[lace] Lace lamps, peg lamps and whale oil
A special thank you to those of you who were in a position to reply to my query about peg lamps. I have found them most helpful and as result of their help and some initial (subjective) observations I would like to share my thinking on this development, which until now, I was totally ignorant of. I stand to be corrected in these observations by those knowledgeable on this subject or have friends that can contribute to our knowledge. My comments are all related to those lamps designated as lace lamps and are oil fueled not candle illuminated. 1. Peg Top lamps: These are mostly blown in three separate pieces, though often two pieces. The key component is a glass oil font that has a peg (Tapered tail perhaps?) and can be fitted into and existing candlestick. To be part of a description of a lace lamp it will generally fit quite deeply into the candle stick leaving a comparatively short amount of the peg (taper) showing above the top of the candlestick. I would guess that in most cases it would not be much longer than 30 mm showing. From my initial observations I think there is a fair representation of peg lamps that are part of the so called lace makers lamps that are around and or collected. Often it would seem to be present in those lamps that have a glass handle to the candlestick part of it. (Not always of course) The taller the lamp the more likely it is to have the peg oil font. The presence of the peg top oil font does not detract from the lamp and its implied use. I am beginning to think that it should be listed a feature of the lamp in any description of it that mat be written. 2. Whale Oil as the fuel As this is a chatty communication I can reveal my total ignorance of this being used as a fuel in historic times. It appears that until the invention of kerosene, âsayâ the mid 1800s, whale oil was the fuel used for most lighting and therefor used as a fuel for those oil fueled lace lamps before and after (until kerosene became more generally available in England... BTW it was invented by a Scotsman). I mention this as a matter of general interest for those, who like me, have never given it much thought; but also as there is a whole genre of âWhale Oil Lampsâ, that, by and large, can not be confused with those we call Lace Makers Lamps. Mostly they are quite different. I might offer the following as a preliminary conclusion: The objects that are described as Lace Makers lamps, may have a feature of a separate blown oil font (peg top) that is designed to fit into an existing candlestick. The presence of a peg top font in a lace makers lamps does not detract from its implied use or value, rather it adds a feature to it that should be recognized in any description of such lamps. Most oil fueled lace makers lamps used whale oil as the fuel until quite late in the 1800s until kerosene became more widely available. Note âKeroseneâ is generally called paraffin in the UK. Brian Ukulele Stuff: http://tiny.cc/mg5rhw Lace Bobbin articles: http://tinyurl.com/ce4q27l - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Nearly finished
Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. Started again tonight and will finish it over the weekend. The socks are great too as Winter has a while to go yet here. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
No..Don't think I've done exactly that. I usually get excited about finishing and push right along. It's *after* finishing a piece that I've used as a demo project for several years that I have a small panic: What will I do now? I don't have a demo project. Then there's the times that I've made something for a special purpose that, when finished, did not meet up to expectations. Heavens, I can't give that to . So I wound more bobbins and started again. I do have to admit that sometimes I just stop to admire the progress on a project. It's fun to look over the total project instead of concentrating on four threads at a time. Alice in Oregon .. facing record hot temperatures today. Good day to stay inside. - Original Message - From: David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
Alice, It's *after* finishing a piece that I've used as a demo project for several years that I have a small panic: What will I do now? I don't have a demo project. I know that panicky feeling. But it always happens when I finish a piece. I rarely know what I'm going to make next, and that thought of not having anything on the go is just awful. Then there's the times that I've made something for a special purpose that, when finished, did not meet up to expectations. Heavens, I can't give that to . So I wound more bobbins and started again. I have to admit to doing that a couple of times as well. It's fun to look over the total project instead of concentrating on four threads at a time. Never a truer word written thanks David in Ballarat, AUS - must get to bed as it's now 2:30 a.m. and freezing!!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
I do this all the time. You'd be surprised how many projects I have lying around, each one only needing a couple of days' work to complete! I'm a process person - for me, it's not the finishing, it's the fun of making something that drives me. So the closer I am to finishing, the less impetus I have to work on it. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. Started again tonight and will finish it over the weekend. The socks are great too as Winter has a while to go yet here. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished. Alice and David. 8-}
I love this exchange..is there a lacer out there who has NOT had all these feelings at time one or another . 'Been there and done that' Smiles, BarbE.peeking out from the shadows Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:23 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Alice, It's *after* finishing a piece that I've used as a demo project for several years that I have a small panic: What will I do now? I don't have a demo project. I know that panicky feeling. But it always happens when I finish a piece. I rarely know what I'm going to make next, and that thought of not having anything on the go is just awful. Then there's the times that I've made something for a special purpose that, when finished, did not meet up to expectations. Heavens, I can't give that to . So I wound more bobbins and started again. I have to admit to doing that a couple of times as well. It's fun to look over the total project instead of concentrating on four threads at a time. Never a truer word written thanks David in Ballarat, AUS - must get to bed as it's now 2:30 a.m. and freezing!!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
David, I always start grieving when the end of a project is near! And yes, I probably drag it out as well! But I'm also eager to get it off the pillow and see it in its glory! Clay Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:14 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Re:Nearly finished
I am like that. But only on pieces where I have enjoyed the pattern do I really not want it to be done. Hence I have several pillows with half finished projects. But if I am just a few inches away from finishing, I do like the satisfaction of working it through to the end. Then I toy with the idea of starting yet another piece I know I will enjoy, instead of trying to finish those others on the pillows. ENDLESS CYCLE!!! -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net email: tat...@tat-man.net Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html blog: http://tat-man.net/blog - Original Message - From: David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
