[lace] Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit
Spanier Arbeit has not much to do with bobbin lace. Ill try to explain (having learned it some 15 or so years ago), but give you as well a link to a pdf where you will find good fotos. You work on a bolster pillow on a tape lace-like pattern. While working, two ticker cotton threads follow the outline of the tape. A flat wire is wound around both cotton threads and fixed with one metallic thread on each side. You simply turn two or four times on each side, then wound again the flat metal wire around both. Here is the link: http://members.aon.at/rosamichl/Anleitung_Lam_technik.pdf The homepage to it is: http://members.aon.at/rosamichl/page_1_1.html You will see that this kind of work was/is used for traditional hats in southern Germany and Swizzerland. Mrs Selb explains, that the technique was a well kept secret. There was only one woman in her area who was able to make it. She took about 360 hours for one cap. Gabriele -Original Message- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:13:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit From: "Lorelei Halley" To: Avital Interesting. Where are these illustrations 2 and 3? I looked at your flickr photos, but can't see the actual thing being made, so I can't see the structure. The article's description of the pillow sounded like a Spanish bobbin lace pillow, but your illustration doesn't look at all like one. Lace before 1400 would have been knotted square netting (fisherman's net), on a small scale, embroidered. I don't know anything about the dating for Chebka (Tunisian needlelace) or puncetto or oya. I don't know if they are older than punto in aria. http://lacenews.net/?s=Chebka Laurie Waters' article. Lorelei - Original Message - From: "Avital" To: "Arachne.com" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:37 PM Subject: [lace] Spanier arbeit > Dear spiders, > > I received an email from someone in NY who wanted to know whether I > knew of anyone who makes Spanier arbeit today. Here's an article, if > you're not sure what it is: > > http://www.thejewishpress.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=17496 > > The person who emailed me contacted David Farkas, mentioned in the > article, but he wasn't interested in helping him. I was approached > because he found this photo I took in the Israel Museum: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5076972597/in/photostream/ > > Best wishes, > > Avital > > -- > > Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit
I'm sorry, Lorelei, but I'm confused. What are Illustrations 2 and 3? I don't know anything about the article except what is written there. The pillow basically a bolster pillow. Spanier arbeit is closest to braid or tape laces. The braid is 4 warp strands (like 2 pairs of passives) made of soft cord. The weft or single worker appears to be a thin ribbon of silver. The structure is cloth stitch, except that it appears to be formed by weaving, not by the cross/twist motions of bobbin lace. I didn't get a good look at the part with the pins but it appears to be worked over a pricking or pattern that looks like a tape lace pattern. The braid is held in place by bobbin lace ground or sewings. I'm not sure because I didn't get a good look and I was trying to be inconspicuous when taking these photos (photography isn't permitted in this museum for copyright reasons). http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5076972597/ Here's a link to an enlargement of a finished atarah (collar of a tallit or prayer shawl) but the work is so dense that it's nearly impossible to make out the structure: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5077567724/sizes/o/in/set-72157625028964553/ The person who got in touch with me, Arthur Miller of Brooklyn NY, has a commercial interest. I told him he would probably have to open a sweatshop if he hoped to make a profit from this kind of work. He asked me how long it would take to make a panel 5.5 x 30 inches. That's quite a sizeable piece of work, unless one is working with a very coarse materials or a manufactured braid. Avital On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Lorelei Halley wrote: > Avital > Interesting. Where are these illustrations 2 and 3? I looked at your > flickr photos, but can't see the actual thing being made, so I can't see the > structure. The article's description of the pillow sounded like a Spanish > bobbin lace pillow, but your illustration doesn't look at all like one. Lace > before 1400 would have been knotted square netting (fisherman's net), on a > small scale, embroidered. I don't know anything about the dating for Chebka > (Tunisian needlelace) or puncetto or oya. I don't know if they are older > than punto in aria. > > http://lacenews.net/?s=Chebka Laurie Waters' article. > > Lorelei > > - Original Message - From: "Avital" > To: "Arachne.com" > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:37 PM > Subject: [lace] Spanier arbeit > > >> Dear spiders, >> >> I received an email from someone in NY who wanted to know whether I >> knew of anyone who makes Spanier arbeit today. Here's an article, if >> you're not sure what it is: >> >> http://www.thejewishpress.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=17496 >> >> The person who emailed me contacted David Farkas, mentioned in the >> article, but he wasn't interested in helping him. I was approached >> because he found this photo I took in the Israel Museum: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5076972597/in/photostream/ >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Avital -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] What would you do?
