Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Marianne Gallant]

Hi Clay,

Yes I do realize these are different laces, but it will keep my brain 
young to keep learning things. It may take me a few years to get around 
to any of them, but in the meantime I want to start collecting the 
books, since they seem to go out of print so fast. Like I just managed 
to get Dentelle de Normandie, but was told it was her last copy, and is 
now out of print, the publication date is 2012.
I do wish I could attend workshops, but there are none in the area where 
I live, there may be some in Vancouver, but that is a 6 hour drive from 
here, and then I have to pay for hotels as well. And to attend any out 
of the country is virtually impossible, since flights from here are very 
expensive, and since my husband passed away in December, my pension 
income has been cut in half (but expenses stay the same), so unless I 
can find a way to earn some additional funds, which at age 65 becomes 
difficult, traveling is out of the question. So, I am on my own in 
learning new things from books and/or dvd's.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC
m...@shaw.ca
threadsnminis.blogspot.ca

On 17/07/2015 4:23 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:
> Dear Marianne,
>
> I am surprised that you have not received more comments, and so will 
> give you my opinion on this.
>
> The laces you are attracted to are all beautiful, and are all 
> definitely different from the point ground laces that are universally 
> admired and studied.  In all honesty, Binche has been explored more 
> than the others.  I would recommend that you attend workshops, as the 
> techniques are so style-specific.
>
>> Binche, Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de Paris etc., are  quite 
>> different.  Most are far more complex than point ground laces.  They 
>> share some techniques, and they are different in other respects, such 
>> as the construction of the ground stitches.  But they are all splendid!
>
> Vera Cockuyt's books are actually quite helpful with regard to 
> understanding the differences, but they offer limited examples to 
> explore and study the unique styles.
>
> I am absorbed in Flanders and Binche, and have been for a number of 
> years, but am now beginning to explore the other laces!
>
> Enjoy!  These are my favorite laces!
>
> Clay
> Clay Blackwell
> Lynchburg, VA, USA
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Marianne Gallant  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the recommendations of where to buy books.
>> But I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. The main thing I was
>> asking for what which books I should be looking for to learn Binche,
>> Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de Paris etc. Like, are the books by Vera
>> Cockuyt any good? I have the book on Valenciennes by Annick Staes, and I
>> will see if I can figure any of it out this weekend, but I find it hard
>> to get around in the book, since it has 4 languages, so have to page
>> through quite a bit to get to the next instructionsI guess maybe
>> I'll copy the English pages and put them in a binder, might be easier to
>> find my way around.
>>
>> I am probably going to have to wait a while with buying any books,
>> unless I can get them from our one and only Canadian dealer, since our
>> dollar has dropped considerably against all currencies, like the Euro
>> was worth CAD$1.32 a month ago, now it is over 1.40, and the pound was
>> around 1.90, and now is over 2.00 (and 6 months ago it was around
>> $1.60). It's the reliance on oil export that is killing our economy
>> right now.
>>
>> But in the meantime I would like to know which books are good for
>> learning these laces. I have been burned before with buying books that
>> ended up being useless, one of the detriments of not being able to see
>> the actual book.
>>
>> *Marianne*
>>
>> Marianne Gallant
>> m...@shaw.ca 
>> threadsnminis.blogspot.ca 
>>
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Re: [lace] book recommendations

[Bev Walker]

Hello Lorelei and everyone

You could add this one with its rhythmic title to the good-books list,
under Flanders patterns:

Blumige Rest aus Flandern das Beste, Ulrike Voelcker.
Her booklet takes a present-day approach to old Flanders prickings with a
bonus for "lacemakers who like to work laces with continuous threads and
hesitate to throw away the leftover thread on the (many) bobbins for
another project..."
alas discontinued, but worth looking for a secondhand copy


>
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/continental-straight-laces/page/good-books
>
> The core of the 2nd list was by Clare Settle, her Binche books. Then I
> added
> to it.
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] book recommendations

[Lorelei Halley]

I had meant to post the book list links to arachne, but apparently I sent only
to Marianne.
Here are the links
On laceioli we have been collecting lists of recommended books. They might
be of some help. Some lists are 2 or 3 years old, but I do try to update
when I come across good reviews.  If anyone on arachne can add suggestions,
please post a book review here on arachne. With your permission I will add
your recommendations to the laceioli lists.
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/point-ground-laces/page/good-books-for-learnin
g-point-ground-laces

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/continental-straight-laces/page/good-books

The core of the 2nd list was by Clare Settle, her Binche books. Then I added
to it.

Lorelei Halley

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Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Clay Blackwell]

Dear Marianne,

I am surprised that you have not received more comments, and so will give you
my opinion on this.

