[lace] French roller pillow roller

2011-09-16 Thread lizkenr8
I need some suggestions from anyone willing to offer them!  I bought a used
bobbin lace pillow that is like a French roller pillow.  It has an outer frame
of wood with another inner box of wood that had a cone insert for
handkerchiefs, but no roller pillow.  The cone insert had it's own frame,
which is removable. There is a cushion rest on top of the pillow.  I would
like to make a roller to go in it and I have wool, but I'm not sure how
tightly the wool should be wound on the dowel.  The box frame looks like it is
home made, but seems to be well made.

Thanks!

Liz in Missouri, USA, where it has gotten chilly enough to make us think
autumn has arrived.

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Re: [lace] amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Marji Sakievich
Another suggestion is to never put the same amount of thread on each bobbin so
you don't run out at the same time.  This goes for larger projects but is a
good rule of thumb.




From: David C COLLYER

To: Ilse Depaepe ; Sue

Cc: Arachne 
Sent: Friday,
September 16, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] amounts of thread

> Dear Sue
and Ilse
> 
> Now, I don't put too much on any more but rather add when
required.  A very
> small knot is hardly noticed in larger pieces.

As a rule
I put 4 times the length of the pricking, but still often do too much.
However, I would never knot an added thread - simply work double for a few
centimeters. That doesn't show either.

One thing I was thinking about today
as I wound 100 pairs: are we all obsessive "counters" or is it just me? After
I've wound the first pair I will know how many turns to make - today it was
120. But when I wind the second bobbin of the pair I still count it every
time, just to see how accurate I was in pulling the right amount of thread off
the reel. I can't stop - just HAVE to count.

David in Ballarat

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[lace] Threads on books on demand and data back-up

2011-09-16 Thread Witchy Woman
I've been following these two threads with great interest.  A few things I'd
like to contribute...

I'm hoping that some of the current authors of lace
books are reading this 
thread and will consider the things we have talked
about.  As has been already 
brought up, I think it's important for the
authors to be able to get the money 
that is due to them for their work.  When
books go out of print, the only ones 
who profit are the booksellers.  


As
to formats, I've purchased books through lulu.com, a print-on-demand site,
and have always been happy with the quality of the books I've received.  I
prefer a hard copy to an electronic copy, and lulu provides both.  BTW, they
currently have a few lace titles available.

On the other hand, I think having
the book available in a pdf formt has a lot of 
benefits, too.  The first
being the size.  It can be put on a disk that takes up 
a lot less room than a
book.  The second is that instead of trying to photocopy 
or scan a pattern,
which subjects the pattern to distortion, I can simply print 
out the page. 
The third is that you can zoom in and see details better.

As to the idea of
backing up data...

Even though I use them I don't totally trust magnetic
media such as flash 
drive/memory sticks or external hard drives.  They seem
to die too easily.  I 
always back up on CD's or DVD's, depending on the
size.  There are archival 
quality versions that are made to last that use
gold in their dyes and have 
scratch resistant surfaces.  A bit more
expensive, but worth it.  


I also like the idea of mailing a document to
yourself and storing it in your 
web e-mail.  However, be aware that some
sites such as Yahoo will only keep a 
few years worth of messages.  They
automatically delete messages over a certain 
age..I think it's 3 or 4 years. 
My two cents.

Peg
in chilly Fairview Park OH...seems like a few days ago the
Powers-That-Be 
flipped the great cosmic season switch and plunged us headlong
into autumn.  
Have to dig out the cold weather clothes tomorrow.

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[lace] Books & threads

2011-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
We have 2 lace books- one of Heather Toomer's books,, and the other a Jill
Norsford-Clarke one, in my local library - (a small branch of the main one)
and I take them out every few weeks, just to get it noted on their list as
being used.  I usually browse through them and look at the pictures!  There
is always something I had forgotten, or not noted, and as time passes I get
interested in a "new" lace and can check it out in the books, so borrowing
it is Never a waste! And at least, I am helping to keep them there on the
shelf!

I, too, measure my threads for winding bobbins by pulling out arm lengths!
I wind the first bobbin, getting as much as I think looks about right, then
pull off the reel 2 or 3 arm lengths for the other bobbin.  It is a handy
measure that is always available!!!