I'm with you, Ilske! I am excited when a new project starts, hate the long middle part when I have become familiar with it, like the end as I am looking forward to seeing it finished, and from the middle part on while working on the lace I am looking forward to the next project and planning it in my head. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
Yes I am the same as you Ilske. Â Always eager to start the next project. Maureen Ilske Thomsen ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de wrote: Oh, I am shocked about myself. It seemed I am not as some of you are. I mostly become very impatient if a work of mine becomes to an end. And I must be careful not to spoil it. Because my thoughts are still on the next project. And I am happy to have finished this one. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] RE: lace-digest V2012 #105
Yes - I do. I think it was 2000? Seems like it was to do with the new millennium? I could be wrong though. What sort of candle holders? I think I may have missed this part. I know Susan Groh had a really pretty Torchon pattern that went into a clear glass/Perspex tealight holder, that got nicknamed a UFO, as it looked a bit like a UFO. Made for a really pretty display of lace. I think I've seen a pattern somewhere for a small circle that would go on a candlestick holder. Can't think where I saw it though. I keep thinking one of the Springett's books, but I'm not certain of that. Cheers, Helen, in summery Duvall, WA, where it's looking to make the mid-90'sF today and tomorrow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Candle pattern
Thank you Helen, I found the Christine Springett book yesterday it is the Lace for Children of all ages and Called the Candle flounce, so have already printed out the pattern. It didn't look the right size, but I took my failed attempts of trying to design my own several years ago and it fitted straight over the top, :-) Great. Sue T Yes - I do. I think it was 2000? Seems like it was to do with the new millennium? I could be wrong though. What sort of candle holders? I think I may have missed this part. I know Susan Groh had a really pretty Torchon pattern that went into a clear glass/Perspex tealight holder, that got nicknamed a UFO, as it looked a bit like a UFO. Made for a really pretty display of lace. I think I've seen a pattern somewhere for a small circle that would go on a candlestick holder. Can't think where I saw it though. I keep thinking one of the Springett's books, but I'm not certain of that. Cheers, Helen, in summery Duvall, WA, where it's looking to make the mid-90'sF today and tomorrow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Nearly Finished
I have had things on my pillows that were not very large and more than half finished and then I didn't touch them for years. Sometimes I finish out of a sense of duty (blah) and sometimes I fall in love with it all over again. But lately I have been mostly tatting and inventing things in tatting and so forth. My husband has to pry my tatting out of my hands to get me to stop for the night and go to bed. But at least I finish. Patty - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Trident edge
Elizabeth, I am not familiar with the term Trident, but wonder if it is the same as a trefoil or little crown. Did you run into either of these terms? If so, they are made differently depending upon what type of thread you are using. Kim On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com wrote: Has anyone done a Trident edge on their plaited lace? I think it might originally be from an Early lace. Question, - is each little plait held in place with a pin between the pairs, and then worked back and 3 windmill crossings at the same pinhole between the 3 plaited bits? One diagram I have, from an Anita Wilkinson book, shows the plaits just looping around a pin,. But the pricking I have - Margaret Tite book, -appears to show them having a pin hole at each tip. Although I have enlarged the photo of the completed piece, it still does not come up very clearly. I have a feeling Tamara wrote about something like this in the IOLI Bulletin. I must get mine out and go through them (what a great excuse to sit and re-read lace magazines!!! ) Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Trident edge
Hello Liz (and everyone) I might have done, although not knowing the name. I do remember making a pointy plaited edge for an Idrija lace where it seemed optional to use a pinhole at the point within the plait, or plait around the pin at the point but that won't answer your question... a google search for 'trident edge' turned up a reference to Margaret Hamer's Pillow Lace (in Google Books) if that will help? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.comwrote: Has anyone done a Trident edge on their plaited lace? I think it might originally be from an Early lace. Question, - is each little plait held in place with a pin between the pairs, and then worked back and 3 windmill crossings at the same pinhole between the 3 plaited bits? One diagram I have, from an Anita Wilkinson book, shows the plaits just looping around a pin,. But the pricking I have - Margaret Tite book, -appears to show them having a pin hole at each tip. Although I have enlarged the photo of the completed piece, it still does not come up very clearly. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Nearly finished
David I never simply work on one thing, I have a challenging pattern usually teaching myself a new technique, any easy pattern to do just for fun, a project eg gifts for family members, and at least 2 others all of different types of lace. I love going from one to the other as the mood and light takes me. And yes when I have my finishing off phase usually around December and January, there is a note of sadness which lasts only a few hours as I usually have my next 10 projects ready and waiting for pillows and bobbins. Anna who is really looking forward to the Flanders workshop that I shall be teaching on the weekend In Sydney on a sunny and perfect Spring morning. On 16/08/12 11:14 PM, David C COLLYER wrote: Dear Friends, I'm wondering whether any of you ever do what I've just done. I've been working on a very difficult piece of Point de Lille for the past 8 weeks or so and it has about 3 days' work left in it. I've enjoyed it so much I am loathe to finish it. So 2 days ago I simply stopped and knitted a pair of socks while I looked at it. Started again tonight and will finish it over the weekend. The socks are great too as Winter has a while to go yet here. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] candle flounce
Hello All! Would someone please explain how to use a candle flounce?? Is this instead of a bobeche? Or under it? Is the flounce just for show not for go? Even when using high quality beeswax candles, there are occasional drips that would be a bear to get out of any textile! You're giving me laundry nightmares!! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
