Re: [lace] Soie Ovale

[suebabbs385]

Hi Susan

I have personally never been keen on working bobbin lace (or needle-lace
or embroidery) with "floss-type" silk, so am not a good person to say if
its useful.  Here's my two-pence worth:

I've sent you a photo of a spool of Soie Ovale (I didn't have the time
to upload it to Flickr).  I have only used it for needle lace.  It is
flattish in appearance, not a round twisted silk.  It is diabolically
hard to work in Illinois winters when the interior of houses are drier
than the Sahara - and so are one's hands.  It catches on any rough
patches of skin and "fluffs" out unattractively. So one's hands need
frequent applications of handcream - and then time spent waiting so as
not to put oil on the silk which dulls its appearances or you end up
smelling of apple vinegar on the days you are using it, as the apple
vinegar does help smooth the hands (Weird, I know).


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Re[2]: [lace] Another--Zippier!----ClippyKit sample

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I love the effects of alternating the colours in the passives, thus 
making it easy to get each worker to be of the desired colour.   I 
expect you'll get quite different effects depending on the colours you 
choose  eg pink and red would be more subtle than the vibrant yellow and 
red.  I wonder if you would get the stripes looking a muddy brown if you 
used complementary colours, or if they wouldn't blend that much.  More 
experiments for you when you've survived the Binche memory curve!


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Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

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Apparently both Pierre and Dagmar achieved writing an email to arachne!
Yes, it's as simple as writing an email to lace@arachne.com

However as you have noted, we are limited to text (not even French
accents on Pierre's surname come through) and cannot post photos / pdfs
etc.

I have no idea how the transition to another platform would work, so
cannot comment on that.  However I think the list has lost a lot of
vibrancy over recent years as many members now show patterns,
work-in-progress etc on Facebook instead of on Arachne. It would
certainly be wonderful to be able to include photos etc in one's
messages

Sue

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From: "Dagmar Beckel Machyckova" 
To: "Pierre Fouché" 
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Sent: 4/2/2020 9:38:39 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Our mail list software

>Pierre, I do agree with you. I wouldn’t know how to start a post.
>How could the transition work?
>Is it a lot of work to move the archives?
>Dagmar Beckel
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Re: [lace] Nancy Neff

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Nancy's page now says:
"Sorry everybody. Now you've seen my junk room! I'm trying to figure out
how to share a video with my church group -- didn't think I had
notifications on... ignore all that. I'm fine. Just holding the phone
oddly as I look some things up. Sorry to worry anyone."

Sue

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-- Original Message --
From: "Anna Binnie" 
To: "Arachne" 
Sent: 3/14/2020 8:08:16 AM
Subject: [lace] Nancy Neff

>Hi all is there anyone who lives close to Nancy or knows her physical address
or phone number. There was an odd posting on Facebook minutes ago and she may
have had a fall.
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Fw: Re: [lace] Question

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Thanks for that Agnes.  I am forwarding your message to Arachne.  The
links I sent give an address at 392 The Strand, London, so I guess
Urling's had shops in multiple countries

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From: "Agnes Boddington" 
To: suebabbs...@gmail.com
Sent: 3/14/2020 6:34:31 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Question

Hello Maria Greil and Sue
Tried to send my reply to Arachne, but email bounced.
Urling's was a shop in Germany that sold (amongst other things) lace.
So it is not a type of lace, but  probably machine made lace curtains
etc.
Agnes Boddington

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Re: [lace] Question

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I had never heard of it before, but an internet search came up with
these (and similar), which makes it look as if Urling's was a shop in
London:

https://sotherans.co.uk/products/lace-an-original-engraved-advertisement-for-
urlings-lace

https://www.biblio.com/book/promotional-material-urlings-flaxen-thread-lace/d
/923266813

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-- Original Message --
From: "Maria Greil" 

>Can anybody help me ?
>I just read an article in an old magazine (The Ladies' Monthly Museum,
>August 1822, pg. 109 - The Mirror of Fashion) and a kind of lace is
>mentioned several times I do not know: *Urling's lace*.
>Since the publication is English and there are a lot of arachne-members
>from the UK, would it be possible that someone from there could tell me?
>Lots of thanks in advance for your kind support.
>
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Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

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If she is making bobbin lace, it's on a giant pillow!