Regards from Liz in sunny Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] who would like a needlelace book

2011-09-16 Thread lynrbailey
When I was looking for a book online, I came across this website, which will 
find books in libraries, starting with the closest to you.  After that, I 
assume you contact the library, or go through a local interlibrary loan, but at 
least you know which library says they have it.  

Lyn in Lancaster where it was chilly but brilliant today.  Morning temp was 42F 
5C, up to 66F 17C.  


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>From: corinne jones 
>Sent: Sep 16, 2011 3:52 AM
>To: jeria...@aol.com
>Cc: lace@arachne.com, walker.b...@gmail.com, catherinebar...@btinternet.com
>Subject: Re: [lace] who would like a needlelace book
>
>Hi
>
>This is a good way to get books but please remember that some libraries will
>charge for this service especially in the UK.
>
>Corinne Jones
>in Sunny Sussex
>
>On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:57 AM,  wrote:
>
>> In all of our discussions on this subject, I think the use of  the
>> InterLibrary Loan service (may go by another name in some  countries) has
>> not been
>> given enough attention.  This is a service  scholars all over the world use
>> for research all the time.  You are  lace scholars!
>>
>> When the Lacemakers of Maine were discussing the opportunity presented by
>> "The Professor" in Arizona, my library was raided first for
>> out-of-copyright
>>  books.  After that, I am pretty certain that ** Tess went to her public
>> library connections to borrow books that were out-of-copyright **, and
>> finally -  people who heard what she was doing began to send books to her
>> to be
>> scanned.
>>
>> Has anyone tried to borrow Catherine's book, using this service at their
>> local public library or a university library to which they have  access?
>>
>> If your local library does not have the book you wish to borrow, through
>> this service the local library will borrow the book from the nearest
>>  library
>> that has the book.
>>
>> Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
>> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/15/2011 12:48:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> walker.b...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi  everyone and Catherine
>>
>> First off, for Catherine, I do hope you can back  up your original
>> material in a form which you can readily use to republish,  'just in
>> case.'
>>
>> The book business interests me. In the craft world,  subdivision
>> knitting, I see digital books for sale alongside print books. I  even
>> see digital books at half-price in the 'sale' section (topic  for
>> another time - how can that be when it isn't a hard copy? if it  is
>> discontinued, will there be a market for secondhand digital  titles?!).
>> I've looked for Catherine's Needlelace book online, none  available
>> within reason, for sale, or listed but noted as 'out of stock and  out
>> of print.' It was not listed at my public library's online  catalogue.
>> I know of one or two copies that I could borrow from  individuals, but
>> that's all. For my purposes, I don't need to have this  book in print
>> form - actually I don't need this book at all but now that we  are
>> talking about it I'd love to see it again. I like the idea of  a
>> digital version.
>>
>> Just out of interest, who reading this would buy  a copy of Needlelace
>> Designs and Techniques by Catherine Barley if it is  re-issued in one
>> form or another (print or digital)?
>>
>> --
>> Bev in  Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
>> coast of  Canada
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Re: [lace] Re: Tambour Hook (was Other Laces)

2011-09-16 Thread Jacquie Tinch
A proper tambour hook doesn't have a latch!  That's what makes it hard to use.  

But because it doesn't have a latch, you don't have the problem of the latch 
closing when you are using it in a point down/handle up direction, (as you do 
on net,) and is why an experienced tambourer can work extremely fast. 

You have to master a sort of twist back and forth on the handle as you go up 
and down, along with a pressure of the smooth side of the hook against the net, 
and this along with tension on the thread, is what keeps the thread in the hook 
while allowing the open hook to go in and out of the holes without snagging.

I found it much easier to move in some directions than in others. It is one of 
those skills which really does fall into the "everything in life is rhythm and 
practise" motto. 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Sep 2011, at 22:44, "Sue Babbs"  wrote:

> The easiest way to describe the tambour hook is to think of it as a miniature 
> rug hook i.e. the flap closes as you  pull the hook back through the net.
> 
> 
> Sue
> 
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Re: [lace] Re: Tambour Hook (was Other Laces)

2011-09-16 Thread Sue Babbs
The easiest way to describe the tambour hook is to think of it as a 
miniature rug hook i.e. the flap closes as you  pull the hook back through 
the net.



