[lace] Anny Noben-Slegers
Try this link instead https://www.facebook.com/groups/559079074247095/permalink/965090436979288/ Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Anny Noben-Slegers
Here are some photos of one of her pieces. I think it is eagles and their nest. https://www.facebook.com/saved/?cref=53 Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Dear Lorelei, Thank you for all these links. Yes, those are what I would consider Pottenkant! The piece I am talking about has a flower pot on it. But the technique is totally weird. It may be Pottenkant because it has a flower pot on it, but I think there is some additional descriptor that would apply. Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Dear Lorelei, And I must voice my usual response that I am not at liberty to share better photos over the internet. I will send you some privately, for study purposes only, and not for publication. It is not a part lace. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Possible pottenkant: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/570620215277217370/ possible Bath Brussels: http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlace18th.html#Bath-Brussels Go about half way down this page for several pottenkant on pink background: http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlacepottenkantmilanese.html Some early Flemish, probably very very late 17th c or early 18th c: https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/early-brussels-flemish-milanese/ Lorelei Halley -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Devon Thein Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 12:04 PM To: J-D Hammett Cc: Arachne reply Subject: Re: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed Thanks Joepie. I feel like Potten Kant is a larger category dealing with different laces featuring a flower pot design. Am I wrong about this? This is a very unusual, to me, lace. It does not have any kat stitch or point de Paris type ground in it. Only linen and half stitch. I canb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Dear Lorelei, And I must voice my usual response that I am not at liberty to share better photos over the internet. I will send you some privately, for study purposes only, and not for publication. It is not a part lace. Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Devon I'm afraid my usual complaint applies here, too. That is a really bad photo, impossible to tell anything about the structure from the photo. I can't even tell if it is a part lace or a straight lace. However, I don't think it is pottenkant. That form does have the mirror image in the design. And most of the photos I've seen of pottenkant show a fairly large percentage of the surface to be taken up by a ground. And pottenkant is a straight lace. What comes to mind as a possibility, if it is a part lace, is what Levey calls "Bath Brussels" -- a lace made of discrete motifs, usually somewhat loose in density, compared to Brussels lace of the early 18th century. The design of Bath Brussels would be less taut, less well defined than in Brussels. The date would be c 1700- c 1740 or 1750. But I can't even apply this name to your lace because I can't even tell if it is a part lace, let alone other structural elements. Isn't there a fragmental photo with more clarity? (I would personally like to shoot all the museum photographers who produce this kind of image, and all the curators who treat such photos as acceptable. I realize I'm being a grump, here.) Lorelei -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of DevonThein Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 11:04 AM To: Arachne reply Subject: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed There is a puzzling piece in our collection. It is a flower basket. The cloth work is dense linen stitch. The background is entirely half stitch. I KNOW that someone has told me that this is some special, recognizable form of lace. But, I donb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Devon, When I read your initial post, I immediately thought pottenkant, but then I looked at the photo... I hesitate to argue with Joepie about Dutch lace, but first, I think pottenkant is actually a narrow category, a Dutch lace with a crudely stylized pot and flower, and either 5-hole or kat-stitch ground. It was primarily a middle class to peasant lace. The design in your piece to me looks very much like it has French influence, and IMO is much too flowing and ornate to be pottenkant. The density and ornateness of the design and the shallowly scalloped edge is like late 17th C Valenciennes, but the lack of any fillings, and especially the presence of half-stitch as ground, argue against that identification. Perhaps these observations will contribute to someone else's thoughts. I obviously don't actually know what it is. Nancy Connecticut, USA On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Devon Thein wrote: > Thanks Joepie. > I feel like Potten Kant is a larger category dealing with different laces > featuring a flower pot design > It does not have any kat stitch or point de Paris > type ground in it. Only linen and half stitch. > > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Thanks Joepie. I feel like Potten Kant is a larger category dealing with different laces featuring a flower pot design. Am I wrong about this? This is a very unusual, to me, lace. It does not have any kat stitch or point de Paris type ground in it. Only linen and half stitch. I canât find it in my books. Devon > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
Hi fellow Arachnids, This is likely to be Potten kant. So called because it features pots of flowers in a very densely worked lace in the Netherlands during the early 1700. Joepie in chilly East Sussex, UK. Subject: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed There is a puzzling piece in our collection. It is a flower basket. The cloth work is dense linen stitch. < >The information, which I am supposed to be reviewing says it is Dutch/Netherlands about 1700. I would like to check this. Can anyone help? Here is the link. https://tinyurl.com/y86ojhpk Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed
There is a puzzling piece in our collection. It is a flower basket. The cloth work is dense linen stitch. The background is entirely half stitch. I KNOW that someone has told me that this is some special, recognizable form of lace. But, I donât recall what they told me. The information, which I am supposed to be reviewing says it is Dutch/Netherlands about 1700. I would like to check this. Can anyone help? Here is the link. https://tinyurl.com/y86ojhpk Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Hardwick Early Lace course Date change
I heard late yesterday that the date of the planned Early Lace course at Hardwick Hall in June this year has had to be brought forward - the room had been double booked. The course will now take place over the weekend of 9/10 June 2018. I'm really sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Gil Dye, tutor - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/