Sue

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Mestiza de Valles texiendo trensilla. This seems to mean Mestizo woman weaving
braid. Does this show a woman making bobbin lace? What do people think about
this?
Here is the link:

http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/trujillo-del-peru--volumen-ii/html
/966bf129-a181-4dd1-996b-ac44db7844e2_110.html


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Re[2]: [lace] Miniature lace pillow

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With her permission, I have uploaded Joeanna's miniature lace pillow
photos to Flickr for you all the see. The dimensions are one and a half
inch by one and a half inch. The bobbins are 9/16” without spangle and
3/4 “ with the spangle. It was a fun project but my eyes were a little
better back then🤣. Thanks again for the interest. I have a spinning
wheel in the works but haven’t done much with it lately.

Sue
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Re: [lace] Hoping for a better translation

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It's Danish.  Try "bleached linen"   On the last page "hørtrad" is
translated linen thread.

Thanks for the laugh!

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Re[2]: [lace] Hoping for a better translation

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P.S. Translations are on pages 30-31 of my copy

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[lace] Re: Flickr Pro subscriptions met

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Sorry there was a typo in this.  We are now paid up for the period
through 15 April 2022

Sue

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Sent: 1/24/2020 9:41:12 AM
Subject: Flickr Pro subscriptions met

>Arachneans have stepped up to cover the costs of our subscription to
>Flickr Pro for the next 2 years.
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[lace] Flickr Pro subscriptions met

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Arachneans have stepped up to cover the costs of our subscription to
Flickr Pro for the next 2 years.  We are now paid up for the period
through 15 April 2020.

Thank you to the following for their contributions:

Bev Walker
Nancy Neff
Brian Lemin
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Rosemary Horr
Maria Greil
Laura Sandison
Barbara Filippone


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Re[2]: [lace] Unsubscribe help

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Oops, sorry, I have just spotted an album for you, which was out of
alphabetical order - hence my missing it.

There is one photo of a lovely star with candle in it.  I'll remove it
if you really want me to , but equally well it is a lovely pice of lace
and I would be happy to keep it on the Flickr site.  Your choice!

Sue

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Re: [lace] Unsubscribe help

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I don't know why Avital isn't answering.  Maybe she is travelling or
busy.  I am bcc-ing her on this message in case yours isn't reaching her
for some reason.

To unsubscribe from  lace you have to write an email to
majord...@arachne.com

from the subscribed address (clearly a-...@telia.com in the case of
lace@arachne)

The subject line must be
unsubscribe lace m...@telia.com 


I think lace-chat will be similare, i.e. to unsubscribe from  lace-chat
you have to write an email to majord...@arachne.com

from the subscribed address (clearly a-...@telia.com in the case of
lace@arachne)

The subject line must be
unsubscribe lace-chat m...@telia.com 

I don't think you have to put anything in the body of the email, but as
some servers reject emails without anything in the body you could repeat
the subject line!

I have checked Arachne's flickr account, and didn't see an album for you
there, so I guess you have removed any photos you put up
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/albums

Sue

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Sent: 1/23/2020 2:50:10 AM
Subject: [lace] Unsubscribe help

>I have tried several times to unsubscribe from but it
>doesn’t work and Arachne moderator doesn’t reply. Could someone
please
>unsubscribe for me and also remove my ploto from flickr?
>
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[lace] Important changes to Flickr Pro subscriptions

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As you all know, we now subscribe to Flickr Pro for the storage of our
photos.  Flickr's prices are going up to $59.99 + tax for the annual
plan or $117.99 + tax for the two year plan.  Last year we paid $49.99
for the year, in April 2019.

The offer I have received today from Flickr gives us the chance to renew
at last year's prices, and makes it clear that  they will extend the
term of our current Pro subscription, so I have decided to go ahead and
renew.  I have chosen to subscribe for 2 years at a total cost of
$100.29 incl tax.  This will keep our photos stored until April 15 2022.

Various Arachne members offered to help share the cost when we next
renewed and asked me to let them know when I next paid, so I am doing
so!It would be great if we could find 20 Arachneans who would like
to pay $5 each to cover this.  Please email me if you want to help pay
for our photo storage

Sue

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Subject: Notice: Important changes to Flickr Pro subscriptions

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Re[2]: [lace] Agnes Herzog work

[suebabbs385]

Thank you for confirming that!