Sue

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[lace] Re: Tambour Hook (was Other Laces)

2011-09-16 Thread Jenny De Angelis

Hi Sue,

If you wanted to have a go at Tambour Lace then you can get a Tambour Hook 
from the site below, it is for a supplier in Belgium where they make Lierse 
Lace, a Tambour Lace.

http://www.scharlaeken.be/en/default.dhtml

You would be able to pay on the site with a card so exchange from sterling 
to Euros would be done easily.


You would really need a proper tambour hook if you wanted to do this lace as 
the hook has a barb on it, like a fish hook, this helps to catch the thread 
from underneath the frame holding the net.


I once attended a day workshop of Coggeshall Lace, the English Tambour Lace 
which was made in Coggeshall Essex in the past, when I was still living in 
England.  I have done a little since then but not a great deal.  As far as I 
am aware Coggeshall was the only place that this Tambour of lace  of this 
kind was made in England, hence the name Coggeshall Lace.

Have a look at the Coggeshall Museum site here
http://www.coggeshallmuseum.org.uk/lace1.htm

The 'Cotton' net is stretched over a frame, an embroidery frame works well 
such as you would use for Cross stitch etc.  the thread sits in a vessel, a 
yoghourt pot is useful for this but it need a lid with a hole in for the 
thread to pass through so that the thread doesn't roll about the floor. 
You have the pattern pinned to the underside of the net by just one edge of 
the pattern so that you can bring it up under the net now and then to guide 
you as you work.  the Hook passes down through a hole in the net and the 
thread is caught on the hook and brought out of the net to form a loop. 
With the loop still on the hook the hook is passed back down through the 
next hole in the net and the through caught and brought up again and that 
2nd loop passes through the 1st loop made.  Just as in Crochet where loops 
pass through previous loops to form a chain when you begin a piece of 
crochet.  There are various filling stitches that can be used once you have 
the outline of the design in chain stitches but those filling stitches are 
all based on that same movement of the hook through the holes in the net.


There is a knack to using the barbed hook which takes a little time to 
master but once you have mastered  it you can get a bit of speed up.


The Hook comes without any handle but should fit into your pin vice that you 
use for pricking lace patterns, provided you have a pricker with a screw 
thingy to allow for changing the needle.


A word of Warning be very careful of the tambour hook and the barb on it. 
If you get that caught in your hand or anything then you might need medical 
assistance to remove it as the barb will catch under the skin, you should 
not just pull it out willy nilly.  Guard the hook tip with a small piece of 
a bottle cork when not in use.  I keep mine, with a bit of cork in place, in 
an old aluminium cigar tube complete with the pin vice that holds it.


The above site is the only place I know where you can get Tambour Hooks and 
you could also buy the necessary cotton net from the same place.  Nylon net 
is no good as it stretches and would spring back once it is off the frame. 
Look under Linen and Cotton Material link and select Cotton then look for 
Tulle Cotton to find the net.


Go to the site above and look to the bottom of the left hand menu and click 
on EN for English text.  Then go to the link Accessoires(sic) in the same 
menu.  Under that link you will find Crochet Hooks, click on that link and 
then scroll down below the list of Crochet hooks to find Duchesse hooks of 3 
varying sizes, 70, 80 & 100.  To begin with you would need to use a larger 
size hook, to make it easier for  yourself to get the hang of the 
manipulating the hook to catch the thread etc., then as you advance you can 
go to a finer hook.  I can't remember now which way the sizing goes on these 
hooks but if you ask via the contact us link on the site they will tell you 
which size is the larger of the 3 sizes given, probably size 70 rather than 
100 but I am not sure.


Jan, the man who runs the business, very often attends our annual regional 
lace day, the one I mentioned that is limited to 3000 lacemakers.  He is 
always swamped with customers at his very large stall.   He is very helpful 
and speaks English so language would not be a problem if you contact him via 
e.mail.


If you look under the link for Books on the site there are a couple for 
Tambour Lace under the heading Lace of Lier.  Might give you some 
inspiration.


When the OIDFA conference was in Barcalona back in 1994 I went to it and saw 
a Belgian lady wearing a beautiful triangular shaped collar made of Liers 
lace it was truly beautiful and something different to all the bobbin lace 
on display.


