[lace] Lacemaking machines
Hi everyone, I have an unusual request. I am helping a higher degree student with lacemaking for her textile art degree and she is interested in knowing more about the early lacemaking machines. Does anyone know anything? Has anyone seen them in action in museums? I have an idea I have seen discussions on arachne about it before, so I am hoping someone can help her. Thanks, --- Rochelle SutherlandCottons and Bobbins Lacemaking Supplies by Rochelle SutherlandEmail orders: cottonsandbobb...@lacemakingsupplies.com.auWebsite:http://lacemakingsupplies.com.auPhone: 02 6374 2696 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bruges lace
A friend of mine wants to get together with a few people who are working on Bruges lace to form an online study group. Even one person would be great as an accountability partner. Is there anyone working on Bruges who might want to connect with her? It would not suit a raw beginner or someone who is thinking about starting, but would be great for someone who might have started a project and has got stuck. Please let me know if there is anyone out there who would like more information. Thanks, and Merry Christmas all, --- Rochelle Sutherland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Carrickmacross lace
The thread used to couch is cotton and the first wash shrinks it a little to really bed down the couching thread. It is critical to ensure that your couching stitches are horizontal. No lace is particularly durable but with careful washing it will cope with some wear. Also repairs are easily made. There is a special type of scissors with a ballpoint on the lower blade which makes cutting the net impossible, but you still have to worry about cutting the couching stitches. We all hold our breathe when we do the cutting. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (16 yrs), Duncan (14 yrs) and Iain (13 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au I was really puzzled to find out that the thread which is couched down is simply thatjust couched down. I was always of the impression that it would be buttonhole stitched down to prevent the organdie from fraying, although I do realise that organdie does have special properties. My question is this. Is the couching enough to prevent the organdie from working away from the tulle with time? I imagine it should be fine if a piece is to be framed, but what about things like collars and fans that are made for use? I would be grateful for some comments and discussion. Thanks, Karen in Malta. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] lace photos
It is unfortunately not an isolated problem. It is happening in a lot of the creative arts. In defense of the younger ones though, as I'm 40 and have earned my stripes in the business world, I know that sometimes it is difficult to get others to hand over the reins. It is often frustrating to see things slow down but not be allowed to do anything about it. I know it is almost always easier to do it yourself when you have been doing something for some time, but could I encourage everyone to take a younger one under their wing, by force if necessary, and plan for them to succeed you. Please don't see them as a threat or taking over, but as a plan for longevity. It is vital for the survival of our craft and the diversity of creative arts in our societies. New blood and new ideas and sometimes new ways are good things. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (15 yrs), Duncan (13 yrs) and Iain (12 yrs) http://www.houseofhadrian.com.au/ From: J D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com To: Ayla Middleton ayla.p.middle...@gmail.com; Sue Harvey 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com; lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2013 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos Hi Arachnids, Secondly, There seem to be fewer Lace days and fairs in the UK as Sue said. The reason for that is probably not just the fact that people are using the net, but also that the people who used to organise them (and note here that it often has been the same few people taking up the work of putting these things on) tend to be getting a little older. Younger ones may not have the time nor the inclination (No time? Shy? Not feeling 'up to it'?, etc.) to take up the mantle. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] On a practical front
Hi Susan, we use a chalice veil in the Anglican church in much the same way as the Catholic church. The veil is covered by a burse, which is a firm square piece of nowadays card about 15cm square that is covered to match and hinged to make two thicknesses. In the church service/mass, the chalice is set up on the altar already covered by burse and veil, etc by a sacristan (me) or another church official. If it needs to be moved around, it is all packed up and the veil is folded and placed in between the two leaves of the burse. The decoration if any in the middle is covered by the burse. I imagine and have been told in the past, it began as a simple cover to keep the mice, dust and flies out. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (13 yrs), Duncan (12 yrs) and Iain (11 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au From: Susan Reishus elationrelat...@yahoo.com To: Arachne Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012 1:33 AM Subject: [lace] On a practical front Perhaps it was an evolved take on the sheet? Taking it further, perhaps the center circle represented the Omega or a life coming full circle? Would a chalice cover represent a spiritual affinity for a Christ connection in one's blood shed as in the wine being the blood of Christ? Or even as simple as someone having that kind of thing on hand that they made it for the church and what higher honor for their loved one than that (and the circle made a piece more opaque). Someone starts something and it grows in use. Some of it conjecture, but interesting. Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Lace Guild website update
As someone who does a lot of Carrickmacross, I'm delighted that they are talking about the technique. The explanations from the RSN made sense to me immediately, it didn't concern me that the media were chattering away about it without much idea what they were talking about because we have heard that before with other styles of lace. Arguably all styles of lace. To me, the point is the RSN and Carrickmacross lacemakers and teachers have been given a marvellous profile in this. The press release might have just said the lace was appliqued and left it at that. Now there might be an opportunity to build on the interest and get more people doing lace, which after all is what we really need. I'd be interested to know how many hits the Carrickmacross centre site has had since the wedding and whether there are more enquiries about classes. Do we have anyone on Arachne who is involved at Kenmare, or another school? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (13 yrs), Duncan (11 yrs) and Iain (10 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au From: Celtic Dream Weaver celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com To: Jean Leader lacema...@q7design.demon.co.uk Cc: arachne lacing lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Guild website update I found this very interesting to read. My only thought is how right after the wedding people in the media were comparing it to Carrickmacross Lace which it actually isn't. The wedding was so great to watch on TV. I so wish I could have been there but maybe actually watching the wedding in my livingroom I had the best seat in the wedding. I even wore my knock off Kate/Diana look alike ring on. HEHE. I am finding it interesting reading about how the dress was make/how it was displayed. I LOVE all kinds of lace. Makes me think about collecting all kinds of lace and cutting it up to applique on some closes. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 From: Jean Leader lacema...@q7design.demon.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Sent: - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] How do you feel about Restored Bobbins?