Sue

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T


She does paint it with a brush.
Devon

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Re: [lace] Agnes Herzog work

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Does anyone know how she achieves the colours within her designs? It 
almost looks from the photos as if she works mostly in white and then 
paints the threads.  It is hard to see how she achieves the effects she 
does any other way - but that may be limited mind looking at the 
pictures and trying to understand how she does it!


Sue

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https://mymodernmet.com/lace-art-agnes-herczeg/



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[lace] Upcoming Workshops with Pierre Fouché in UK and USA

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Pierre Fouché is once again coming to teach in the UK and USA.  I was in
one of his classes at the Hunterdon Art Museum last year - and it was
wonderful.  He is a great teacher and a very inspiring artist and
lacemaker.

He will be teaching the following:


BOBBIN LACE DESIGN: PAINTING WITH GROUNDS:

June 13-14 2020.  Christchurch, Dorset, UK. Contact person for details
and bookings: Jane Atkinson (j...@contemporarylace.com)

June 18-19 2020. Northfield IL, US. Details and booking: Sue Babbs
(suebabbs...@gmail.com)

June 27-28 2020. Hunterdon Art Museum, Clinton, NJ, US. Details and
booking:  Hunterdonartmuseum.org







BOBBIN LACE DESIGN: CREATIVE CLOTH STITCH (AND THE BINCHE ALGORITHM)

July 11-12 2020. The Lace Museum, Sunnyvale, CA, US. Details and
booking:  Kim Davis (k...@wirelace.net) [Please note that this course is
a repeat of the content presented in 2019 at the Hunterdon Museum]

A NOTE ABOUT TUITION FEES:

Please note that each venue will charge a different tuition fee. I
believe all knowledge should be free so I am teaching pro-bono with all
tuition costs contributing to travel and host venue expenses alone. With
each host having different needs, some private individuals, others
cultural institutions, this leads to varying tuition fees. If you can
afford to attend the more expensive workshops, please do. You'll be
contributing the the preservation of lace culture and fine institutions
that support our craft. I also encourage you, however, to keep your
carbon footprint as low as possible by travelling to your nearest venue.
I am really looking forward to meeting you!


You can see more about Pierre on : http://www.pierrefouche.net

I would highly recommend these classes!

Sue

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Re[2]: [lace] advise on altering a Binch design

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I am away from a pillow to try this out, but I think it will work if you
hang 4 pairs round the left corner pin.

1 pair goes horizontally across the top and then becomes the right
footside outer pair
1 pair does the vertical left  footside outer pair
The 2 inner pairs then cross - and one goes horizontally to the right
corner (and then vertically down as the outer passive pair on the right
side); and one goes vertically down (the outer passive pair on the left
side)

When you reach the right corner, add 2 pairs.  Work these through the
horizontal pair which has come from the left corner; then cross them -
one goes horizontally to the left corner (and then vertically down as
the inner passive pair on the left side); and the other goes vertically
down (the inner passive pair on the right side)

Hope this works!  It does in my head!!
Sue

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-- Original Message --
From: "jo" 
To: "Arachne" 
Sent: 1/11/2020 12:37:24 PM
Subject: RE: [lace] advise on altering a Binch design

>Hello Spiders
>
>The bobbins are wound to start this project. Nobody noticed, at least did
>not notify me, that the false foot side is an impossible one. The second
>horizontal pair goes up in both corners. Now I also see the added extra
>(bold) pins have different ways of working. I'm curious which variation is
>recommended by Binche experts.
>
>For those wo forgot/missed the subject:
>https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg53985.html
>
>Jo
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Re: [lace] Re: Pewter in bobbins

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I find my bone bobbins are heavier than the wooden ones, so don't mix 
the two in projects


Sue

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-- Original Message --
From: "J Reardon" 
To: "Arachne" 
Sent: 1/5/2020 8:28:33 AM
Subject: [lace] Re: Pewter in bobbins


So sorry. Auto correct changed my subject from “pewter in” to “pestering”. I’ve 
corrected it here so it will index properly.