Regards
Jenny DeAngelis

Sue Wrote;-
<< A friend came across a second hand book mentioning lacemaking and bought 
it
for me recently which was nice but when she handed it over it is Tambour 
lace.

I had heard the name but didn't know anything about i

Re: [lace] Copley's research

2011-09-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Diana:

I assume it's the same Copley that is now part of Copley Marshall & Co. of 
Huddersfield, but I couldn't get any further either. Looks like they're one of 
the few members of the mid-Yorkshire Chamber of Commerce that do not have a 
website! Pity. They're listed in business directories as yarn wholesalers, so I 
guess they got out of the retail business.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


On 2011-09-16, at 10:23 AM, Diana Smith wrote:

> I recently bought a lovely box, for use in a haberdashery shop, on ebay.
> 
> It was used to hold 'Copley's Embroidery & Knitting Wools' - not exactly lace 
> I know. I thought I would do some research on Copley's but with very little 
> result. Do any of you knowledgeable people out there have any information on 
> the company and what happened to them? Perhaps Brenda is the person in the 
> know!
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> Diana in Northants

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[lace] Copley's research

2011-09-16 Thread Diana Smith

I recently bought a lovely box, for use in a haberdashery shop, on ebay.

It was used to hold 'Copley's Embroidery & Knitting Wools' - not exactly 
lace I know. I thought I would do some research on Copley's but with very 
little result. Do any of you knowledgeable people out there have any 
information on the company and what happened to them? Perhaps Brenda is the 
person in the know!


Any help appreciated.
Diana in Northants 


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[lace] lace quote

2011-09-16 Thread Nancy Neff
I recently bought a First Day Program folder for the issue of the four lace
stamps championed by the Great Lace Lace Group, largely because it had this
great quote about lace at the top of the blurb.  It is unattributed, but neat
anyway:
 
"The skill that facets a diamond from stone merely uncovers latent
beauty, but the lacemaker creates it from almost nothing."
 
Just wanted to
share (altho the "thread misers" like Susie might not consider it "almost
nothing" :-))
 
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Sue

I never put knots into the lace (only when having to tie off).
I know the approx length of my arms outstretched and pull off using that 
measure x however many I think needed (or two thirds for smaller things), 
Lots of lace has multiple workers for diamonds, trails and things like that, 
but this is literally just torchon ground with the fans running up the 
sides.
I never count turns of thread:-)  I cant retain the info long enough, LOL. 
I have to check sometimes if I am on the second stretch of arms or third as 
I can loose track of that also during a batch of bobbins.I dont mind the 
two bobbins not having quite the same amount of thread as I like to add 
single bobbins if needed but not more than one at a time.

Anyway thank you David for your input.
Sue T
Dorset UK

David Wrote
As a rule I put 4 times the length of the pricking, but still often do too 
much. However, I would never knot an added thread - simply work double for 
a few centimeters. That doesn't show either.


One thing I was thinking about today as I wound 100 pairs: are we all 
obsessive "counters" or is it just me? After I've wound the first pair I 
will know how many turns to make - today it was 120. But when I wind the 
second bobbin of the pair I still count it every time, just to see how 
accurate I was in pulling the right amount of thread off the reel. I can't 
stop - just HAVE to count.

David in Ballarat


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Re: [lace] Re: amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread C Johnson

Wow, I am a thread miser, I guess...

I actually try to follow the threads to find out which is going to be the 
longest threads and wind appropriately.


Whoever gets my books after me is gonna' love them.  I write the estimated 
lengths by the patterns in my books in pencil.
If I miss it really bad, I might even go back and correct the length - 
longer or maybe even shorter.


Susie in Morris, IL where the weather was down right cool this a.m.
Almost needed gloves on my walk.

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[lace] Re: amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Tatman
On 9/16/11 9:10 AM, "David C COLLYER"  wrote:
> One thing I was thinking about today as I wound 100 pairs: are we all
> obsessive "counters" or is it just me? After I've wound the first
> pair I will know how many turns to make - today it was 120. But when
> I wind the second bobbin of the pair I still count it every time,
> just to see how accurate I was in pulling the right amount of thread
> off the reel. I can't stop - just HAVE to count.