She probably has a point, but that would vary by locality. In Texas if someone damages my $5 item the court doesn't care that it was worth $5, they care that it was my item. I imagine it would matter if the damage was intentional or accidental. Intentional is criminal, accidental is a civil matter. You can get lackadaisical police who don't want to press charges anywhere. In that case in most cases one can swear out a warrant, sometimes for a small fee. In Texas that's around $15.I once did that back in New York when a housemate had become dangerous and the police didn't want to act. I took him to court and got an order of protection and out went the housemate. I think that often people just don't want to be bothered to go through the process. Swearing out a warrant is the least of it; you also have to come to court, often multiple times. Yours, Villandra Thorsdottir Austin, Texas - Original Message - From: To: "Jean Nathan" Cc: <> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [lace] What would you do? As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that the 'crimes' we're discussing are on the very border between criminal behavior and rudeness. There is no crime anywhere of criminal rudeness, or criminal lack of manners. When one approaches this line, in Carol's case, where no one is really hurt, things aren't damaged very much, nothing is taken that can be proved, the police are reticent in pressing charges unless the putative defendant is a character well known to them. Once a possible reason for the damage is pure accident, the likelihood of getting a conviction drops through the basement, and the inevitable happens. A police officer is not going to be convinced by broken threads. We would be, and clearly Carol's emotional damage is deplorable, as she didn't even try to untangle for months. Shouldn't happen, but it does. Sad. No deliverance from evil on that day, no peace. As for the destruction of the vases, I am not a British barrister, but an American criminal defense attorney. In America, if the prosecution cannot prove at least criminal recklessness, (which is a disregard for the substantial likelihood that the damage will happen) beyond a reasonable doubt, they won't win. Period. Here, the man tripped over his own shoelaces. An accident, not a crime. As for a civil case, I'm not as sure, as I don't practice civil law, but I think that they have to prove the defendant breached a duty of care. Tripping over shoelaces probably won't do it. Accidents do happen without fault. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where the snow isn't melting fast enough, but it is melting, and no more snow is predicted. -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan Sent: Feb 13, 2011 12:45 PM To: Lace Subject: [lace] What would you do? Liz wrote about the man who broke the vases: "The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's grapevine." Yorkshire Post 8th August 2006: "Mr Flynn, of Fowlmere, Cambs, was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage in April. But in June police said he would not be charged with any offence." Jean in Poole, Dorset. UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] history/anthropology
Katrina I can't disagree with your definition of anthropology. But your definition of history fits history as it was done 60+ years ago and earlier. I started graduate school in 1971 and there was beginning a new approach. (The dinosours kept slogging along in the old way.) Every generation redefines what doing history means. Now history in general is more often concerned with the "conditions of life", how economic systems worked, how legal systems worked. A discussion of the political ties of one Roman patrician family isn't really about individuals but about how the whole political system worked. I suppose you could say that doing history is becoming more anthropological. It isn't about kings anymore. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] What would you do?