Brian has kindly replied that there’s not much difference in weight with pewter 
added.

Jean Reardon, western Pennsylvania


 On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:41 PM, J Reardon  wrote:

 Thank you, Brian, for making your bobbin photos and comments available to us. 
I used the link and the first examples I saw were pewter enhanced. There’s been 
a question rumbling in my mind for a while about the pewter. Does it add 
noticeably to the weight of the bobbin? I see they are also spangled, which 
adds weight, so I’m guessing the answer is no.

 I’ve been frustrated with the large area taken up by bobbins and would love to 
find something the size of a honiton bobbin but much heavier for use with 
threads like Oliver Twist, Finca 12, etc. Might that be why the pewter was 
added?

 Jean Reardon, in dreary western Pennsylvania. I wish I could send our never 
ending rain your way.


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Re: [lace] Google photos sharing link

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Thank you for sharing your wonderful photos.  I will certainly enjoy 
looking at them


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From: brid...@bigpond.com
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: 1/4/2020 8:30:34 PM
Subject: [lace] Google photos sharing link


I choose google photos.



It has scared me rather as  Google appears to have a copy of every photo I
have taken and every image I have created!  I suppose I did not handle the
process properly, but I am not too worried about it.



I have discovered that apparently I can share a  Album with you.  I presume
if you click on it will take you there:



https://photos.app.goo.gl/vstK8ADx3qo3KtRc6



This is my "Lace Making Bobbin Album" and it contains almost 1500 pictures,
the large majority of which are annotated and in Postcard format.  These are
the pictures in the physical albums I want to get rid of, as mentioned in my
earlier post.



I have been doing this for years and whilst I think my comments are mostly
accurate I have made a few blunders over the years, particularly in my
earlier times when I really knew hardly anything about these wonderful
tools.



I hope this works and you may share the  link with others.



I also need to say a special thank you to Arachne members who will have
contributed to these pictures either with a single bobbin or perhaps sharing
with me your whole collection.



I see this as an educational database and putting on record a selection of
Lace making bobbins that people may not ordinarily see.



Essentially this is an ANTIQUE /VINTAGE bobbin collection and I would like
it to remain so.  Having said that I believe that modern bobbin makers and
bobbin decorators make beautiful bobbins and very collectable bobbins; but
this is not the place for them.



So, fingers crossed it will work.





Many thanks for the suggestions.  Sorry no prize for the  person who
suggested Google!  Smile.



Regards

Brian, who is still fortunately is not threatened by fires.






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Re[2]: [lace] Question of the Show

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Thank you, Clay!!

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Re: [lace] Question of the show

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Good suggestion!  But no!!

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Subject: [lace] Question of the show


You weren't working on leaf tallies at the time, were you? ;-)
That does take the cake!
Lorraine




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[lace] Question of the Show

[suebabbs385]

I have been demonstrating lacemaking at the Fine Art of Fiber, Chicago 
Botanic Garden for the last three days and am awarding this year's Prize 
for the Most Unusual Question early as I doubt that anyone can top it! 
It goes to the lady who asked, "Did you really say you were making 
lice?"


I know I don't have an American accent, but really what a question!

Sue Babbs

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Re: [lace] Railway Bobbin

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I think you are absolutely right, Brian.  They are very similar to the 
drawings of early trains which I have seen.  Well done!

Sue

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[lace] Re: [lace] Lady Carnarvon’s coronation gown

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Thanks for alerting us to that Susan.  The video is on YouTube at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybMoUBRjHpc
The outfit was worn by the Countess of Carnavon at the Coronation of
George V in 1911

More can be read at
https://royal-needlework.org.uk/lady-carnarvons-coronation-robe/  and
https://www.ladycarnarvon.com/the-coronation-robes/
Sue

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-- Original Message --
From: "Susan" 
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: 8/2/2019 8:35:42 AM
Subject: [lace] Lady Carnarvon’s coronation gown

>Hello All! I’ve just received the latest newsletter from RSN & they are
conserving this 1911 gown. There is a short video & some photos showing the
ivory lace, jeweled lace & white fur trimmed claret velvet garment. I’m not
sure about the lace so perhaps an expert will comment?? In the meantime, I
will try to post photos to Flickr. Sincerely, Susan Hottle FLA USA
>
>Sent from my iPad
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Re[7]: [lace] Lassen question