The laces you are attracted to are all beautiful, and are all definitely
different from the point ground laces that are universally admired and
studied.  In all honesty, Binche has been explored more than the others.  I
would recommend that you attend workshops, as the techniques are so
style-specific.

> Binche, Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de Paris etc., are  quite different.
Most are far more complex than point ground laces.  They share some
techniques, and they are different in other respects, such as the construction
of the ground stitches.  But they are all splendid!

Vera Cockuyt's books are actually quite helpful with regard to understanding
the differences, but they offer limited examples to explore and study the
unique styles.

I am absorbed in Flanders and Binche, and have been for a number of years, but
am now beginning to explore the other laces!

Enjoy!  These are my favorite laces!

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Marianne Gallant  wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the recommendations of where to buy books.
> But I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. The main thing I was
> asking for what which books I should be looking for to learn Binche,
> Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de Paris etc. Like, are the books by Vera
> Cockuyt any good? I have the book on Valenciennes by Annick Staes, and I
> will see if I can figure any of it out this weekend, but I find it hard
> to get around in the book, since it has 4 languages, so have to page
> through quite a bit to get to the next instructionsI guess maybe
> I'll copy the English pages and put them in a binder, might be easier to
> find my way around.
>
> I am probably going to have to wait a while with buying any books,
> unless I can get them from our one and only Canadian dealer, since our
> dollar has dropped considerably against all currencies, like the Euro
> was worth CAD$1.32 a month ago, now it is over 1.40, and the pound was
> around 1.90, and now is over 2.00 (and 6 months ago it was around
> $1.60). It's the reliance on oil export that is killing our economy
> right now.
>
> But in the meantime I would like to know which books are good for
> learning these laces. I have been burned before with buying books that
> ended up being useless, one of the detriments of not being able to see
> the actual book.
>
> *Marianne*
>
> Marianne Gallant
> m...@shaw.ca
> threadsnminis.blogspot.ca
>
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Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Bev Walker]

Hello Marianne and everyone

I haven't much to add to the excellent site that Lorelei mentioned, but a
few little things came to mind:
I you don't have this one, and really like Buckspoint, it is reasonably
priced and an excellent challenge to manage without diagrams :)
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/publications/floralbuckspoint.html

I understand that Vera Cockuyt's books were published to accompany her
workshops, so they might not seem as thorough as one would like for
self-teaching. However, they are useful to have with other books on the
same laces.
You might like to give the Niven book another try, for Flanders or invest
in the one by Barbara Corbet which has a lot of information and a handsome
sampler and other patterns, with excellent diagrams. If you can follow
those, you can make the lace :)

Despite our poor dollar, you would be saving  by purchasing books from B.
Fay Verlag as Jeri has mentioned. The Barbara Fay company has a flat
shipping rate for overseas. The book prices work out about the same as if
purchased here at home if being able to shop in person. By saying so, I
don't like to undercut our only lace book seller but if you are watching
pennies, and having to mail order anyway, then it is an option to purchase
from B. Fay (Atelier MB also has a flat overseas rate). As you know within
Canada, domestic parcel postage is calculated on size, weight and postal
code - i.e. distance from domestic sender, It is a situation out of our
hand, just like the up-and-down dollar. We work with what we have eh.
Happy lacemaking, regardless
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Marianne Gallant]

Thanks Lorelei, these lists really help. Even with the minimal comments, 
at least it gives a bit of an idea what the book is like, and if it has 
instructions, or just patterns. I guess sometime in the near future I am 
going to have to join some of the lace organizations. I may just have to 
bite the bullet and do it in the next week or so, since our dollar will 
drop even more if the American central bank raises their interest rates, 
while ours just dropped, it can't go much lower.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
m...@shaw.ca
threadsnminis.blogspot.ca

On 17/07/2015 2:49 PM, Lorelei Halley wrote:
> Marianne
> On laceioli we have been collecting lists of recommended books. They 
> might be of some help. Some lists are 2 or 3 years old, but I do try 
> to update when I come across good reviews.  If anyone on arachne can 
> add suggestions, please post a book review here on arachne. With your 
> permission I will add your recommendations to the laceioli lists.
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/point-ground-laces/page/good-books-for-learning-point-ground-laces
>  
>
>
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/continental-straight-laces/page/good-books
>
> The core of the 2nd list was by Clare Settle, her Binche books. Then I 
> added to it.
>
> Lorelei Halley
>
>
>

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[lace] Flickr pics & bookmarks

[hottleco]