I'd like to put in my thoughts about that Brian, not as a bobbin maker but as a house restorer. I see a lot of old houses bought up cheap and extensively renovated to make them into something they are not: the boards stripped with orbital sanders, the kitchens tripled in size and the bathrooms full of glass bricks and steel. If it's your house, by all means do what you like with it, but I call that renovation, not restoration. If however, you want to fix an architrave where a piece has been gouged out of it, you find a matching piece of timber and carefully line it up so it blends into the original, that to me is restoration. If you are careful to keep the patina of age, while at the same time rendering a house or to return to the point, a bobbin, usable and able to be enjoyed for what it is, I think you should be commended. Trouble is, to keep that patina where the surfacing coating is a bit worn or whatever, and to allow the bobbin to look gracefully old once restored would be a very fine line. I too would be interested in the responses to this discussion, and stand beside you in the firing line. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (12 yrs), Duncan (11 yrs) and Iain (10 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au From: Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thu, 20 January, 2011 4:31:01 PM Subject: [lace] How do you feel about Restored Bobbins? I want to write an article in favour of restoring antique lace bobbins, but I am afraid that I might lose too many lovely friends on Arachne if I put it in writing! It was seeing a poorly restored bobbin that got me going! It would have to be done properly and as far as possible historically Now is your opportunity to shoot me down in flames! :) I know about free speech and all that... never-the-less let me know what *you* think. Thanks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Victorian Farm now Scottish jackets
There are a number of different styles of Scottish jacket. The most common is a Prince Charlie, which is very like a normal dinner jacket, but shorter. It's worn with a vest and bow tie and is always black. The other types are single and double breasted variations with or without flaps at the hem including the Montrose, Kenmore and Sherrifmuir. They are worn with jabot and cuffs in lace, and they are made of either black suiting fabric or coloured velvet to match a main colour of the kilt. They are all fitted so it is hard work making them. I have to make two this year for my sons who are highland dancing. Not looking forward to it. A tip for buttons. Instead of sewing, use an awl to punch a hole and push the large shank at the back of the button through the fabric and thread a piece of cord through it long enough to join all buttons. Then just sew either end of the cord at the top and bottom of the front of the jacket. It makes the buttons sit better and you don't lose any, but you have to be careful with the awl not to damage the fabric. One little boy came to a comp last year minus his white shirt. So we found a safety pin, borrowed a strip of lace and folded the lapels of his Prince Charlie up, then covered the front with the lace and he was able to dance. And he beat me.  --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (10 yrs), Duncan (9 yrs) and Iain (7 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au From: Karen Zammit Manduca kaza...@melita.com To: Sue hurwitz...@supanet.com; Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com Cc: Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009 2:55:41 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276 How would you change a suit jacket into a Scottish one? What is so different? Just interested. Karen in Malta Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Carickmacross
My understanding of why you wash after you finish Carrickmacross is that the cotton couching thread shrinks slightly, and it beds down into the couched thread and becomes invisible. It also seals the edges a bit more firmly than before it is washed.  --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (10 yrs), Duncan (8 yrs) and Iain (7 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Adele Shaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jeanette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 19 May, 2008 12:42:46 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Carickmacross All the Carickmacross instructions say to wash the net after the thick thread has been stitched down and silk fabric does not wash well. Is it strictly necessary to wash the piece? I'm wondering *why* they want you to wash it. Can't be for pre-shrinkage, since you've already worked on it. So, I assume it's either for cleanliness or it's some kind of blocking. Some people's hands leave a greyish discolouration on fine whitework; maybe the washing is intended to counteract that. I don't have that problem, so if I do fine white embroidery I don't need to wash for that reason. As for the blocking, that is a personal thing so if you're happy with the way the piece looks and you don't want to do it, don't. On the other hand - when you say silk fabric does not wash well it sounds like a general rule that you've learned, and not something you've discovered through experimenting on this particular cloth. I've had silk dresses you could throw in the washing machine. I happened to have some silk organza sitting right beside me, so just now I cut off a bit and washed it. I ran it under water, rubbed it firmly on a bar of soap, rubbed it with my fingers and rinsed it throughly. Other than a bit of ravelling at the cut edges (no more than would have happened with fine cotton) the silk looks just like it did when I started. So, perhaps you're worrying unnecessarily? Hope this helps. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hand or machine- emerging sensibilities?/judging
