2 cents worth!!

Clay

On 4/10/2010 12:18 PM, Janice Blair wrote:

I have chaired an IOLI convention in Rockford where we managed to keep the cost 
of the Arachne lunch down to $20.  I did mention in my last email that the I am 
aware that the cost covers the room as well as food and service.  I am not 
attacking Portland as I appreciate how much hard work it is to put on a 
convention of this size and length.

I wrote to the next hosts asking them to try to keep the costs down, that is if 
they are planning on providing Arachne with a meeting place.  The Maryland 
guild did not have it on their agenda and are looking into it.  This is the 
second year we are charged $35 for lunch and I did not want it to be taken as a 
price that becomes the norm.  I also explained that all we required was a room, 
preferably with a podium for announcements.  We do not need a speaker like last 
year, because we just want to get together in an informal situation and get to 
know each other better.  Just the opportunity to put faces to names.

LA would have been impossible to find a restaurant in close proximity of the 
hotel but we could find a lot less expensive food in their restaurants.  How do 
other Arachnes feel about costs for our get together?  Maybe this should go to 
Chat rather than take up more space on Lace.
Janice
  Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: "lacel...@verizon.net"
Unless you have chaired a large convention, and dealt with a large hotel, you 
probably don't realize what a meal costs in that environment.  Also realize 
that part of the price is the room cost, as well as the food and the service.  
Unless the group wishes to change the format of future Arachne meetings to a 
non-food event, or schedule it outside the hotel, expect the price to be 
similar in the future.You will not find a fast food price in a commercial 
hotel setting.


Alice in Oregon
Host guild member and Display chairman



Apr 9, 2010 06:36:23 PM, jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


   

I also wrote to the 2011 and 2012 convention hosts asking them to try to keep
the cost of the luncheon down, as I know some people did not attend last year 
because
of the expense.  I think our numbers were down in 2009 because the California 
meals
were so expensive.
   

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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] gold plated pins!

2010-04-10 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hello Vivienne -

I have no problem treating my brass pins when they get tarnished.  Then, 
they're good as new.   However, I've also shifted to using primarily 
stainless pins, because I have less trouble with bending, and also 
because they come in so many wonderful sizes.


As for the gold plating idea, I can tell you this:  Gold is a relatively 
soft metal.  When it is used for plating, the tiniest little 
"compromise" in the plating allows the brass beneath to tarnish, and 
soon you have flaking plating!   I can't wear gold plated jewelry, 
because the slightest scratch ends up destroying the piece.   I also do 
embroidery and needlepoint, and quite a few years ago, the gold-plated 
needle was all the rage!  Now, I grant you that a single needle moving 
through lots of stiff fibers gets far more exercise during  an 
embroidery project than the individual pins do in lace.  However, it's 
like putting our pins in a lab for QC:  work it, work it, work it  
does it hold up?   And, the answer is clearly no.  Before I had finished 
one (fairly large) project, the gold plating was completely worn away, 
and I was left with a needle that was indistinguishable from the others 
in my needle case.  Definitely not worth the money, in my opinion, 
especially when you consider that 250 pins wouldn't get you far in any 
project!!


Clay



On 4/10/2010 7:11 AM, viviennewal...@aol.com wrote:

Hi all, I would like your views. Though I am a supplier this is not
promoting any thing I sell but I think Lace makers need to express an opinion  
on.
The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for a
long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing. they tell me they are
specially treated but that they know in, their words, 6 months 2 years 5 years
  they will not be the same. So they are proposing the make a gold plated
pin  which they claim will stay bright and untarnished for years and years.
They say  but are not fixed on it yet, the price would be similar to say our
Torchon pin  but you would get say 250 as opposed to 400. I have told them I
don't think  British lace makers would pay the differance. But then I
thought of the ladies  who have to replace their pins so now I don't know. They
are a good kind family  companya and I don't want them to waste money on some
thing that won't sell.  What do you think? Vivienne

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread kygerman
I do this for a lot of years. I just turn the excess sticky part under. 
Reinforcement.