I measure 1.5 or 2 times the length of the pricking(4 times if it is a
repeating worker pair). I have tried to count, but then I tend to lose count
and my brain cells go pfffzz.  So counting gets in the way as I try
to watch tv or talk to someone or just get deep in thought about other
things(like "why is there air?"[reference from Billy Cosby]).  So I don't
bother counting and wait for the measured amount to diminish and then wind
the other half of the pair.  I am far from being anal HAHA

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
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Re: [lace] amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Sue and Ilse

Now, I don't put too much on any more but rather add when required.  A very
small knot is hardly noticed in larger pieces.


As a rule I put 4 times the length of the pricking, but still often 
do too much. However, I would never knot an added thread - simply 
work double for a few centimeters. That doesn't show either.


One thing I was thinking about today as I wound 100 pairs: are we all 
obsessive "counters" or is it just me? After I've wound the first 
pair I will know how many turns to make - today it was 120. But when 
I wind the second bobbin of the pair I still count it every time, 
just to see how accurate I was in pulling the right amount of thread 
off the reel. I can't stop - just HAVE to count.


David in Ballarat

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[lace] Re: Who Would Like a Needlelace Book?

2011-09-16 Thread Susan Reishus
I purchased Catherine's book fairly recently, after months and months of
searching, so wouldn't need it.  I strongly prefer hard copy, so probably
would not purchase digital unless it was the only option, fwiw.  I really
dislike anything other than hard copy books (for instance Interweave is going
strongly that way) and tend to ignore, or rarely purchase something and just
print out what I need.  BTW, some have problems with their magazine forms
being printable, but that may be moot and change.  Now, to be able to purchase
a particular pattern and download and print it is OK, but not my favorite,
either.  The perk is you can have it instantly, of course.  I check AZ,
Gutenburg and Antique Library, but the digital forms are off-putting to me. 
Nice to be able to peruse it though, and I go on looking for the rare copy if
I love it.


Inter-Library Loan is fading also, as I have asked for books that
used to be available, and they are gone.  Librarians say that rules are
changing to it staying within the library itself, or country (sometimes Canada
won't loan certain things to USA anymore when I have checked on a few items,
and probably the converse-I don't know about the other side).  This is because
dishonesty has increased and people keep them.  The library's replacement fee
for any lost book is about $25, so people figure that they are getting an OOP
book, inexpensively.  They say it is lost and perhaps pay nothing, or at
worst, $25.  What they don't think about, is the hundreds or thousands of
people who are short changed the rich experience of that book.  


I once had
a Shetland Lace library book stolen out of the front seat of my car, when I
thought my car was locked.  Who would have thought that someone interested in
a fairly rare technique, would have passed by and done that kind of thing? 
About 35 years ago, I found an incredible knitting book, full of hundreds of
lace and other things for infant to toddler, and bed jackets for the mother. 
Checked it out several times and the last time, I got a funny feeling and
thought I would photocopy the whole book.  Decided to check it out again a
year or two later, and they said that a woman checked it out and kept it. 
They knew who it was, she had done it before, but just shrugged their
shoulders, saying they could do nothing.  I was deeply saddened about all of
the people who were short changed an incredible knitting journey with this
book.

Best,
Susan Reishus 

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Re: [lace] who would like a needlelace book

2011-09-16 Thread Clay Blackwell
RE:  Geri's suggestion to use inter-library loan...

When I first began to make lace, I went to our local library to borrow books, 
but they only had one or two... very old at that and not much help for a 
beginner.  Inter-library loan did not net any more.  The problem, according to 
the librarian, is that books are ordered based on their genre, and the genres 
that have the most circulation are the ones which take up the most space in the 
shelves.  If two lace books are ordered, but then never checked out, then not 
only are more lace books not ordered, but those they have are eventually 
consigned to the sale table to make room for books that do circulate.

A good friend advised me early on to keep my eyes open when the new lace books 
came out.  She told me I should buy them when I saw them, because they 
sometimes quickly went out of print.  This was very good advice, which I took 
to heart.  It seems to me that in those days, there were lots more books coming 
out each year, and that they were not so expensive as today's books.  Still, I 
think  that the advice is still sound.  That does not help newcomers to lace, 
however, who are finding it difficult to get the books they need.  But I think 
it may give us a clue about one of the factors contributing to a decline in 
membership numbers.