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Are you all looking at the photostream in Arachne's flickr account?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/  On my screen they show up as
the first two photographs.  I did not add them to Bobbi's album

Sue

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Re[5]: [lace] Lassen question

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Bobbi's diagrams are on the photostream of our Flickr site

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

The link for this is shown at the foot of all Arachne emails.  No
password is needed to see this site

Sue

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-- Original Message --
From: "Lorri Ferguson" 
To: "suebabbs...@gmail.com" 
Sent: 6/23/2019 1:07:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re[2]: [lace] Lassen question

>I was unable to see "Bobbi's diagrams", can you give a 'link' to where
>they are & send it privately?
>
>Lorri Ferguson
>  lorri...@msn.com
>
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Fw: Re: Re[2]: [lace] Lassen question

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Bobbi's diagrams are now posted on the arachne flickr site.  Go to link
at bottom of email to see them

Sue

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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 
lassen.jpg]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 
lassen 2.jpg]

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Re: [lace] "Het Lassen"

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Very helpful.  Thank you Bev

Sue

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[lace-chat] [lace] New login to Flickr

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Thank you all for the messages asking for the log-in information to
Flickr.  It is good to know so many of you are interested, and I will be
happy to continue to receive requests.  It would help me if you gave me
your location when you do so.

I have had a lot of requests from several different countries and
locations within those countries.   I don't want us all to log in on the
same day, as I suspect Flickr will lock us all out if we do that.  I
already get messages asking me if it is really me uploading photos from
two different places in one day, and I don't want to end up having to
re-set the password because too many people log in at once.

So I will stagger the sending of the password and login information over
the next few weeks.  I will start with the people who want to upload
photos now, and then work through the rest of you.

Meanwhile you do not need the password and login information to view the
photo albums already on the Flickr site.  At the end of every message
from Arachne, there is the following link:-

Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

Clicking on that or copying and pasting it will get you in to the Flickr
site.  I have checked this on my husband's computer which had never been
used to log into our Flickr account, so it should work easily for all of
you.


Sue

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[lace-chat] New login to Flickr

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Flickr has changed its login procedure to need an email address and new
password.  I do not wish to make these available on the lace-list itself
and in its archives, but I am happy to provide them to anyone who wants
them.

Please email me privately at suebabbs...@gmail.com  and I will send you
the new information

Sue

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[lace] Pierre Fouché’s workshop at Hunterdon Art Museum

[suebabbs385]

Elena asked what other students had thought of Pierre Fouche's recent
class at the Hunterdon Art Museum. I was in the class last Saturday and
Sunday, and I thought it was absolutely brilliant!

Now I'm getting my head more round the class and reviewing his lecture
notes, I feel that his explanation of the way the weavers work in Binche
as shapes increase and decrease was the clearest explanation I have ever
been given. I have not taken a lot of Binche classes, so other teachers
may be equally clear, but the few classes I have taken have never been
so understandable.

And this all came as an added extra after we had seen photos of his
wonderful work and integration of all sorts of different techniques.  We
listened spell-bound for several hours as he showed slide after slide of
his fascinating work.  Do visit his website if you are not familiar with
his work:  http://www.pierrefouche.net/

A huge vote of thanks goes to Devon Thein for organising this and
persuading the Hunterdon to host this class.

Sue

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Elena Kanagy-Loux

Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:03:47 -0700


Hello all,
 Of course the reality is that there are

many, many ways to make lace lace, and as long as the final result is
beautiful
it doesn’t matter how you get there.

In fact, this was the principal lesson we learned recently in South African
lace artist Pierre Fouché’s workshop. He combines Flemish lace and point
ground
lace in his work and even uses macrame knots to secure his stitches. Of
course
his style is contemporary and not traditional, but the results are incredibly
beautiful. It was very liberating to learn about his methods.

I’d love to hear what some other students in Pierre’s class thought about
it
and how you think it will impact your own approach to lacemaking? What were
the
highlights for you? I’m sure the Arachnids who couldn’t attend would be
glad to
hear about it.