Hello All!  My little needlelace basket now has flowers & foliage!  After 
sending it off to Susan K. for the Maryland State Fair lace table, I posted a 
pic.  Pattern is by Joan B. in Amherst, NY & it's my first attempt with Oliver 
Twist & the pea stitch.  The three bears method worked great--#24 tapestry 
needle was too big, #28 was too small, #26 was just right!  My #26 are Mary 
Arden of England tapestry petites & the shorter length was a blessing when 
tucking/sewing short tails.  I also finished another mini pattern by Jane 
Atkinson--Torchon--so perhaps I am cozying up to the techique?  The 2015 
bookmark show is charming & I've enjoyed a trip down memory lane with previous 
years as well.  What talent!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA on the eve 
of our charter chapter program on lace at the library  

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Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Dmt11home]

If you are a member of the International Organization of Lace, Inc, the  
organization has a lending library and is now sending books to members outside 
 the US. You could borrow some books to preview and decide whether they are 
worth  buying.
Details here: 
http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/Library/library.html
Devon
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2015 5:23:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
m...@shaw.ca writes:

Thanks  for all the recommendations of where to buy books.
But I guess I didn't  make myself clear enough. The main thing I was 
asking for what which books  I should be looking for to learn Binche, 
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de  Paris etc. Like, are the books by Vera 
Cockuyt any good? I have the book  on Valenciennes by Annick Staes, and I 
will see if I can figure any of it  out this weekend, but I find it hard 
to get around in the book, since it  has 4 languages, so have to page 
through quite a bit to get to the next  instructionsI guess maybe 
I'll copy the English pages and put them in  a binder, might be easier to 
find my way around.

I am probably  going to have to wait a while with buying any books, 
unless I can get them  from our one and only Canadian dealer, since our 
dollar has dropped  considerably against all currencies, like the Euro 
was worth CAD$1.32 a  month ago, now it is over 1.40, and the pound was 
around 1.90, and now is  over 2.00 (and 6 months ago it was around 
$1.60). It's the reliance on oil  export that is killing our economy 
right now.

But in the meantime I  would like to know which books are good for 
learning these laces. I have  been burned before with buying books that 
ended up being useless, one of  the detriments of not being able to see 
the actual  book.

*Marianne*

Marianne  Gallant
m...@shaw.ca
threadsnminis.blogspot.ca

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Re: [lace] book recommendations needed

[Marianne Gallant]

Thanks for all the recommendations of where to buy books.
But I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. The main thing I was 
asking for what which books I should be looking for to learn Binche, 
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Point de Paris etc. Like, are the books by Vera 
Cockuyt any good? I have the book on Valenciennes by Annick Staes, and I 
will see if I can figure any of it out this weekend, but I find it hard 
to get around in the book, since it has 4 languages, so have to page 
through quite a bit to get to the next instructionsI guess maybe 
I'll copy the English pages and put them in a binder, might be easier to 
find my way around.

I am probably going to have to wait a while with buying any books, 
unless I can get them from our one and only Canadian dealer, since our 
dollar has dropped considerably against all currencies, like the Euro 
was worth CAD$1.32 a month ago, now it is over 1.40, and the pound was 
around 1.90, and now is over 2.00 (and 6 months ago it was around 
$1.60). It's the reliance on oil export that is killing our economy 
right now.

But in the meantime I would like to know which books are good for 
learning these laces. I have been burned before with buying books that 
ended up being useless, one of the detriments of not being able to see 
the actual book.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
m...@shaw.ca
threadsnminis.blogspot.ca

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[lace] Lace book purchases

[jviking]

Hi All,  Some books are available through Abe Books www.abebooks.com

They list offers from bookstores all over the world.  They often have good
prices.  If you type in a title all the copies from many bookstores will
be listed along with the condition, postage, etc. so you can choose.

I'm a very satisfied customer, Jane in Vermont, USA where we are having a
beautiful day - warm but not humid
jvik...@sover.net

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Re: [lace] Re bookmark exchange

[sueat]

This came through just to me, but I think it ought to have gone to Arachne 
as well,   Helene, reply to all allows it to go through the whole site as 
well as the individual person who wrote in in the first place.

Glad others have also enjoyed the experience.
Sue T
Dorset UK



www.hurwitzend.co.uk

Subject: Re: [lace] Re bookmark exchange

I second Sue T's thank you.

Looking forward the Christmas Exchange.

Helene Ulrich
South Carolina, USA 


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[lace] Lace book purchases

[Jeriames]

Dear Marianne,
 
Please bear in mind I am not recommending a book dealer in North America,  
because the cost of shipping and money conversion is usually added to book  
prices twice that way.  It adds up again if something is shipped from the  
U.S. to Canada (where you are).  Postage prices everywhere have escalated  
since 9/11, because packages receive extra scrutiny at airports.
 