When I was president of the local guild, we prepared a display for the library 
during the month of October each year, and demonstrated there twice a week all 
month.  As a result, there was a surge of interest in books, and we always got 
one or two new members.  But, I believe that has not been done for quite a few 
years.

Clay

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[lace] Amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Laceandbits
Ilse said "A very small knot is hardly noticed in larger pieces."  

And therein lies the difference between the common practice on the  
continent and the UK.
 
We tend to double up the thread for a SHORT distance, rather than  
knotting.  I say short because some people forget they are working with  double 
thread and just keep going.  I have seen pillows where several  threads are 
being replaced at the same time (try to avoid that) and they are all  being 
worked as double threads!  Yes, this will show.  And contrary to  most people's 
instinct, the most inconspicuous place to double up the new thread  to 
replace a fan worker is in the tightest short rows at the end/start of fans,  
rather than in the more spread out bit in the centre.  These are the ones  most 
likely to run out.
 
When I was in Spain, one of my Hinojosa pillows was being used as a  
demonstration pillow, and when three threads were broken over course of the  
week, 
the replacements were knotted in.  I just shrugged and thought "When  in 
Rome"   But when I got home and looked properly, the first of  the three 
knots (ie furthest back!) had neatly positioned itself in the dead  centre of 
one of the twisted bars of thread.  That I could not live with so  the 
whole lot was undone and redone without knots.
 
Back to Sue's original question.  
According to Geraldine Stott in her "A Visual Introduction to Bucks Point  
Lace", four times the length of pricking is a good rule of thumb, so it 
sounds  as if you are spot on.  You have realised the exception of the fan 
workers  and if there is a continous trail, for example, those workers would 
also 
 need some extra thread.  But as you are measuring the amount of thread you 
 are putting on, why not measure how much thread you have left to help you 
better  judge for your next piece.  
 
I agree with Ilse that it is often better to join threads in than to waste  
loads, and if you are doing a large project you need to bite the bullet and 
 accept that you are going to have to add threads at intervals rather than  
overfilling your bobbins in the hopes that it will be enough.  But for a  
smaller project, where the bobbins are big enough to hold all the thread in 
one  go, it is really frustrating to get to within the last few inches and 
have to  start replacing thread after thread.
 
Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Ilse Depaepe
Dear Sue,

When I first started, I filled up my bobbins completely.  And now after many
years I am still using up some of the threads.  However, in the meantime,
they have become more fragile and a bit dirty.  And All my seizes have mixed
together as well.

Now, I don't put too much on any more but rather add when required.  A very
small knot is hardly noticed in larger pieces.

Hope this helps.

Happy lacemaking.

Ilse

2011/9/16 Sue 

> I know this comes up time and again, but I am currently preparing 42 pairs
> of
> bobbins to do a strip of lace and am unsure if I need put quite as much
> thread
> onto each pair as I am.  Almost all of the lace in this piece is just
> torchon
> ground, with fans along both the edges (where I will obviously need much
> more
> thread and will fill the bobbins up), but the rest is about 36 inches of
> ground and have been putting approx 12 feet of thread onto each of the
> bobbins.   As I am using gutterman silk it is taking lots of thread.OK,
> I
> know I can use up excess thread on other pieces of lace afterwards, but
> lots
> of times I want other threads for the next pieces and dont want so many
> bobbins left holding thread indefinately.
> Am I going overboard with the amounts, or is this the sensible amount?
> Advice please.
> Sue T
> Dorset UK
> www.hurwitzend.co.uk
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[lace] Other laces

2011-09-16 Thread Sue
A friend came across a second hand book mentioning lacemaking and bought it
for me recently which was nice but when she handed it over it is Tambour lace.
I had heard the name but didn't know anything about it so checked out some
youtube videos, (what a fabulous resourse that is).  I was able to see what it
was and how it was done.  Of course I dont have a tambour hook, but might
manage to use a small crochet hook to have a play at it in the future.   Due
to sudden family illness and also as I am currently working on holiday present
pieces I haven't done anymore with the book.
So many years I spent with time on my hands just knitting and crochet when I
could have been learning all these lovely techniques with more years ahead of
me to use them.   
Sue T
Dorset UK
www.hurwitzend.co.uk