All the Best,
Elena

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Re: [lace] Bobbin winder

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Yes, that's the one I have been using for 25 -30 years and am very happy 
with it. Nice and light to pack for travelling too


-- Original Message --
From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" 
To: "lace@arachne.com" 
Sent: 2/19/2019 7:35:37 PM
Subject: [lace] Bobbin winder


Dear Alison,

If you look here - https://www.roseground.com/product/bobbin-winder
You will find the type of bobbin winder I have had for many years – at least
25 years,. And It still works as good as new!!  It would be a good investment,
I think, and not too expensive – considering its possible/probable ling
life!!



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Re: [lace] uploading photos

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Janis
I will send you the instructions in a moment.  They come with screenshots, 
so I can't send them to the list




Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Janis Savage

Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:43 AM
To: Arachne
Subject: [lace] uploading photos

I am really impressed with the Christmas cards on Jenny Brandis's site
and wish I could have taken part this year.

I want to upload some photos onto the flickr site showing what I have
been up to lacewise but, having only done it once before, I have
forgotten how to do it.
I have printed out Lorelei's instructions from 1/11/2012 but it keeps on
asking for a Yahoo ID and password and I cannot get past this stage.
Please will someone send me instructions for dummies.

Season's greetings to everyone and may you have plenty of time for
important things, like making lace, in 2014
from
Janis Savage in Honeydew, South Africa

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Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

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And having made Battenberg type laces using tapes where you have to gather 
and ease the tapes around corners, I would much rather spend the time making 
a bobbin lace tape to fit the shape first.


All the tapes I inherited seem machine woven to my eye.

Sue

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Re: [lace] Blue film

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Wouldn't it be simpler in the USA simply to persuade the teacher to print 
the pattern on blue paper or card, and then you could use clear film?


My personal preference when working with white thread is orange card.  I've 
been converted!




Sue Babbs (in Northfield, IL)

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Re: [lace] Recent Emails

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this email arrived at me.  Did you see it on Arachne?



Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: c...@fastmail.us 
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:01 PM 
To: Arachne 
Subject: [lace] Recent Emails 


A few days ago I stopped getting any emails from lace or lace chat.  Can
anyone tell me if there has been a problem with the server or if it
could be at my end.  You can reply directly to me.

Cindy

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Re: [lace] uploading photos on flickr

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I'll reply personally to Agnes on this, as the email includes screenshots to 
help her




Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Agnes Boddington

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:57 AM
To: 'lace Arachne'
Subject: [lace] uploading photos on flickr

Help please, never seem to get this right:

How do I upload a photo to the Arachne album on Flickr, and into my own set?

Agnes Boddington- Elloughton Uk

PS the storm stayed south of the Humber, just got very wet here.

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Re: [lace-chat] Scousers

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Not quite!  Scouse  is a beef stew, and very tasty at that!  A Scouser 
is a Liverpudlian


Sue

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Re: [lace-chat] Scousers

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Yes, Brenda is right about the accents and the adjective, I just hadn't 
thought of those, but one doesn’t refer to a  person as a Scouse - 
whatever the Cambridge dictionary says!! Cambridge is too far south to get 
such details right.  Having lived as a Northerner in the south of England 
for 20 years, I was teased a lot about my Cheshire accent.  I'm very glad it 
wasn't a Liverpool one, even though I lived less than a mile from Liverpool.


I think Lancashire hot-pot always has the potatoes layered on the top, 
whereas the way my Gran made Scouse it always had the potatoes stirred in 
(and she never used lamb for Scouse, only hotpot)



I'd seen the joke before, and could imagine it happening for real too!

Sue

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Re: [lace] Third Hand

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I got some from here
http://www.flyshack.com/DisplayItem.aspx?ItemID=22686

It had  a brass handle, and is quite heavy

  and also from Richard Worthen on Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/transaction/42006767?

I don’t know if he is still carrying them or if he will ship abroad.

These are both USA suppliers

Sue

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Re: [lace] Translation of Lace Terms

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Very helpful to include diagrams too.  Thanks, David and Jean



Sue

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[lace] Fabric Of Britain S01E03 Embroidery

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I just heard on an embroidery site that this BBC Four video is currently on
YouTube – probably illicit, so watch it soon if you don’t live in the UK!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F0umZBbZk4
Sue

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Re: [lace] Blue Bajou

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Wonderful colours, Devon! What fun!! 