Christa

--
From: "Sue Babbs" 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:28 AM
To: 
Subject: Fw: [lace] Securing prickings


If you want to keep the pricking, just trim off the excess contact paper.

Or in the case of the stuff I buy from Walgreen's, you can just peel it 
off. A little of the inkjet ink comes too, but the pricking would still be 
useable.


Sue Babbs


- Original Message - 
From: "pene piip" 

I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.




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[lace] photos added to webshots

2010-04-10 Thread Aurelia Loveman
For textile lovers like me, there are now one knitted shawl, one lace fan, and 
one tapestry to be seen in my album on the Arachne webshots community.

Aurelia

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread bev walker
hm, well - my prickings are paper photocopies with a layer of clear packing
tape. You could try the tethers (or moorings - thanks Sally!), they do hold
and there is no see-saw pulling on the pricking that would cause a tear. I
sew the threads through the pricking with a needle. If there is a concern
with tearing, reinforce the point of attachment with tape :)
You don't *have* to try it, it is more fiddly than simply placing pins, but
it is a different and rather pleasing set-up.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:

> Dear Friends,
> I should have said when I first wrote this question, that my pricking are
> always photocopies or scans covered in Contact. As such, threads like these
> would not hold, or would tear the pricking.
>
> Thanks
> David in Ballarat
>
>
>  sew
>> long loops of thread into the pricking at strategic points (e.g. where you
>> would normally pin), and pin the loops tight 'way back from the pricking,
>> thus tethering the pricking in place. You will have cover cloths over the
>> areas (yes?) so that nothing will catch on the tethering threads.
>>
>
>
>


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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[lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread Janice Blair
When I take a pricking off the pillow, I fold the contact behind the pricking.  
It may have some lint off the pillow on that part and does not seen to stick 
firmly so it can be unfolded and used again.
Janice


 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
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Re: [lace] IOLI conventions - lunch

2010-04-10 Thread Janice Blair
I have chaired an IOLI convention in Rockford where we managed to keep the cost 
of the Arachne lunch down to $20.  I did mention in my last email that the I am 
aware that the cost covers the room as well as food and service.  I am not 
attacking Portland as I appreciate how much hard work it is to put on a 
convention of this size and length.

I wrote to the next hosts asking them to try to keep the costs down, that is if 
they are planning on providing Arachne with a meeting place.  The Maryland 
guild did not have it on their agenda and are looking into it.  This is the 
second year we are charged $35 for lunch and I did not want it to be taken as a 
price that becomes the norm.  I also explained that all we required was a room, 
preferably with a podium for announcements.  We do not need a speaker like last 
year, because we just want to get together in an informal situation and get to 
know each other better.  Just the opportunity to put faces to names.  

LA would have been impossible to find a restaurant in close proximity of the 
hotel but we could find a lot less expensive food in their restaurants.  How do 
other Arachnes feel about costs for our get together?  Maybe this should go to 
Chat rather than take up more space on Lace.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: "lacel...@verizon.net" 
Unless you have chaired a large convention, and dealt with a large hotel, you 
probably don't realize what a meal costs in that environment.  Also realize 
that part of the price is the room cost, as well as the food and the service.  
Unless the group wishes to change the format of future Arachne meetings to a 
non-food event, or schedule it outside the hotel, expect the price to be 
similar in the future.You will not find a fast food price in a commercial 
hotel setting.


Alice in Oregon
Host guild member and Display chairman



Apr 9, 2010 06:36:23 PM, jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


>>
>>I also wrote to the 2011 and 2012 convention hosts asking them to try to keep 
>>the cost of the luncheon down, as I know some people did not attend last year 
>>because 
>>of the expense.  I think our numbers were down in 2009 because the California 
>>meals 
>>were so expensive.