As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that the 'crimes' we're discussing are on the very border between criminal behavior and rudeness. There is no crime anywhere of criminal rudeness, or criminal lack of manners. When one approaches this line, in Carol's case, where no one is really hurt, things aren't damaged very much, nothing is taken that can be proved, the police are reticent in pressing charges unless the putative defendant is a character well known to them. Once a possible reason for the damage is pure accident, the likelihood of getting a conviction drops through the basement, and the inevitable happens. A police officer is not going to be convinced by broken threads. We would be, and clearly Carol's emotional damage is deplorable, as she didn't even try to untangle for months. Shouldn't happen, but it does. Sad. No deliverance from evil on that day, no peace. As for the destruction of the vases, I am not a British barrister, but an American criminal defense attorney. In America, if the prosecution cannot prove at least criminal recklessness, (which is a disregard for the substantial likelihood that the damage will happen) beyond a reasonable doubt, they won't win. Period. Here, the man tripped over his own shoelaces. An accident, not a crime. As for a civil case, I'm not as sure, as I don't practice civil law, but I think that they have to prove the defendant breached a duty of care. Tripping over shoelaces probably won't do it. Accidents do happen without fault. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where the snow isn't melting fast enough, but it is melting, and no more snow is predicted. -Original Message- >From: Jean Nathan >Sent: Feb 13, 2011 12:45 PM >To: Lace >Subject: [lace] What would you do? > >Liz wrote about the man who broke the vases: > >"The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was >prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's >grapevine." > >Yorkshire Post 8th August 2006: > >"Mr Flynn, of Fowlmere, Cambs, was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal >damage in April. But in June police said he would not be charged with any >offence." > >Jean in Poole, Dorset. UK > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: >http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] What would you do?
I always thought that it was a silly place to put the vase, it was on a ledge on the stairway and not protected by anything at all to stop it falling or being knocked off which it subsequently was. I believe it was a very valuable Chinese Vase. I remember the episode well, as they must have cameras that picked up the man falling on the stairs, it was reported on tv at the time. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Docents
A docent is a volunteer, usually at a museum, historical site, nature park, etc... They usually do public interface work rather than behind the scenes support work. I spent a lot of time as a "living history" docent at a local historic site before being hired as interpretive staff. Katrina Worley kwor...@mac.com -- History: special people in special places at special times Anthropology: everyone else the rest of the time. K.Worley, 1997 On Feb 13, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Sue Fink wrote: > I have now seen the word 'docents' on Arachne a few times and I am ashamed > to say I haven't a clue what it means!! Could someone explain? > > > > Sue Fink, > > Masterton, New Zealand > > Where it is still lovely hot summer > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Docents
I have now seen the word 'docents' on Arachne a few times and I am ashamed to say I haven't a clue what it means!! Could someone explain? Sue Fink, Masterton, New Zealand Where it is still lovely hot summer - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] snuggling on the beach
How wonderfulbut she must have smelled very fishy after all that! Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Agnes Boddington Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:14 PM To: Agnes Boddington Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] snuggling on the beach http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/23157786/269087697/name/SNUGGLING_ON_THE_BEACH. wmv You haev to watch this. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit
Avital Interesting. Where are these illustrations 2 and 3? I looked at your flickr photos, but can't see the actual thing being made, so I can't see the structure. The article's description of the pillow sounded like a Spanish bobbin lace pillow, but your illustration doesn't look at all like one. Lace before 1400 would have been knotted square netting (fisherman's net), on a small scale, embroidered. I don't know anything about the dating for Chebka (Tunisian needlelace) or puncetto or oya. I don't know if they are older than punto in aria. http://lacenews.net/?s=Chebka Laurie Waters' article. Lorelei - Original Message - From: "Avital" To: "Arachne.com" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:37 PM Subject: [lace] Spanier arbeit Dear spiders, I received an email from someone in NY who wanted to know whether I knew of anyone who makes Spanier arbeit today. Here's an article, if you're not sure what it is: http://www.thejewishpress.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=17496 The person who emailed me contacted David Farkas, mentioned in the article, but he wasn't interested in helping him. I was approached because he found this photo I took in the Israel Museum: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5076972597/in/photostream/ Best wishes, Avital -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] What would you do?
Or they concluded it was just an accident I suppose. Not something that seems to be acceptable in this day and age though. Claire Kent, UK Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. On 13 Feb 2011, at 19:54, vilan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > EIther no evidence, could be noone saw who did it, even though everyone knew > who did it. Or could be the man was considered looney. > > Yours, > Villandra Thorsdottir > Austin, Texas > - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" > > To: "Lace" > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:45 AM > Subject: [lace] What would you do? > > >> Liz wrote about the man who broke the vases: >> >> "The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was >> prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's >> grapevine." - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] What would you do?