When you have your book list from Arachne's lacemakers, may I  suggest you 
go to the lace site in Germany of _www.barbara-fay.de_ 
(http://www.barbara-fay.de)  to see if they offer the  books?  They support 
guild efforts 
throughout Europe by selling books  at large lace events.  They will not have 
some  
privately-published and guild-published books, but do have  many others.  
Barbara is no longer with us.  Her husband and  daughter (Dagmar) run the 
company and speak perfect English.  You can  phone for the cost of using your 
car to drive to a book  store.  Remember the time difference and check their 
schedule to see  if they are at some European lace event as a vendor.
 
What I do is send a memo of the books I want, and call the next day to give 
 credit info.  Remember the time difference and check their vending  
schedule.  I aim for between 10 and 11 a.m. German time.  You do not  need to 
jump 
through banking hoops this way.  Yes, they say you can give  credit info 
with your order, but I never do this - anywhere.  Some of us  have been burned 
by using other methods of payment.
 
They ship air mail at reasonable prices, and they really know the  books 
they sell.  When you look at their catalog, sometimes 2 different  language 
editions have been published of some books.  Be sure you indicate  you want 
English whenever it is available.  Their business  has published books of 
instruction by European teachers in multiple  languages, which is much 
appreciated. 
 
The lace guilds in many European countries still do not understand that we  
want to learn about them as well as their laces, and there are a lot of 
people  whose first or second language is English.  They'd sell more if they 
tried  to at least use English captions with illustrations.   By the 3rd  
generation after immigrating to Australia, Canada, the U.S., etc.,  descendants 
may not choose to learn their grandparents' language.   They may, however, 
want to learn more about precious things (like  lace) made in the land of 
their ancestors. 
 
Do you belong to Canadian Lacemaker Gazette?  I recommend, because  they 
share a list of all Canadian lace groups with their members.   Some of the 
groups may have a library from which members can borrow.   Another advantage is 
that you can "preview" books before ordering for  yourself.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

In a message dated 7/17/2015 12:48:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
m...@shaw.ca writes:

  I want to make a list of books I would eventually like 
to get  Since I  am mostly interested in learning point ground and 
Flanders/Binche/Mechlin  etc type laces, I am looking for book 
recommendations. I have a fair  amount of Bucks Point books, and have got 
a couple of books on Flanders,  but would like some recommendations on 
learning Binche, Mechlin, Point de  Paris and Valenciennes, and I guess 
there are a few other point ground  laces. I have Syllabus 1 and 3 of 
Binche (2 was out of print before I  could buy it), but they are not 
really beginner books. It looks now like  about the only ones available 
for Binche are the ones by either Vera  Cockuyt or Annick Staes, are 
either of them any good? Or am I better off  waiting till a new one comes 
out, or one of the others is reprinted? Also,  is there only one book 
available for Mechlin?
I do wish that some of  the European organizations would start realizing 
that it is not that easy  for North Americans to transfer funds to 
someone's bank account overseas.  From what I can see, I can only do it 
via Hyperwallet, and their exchange  rate and fees are quite high 
compared to using Paypal. And if you add the  rate our dollar is down to 
now, it becomes unaffordable.*Marianne*

Marianne  Gallant

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[lace] Re bookmark exchange

[sueat]

Can I put out a general thanks to all the people who have made this bookmark 
exchange happen, Lin for getting it going in the first place, her enthusiasm 
gave me a final shove to join in this year so I did.   Jenny always does a 
good job with the website, so thank you again despite your painful after 
surgery joint.  Also all the people participating which never ceases to 
surprise and inspire me when I see the variety of ideas that come in to 
play.   I noticed some people fairly new to lace making who also made a 
great job, so I hope everyone is happy with their gift?
Each of us has taken some hours to think and work the pieces that have flown 
around the world, which I think is delightful, so I hope you enjoyed it as I 
did.

So thank you again to both Lin and to Jenny.
Sue T
Dorset UK


Ever since 2006 the very generous lace designers of Arachne have donated
their patterns to the Arachne Card (and Bookmark) Exchange where you can
download them for FREE. The patterns have now been combined into a single
page for you to browse. By clicking on the picture you are taken to that
patterns download page where clear instructions (I hope) are available
telling you how to save the files to your computer. Please take the time to
thank any designer whose work you download as without their generosity the
patterns would be lost.

http://brandis.com.au/arachne/downloads/index.html

While I am on the subject - don't forget the 2015 Card Exchange will be
announced in a few months time,

Regards
Jenny Brandis



je...@brandis.com.au 

www.brandis.com.au    online since 1995



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