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[lace] Re: Securing with larger plastic Contact

2010-04-10 Thread Janice Blair
My piece of plastic has been on the pillow since Sept/October last year and is 
still in place.  I have worked over a yard of lace on the pricking.  I have 
just found a problem on this round where the pricking had a quarter inch cut in 
it and it is catching the threads.  This was my fault for not being more 
careful when I cut it.  The nick in the plastic was probably from when I cut 
the previous piece off the roll.  I did not put any pins in it to hold it but 
have put plenty of holes in the inch edge from my divider pins.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org



- Original Message 
From: David C COLLYER 
To: Janice Blair ; lace 
Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 9:13:56 AM
Subject: Securing with larger plastic Contact


>  I cut my sticky plastic covering about an inch or so wider than the pricking 
> and place the pricking on the pillow, then lay the sticky plastic over the 
> top of it, securing the pricking to the pillow.

I really like the sound of this idea. But surely if it's a larger piece of 
Bucks/Toender/Chantilly etc, with hundreds of pins, and which will possibly 
need to stay in place for a few months, don't you find that the outer edge of 
the plastic loses its stickiness and comes adrift?

I think I would still put a few pins through it at first - just in case.

Thanks
David in Ballarat

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Fw: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread Sue Babbs

If you want to keep the pricking, just trim off the excess contact paper.

Or in the case of the stuff I buy from Walgreen's, you can just peel it off. 
A little of the inkjet ink comes too, but the pricking would still be 
useable.


Sue Babbs


- Original Message - 
From: "pene piip" 

I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.




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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] gold plated pins!

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER


The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for a
long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing.


Vivienne,
it's a luxurious idea, but I find my brass pins, many of which are 
about 15 years old and used over and over, have not tarnished at all.


Perhaps it is the constant use which prevents this.

David in Ballarat

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RE: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER

At 05:08 PM 10/04/2010, pene piip wrote:

Ulrike Voelker also showed those of us attending one of her workshops
that you can also cut the contact that you place over the pricking with
an extra 2 to 3 inches around the edge & then stick the contact to the
pricking & the pillow & you don't need any pins.
I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.


Surely you'd just trim off the extra plastic once you've finished.
David in Ballarat

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[lace] Securing with larger plastic Contact

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER
 I cut my sticky plastic covering about an inch or so wider than 
the pricking and place the pricking on the pillow, then lay the 
sticky plastic over the top of it, securing the pricking to the pillow.


I really like the sound of this idea. But surely if it's a larger 
piece of Bucks/Toender/Chantilly etc, with hundreds of pins, and 
which will possibly need to stay in place for a few months, don't you 
find that the outer edge of the plastic loses its stickiness and comes adrift?


I think I would still put a few pins through it at first - just in case.

Thanks
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Liz,


I fully understand what you are saying, but would not like to risk 
damage to one of the last pillows made with horse hair in Australia.

Thanks
David

I would like to share a method that I learned from Robin Lewis 
Wild.  It only works on a straw filled pillow and it does involve 
the sacrifice of some pins.  It also works best if the pins are 
long.  I have found that this method secures the pricking very 
firmly to the pillow and puts the pin heads so far in to the pillow 
that my threads never catch on them.  Let me see if I can describe it.


It requires two pins at each place you secure the pricking.  The 
first is pushed straight through the pricking and into the 
pillow.  Leave about half the pin sticking up out of the 
pillow.  Bend that end at a 90 degree angle (actually I usually bend 
the pin before I put it in the pillow).  So you now have a bent pin 
with half of it going through the pricking into the pillow and the 
upper half laying on top of the pillow.


The second pin is placed across the first pin at a 90 degree 
angle.  This pin will take a bite out of the pillow (be sure to 
catch the main part of the pillow and not just the covering), come 
up across the end of the bent pin and then go back into the pillow again.