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[lace] amounts of thread

2011-09-16 Thread Sue
I know this comes up time and again, but I am currently preparing 42 pairs of
bobbins to do a strip of lace and am unsure if I need put quite as much thread
onto each pair as I am.  Almost all of the lace in this piece is just torchon
ground, with fans along both the edges (where I will obviously need much more
thread and will fill the bobbins up), but the rest is about 36 inches of
ground and have been putting approx 12 feet of thread onto each of the
bobbins.   As I am using gutterman silk it is taking lots of thread.OK, I
know I can use up excess thread on other pieces of lace afterwards, but lots
of times I want other threads for the next pieces and dont want so many
bobbins left holding thread indefinately.
Am I going overboard with the amounts, or is this the sensible amount?
Advice please.
Sue T
Dorset UK
www.hurwitzend.co.uk

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Re: [lace] who would like a needlelace book

2011-09-16 Thread corinne jones
Hi

This is a good way to get books but please remember that some libraries will
charge for this service especially in the UK.

Corinne Jones
in Sunny Sussex

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:57 AM,  wrote:

> In all of our discussions on this subject, I think the use of  the
> InterLibrary Loan service (may go by another name in some  countries) has
> not been
> given enough attention.  This is a service  scholars all over the world use
> for research all the time.  You are  lace scholars!
>
> When the Lacemakers of Maine were discussing the opportunity presented by
> "The Professor" in Arizona, my library was raided first for
> out-of-copyright
>  books.  After that, I am pretty certain that ** Tess went to her public
> library connections to borrow books that were out-of-copyright **, and
> finally -  people who heard what she was doing began to send books to her
> to be
> scanned.
>
> Has anyone tried to borrow Catherine's book, using this service at their
> local public library or a university library to which they have  access?
>
> If your local library does not have the book you wish to borrow, through
> this service the local library will borrow the book from the nearest
>  library
> that has the book.
>
> Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>
>
> In a message dated 9/15/2011 12:48:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> walker.b...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi  everyone and Catherine
>
> First off, for Catherine, I do hope you can back  up your original
> material in a form which you can readily use to republish,  'just in
> case.'
>
> The book business interests me. In the craft world,  subdivision
> knitting, I see digital books for sale alongside print books. I  even
> see digital books at half-price in the 'sale' section (topic  for
> another time - how can that be when it isn't a hard copy? if it  is
> discontinued, will there be a market for secondhand digital  titles?!).
> I've looked for Catherine's Needlelace book online, none  available
> within reason, for sale, or listed but noted as 'out of stock and  out
> of print.' It was not listed at my public library's online  catalogue.
> I know of one or two copies that I could borrow from  individuals, but
> that's all. For my purposes, I don't need to have this  book in print
> form - actually I don't need this book at all but now that we  are
> talking about it I'd love to see it again. I like the idea of  a
> digital version.
>
> Just out of interest, who reading this would buy  a copy of Needlelace
> Designs and Techniques by Catherine Barley if it is  re-issued in one
> form or another (print or digital)?
>
> --
> Bev in  Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
> coast of  Canada
>
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[lace] who would like a needlelace book

2011-09-16 Thread Jean Nathan

Jeri wrote:

this service the local library will borrow the book from the nearest 
library

that has the book.>

In the UK many public libraries are closing, despite strong protests, 
because the local authorities have to cut their spending and libraries are 
an easy target. Some are managing to stay open by being run by volunteers. 
Being a librarian is obviously not a prestigious occupation to some in 
authority.


I haven't tried to find out, but I suspect that Bournemouth University 
library wouldn't carry books on lacemaking- they would need their funding to 
buy what books they could afford for the courses they run. I don't know if 
they would welcome someone who wasn't studying there into their library in 
any case, but the college I went to many years ago certainly wouldn't have 
allowed you through the door unless you produced your college membership ID.


Having said that I'm thinning my books by getting rid of those I'll never 
use, I'm keeping most of my needlelace books, even though I'll never even 
attempt needlelace, because they're such lovely eye candy and can cheer me 
up if I'm feeling down. I also delude myself that they could give 
inspiration for a design in bobbin lace.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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