I'm a judge in Australia and this is a real problem. The piece is judged overall, so mounting is certainly taken into consideration. You can't know in our competitions if something has been mounted by another person unless you are told by the stewards. They should have asked or be informed when the piece was entered in the show or competition. If we are told we ignore the mounting because it is not the work of the entrant. Otherwise we have to judge it as the whole work. Unless it is heirloom sewing where machine work is accepted by most judges, we favour hand mounting over machine mounting. The biggest problem for us in Australia is patchwork quilts where the quilt has been machine quilted. We have trouble when people don't declare they have sent the quilt to a professional for quilting. Some quilters have long arm quilting machines at home now so we have to give the benefit of the doubt and trust people to be honest. When they have declared it to be professionally quilted, we only judge the patchwork. There are sometimes challenges which can be very unpleasant. As for size, I know small pieces against large pieces is hard, but I do dock pieces hard for mistakes. I once had a crochet tablecloth and although there were no mistakes the tension and starting circles weren't as neat as they could be. I had to give it a lower mark than other smaller pieces. There was a challenge to it, but it comes back to doing something exactly so each time, and if there is one example or thirty there must be that consistancy. I am a hard judge on lace, because I am not swayed by fine thread or big pieces, but most people who have been judged by me haven't had a problem with it. I am able to speak to competitors after judging most competitions with CWA and actively encourage people to challenge or to ask me to rejudge pieces and give them feedback. I really believe in trying to promote excellence and pushing people to try harder each time in a nice way. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (8 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au And in a competition on the continent, would this possibility be taken into account, or do the rules state the lace must be finished by the lacemaker. I can't answer this question but it is an interestin one and I will ask other people here. Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. www.yahoo7.com.au/worldsbestemail - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Both needlelaces, but the stitches are mixed. The tulle areas are tulle stitch from point de gaze. The picot bars are early venetian. The block filling stitches are halas and the diagonal diamond filling stitches and the solid areas are double brussels from venetian gros point. The simple cordonnet is point de gaze. Definately art nouveau style. I think we could all agree they are worked to a very high standard. Lovely pieces. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, 9 August, 2007 4:52:37 PM Subject: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace? Gentle Spiders, On my Campaign for Modern Lace Site at the Arachne Webshots, _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK_ (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK) there have been two new pictures posted. They are the second and third pictures on that album, the first still shows me. I am looking for more information about their origin, who might have designed them, etc. The second one, possibly a collar, looks like it might have been the work of Hrdlicka, although I can't find the specific pattern among the various ones I have seen published. The first, a fan, featuring a woman in medieval hat and peacocks, I haven't a clue about. Both appear to be needlelace. I would be interested in hearing any ideas. Devon ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ___ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Halas lace
This book is a very good manual showing how to work most of the major stitches used in Halas, if not all, and has very clear instructions. I would strongly recommend it to anyone who is interested in learning Halas. With some basic knowledge of needlelace you can work through this book easily. It is available from a number of suppliers in Australia and a few in UK. I have had 25 workshops with the author and am happy to answer any questions anyone has about Halas. If I can't answer them, I can call Marie and ask her. She is not on email unfortunately. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Noelene Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 7:00:22 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Halas lace Shaliz, The Australian book Ilske speaks of is called Hungarian Needlepoint Halas Lace, An Australian Interpretation by Marie Laurie. I don't know if anyone in the USA stocks it. It is available by mail order from Josco Lace Supplies here: email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.joscolace.com.au Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] normally nowhere because the Halas-Lace manufactur is a place where lacemakers work for money. There is a lady in Australia who made a little book about this lace after being in Kishkunhalas. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] re: what is it? object not for tatting
I spoke to Mum last night who did her tailoring certificates. She has used one in the past for opening up seams. It had no handle, you just put your thumb into the holes depending on the angle you needed. Reflex hammers are rubber, I use one regularly in my practise. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the Mouzons [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 May, 2007 8:50:33 PM Subject: Re: [lace] re: what is it? object not for tatting OK... how about that thingie that the doctor taps your knee with to check your reflexes... -- Original message -- From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we need to explore non-sewing uses. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - May 29, 2007 and lace knitting
