Re: [lace] pattern and thread size

2011-08-11 Thread Sue

Thank you Brenda and Jane,
I just printed it off bigger, following your suggestions.  As it was a 
pretty small piece, the larger print still looks like it will work and comes 
up a bit like a large church window which was what I was looking for and I 
think will still fit inside one of those cards with a circular appeture.


I do have Edition 5, but my old maths skills have sadly deserted me, so 
thank you both for coming to my assistance, g.
Brenda, When you talk about the grid size between footedge and grid, I 
understand perfectly on a straight piece, how do I go about checking that on 
a bucks circular pattern?  Looking at this I can see along the diagonal 
(which I am guessing is the grid, and straight across the piece which has a 
slightly wider gape.  Obviously with the different angle of bucks verses the 
torchon examples in the book, its not so obvious to my poor little tired 
brain, g.

Many thanks,
Sue t
Dorset UK


Hi Sue

If you have one of the later editions of Threads for Lace have a look at the 
thread wraps per space - page 8 in Ed5.


The finer the thread the more leeway you have in the number of wraps/cm you 
have, but.
for a Bucks (point ground) pattern using a 58 w/cm thread (slightly finer 
than Brok 100/2) the ideal space between footedge pinholes is 1.8mm.
For a 40 w/cm thread (slightly finer than Egyptian 60/2) it's 2.5mm  which 
is quite a bit bigger.


100% / 1.8 x 2.5 = 138.88  so you need to increase your pattern by 139% 
which is a lot.   A4 - A3 increase is 141% which is only marginally bigger.


Brenda

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Re: [lace] pattern and thread size

2011-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sue

The various working angles of different Bucks patterns doesn't make a huge 
difference to the size of thread needed.  A rule of thumb is that if you make a 
winding of 10 wraps it should fit snugly between two adjacent pinholes along 
the footedge (or two vertical pinholes within ground) for point grounds and a 
winding of 12 wraps should fit between two footedge pinholes for torchon if the 
thread is the right thickness.

Is your pattern drawn over a straight grid? - so that you have to add and 
subtract pairs to get the circular shape.  The diamond shape of four adjacent 
ground pinholes will be the same shape and size throughout the design.  Or is 
it drawn over a logarithmic/computer generated grid which means that one group 
of four pinholes is a different shape/size to another group of four pinholes?

If your pattern is of the latter type (any sort of lace) you just have to 
compromise and use a thread size to fit the average density of the pricking 
and/or go for the thickest that you can squash into the tightest/densest parts 
without it puckering up.  I was told ages ago that the word used by the old 
Bucks lacemakers for this puckering/wrinkling was twippering.

Brenda

On 11 Aug 2011, at 10:19, Sue wrote:

 When you talk about the grid size between footedge and grid, I understand 
 perfectly on a straight piece, how do I go about checking that on a bucks 
 circular pattern?  Looking at this I can see along the diagonal (which I am 
 guessing is the grid, and straight across the piece which has a slightly 
 wider gape. Obviously with the different angle of bucks verses the torchon 
 examples in the book, its not so obvious to my poor little tired brain,

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Valentino couture

2011-08-11 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Thanks for the link Susan.

Via the website I also found some youtube videos of a French documentary re
one season Karl Lagerfeld Chanel haute couture collection (2005, I think)
from first sketches to the show. Focuses on the ateliers, seamstresses,
embroiderers, shoe makers, braid-maker (amazing woman) etc etc. It's
absolutely fantastic!! Search for signe chanel on youtube.

Thanks again,

Jen in Melbourne, Australia.
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Re: [lace] Valentino couture

2011-08-11 Thread hottleco
Thanks for the update Jen!  I'm sure you are aware of Coco's famous line that 
lace is one of the prettiest imitations...of the fantasy of nature.  Susan 
Hottle, Erie, PA USA
   
 Jennifer Audsley auds...@gmail.com wrote: 
Via the website I also found some youtube videos of a French documentary re
one season Karl Lagerfeld Chanel haute couture collection (2005, I think)
from first sketches to the show. Focuses on the ateliers, seamstresses,
embroiderers, shoe makers, braid-maker (amazing woman) etc etc. It's
absolutely fantastic!! Search for signe chanel on youtube.

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RE: [lace] Grafting help

2011-08-11 Thread Sue
Welcome back David, look forward to seeing more of your poppies now you are
back home.

Sue M Harvey

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[lace] Coco Chanel Quote

2011-08-11 Thread Jeriames
Dear Susan,
 
An expanded version of the Coco Chanel quote has been on the front of  
Lacemakers of Maine's handout for 15 plus years.  We believe if you give  
someone a piece of paper, you should give them a reason to keep it.  The  
handout 
was so carefully written that it is still current, except for a  contact 
e-mail address, which we pen in.
 
Our handout is a white 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper, folded in half.   That 
gives 4 sides for a lace message.  Inside the fold is a list called  Care 
of Lace and on the facing side we tell about Lacemakers of Maine - a  
description of the group, list of lace techniques, list of places we have  
demonstrated, and contact information.  The back page has information about  
IOLI 
and Arachne.  Yes!  We have been telling people about Arachne for  a long 
time.
 
