Fw: [lace] modesty panel

2012-05-09 Thread Sue
The first time and only time I have worn this top, so far I tucked my hand 
made lace hanky but found that lace on its own didn't lay well and as I 
moved about so did it so what I am doing with this piece is to attach it to 
the top so it stays there.  I believe that it will wash well, folded into 
one of those little net bags and then hung up and just tweeked with my 
fingers or a little bit of a press as my napkins do which have been in 
occasional use in the last over three years.
As the lace is not very wide or deep I think it would not lay nicely on its 
own and with just a couple of loops and buttons or other and I would spend 
all the time checking it or trying to get it to sit right.
Thank you for all your input everyone, it is interesting to see what others 
do or would consider.

Sue T
in damp dull Dorset today, waiting for the window broken by a workman using 
a strimmer to be replaced soon, please, so I can see to work better again, 
:-(



Hi Sue and spiders,

Do you want to use this modesty panel for this top only? What about 
washing? I would rather make two -strong- loops with buttons at the top at 
either end so that I could fasten that around my bra straps. That way it 
can be washed separately and can be used under other garments as well. 
Looking forward to seeing a picture of it.

Happy lace making, Joepie, East Sussex, UK

On May 8, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Sue wrote:

I am wondering about the most secure but unobtrusive way to hand sew it

onto

this knitted cotton jersey type material but will definatly have to be

careful

of my tension. I am very bad at sewing things too tight


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Re: [lace] modesty panel

2012-05-09 Thread Sue
The photo is not up in the webshots album HURWITZEND, is you want to take a 
look.  At the moment just will pins holding it into position.

Sue T

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Hi Sue and spiders,

Do you want to use this modesty panel for this top only? . Looking forward 
to seeing a picture of it.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

On May 8, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Sue wrote:


I am wondering about the most secure but unobtrusive way to hand sew it

onto

this knitted cotton jersey type material but will definatly have to be

careful

of my tension. I am very bad at sewing things too tight




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Re: [lace] modesty panel

2012-05-09 Thread Sue
Thank you very much Joepie.  I have to say that pinned in place it really 
looks to be part of the top, so I am very pleased and keen to make it look 
good.


Also I should have said the photo is now (instead of not, LOL).   Sorry for 
the typo, grin.

Sue T


Hi Sue,

Very nice! I can see why you want to attach it rather than make it 
multi-use.

Happy lace making,

Joepie.


Subject: Re: [lace] modesty panel

The photo is not up in the webshots album HURWITZEND, is you want to take 
a

look.  At the moment just will pins holding it into position.
Sue T





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[lace] Lacemaking in Spain

2012-05-09 Thread Laurie Waters
There were so many lace days in Spain in April, 40 that I listed on the
LaceNews events calendar http://lacenews.net/lace-event-calendars/.  The
number peaked on April 22nd when in addition to the 10 I had listed, there
were 14 additional ones that I just couldn't fit on the calendar!  Each one
attracts several hundred to several thousand lacemakers. The Arenys de Mar
event appears to be the largest, attracting over 3000 lacemakers, and this
year had 3 associated exhibitions. Carolina kindly took me to the museum there
not long ago
http://lacenews.net/2010/11/21/museums-museu-mares-de-la-punta-arenys-de-mar-
spain/, which is very impressive.
In contrast to England and America, most Spanish lace events (the main word
used to describe these is 'Encuentro', but there are others in Catalan and
Galician), are held on Sundays, and largely peak in March and April. Most are
sponsored with the help of the local municipal authorities, and there seems to
be a fairly consistent agenda - welcome, demonstrations, some kind of lunch,
more demos, and a group dinner afterward. Although it can get much more
complex.
Lacemaking in Spain is truely impressive, and we need to pay much more
attention to it. Look at this video http://tinyurl.com/87lzhr4, which shows
professional lacemakers in Camariñas in Galicia. There is a huge 5 day annual
event in Camariñas promting the use of the local lace in fashion. I'm adding
lots of videos from this  year's event to the April LaceNews YouTube Channel
update.
I'm hoping that here in New Mexico we can get more exposure for Spanish
lacemaking in the US, afterall, official documents in New Mexico are all in
English and Spanish. The Spanish first settled in the US only 40 miles from
where I live, and the dialect they speak around here traces back to the
conquistadors.  Spanish lacemaking techniques also emigrated to Argentina, and
videos on their events are starting to show up on YouTube.
Laurie
http://lacenews.net

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Spain

2012-05-09 Thread Malvary Cole
Jacquie and I were at the Lace Event in Camariñas again this year - this 
time as exhibitors.  Last year we were visitors but had nowhere to 'call our 
own' space and had to find little corners to sit and make lace.  We were 
surprised at how many people told us that they didn't know that there was 
lace made in England.  We made enquiries as to if and how we could be there 
with a booth for this year.