I read somewhere that you can knit faster and with a more even tension knitting Scottish style so I tried it. Even with needles not quite long enough I could knit nearly a third faster than English style. So guess who is upgrading to long needles. It's the sheaths that interest me because then I could knit standing up while the kids are at soccer practise, etc, without the weight hanging on my arms. And I was really surprised to see the shapes of these knitting sheaths. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2007 8:54:32 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - May 29, 2007 and lace knitting I knit 'Scottish' style with the right needle stuck ynder my arm and the left needle working against the right. I always need long needles however small my piece of knitting, e.g. doll's clothes Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting
Agreed. I think Bev might be on the right track. I seem to recall seeing a 'something' run along a seam while a seamstress was working on a suit. It might have been a school trip demonstration. I was old enough to know about pressing seams and I must have seen the result of the seam opening out. It did have a handle on that sort of angle. It was used on wool suiting, and opened the inside of the seam down the middle. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 May, 2007 8:42:16 AM Subject: Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting No..don't think so. I just checked out several webpages on plannishing hammers. They all refer to working metal with the hammer...and they usually have a flat surface, or just gently curved, to impact the metal surface. Bakelite would not have been the material of choice to work metal, and it's shaped wrong. I think we have to look elsewhere for the answer. Thanks to Terry for trying, though!! Alice in Oregon --- Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he said - it's a plannishing hammer, minus the handle. Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything hard, but as it's very small it could just be intended for tapping something gently ??? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - is now knitting sheath
Yes, that is more what I was expecting, long thin cylinders, but as I type I wonder if that is only the tip that we can see and the main shape is hidden . I just assumed that they were long and thin to stick into the belt or the tie of the apron. The ones on the auction site were unusual shapes. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rochelle Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 May, 2007 10:07:15 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - is now knitting sheath Here is a link to the story of knitting in the Dales, E. Yorkshire - on this page there is a picture of the knitting sheath in use. The knitter appears to be making a sock :) http://www.daelnet.co.uk/features/knitting/history5.htm I tried a google search for a maker of authentic knitting tools - for Rochelle, wouldn't one in a select Australian native wood be lovely! - I didn't find a source immediately though. On 5/14/07, Rochelle Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read somewhere that you can knit faster and with a more even tension knitting Scottish style so I tried it. Even with needles not quite long enough I could knit nearly a third faster than English style. So guess who is upgrading to long needles. It's the sheaths that interest me because then I could knit standing up while the kids are at soccer practise, etc, without the weight hanging on my arms. And I was really surprised to see the shapes of these knitting sheaths. -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - May 29, 2007 and lace knitting
Thanks for putting this site up, Jeri. I love wading through it. Imagine working there. I do have a question out there for the knitters, especially the lace knitters. On the auction site for their March sale, lot 256, they have some carved wooden knitting sheaths. These are nothing like I imagined a knitting sheath for shetland lace kntting and general knitting on long needles. Can anyone explain what they are and why they are shaped that way? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (9 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2007 2:14:09 AM Subject: [lace] Kerry Taylor Auctions - May 29, 2007 Dear Lacemakers, Some of you enjoy looking at the auction offerings of this company. I've stripped out a lot of commercial content, but given enough information for you to follow-up. http://www.kerrytaylorauctions.com/ Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center Our forthcoming sale is now available to view on our website, complete with pictures. Vintage Fashion, Accessories, Textiles Fans including the Margaret Little fan collection, approximately 250 lots including fashion 1840s-1980s with a large selection of accessories including hats and bags, designers include early, Ossie Clark, Givenchy, Zandra Rhodes, Jean Varon, lace, textiles, trimmings Tuesday, May 29th at 10.30am . ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace
I thought Hollie point was much further down in England. My understanding was Southern England, but I can stand corrected. I am actually a needlelacer by preference, so I have done Hollie point, enjoyed it, sort of. Bit fine and and two dimensional for me, but a nice change every so often. As an aside, am I correct in thinking that the only quilting near Scotland was Durham quilting, and that crochet didn't have much input at all? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: beth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 7:28:50 PM Subject: Re: [lace]Scottish Lace There's Hollie Point needlelace as well as the various laces mentioned. Still not much bobbin lace but, as has been said, if the local skills were with the needle(s) - lace knitting, fine embroidery - why would they bother to take up a completely different craft (particularly one that needed more and completely different equipment)? Beth in a frosty Cheshire, NW England (even our very sheltered back yard got down below zero last night, which rarely happens) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace
Hi Jean and spiders, I forgot you were in Glasgow. What a pity they had a pillow there but in such a state. I got upset years ago about the state of some beautiful Aryshire baby's bonnets in our local museum and made complaint. They promptly handed me the job and I've been there ever since. Good thing you didn't speak up, they would have collared you too. Interesting the continental influence in Pitsligo. Wasn't that bit late for the migrations of lacemakers from Europe? I thought there were a few 'waves' of migration of lacemakers but much earlier than that. Does anyone know any more about that, or am I wrong? I'm also wondering, as people turn out deceased estates, whether we might find some examples of it now that were not available previously. Maybe by promoting the type, it might be more easily recognised. Can't wait to hear about Ballantrae, I guess it's the UK Guild mag? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Jean Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 10:05:29 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace I've visited Hamilton Museum (it's not far from Glasgow). It has lace pillows and bobbins (all of the typical English Midlands type) and some lace but only one piece that is said to be Hamilton lace. I took Jeri Ames there back in 2002 and we were both very unhappy with the scrambled mess on the lace pillow, enough to put anyone off lacemaking, but I haven't been back since. Over ten years ago I tried to follow up the references about Scottish lace that Mrs Palliser quotes but got nowhere. My feeling is that any bobbin lacemaking in Scotland was probably of the 'opportunistic' type - when lace sold well someone set up a 'lace industry' but when the slump came (as it always did) the lacemaking faded away. I'm not quite sure why it survived in New Pitsligo - perhaps because it was taught in the school there as part of the normal curriculum. This is what I wrote about New Pitsligo lace in an article about Scottish lace for a German lace magazine: In the nineteenth century lacemaking developed as a cottage industry in New Pitsligo, a village in north-eastern Aberdeenshire. It is uncertain who introduced lacemaking but it was encouraged by the minister, Rev.W.Webster who came to the village in 1841. He helped to improve the standard of the lace by bringing in teachers, compiled a specimen book and also found buyers for the lace including Queen Victoria. A report on Scottish Home Industries (1895) says that in the summer 50-60 and in the winter 150-160 persons are engaged in making lace. Women giving pretty steady attention to the work should make from 4s. to 5s. a week. The report is illustrated and includes a picture of a New Pitsligo lacemaker working at a bolster pillow outside her cottage. The lace was mainly Torchon, worked with the footside on the left indicating a continental influence, but there were local names for the patterns such as Lady's Fan, Jumpin Jecks and Ox-eye. The workers also referred to the movements of the bobbins as knit and twist instead of the more usual cross and twist. Lace is still made in New Pitsligo but now only as a hobby. And Rochelle, there is another Scottish lace - Ballantrae lace - but you'll have to wait for the July issue of 'Lace'. Now back to all the things on my list (this wasn't). Jean in Glasgow, Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scottish Lace -New Pitsligo -long
Thank you one and all, this has been really interesting. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 February, 2007 3:39:30 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Scottish Lace -New Pitsligo -long This is what is written in a report of which I have a copy (obtained by inter-library loan) titled Scottish Home Industries: An Account Written by Provost Alexander Ross of Inverness in 1895. Scottish Home Industries Association was formed at the end of the last century to work at traditional crafts. The Association arranged for the sale of these products in London and ensured a fair return for the work. ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Innismacsaint lace
I have three pages of information on Innishmacsaint in a book Victorian Needlework : techniques and design, Flora Klickmann (ed) ISBN 0 486 42154 6. It gives you a pattern of a flounce that you could repeat if you wanted to, as well as instructions that are enough for a person who was doing needlelace all the time. Others might struggle with it. It is not as 'stiff' and formal as Venetian gros point, being a copy, but I think it's charming. It's something I've always wanted to do, will get there one day. I've always wondered, why weren't there any Scottish laces? Were my ancestors too busy spinning and weaving to get to lace making? Or did the Scots do Beds and Bucks and torchons? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 11:50:08 AM Subject: [lace] Innismacsaint lace As I understand it, Innismacsaint lace is a type on Needlelace that looks like the Venetian Gros Point - but the Irish lacemakers used many more different filling stitches. However, It has the raised cordonette of the Gros Point. I have not been able to find out very much about it - just the odd reference here or there, and a couple of photos of the lace. Regards from Liz in Very hot Melbourne, Oz, where it is expected to reach 38°C ( around 100°F) today. (Yuk!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace
Pitsligo I have heard of and am trying to track down now that I've been reminded of it. The search I just did on Hamilton hasn't turned up any pictures, but it has revealed that the Hamilton lace was popular and that commoners and ladies alike made it. That died out, as things seem to, only to be replaced by a sort of ' tambour bobbinette' that surged to popluarity and was everywhere for a few years. If anyone can shed any light on that type of lace, I would like to know more about it too. That's potentially three Scottish laces, besides the Aryshire work and lace knitting. Thanks one and all. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 2:25:18 PM Subject: Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace About 4 yrs. ago I did a search for Scottish lace info when I was asked by the local Scottish Games people to demonstrate at the games. There was not much to be found, although a University in Mississippi has some books on Scottish hand crafts. Hamilton Lace seems to be named for the Duchess of Hamilton who organized a charitable school in the 18th C. (see Dictionary of Lace by Earnshaw). There was also a small 'home lace industry' in New Pitsligo. The only patterns or pictures I have seen are defiantly Torchon style and quite course and very open. Earnshaw states: Scottish Lace There were no commercial centres for lacemaking in Scotland, and lace does not even appear to have been worn in any quantity. There are references in the sixteenth centruy only to pearling, to 'cuttit out work' and to lacis as made by Mary Queen of Scots during her long imprisonment. The cobwebby knitted laces of the Shetland marriage shawls can be traced back to the 1840s and Scotland was noted for its beautiful Ayrshire work. I would still be interested in any further information on Scottish laces. There is a web site (a newspaper I think) with an article about New Pitsligo lace-making. see http://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asp There is also a booklet Lace-making in Hamilton by Jessie H Lochhead, M.A., published by? 'Hamilton Public Libraries and Museum Committee 1971' The copy I got on inter-library loan came from the Univ. of Chicago Library. The Canadian Lacemaker Gazette Vol. 13 No 3 had an article on New Pitsligo Lace by Sandi Milliken with a pricking of the pattern Bird's Eye with a diagram by Bev Walker. Margaret Merner was kind enough to send me a copy at the time I ask here on Arachne about Scottish laces. In 2004, I was told Sandi had taught a class on the New Pitsligo lace at IOLI in the mid 1990s, had planned to write a book about it but became ill and died in 2002. In 1993, Sandi and Trish Fisher (WV) had made a trip to New Pitsligo, staying 2 weeks with a local lacemaker/teacher. Trish states New Pitsligo lace IS much like Torchon but has it's own special rules and quirks. Lorri Graham, WA USA ___ Web email has come of age. Don't settle for less than the All New Yahoo! Mail http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace in fashion
Anyone who wants one, I'll design it, no problem. No bobbin lace, I'm not that clever. I love the new lace fashions and am wearing them to the max. --- Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bags (purses) being the hot fashion item this year, one of us ought to come up with a design for a lace bag. -- Aurelia Browsing through my Harper's Bazaar that arrived today (DH got the subscription free for me - likeI'm a fashion plate!!), I saw that Burberry have a lace overcoat and a lace skirt in their ad, not to my taste. The top with the skirt has crochet collar and cuffs. Then on page 130 entitled Dark Romance it says moody lace and tulle are making a comeback The lace items include a dress, skirt, Louis Vuitton clutch bag ($12,800) and black lace covered shoes with very high heels by Christian Louboutin ($570). Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Needlelace theory
Dear All, I agree with both types from what I have seen in my museum, but I wondered if it was just the level of skill in my country area, where people were mainly concerned with surviving the elements. The crochetting and knitted lace though are amazing. (Also in line with the country of origin of the people who settled here, mainly anglo saxon.) I wonder if our desire for uniformity in tension has stifled the charm of old fashioned lace? Maybe we are too exact, and produce work with the precision of machines? And are either of those things good things for lace in general? Have we lost some diversity along the way? Is evolution of lace and other handicrafts a good thing? I'm not sure I agree about the fine thread being the problem. I think maybe time constraints were part of it. Where we would pull out a row and do it again, they might not have had time to do it. And we can stop when we feel tired, they were often working very long hours, and may have had to milk or knead dough or other heavy hands-on chores before lacing. They simply may not have had the power and control left in their hands. It's the control that gives you the tension with needlelace, not so much the seeing, because if you were not able to see the bundles of stitches clearly you would be putting the needle in anywhere and the piece would be full of mistakes, not just wobbly. I have thought too that some of my museum pieces have suffered from shrinkage of the foundation threads and tapes over the years, and that has taken some of the tension off, making the fillings go wobbly. Wish this fog would go away. Heartily tired of winter. Rochelle. --- Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that's true of BL too. If you take a piece of fine, old lace, photograph and enlarge it and compare to similar but coarser, well made modern lace you nearly always find that the modern stuff is neater - even allowing for the fact that the old lace may have been washed a number of times. Brenda On 26 Jul 2006, at 19:07, Alice Howell wrote: I heard a comment recently that I wanted to put before this group. Modern needlelacers are better needlelacers than the ones in the past. The reason was that we are using thread that is large enough to see each stitch, so we strive to make the stitches very precise, neat and uniform. The workers who made lace with the very tiny thread in the past could not see the individual stitches and thus did not make them as neatly. It was the masses of stitches in a cluster that was seen. Comments please. What do you experienced needlelacers say to this? Alice in Oregon -- getting ready for a newspaper interview tomorrow. And then the marathon of county fair. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemaking and RSIs