This is probably a little hard to visualize.  I will be happy to try 
to take a picture of this if someone will talk me through how to get 
the photo into a place where everyone on arachne can see it.


Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA
 David C COLLYER  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> Another questions for your wonderful combination of minds.
>
> How do you secure your pricking to the pillow?

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER

Clay,
Ulrike Voelker also says .Instead, we should place a temporary 
pin off to the side, but toward you, so that the threads must come 
down in a straighter line before moving off to the side.


I have always done that. In fact I use a tall hat pin so that 7 or 8 
bobbin holders will still stay around it. I also worked out that this 
large pin should be at an angle of 45 degrees and about 1" (2.5cm) 
lower than the working area.


Personally I feel that the pricking would not buckle so much if it 
was a thin Manilla-type card, but as mine are always paper with 
Contact, this is often a problem. I feel it has something to do with 
large areas of point ground, rather than the areas of half or whole 
stitch, and may well be the angle of the pins in those areas.


David



Clay



On 4/9/2010 12:49 PM, Sue Babbs wrote:
Ulrike Loehr (I've forgotten her married name) cuts her blue 
plastic film bigger than the pricking and uses that to secure the 
pricking to the pillow. I don't find that this works well if you 
have a piece on the pillow for a long time, but then you can pin 
through the film only, and this pin tends to press in below the 
level of the pricking


Sue Babbs
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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER

At 02:49 AM 10/04/2010, Sue Babbs wrote:
Ulrike Loehr (I've forgotten her married name) cuts her blue plastic 
film bigger than the pricking and uses that to secure the pricking 
to the pillow. I don't find that this works well if you have a piece 
on the pillow for a long time, but then you can pin through the film 
only, and this pin tends to press in below the level of the pricking


Now that's an idea I haven't tried, and it sounds like it might work for me.
Thanks
David

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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,
I should have said when I first wrote this question, that my pricking 
are always photocopies or scans covered in Contact. As such, threads 
like these would not hold, or would tear the pricking.


Thanks
David in Ballarat


sew
long loops of thread into the pricking at strategic points (e.g. where you
would normally pin), and pin the loops tight 'way back from the pricking,
thus tethering the pricking in place. You will have cover cloths over the
areas (yes?) so that nothing will catch on the tethering threads.


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[lace] Fw: Malcolm Fielding's online bobbin shop is now open again

2010-04-10 Thread Sue Babbs
Malcolm Fielding's online bobbin shop is now open again!I have just received
the following email from Malcolm Fielding, who makes the most exquisite,
turned bobbins I have ever felt!  In case someone else is interested, I
thought I would forward this to the list. I am just a pleased customer of his,
with no other connection to him (other than that we are both English living in
foreign countries!)

Sue Babbs
- Original Message -
From: m...@indie-cds.com
To: sueba...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:25 PM
Subject: Malcolm Fielding's online bobbin shop is now open again



  Hello to all my customers!

  I am pleased to announce that my lace bobbins are back in production and
I have a newly updated and re-designed website at www.thelacebobbinshop.com
where you can see and order them all.

  - visit http://www.thelacebobbinshop.com Please visit the website and
take a look! I think you will find the site easier to use and more functional.

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Re: [lace] gold plated pins!

2010-04-10 Thread Sue

Vivienne,
My pins are used all the time and bend and get replaced before they become 
unusable through tarnishing.
I have been using these kind since 2001 and when they became hard to get at 
one time I bought some silver type I have two pots of those and have never 
bothered to use them!!!  no I dont know why either, except that I felt they 
might get confused with my dress making pins.
Personally I dont do many really bit pieces, the strip work and smaller 
pieces I keep pins in for about 1 to 3 inches depending on the width of the 
piece making sure it is secure but not overdone so I am not forever buying 
pins.

Sue T



Hi all, I would like your views. Though I am a supplier this is not
promoting any thing I sell but I think Lace makers need to express an 
opinion  on.