We individually pick up the costs of our little group.  No dues, no  
officers (all are equal), no complicated obligations for already busy  people.  
Might not work for larger groups, but we are a very small circle  of lace 
loving women who host meetings in private homes.  Works for  us.  Suggest it 
for 
the very small isolated lace groups that would be  possible throughout 
large countries like the U.S., Canada and  Australia.
 
What we lack is experienced teachers.  We rely on Tess a lot.
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 8/11/2011 7:10:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
hottl...@neo.rr.com writes:

Thanks  for the update Jen!  I'm sure you are aware of Coco's famous line 
that  lace is one of the prettiest imitations...of the fantasy of nature.   
Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] Lacemaking in Tignes

2011-08-11 Thread Lynne Cumming
I've just spent a week high in the French Alps and was lucky enough to come
across a French lacemaker demonstrating at a Mountain Festival in Tignes.
Unfortunately my French has been hard hit by spending time in Austria
attempting to use German and the lady had little English but I hope she
understood that I was a fellow lacemaker. She assured me that the gorgeous
chunky bobbins she was working with were specific to Tignes as well as the
hooped pillows she was working on. There was also an exhibition on the
development of Tignes as a ski resort due to the downturns of the late C19th
and early C20th when the population headed away from the high valleys and
farming and other industries such as lacemaking. I was delighted to see a
picture of the 'dentellieres' and have included it in my slideshow of the
lacemaker and her pillows and bobbins on webshots. Please see the link to
have a little look. 

I won't bore you with the alpine flowers, the wonderful views, the videos of
the cows parading up the street and the folkdancers - let alone the high
divers jumping from a helicopter into an icy lake! However, in due course
those may well make it to another album.

Enjoy!

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/slideshow/580711262bzJKdr

Lynne

Lynne Cumming, back in cold, wet Baldock, North Herts UK

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Tignes

2011-08-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
Thanks Lynne, for sharing the photos!  What a nice thing to see on your 
holiday.  I love those bobbins!  I have a few of them - old ones found 
on eBay - and I think it would be fun to work with them in the way they 
were designed to be used.


Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA  USA

On 8/11/2011 10:00 AM, Lynne Cumming wrote:

I've just spent a week high in the French Alps /snip/

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/slideshow/580711262bzJKdr

Lynne

Lynne Cumming, back in cold, wet Baldock, North Herts UK



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Re: [lace] Very smart at making mudjas

2011-08-11 Thread lynrbailey
Grandma crocheted, and Mother only made 3 sweaters for me when I was little, so 
my sock pattern comes from a leaflet.  The only change I've made is to use 5 
needles instead of 4, but I have resisted all other attempts to modernize me.  
I let the yarn, computer generated, hand dyed, whatever, be the magic.  They're 
a great size for the purse, pickup work, plain and ordinary, no need to carry 
the instructions around, and I get a lot of colorful socks to wear with my 
Birks.  All plain and sedate until you get to the toes.  To relate this to 
lace, the lacy ones are on other needles, and even with an easy pattern, I 
haven't hit turning the heel in 4 years on the first sock.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it is a perfect summer day, cool, 
66F, 22C at 10:40 a.m.brilliant sun, slight breeze.  If I finish my work in 
time, it's tea under the deck with a lace pillow or knitting my new PURPLE 
sweater.  Last week was nonstop lace, wonderful time, learned heaps, vacation 
has 2 lace pillows and 3 lace projects packed, so knitting a bit this week is 
ok.  


-Original Message-
From: David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au
Sent: Aug 10, 2011 9:19 PM
To: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net, bev walker 
walker.b...@gmail.com
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Very smart at making mudjas

Dear Clay,

Yes, David...  the term is kitchener stitch.  It solve that problem 
at the end of the sock.

It's not your Gran's sock world any more!

I know there are heaps and heaps of varieties of sock patterns, but 
I'm afraid I'll always knit Granny's 'cos she taught me, and I love 
them. Just need to get the by toe right!!
thanks
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Tignes

2011-08-11 Thread sof
Hello Lynne,

Thank you for the photos. Yes, bobins, pillow and pricking on your 
photos are specific of Tignes.

Have a look : http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/International/TIGNESFr.html


There is a lacemaker group near Tignes. Sometimes they come on 
lacemeeting : Have a look to pictures 1 and 2 : 
http://www.lesdiversespassionsdejosi.com/article-les-clubs-exposants-au-couvige-de-crolles-69928802.html
and here :
http://www.dentellieres.com/Reportage/R2008/Saint-etienne-du-bois/StEtienneduBois2.htm

Dentelez bien

Sof in France


Le 11/08/2011 16:00, Lynne Cumming a écrit :
 I've just spent a week high in the French Alps and was lucky enough to come
 across a French lacemaker demonstrating at a Mountain Festival in Tignes.
 Unfortunately my French has been hard hit by spending time in Austria
 attempting to use German and the lady had little English but I hope she
 understood that I was a fellow lacemaker. She assured me that the gorgeous
 chunky bobbins she was working with were specific to Tignes as well as the
 hooped pillows she was working on. There was also an exhibition on the
 development of Tignes as a ski resort due to the downturns of the late C19th
 and early C20th when the population headed away from the high valleys and
 farming and other industries such as lacemaking. I was delighted to see a
 picture of the 'dentellieres' and have included it in my slideshow of the
 lacemaker and her pillows and bobbins on webshots. Please see the link to
 have a little look.