Dear All, I absolutely agree with Jane, because I too am a physiotherapist. Can I just add one warning? Pilates as taught properly is very good for you, but a lot of people teaching 'Pilates' are teaching a watered down version a best and many people are getting injured in such classes. A Pilates teacher should have qualifications, it is a long course, and if they can't show you a certificate or some proof, be very wary. Imbalance in the trapezius muscles is very common and can be easily avoided by pulling the shoulder blades down and in as Jane described and having regular breaks from your lacemaking. There is a great little book out called Rx for Quilters, Susan Delany Mech, 2000, ISBN 1-57120-092-4. Okay, we're not quilters, but it gives you so much information about posture, common injuries and exercises, it is well worth it. --- Jane Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, folks. Forgive me for lurking on the ether for some months without making a contribution to Arachne, having joined after I got back from America, but you usually cover a subject in depth without needing any addition from me. However, something caught my eye when I turned on my computer this morning, having just been up to plant seedlings on my allotment on a nice, soggy day. The comment was: I hadn't realized lace making could be so tough on the body. Well, as someone who's suffered a fair share of RSI, and torn shoulders - not all of it, but some of it, caused by lacemaking - I think I can say that lacemaking is tough on the body, as we often use the wrong muscles. Two physiotherapists commented when working on me that the muscles in my back were out of balance - the ones that should operate the arms are the lower traps (trapesius, I think) below the shoulder blade, but the strong ones in my shoulders were the upper traps across the top. I was given exercises to retrain them, and the thing that sorted out my RSI was good posture; when we lean over a lace pillow, we automatically use the wrong muscles when we shift our weight forwards. Luckily, one of the physios was a close friend, and I asked her if there were some exercises I could do to keep myself in good shape, and she recommended Pilates. This establishes core stability around the waist and exercises and stretches individual muscles so that, if you persevere, everything should work right. I did it for quite a while before other life got in the way, and will go back to it when I can. In the meanwhile, I use the allotment to exercise the muscles that I don't use in lacemaking. As someone coming in for arthritis, too, I had a long session last year with an occupational therapist, and she saw the allotment as a good way of exercising 'gross motor' muscles - when I get up there in the Spring and start clearing weeds and building compost, I do feel so much better for it. And it's useful and satisfying exercise - my edible Pilates. What it doesn't exactly help with are the arthritic hands - but you can't have everything. There I was told to cut my work load by half; pretty well impossible although I did cut out one or two things that others could do. Stand straight and tall, and put one hand on the other shoulder so you can feel the muscles; then lift up the free arm and see if you can feel the muscles moving. You shouldn't, really! Pilates will teach you to engage the lower traps by holding your shoulder blades down, releasing the tension in the upper muscles. I have arrived at a Lace Guild Convention in upper back agony, which I put down to hefting heavy teaching bags using under-used muscles. You do have to keep fit for lacemaking; and for the travel that comes as a lovely bonus (a recent trip to the 10th International Vamberk Festival really showed that, as a stressful journey was followed by a migraine, not something I usually suffer from. There, I was fortunate in sharing a room with a skilful masseuse, who soon put me right - but that is not something one can normally rely on!). All I can say is: if you want to keep lacemaking, keep fit. While I'm on, I've wanted to report that I've just updated my website, lace.nildram.co.uk, with a report under 'feedback' on my teaching trip to Chicago and Philadelphia in the Spring. And having just written about Vamberk for a web magazine, I guess I'd better do something about that, too - just have to get some lace made first. Best wishes to you all, and thanks for fascinating reading, Jane Atkinson - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au
Re: [lace] Re: 8 Times its Weight in Gold
Dear Joyce, I think I can place the time that that was the price of lace. It was in Europe, and around the era when lace was resticted to being worn by the upper classes only, particularly around France and Venice, I think (mid-late 18th c). I am not sure that it applied to bobbin lace, I have an idea it was needlelace. The taxes were imposed on it prevented the lower classes from purchasing it, and the workers saw practically none of it, because it all went into the coffers of the country. It's part of the reason why lacemakers were prevented from leaving the country they worked in, they produced too valuable a commodity. I'm dragging this out of a ten year old memory bank so if anyone can add to it, please do. It also gets to me a bit that we are such highly skilled workers, and yet our product is worth a pittance, when others charge like wounded bulls. Think about your last haircut, the hairdresser only spent a short amount of time with you and yet you paid her more than most of us would be able to sell a product that took a full days work. It doesn't seem right to me. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace in fashion, my porcelain lace