EIther no evidence, could be noone saw who did it, even though everyone knew who did it. Or could be the man was considered looney. Yours, Villandra Thorsdottir Austin, Texas - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" To: "Lace" Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: [lace] What would you do? Liz wrote about the man who broke the vases: "The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's grapevine." Yorkshire Post 8th August 2006: "Mr Flynn, of Fowlmere, Cambs, was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage in April. But in June police said he would not be charged with any offence." Jean in Poole, Dorset. UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit
Ita Aber, author of the article in question, also produced a DVD that pretty much rounds up all the information available about Spanier Arbit, including showing someone doing it at the Israel Museum. This DVD was available from the Pomegranate Guild of Judaic Needlework _http://www.pomegranateguild.org/_ (http://www.pomegranateguild.org/) Perhaps if they were contacted they could not only sell the DVD, but put the individual in touch with Ms. Aber who founded the Pomegranate Guild and she could provide the most up to date information about Spanier Arbit. It does seem to be a craft that is in danger of dying out. The DVD was produced in the hope that it might stimulate interest in the craft world to prevent that from happening. In it Ms. Aber holds up various no-doubt hard to find books that have information about the craft. I don't know whether a very motivated person with a lot of textile expertise could take all this information and manage to learn how to do it, or not. I think that most likely the best course might be to contact the Israel Museum to find out who had demonstrated the craft on the DVD. Devon In a message dated 2/13/2011 12:38:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, spind...@gmail.com writes: Dear spiders, I received an email from someone in NY who wanted to know whether I knew of anyone who makes Spanier arbeit today. Here's an article, if you're not sure what it is: http://www.thejewishpress.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=17496 The person who emailed me contacted David Farkas, mentioned in the article, but he wasn't interested in helping him. I was approached because he found this photo I took in the Israel Museum: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/5076972597/in/photostream/ Best wishes, Avital -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] What would you do?
Liz wrote about the man who broke the vases: "The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's grapevine." Yorkshire Post 8th August 2006: "Mr Flynn, of Fowlmere, Cambs, was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage in April. But in June police said he would not be charged with any offence." Jean in Poole, Dorset. UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] snuggling on the beach
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/23157786/269087697/name/SNUGGLING_ON_THE_BEACH.wmv You haev to watch this. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] APOLOGY FOR OMG! did you block me on Yahoo?
DO NOT OPEN THIS EMAIL!! I must apologize to everyone on Arachne, I received the subject email from a relative so thought it was safe to open, it wasn't. The message hijacked my address book and keeps sending out emails with the "OMG" message. I was only recently made aware of the problem when a friend let me know about the problem. Again, please accept my apologies for any problems this may cause. Helene UlrichSurfside Beach, SC 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: What would YOU do?
So sorry to read about this happening to you, and for that matter any lacemaker who has had similar experiences. I haven't yet had the incident happen to me(crossing fingers and saying a prayer). But my time may come that I may have reacted just as you calmly have. In a public place and especially an event like this you can either make a spectacle of yourself and rant and rave at the mother and child and repremand what they have done, or as you did, just take a few breaths to calm your blood pressure and pick things up. I would have done the latter, but at the same time muttering to myself aweful things. I try to keep my composure while out in public demonstrating. Here is one thing that my BL teacher(may she rest in peace) always did at demonstrations. Her display was in a heritage tent and she would rope off the area with the displays a few feet from the public's hands, yet still close enough to see the samples. She too would be sitting behind the rope(sometimes, other times she would be outside for a more hands on demo) so it is a marker stating that "no one can come behind the rope". When she demos her piece that she is working on is always in front of her. When she has to show someone how to work the bobbins, she would put her work in progress behind the rope area. I inherited her tent, but I don't display it like she did. I just do my own thing that works for me. I sit in the front corner with pillow on lap or stand and display table is inside the tent for those that want to venture in for more detailed looks. Yes they do touch, but I encourage that sometimes(except when they have food on their hands), because I know what that is like. I have always been a hands-on person and have to touch everything of interest to me. I still am a kid at heart!! ;) When I am not at my pillow I do set it away from onlookers while I go teach someone or show something in more detail(like how to tat or explain further about the lace). My pillow is rarely a foot away from me. None of the pieces I have on display are that precious that I would be going "nutzoid" over. Still would mutter to myself if anything horrible would happen. Now I don't know what type of display or set up you usually have at these events. But having a roped off section might deter some of these uncouth people that have no regard for another artist's work. I hope you can get it all sorted out. Hope I never have the opportunity to experience this. So far in my demonstrating area, I don't have well season lacemakers who think they can come up to another's pillow and start playing! Most of the patrons think I am tatting(which I always have with me) :-D Mark, aka Tatman in a sunny and FINALLY warming up to 40 degrees, Greenville, IL USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] What Would YOU do?