We had an exhibit of most, if not all, of the different types of lace made 
in England.  We had photos of one or two types where we didn't actually have 
a sample.


We had our English lace pillows and I made a Malmesbury bookmark (for my 
bookmark exchange) and Jacquie worked on a piece of Bedfordshire.  It is 
interesting how similar the Bedfordshire and the local Galician lace are. 
The main difference is the weight of the thread.  People are very interested 
to see our English bobbins with all the spangles.


I will go back in a heart-beat if I get the chance.

Malvary in Ottawa where spring has sprung, the grass is riz.

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[lace] Lace fences

2012-05-09 Thread Margery Allcock
More interesting than chain-link:

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/arts-and-lifestyle/2012/05/knitting-c
hain-link-fencing-work-art/1902/

or the tiny URL to the same place:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bv8nsxy

Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
 

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[lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
I’ve been making Flanders, using Barbara Corbet’s book, which I highly
recommend, satisfied customer, etc., since last September.  I have now bitten
off more than I can reasonably chew by tackling # XI in Kumiko Nakazaki’s
first volume of Flanders lace patterns.  Tensioning increases is relatively
straightforward.  Wait until you have a thread going from a pin to a pin, and
then tension the purely verticals as always, and those pairs which make a turn
carefully.  My problem now is tensioning decreases.  Very often, in fact most
of the time, there is no pair that goes from pin to pin.  Waiting to tension
gets a bit difficult, as the ring pair is clearly designed to lock in the
tension and position of the cloth stitch pairs, so waiting beyond that would
end up counter productive.  Yet there’s got to be a way.  Any ideas?

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where my antique roses can be smelled a
hundred feet away, and it’s just beginning.

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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread sally13nmex
Hi Lyn,

I don't quite understand your problem - are you working 4 pairs at a time?  
When you are doing the ground stitch, are arranging your 4 pairs, double 
stitching in the middle, half stitching on one side, half stitching on the 
other, pin, double in the middle?

Or is it in the cloth stitch areas where you are having trouble? When you are 
doing inputs?  Or is it when you are taking two pair out of the cloth stitch 
areas?

Sally
Farmington New Mexico

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From: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:32:31 AM
Subject: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

I���ve been making Flanders, using Barbara Corbet���s book, which I highly
recommend, satisfied customer, etc., since last September.  I have now bitten
off more than I can reasonably chew by tackling # XI in Kumiko Nakazaki���s
first volume of Flanders lace patterns.  Tensioning increases is relatively
straightforward.  Wait until you have a thread going from a pin to a pin, and
then tension the purely verticals as always, and those pairs which make a turn
carefully.  My problem now is tensioning decreases.  Very often, in fact most
of the time, there is no pair that goes from pin to pin.  Waiting to tension
gets a bit difficult, as the ring pair is clearly designed to lock in the
tension and position of the cloth stitch pairs, so waiting beyond that would
end up counter productive.  Yet there���s got to be a way.  Any ideas?

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where my antique roses can be smelled a
hundred feet away, and it���s just beginning.

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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Sally, et al,
 Sorry for not being more clear.  It's in the cloth stitch areas where 
there are decreases that the problem lies. Ground stitch is no problem, it's 
CTCT all 4 times, and that locks in anything.  Since ring pairs and what I call 
pseudo ring pairs at the bottom of a cloth stitch area are always CTCT, it 
means tensioning need to be done before really leaving the cloth stitch area.  

I was SURE I'd done that message in plain text.  
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where I hope the wash dries before the 
rain comes.  

-Original Message-
From: sally13n...@q.com
Sent: May 9, 2012 10:56 AM
To: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

Hi Lyn,

I don't quite understand your problem - are you working 4 pairs at a time?  
When you are doing the ground stitch, are arranging your 4 pairs, double 
stitching in the middle, half stitching on one side, half stitching on the 
other, pin, double in the middle?

Or is it in the cloth stitch areas where you are having trouble? When you are 
doing inputs?  Or is it when you are taking two pair out of the cloth stitch 
areas?

Sally
Farmington New Mexico

- Original Message -
From: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:32:31 AM
Subject: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

I���ve been making Flanders, using Barbara Corbet���s book, which I highly
recommend, satisfied customer, etc., since last September.  I have now bitten
off more than I can reasonably chew by tackling # XI in Kumiko Nakazaki���s
first volume of Flanders lace patterns.  Tensioning increases is relatively
straightforward.  Wait until you have a thread going from a pin to a pin, and
then tension the purely verticals as always, and those pairs which make a turn
carefully.  My problem now is tensioning decreases.  Very often, in fact most
of the time, there is no pair that goes from pin to pin.  Waiting to tension
gets a bit difficult, as the ring pair is clearly designed to lock in the
tension and position of the cloth stitch pairs, so waiting beyond that would
end up counter productive.  Yet there���s got to be a way.  Any ideas?