 I won't bore you with the alpine flowers, the wonderful views, the videos of
 the cows parading up the street and the folkdancers - let alone the high
 divers jumping from a helicopter into an icy lake! However, in due course
 those may well make it to another album.

 Enjoy!

 http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/slideshow/580711262bzJKdr

 Lynne

 Lynne Cumming, back in cold, wet Baldock, North Herts UK

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[lace] Arachne lunch

2011-08-11 Thread Janice Blair
Apologies to Anita for getting her last name wrong.  I did know it was Hansen 
but my fingers work quicker than my brain.

Regards hair, I am the one front left next to Jeri and the spider in the 2003 
photo, with bright red hair.  I let it grow out in 2008 to see what it looked 
like, not enough grey yet for my liking.

BTW, it may have seemed like I was in charge at the lunch, but I was the one 
appointed by the convention hosts as they knew my name after I queried whether 
they had someone local who could be in charge.  I was handed the attendance 
list, but I was not involved with the choice of food.  The hosts told me they 
made no profit from the luncheon so I guess the hotel made out on the deal.  I 
think there was enough food this time but I would have preferred a coffee or 
tea 
with my meal.  If anyone on the list is involved in 2012 convention, please 
keep 
the costs down or give us a meal that equals the cost of the food and room.  
The 
staircase worked out well this year for the photo.  If anyone has pictures of 
past luncheons maybe they can post them on the same Arachne Personal page.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] conventions

2011-08-11 Thread L.Snyder

Hi there :-)
My enquiring mind wants to know...
What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these 
conventions?
I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for 
the fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it.

How about you?
Lauren

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Re: [lace] conventions

2011-08-11 Thread Kim Davis
I use some for the same purposes you do.  When I accumulate too many, I take
some down to a knitting shop locally.  There are woman that gather who do
not have any extra income, but love to have a bag to carry their knitting on
the bus!
Kim

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 Hi there :-)
 My enquiring mind wants to know...
 What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these
 conventions?
 I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for
 the fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it.
 How about you?
 Lauren

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Re: [lace] conventions

2011-08-11 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Lauren:

Just yesterday I noticed how many I had, too. 

I don't go to a lot of conventions, but you'd never realize it from the pile of 
bags. The best ones, the higher-quality cloth, etc, I might use out in public 
as general totes for library books and dancing shoes and so on. Some have 
zippers, too, which is really great here in Vancouver because you worry about 
the stuff in your tote getting rained on. But mostly I use them as project bags 
for knitting or quilting or sewing. You can get a lot of yarn into some of the 
bigger ones! Some of the smaller bags have tatting projects, or smaller bits of 
knitting. A really strong big bag might hold a pile of magazines.

If the contents aren't very heavy, you can also store your projects by looping 
the handles onto a clothes hanger and putting them in a closet.


Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


On 2011-08-11, at 1:31 PM, L.Snyder wrote:

 Hi there :-)
 My enquiring mind wants to know...
 What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these 
 conventions?
 I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for the 
 fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it.
 How about you?
 Lauren

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Re: [lace-chat] A wonderful story

2011-08-11 Thread Sue Babbs
It took me to a quick film of Teresa Dair body Knitting not Warsaw at 
all!! I guess the features must change from one day to the next!



Sue

sueba...@comcast.net
-Original Message- 
Dear Friends,

you will recall watching my sister Christine telling the story of my
grandfather some weeks ago. Well, here's another that's well worth
watching - about the ghetto in Warsaw.

http://www.abc.net.au/canberra/photos_videos/?ref=nav#feature


David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace-chat] A wonderful story

2011-08-11 Thread Sue Babbs

If you scroll down you can find David's recommendation



Sue


It took me to a quick film of Teresa Dair body Knitting not Warsaw at 
all!! I guess the features must change from one day to the next!



Sue

sueba...@comcast.net
-Original Message- 
Dear Friends,

you will recall watching my sister Christine telling the story of my
grandfather some weeks ago. Well, here's another that's well worth
watching - about the ghetto in Warsaw.

http://www.abc.net.au/canberra/photos_videos/?ref=nav#feature


David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] Postcards

2011-08-11 Thread pigscanfl...@ntlworld.com
Thank you to Sue, Mary and Ilske for the lovely postcards they sent me. Now the 
holiday is over and I have working internet connection again and I am almost 
caught up with myself and work I have got my postcards sorted and they have 
gone in the post today. I hope you enjoy them.

Lynne
in Baldock where it's warm and humid and about to pour with rain!

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