Do let us know if you find out how to get them. 

I'm not sure which I'd choose.  Dammerung would be very elegant.  


Sue

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Re: [lace] question for metallic thread jewellery

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I have very sensitive skin and find that metallic threads itch and scratch. 
The only  comfortable one that I've found is Bijoux Metallics (don't use 
Accentuate, as it is too stretchy for bobbin lace).  Bijoux only comes in 
muted colours but makes very good lace




Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Bev Walker

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 12:17 PM
To: Arachne
Subject: [lace] question for metallic thread jewellery

Hello everyone

For bobbin lace jewellery of metallic thread that touches the skin

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Re: [lace] Adding pictures to the Arachne Album

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I've emailed instructions and screenshots to Miriam which should enable her 
to do this.


Looking forward to seeing what you've been up to, Miriam!

Sue Babbs
Near Chicago, Illinois, USA

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From: Miriam Gidron

Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:27 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Adding pictures to the Arachne Album

Dear Spiders,

I have finished a few UFO lately and would like to post a picture of
the better ones on the Arachne Album but I have no idea how to do it.

Can anyone guide me through the motions.

Miriam
in Arad, Israel

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Re: [lace] Adding pictures to the Arachne Album

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Apologies to everyone, but I can't reach Lyn any other way.


Lyn
I tried to reply to this message privately, but got a message asking me to 
fill out the request from your ISP, which I did - and got this reply:


ERROR: Unable to process Allowed Sender request.

We're sorry. Because your original message to lynrbai...@supernet.com is no 
longer available, we cannot process this Allowed Sender request. Your 
message may have expired, or the recipient may have accepted or deleted it. 
You may wish to resend your original message, and check your email shortly 
thereafter for a new Allowed Sender Request message.


If lynrbai...@supernet.com chooses to allow email from your address, the 
message(s) that have been intercepted will be delivered immediately, and any 
future message(s) will be delivered without delay.


Get more information about EarthLink spamBlocker.

If you want to see my reply telling you how to upload photos you will need 
to allow my emails to reach you.

Sue

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To: suebabbs...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Adding pictures to the Arachne Album

Dear Sue,
Ooo, could you possibly send me a copy, especially on how to put the 
pictures in your own file?  I could not do that part.  lrb


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[lace-chat] Fw: Stunning BBC commercial

[suebabbs385]

Well worth watching

  It is a wonderful world. . .
   David Attenborough does it again!

  What a stunning commercial from BBC !

www.youtube.com/embed/auSo1MyWf8g?rel=0

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Re: [lace] Its been a while coming

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Wonderful job, Jenny!  Thank you very much. I see that the site mentions 
patterns being available for some of the bookmarks, but I cannot see how to 
get to them. Please can you help me?


And lovely bookmarks everyone.



Sue

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Re: [lace] more names

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Now that I have names to put to the faces, I've lost the link to the photo! 
Can anyone tell me where the photo is, please?


Sue

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Re: [lace] more names

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That's really puzzling.  I wrote this message last Wednesday, but it's just 
appeared on Arachne tonight (Monday)!




Sue


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Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:49 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] more names

Now that I have names to put to the faces, I've lost the link to the photo!
Can anyone tell me where the photo is, please?

Sue

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Re: [lace] Lurker Learning Lace

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Andy

Thank you for stopping lurking - and congratulations on your first bookmark. 
The breadth of lacemaking on the Arachne website is amazing!


If you tell us where you are in TX, you may find there are others who would 
meet with you and share their knowledge


Sue Babbs (in Northfield, Illinois)

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Re: [lace] pictures on Flickr

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Tess
These are some lovely pieces.  Are they all your own design too?



Sue

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Re: [lace] Knitted lace

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If you zoom in on the letters, they look as if they are simply made from the 
knitting yarn laid in place to form the letters.  There do not seem to be 
any stitches over them.


I think someone has carefully place the yarn on to the  the fabric world 
equivalent  of sticky backed plastic.  I forgot what it is called, and then 
maybe washed or ironed that plastic out.  Or maybe it is still in place.


Clever book cover!