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where my antique roses can be smelled a
hundred feet away, and it���s just beginning.

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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread lynrbailey
BINGO!! so you give yourself something to tension against.  I'm assuming insect 
pins.  That should make things a lot easier.  Any other thoughts anyone?  Lyn


Sally wrote:
Ok, it's when you are taking pairs out of the cloth stitch areas and the two 
pairs join the ground stitch areas?

When you take two pairs out of the cloth stitch areas, 1. you take the worker 
out through the gimp if there is one and through the ring in double stitch.  
2. Then you go back and cloth stitch the two pair right next to the gimp, take 
the left hand pair ( assuming the gimp is on the left side of the cloth st 
area), and take it out through the gimp and ring to join the old worker pair.  
The pair that's left in the cloth stitch area, the pair on the right is now 
the worker pair.  That's usually where trouble with tensioning occurs.  I use 
a temporary, unmarked pin to solve that problem.  I put it inbetween the two 
pairs next to the gimp before I do that cloth stitch between them in step 2.. 
This is what Anne Marie does in Bruges.  That's not the only solution...let me 
know if I'm on the right track!
Sally

Lyn wrote:
 Sorry for not being more clear.  It's in the cloth stitch areas where 
 there are decreases that the problem lies. Ground stitch is no problem, it's 
 CTCT all 4 times, and that locks in anything.  Since ring pairs and what I 
 call pseudo ring pairs at the bottom of a cloth stitch area are always CTCT, 
 it means tensioning needs to be done before really leaving the cloth stitch 
 area.  

Sally wrote
Or is it in the cloth stitch areas where you are having trouble? When you are 
doing inputs?  Or is it when you are taking two pair out of the cloth stitch 
areas?


Lyn wrote:
 My problem now is tensioning decreases.  Very often, in fact most
of the time, there is no pair that goes from pin to pin.  Waiting to tension
gets a bit difficult, as the ring pair is clearly designed to lock in the
tension and position of the cloth stitch pairs, so waiting beyond that would
end up counter productive.  Yet there's got to be a way.  Any ideas?


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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread sally13nmex
Here's my reply to Lyn - I forgot to add arachne to the address line this 
morning

Ok, it's when you are taking pairs out of the cloth stitch areas and the two 
pairs join the ground stitch areas?

When you take two pairs out of the cloth stitch areas, 1. you take the worker 
out through the gimp if there is one and through the ring in double stitch.  2. 
Then you go back and cloth stitch the two pair right next to the gimp, take the 
left hand pair (assuming the gimp is on the left side of the cloth st area), 
and take it out through the gimp and ring to join the old worker pair.  3. The 
pair that's left in the cloth stitch area, the pair on the right is now the new 
worker pair.  That's usually where trouble with tensioning occurs.  I use a 
temporary, unmarked pin to solve that problem.  I put it inbetween the two 
pairs next to the gimp before I do that cloth stitch between them in step 2.  
Place it so the two passive pairs are not displaced and the previous pass of 
the worker is not displaced either.  This is not the only solution...it's the 
one I use.

The tiny holes left behind bother some people.  The more complex the design the 
less noticeable the holes are.  I have some Flanders I made 15 years ago and 
the little holes have disappeared.  Sometimes when I'm fussy, I take the temp 
pin out an inch or so of cloth stitch later and then I tension very carefully, 
but it's still possible to pull things out of shape at that point.

Sally


- Original Message -
From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net
To: sally13n...@q.com
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:09:26 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

Dear Sally, et al,
 Sorry for not being more clear.  It's in the cloth stitch areas where 
there are decreases that the problem lies. Ground stitch is no problem, it's 
CTCT all 4 times, and that locks in anything.  Since ring pairs and what I call 
pseudo ring pairs at the bottom of a cloth stitch area are always CTCT, it 
means tensioning need to be done before really leaving the cloth stitch area.  

I was SURE I'd done that message in plain text.  
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where I hope the wash dries before the 
rain comes.  

-Original Message-
From: sally13n...@q.com
Sent: May 9, 2012 10:56 AM
To: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

Hi Lyn,

I don't quite understand your problem - are you working 4 pairs at a time?  
When you are doing the ground stitch, are arranging your 4 pairs, double 
stitching in the middle, half stitching on one side, half stitching on the 
other, pin, double in the middle?

Or is it in the cloth stitch areas where you are having trouble? When you are 
doing inputs?  Or is it when you are taking two pair out of the cloth stitch 
areas?