This topic has still got my husband insensed by the women's behaviour. He is head of security at one of the museums in Oxford and wanted to share this particular tale with you of something that happened recently. They have a very beautiful, simple chair in one of the collections. It dates from the mid 17th Century and has a woven rush seat. All over the chair are signs saying 'do not sit' and 'please don't touch'. They were watching the collections from the CCTV room and saw a woman pick up her young child and put the child onto the chair to sit down. By the time they had rushed one of the security guards down (and it's not their job to prevent touching that's what the docents do) the seat was broken through and the chair damaged. The woman could not or would not accept a part in what had happened. The whole of the seat had to be removed and replaced from scratch. Hubby says that this unneccesary restoration took that particular department over 70 hours of work - put in a minimum cost of £15 an hour for the labour alone the damage was over £1,000. I think the biggest story of this type comes from 2006 and the rival musuem in Cambrige to hubbys. The Fitzwilliam. If any of you missed the story then there is a link to the BBC website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4708494.stm The guy was charged with criminal damage but I can't find out if he was prosecuted or convicted and hubby can't find out from the musuem's grapevine. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Finishing off traditionally and cutting yardage?
On my first piece of lace the teacher told me to cut the bobbins off after I sewed and knotted each pair about 3 inches from the knots. Then to roll the dangly bits of thread together and over sew them. I'd spent months making a beautiful piece of extremely fine torchon only to completely ruin it in the finish. It is possible to do a VERY neat, VERY strong and nearly invisible join by this method, but it is nowhere as simplistic as your teacher made it sound. To begin the lace, select a starting along the edge of cloth stitch blocks (half stitch at a pinch) as far as possible, and zig zag the start line if possible so your eye isn't able to focus on a long straight row. The oversewing doesn't work as well in ground, there I'd darn the ends back as you do now. Next I'd make sure I did the sewings into the starting loop of the thread, as distinct from the pinhole next to that loop, it gives a better look anyway even if you're not oversewing, but many people do the latter. When I cut them off, I leave the ends a lot longer than 3" as it makes them easier to handle. Eight or ten inches at the very least. A thread at the start of each block needs to be long enough to do the sewing, so it's easier to leave them all plenty long enough. Now to do the oversewing. You will treat each block as a separate unit. Use as fine a needle as you can thread with the lace thread. A blunt one will pass between/under threads without splitting them. Thread the needle with one of the two threads at the corner of the block where you are starting, and following the dips and curves of the edge as it goes from pin hole to pin hole, oversew the other thread to the back of the lace (only pick up the thread as it passes behind another - put your needle in place and turn the lace over; you shouldn't be ble to see the needle) with just two stitches, under one thread only each time. The first stitch takes it sideways away from the pin, the next up/down to the next pinhole. Now you will add two threads into the bundle. Before you do, cut the first thread in half so you know which one it is. Twist the three threads together, and oversew them with another couple of stitches to the next pinhole. Now, cut out the short thread next to the last stitch, and halve the remaining two threads. Add another two, twist all four together and proceed to the next hole. Continue in this way, each time cutting out the shortened threads and shortening the other two before twisting in the new ones. When you have included the last two, and run out of edge, turn the corner and continue down the next side of the block. Do the next two stitches and cut out the shortened ends, do another two and remove the last two ends, then do another stitch before running the end back up through just a couple of the stitches you made. Although it seems very complicated, once you get started it is not too difficult to do. The thing to understand is that the edges of a shape in lace are not straight lines, but a series of curves from pin to pin; so long as the little cord follows this edge and is hidden by it, it will not show at all from the right side. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