The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for a
long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing. they tell me they are
specially treated but that they know in, their words, 6 months 2 years 5 
years

they will not be the same. So they are proposing the make a gold plated
pin  which they claim will stay bright and untarnished for years and 
years.
They say  but are not fixed on it yet, the price would be similar to say 
our
Torchon pin  but you would get say 250 as opposed to 400. I have told them 
I

don't think  British lace makers would pay the differance. But then I
thought of the ladies  who have to replace their pins so now I don't know. 
They
are a good kind family  companya and I don't want them to waste money on 
some

thing that won't sell.  What do you think? Vivienne


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[lace] gold plated pins!

2010-04-10 Thread VivienneWalton
Hi all, I would like your views. Though I am a supplier this is not  
promoting any thing I sell but I think Lace makers need to express an opinion  
on. 
The people who make many of the pins in the world have been looking for a  
long time at the problem of brass pins tarnishing. they tell me they are  
specially treated but that they know in, their words, 6 months 2 years 5 years 
 they will not be the same. So they are proposing the make a gold plated 
pin  which they claim will stay bright and untarnished for years and years. 
They say  but are not fixed on it yet, the price would be similar to say our 
Torchon pin  but you would get say 250 as opposed to 400. I have told them I 
don't think  British lace makers would pay the differance. But then I 
thought of the ladies  who have to replace their pins so now I don't know. They 
are a good kind family  companya and I don't want them to waste money on some 
thing that won't sell.  What do you think? Vivienne

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Re: [lace] IOLI conventions - lunch

2010-04-10 Thread lacelady
 Unless you have chaired a large convention, and dealt with a large
hotel, you probably don't realize what a meal costs in that environment. 
Also realize that part of the price is the room cost, as well as the food
and the service.  Unless the group wishes to change the format of future
Arachne meetings to a non-food event, or schedule it outside the hotel,
expect the price to be similar in the future.You will not find a fast
food price in a commercial hotel setting.

Also, most people don't realize that the hotel negotiates a package deal
for a convention.  If there is a certain volume of food contracts, and
bedroom rental, then the classrooms come with it without a separate
rental fee.  If the hotel does not receive that volume of income from
food and bedrooms, then classrooms must be paid separately.  With the
IOLI convention format, we need lots and lots of classrooms because our
classes are small.  This year we will have 27 teachers.  That's a lot of
rooms...especially if a room rent in applied.  Thankfully, we have enough
food scheduled that it should not be a problem this time.  And with the
nice number of people registered to attend, we hopefully will also meet
the hotel's desired bedroom rental quantity.

There's still room in many of the classes, and room in the hotel, if you
want to attend and haven't registered yet.  I'm looking forward to both
the Arachne lunch and the OIDFA meeting.  This is the first time I know
of that we've had an OIDFA meeting. 

Alice in Oregon
Host guild member and Display chairman

Apr 9, 2010 06:36:23 PM, jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  >Like others, I am looking forwarding to hearing what classes I got
  for this summer
  >and also to meeting other Arachne at the lunch. I picked up a cute
  raffle prize
  >for the lunch last week. You will have to attend to see what it is
  ;-}
  >
  >I also wrote to the 2011 and 2012 convention hosts asking them to
  try to keep
  >the cost of the luncheon down, as I know some people did not attend
  last year because
  >of the expense. I think our numbers were down in 2009 because the
  California meals
  >were so expensive.

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RE: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread pene piip

Ulrike Voelker also showed those of us attending one of her workshops
that you can also cut the contact that you place over the pricking with
an extra 2 to 3 inches around the edge & then stick the contact to the
pricking & the pillow & you don't need any pins.
I have a problem with that because what do you do when you take the
pricking off the pillow, the contact then sticks to anything underneath.
I suppose then you'd have to develop a filing system for your prickings.

Pene in Tartu, Estonia
where she is in a lace designing mode.

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