--- Cherry Knobloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The model on the cover is actress Penelope Cruz. I thought so. Is she getting married in it, or is she modelling one of a selection? Has anyone got the mag or flicked through it to see? There might be more...even more 'exceptional'...examples of lace cut-outs... --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace in fashion
Wow, there's a design feature I hadn't considered. I'm not sure it's flattering even on the best figure. I think from the tiny pic I saw on the website that Patty could be right. --- Patricia Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Spiders, Yeah, I have seen the cover. It looks to be some kind of needle lace concoction. There may be tapes, a la Battenberg, but it is relatively coarse. It does, however seem to be handmade. Patty ... to wear to the banquet at the next lace event?! On the cover of the February 'Marie Claire' - a beautiful young woman wears a lace-backed dress (note, some interpretation on the term 'back'). I saw it in passing at the grocery checkout, then went to the marieclaire-dot-com site - go to current issue to see a small picture of the cover. Something then went haywire with my browser and it shutdown - must have been the 'back' - but, my, what an interesting way to use lace as part of a garment. If someone else has seen the magazine cover, perhaps they could comment on the style of lace? -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals: It's free to check out our great singles! http://au.personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace in fashion
I'm with you, Bev. I think it's quite something. And with a good dance partner would look really something on the dance floor. I'm assuming she can swing her hips when she dances. --- bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to worry Clay, I for one value your opinion even if it isn't the same as mine at the moment. I still think the dress is rather fetching on the right person - and to be practical, it is quite something to admire from the back - which is where a lot of people would be viewing the bride, during the ceremony, --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7 yrs), Duncan (6 yrs) and Iain (5 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] cleaning laces
In Australia, we can buy a solid soap called 'Sunlight' which is recommended for textiles conservation. The UK conservators are apparently able to buy a liquid with the same composition, but a different name. --- Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Carolina, When I am washing my laces I use a washing powder I could only get in this shop where thay sell only natural things. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace without a corner
I got back to Viv off list but thought I would wade in after all. The simplest way, which may not appeal to everyone I admit, is to have gathered corners, and you only need to make the length of each side, and a bit extra to make sure the lace will go around the corners sitting flat. Just another option from a knitted lace person where we don't have corners on edgings. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Take your Mail with you - get Yahoo! Mail on your mobile http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] drawn-thread handkerchief... #2
Wow, beautiful. By it's size I would say cloth as opposed to hanky. The patterns are very like the sol lace patterns from further south, meditterrean area, early last century off the top of my head. Correst me if I'm wrong. So Edwardian is probably right, Scandinavian is doubtful. --- Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try THIS one... http://tinyurl.com/bs79k And, in case that one doesn't work, the item number for the auction is... 6246335686 Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] drawn-thread handkerchief... #2
Please disregard spelling mistakes. Trying not to burn dinner. --- Rochelle Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, beautiful. By it's size I would say cloth as opposed to hanky. The patterns are very like the sol lace patterns from further south, meditterrean area, early last century off the top of my head. Correst me if I'm wrong. So Edwardian is probably right, Scandinavian is doubtful. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News: Get the latest news via video today! http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] drawn-thread handkerchief... #2
--- Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a piece of drawn thread embroidery which looks very similar, though mine is salmon pink with linen with cream embroidery. It has the same circles and crosses and zig-zag diagonal footedge. my instinctive feeling is that it's from the Mediterranean area. Yes, it is. I have seen them in those colours and in white on white. The big crosses are the give away. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE:drawn thread handkerchief
The fabric certainly looks light enough. --- Helen Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it be a pall cloth? Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thistle bookmark
I replied to this but I think it went direct to celticdreamweave, (sorry, I'm still learning the system). I would be interested in seeing the thistle bookmark made up in white or colours. It may even convert me to bobbinlace. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (7yrs), Duncan (6yrs) and Iain (5yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