Sally
Farmington New Mexico

- Original Message -
From: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:32:31 AM
Subject: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

I���ve been making Flanders, using Barbara Corbet���s book, which I highly
recommend, satisfied customer, etc., since last September.  I have now bitten
off more than I can reasonably chew by tackling # XI in Kumiko Nakazaki���s
first volume of Flanders lace patterns.  Tensioning increases is relatively
straightforward.  Wait until you have a thread going from a pin to a pin, and
then tension the purely verticals as always, and those pairs which make a turn
carefully.  My problem now is tensioning decreases.  Very often, in fact most
of the time, there is no pair that goes from pin to pin.  Waiting to tension
gets a bit difficult, as the ring pair is clearly designed to lock in the
tension and position of the cloth stitch pairs, so waiting beyond that would
end up counter productive.  Yet there���s got to be a way.  Any ideas?

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where my antique roses can be smelled a
hundred feet away, and it���s just beginning.

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[lace] modesty panel

2012-05-09 Thread Janice Blair
Sue,
I usually use tacking stitches to add lace to garments so they are easily 
removed and can be reused on other garments.  I do leave them on for washing 
and 
usually only remove them once the garment is not at its best and headed to use 
for not for best wear.  In your case, as suggested, you can hide the tacking 
stitches along the seam line.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] Honiton workshop Cleveland Museum lace

2012-05-09 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  My Honiton weekend in Ohio was fun  interesting--two leaves, each 
1/2 finished!  It looks like I will have some pretties for a CQ patch yet this 
summer.  One is a tap leaf  the other has a voided center with cucumber 
tally bars.  All that adding, tossing  sewing made my head spin.  As a 
left-hander, bowing off has not been my strong suit but with a little help from 
my friends, I managed to master a pair of funky scissors with a hook on the end 
of one blade.  I found the scissors on-line at Lacis, along with size 15  16 
crochet hooks!  It turns out you can also use a pair of tweezers to bow off, 
then cut the thread separately, so I have a plan until the Lacis package 
arrives.  While in Smithville, I checked with the gal who is involved with 
textiles at the museum.  Some lace will be put on display when the new section 
opens in 2013 (??).  Apparently it will be in with other European items.  So 
stay tuned, we may get our wish to see a lovely permanent lace ex!
 hibit!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread lbuyred
Lyn,
I generally put in a temporary plait with the two pairs that are exiting the 
ground.  That holds the pair that is turning the corner and becomming the 
worker up against the pin.  Then you just have to remember to remove the plait 
and put in the right number of twists before you begin the ground!  Ask my how 
I know that!
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA

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Re: [lace] Lace fences

2012-05-09 Thread Witchy Woman


It's strange that they call it knitting in the article.  The studio makes
their 
fences using bobbin lace techniques.

Peg
in Fairview Park OH

From: Margery Allcock margerybu...@o2.co.uk
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 10:09:14 AM
Subject:
[lace] Lace fences

More interesting than chain-link:
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/arts-and-lifestyle/2012/05/knitting-c
hain-link-fencing-work-art/1902/

or the tiny URL to the same place:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bv8nsxy

Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North
Herts, UK 
 

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Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Liz et al, 

Thanks for the input.  Y'know, my Dad always said, When in doubt, read the 
directions.  I checked my book, the one by Barbara Corbet, which I highly 
recommend, and she suggests the plait.  However it seems to me that the pin 
solution is faster, and possibly more accurate. I will have to experiment.  I 
was trying to figure out how to prevent holes next to the gimp when decreasing, 
and figured with all the expertise out there, I didn't have to re-invent the 
wheel.  How right I was. Thank you all.   

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where I'm trying to be sure to be near the 
blooming antique rosebush as it goes into a magnificent display.  


-Original Message-
From: lbuy...@nc.rr.com
Sent: May 9, 2012 8:37 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Tensioning Flanders

Lyn,
I generally put in a temporary plait with the two pairs that are exiting the 
ground.  That holds the pair that is turning the corner and becomming the 
worker up against the pin.  Then you just have to remember to remove the plait 
and put in the right number of twists before you begin the ground!  Ask my how 
I know that!
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA

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[lace] modesty panel

2012-05-09 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
On my 2 plastrons that are Mixed lace - bobbin lace outside and needlelace
inner section, I made 2 tiny needlework loops on the back, and I thread a
tiny gold safety pin through them from inside the garment, and through the
loop, and back into the garment.  They don't show, and I am not damaging the
lace, but they hold it in place securely just for the time I am wearing it! 

I have also used the tiny loop and safety pin on a high neck band in
needlelace, which never quite sits right!  A hidden pin holds it in place
centre front without anyone knowing!

Regards from Liz in warm, sunny Melbourne, Oz
lizl...@bigpond.com

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[lace] tensioning Flanders

2012-05-09 Thread Lorelei Halley
Lyn
Tell us about the Barbara Corbet book.  That is one I haven't heard of.
Lorelei

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