Sue


There has been some discussion on Ravelry about this:
http://adsoftheworld.com/media/outdoor/penguin_audiobooks_knitting?size=original

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[lace] Fw: shameless promo

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For those of you who weren’t at Sweet Briar (or the Tønder festival) Bobbi
Donnelly’s first book is available on Holly Van Sciver’s site
http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/1Books.html#NewBooks

It is wonderful, beautiful Danish lace hat covers (cross cloths) and has great
photos and patterns for all the lace
Sue

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Re: [lace] Threads - Magic Threads for Sewings

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Jeri is right that using several colours of magic threads is better than all 
one colour, especially if your lace is made of very fine threads where all 
the pins are close together.


When using magic threads, I find it even easier if I use silk threads (e.g. 
Piper's 90/3) rather than cotton.  Silk slides through the loops more easily 
and is stronger.


It has just occurred to me that this would be a good use of threads left on 
bobbins at the end of a project.


Sue

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Re: [lace] out of print books

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If lace authors are only getting pence for their books, and their books are 
now out of print so are not getting any further recompense, and they have a 
pdf file (and the right to publish more copies themselves) would it not be a 
good idea for them to burn and sell CDs with their book in pdf form, 
charging whatever they feel is reasonable for the CD?


All of us on Arachne have access to computers, and a pdf copy of a book is 
better than not being able to get the book, plus we can easily print 
patterns and working diagrams as needed.  IN America it would be easy for us 
to go to Kinkos or Staples etc. and get the whole book printed and spiral 
bound (which means you can open it flat, which is always advantageous for a 
textbook you want to work from)


Sue Babbs (near Chicago, USA)

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

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I chose the Kindle (black  white only) because I liked the non-reflective 
screen. It seems easier on my eyes




Sue

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

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On the cover - you make a lovely piece of lace for the front and another for 
the back



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Subject: [lace] books vs kindle

You've all left out the most important problem of owning an e-reader - where
do you put your lace book mark?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Fw: chapel

[suebabbs385]

This is the most amazing chapel

http://www.niallmclaughlin.com/projects/bishop-edward-king-chapel-oxford/


I stumbled on it on an architect firend’s facebook page.  He was stunned by
it.  The light is so wonderful in it – and it just cries out to be
interpreted in contemporary lace

Sue

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[lace] 8th British Navy bobbin

[suebabbs385]

Gmail dropped David in Spam! I've dragged you back out of there, David, and 
told the computer off!


So there's been a delay in forwarding this for him to Arachne and Clay

Sue


-Original Message- 
From: David Collyer

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:07 PM
To: suebabbs...@gmail.com


Dear Sue,
I'm writing re the 8th British Navy bobbin.
Vietnam wouldn't let me write to the list. When I get home on May 20th I
have a number of contacts who may be able to help.

Just a thought though: is 1981 definitely a year of death? Have to
considered it might be like a Regimental Number?

David in Bao Loc, Vietnam where I am et to find any silk thread

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Re: [lace] Exciting find!

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What fun!!

Try Brighton, Sussex England



Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Clay Blackwell

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:09 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Exciting find!

Last weekend, I attended the North Carolina Regional Lacers' Spring Lace 
Day.  As always, it was great fun!..there was an area for lacemakers to sell 
lacemaking supplies they no longer use.  A friend was there, selling the 
last of the things from Betty Ann Rice.  I glanced into a box of old 
bobbins, and a spangle caught my eye...   could it be?


It was a tiny bone spy glass...  And yes!  It was a Stanhope!  The image was 
barely visible, but I was very excited to find it.  The amazing thing is 
that so many people had been through those bobbins in the past year and no 
one else had noticed it.  I suppose our discussion last week about Stanhopes 
was fresh in my mind, so I knew it when I saw it.


After getting home with it and looking at it carefully, I realized the lens 
was coated with grime.  After carefully cleaning it, I can now see four 
drawings with titles!  There is King's Road, The Aquarium, Palace 
Pier, and The Beach.  There appear to be two other pictures below the 
four, but all that is visible are the tops of the drawings.


Any ideas where these places are?  The bobbin has British 8th Navy written 
on it with the name of someone who died in 1981.


Clay

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Re: [lace-chat] Peeps

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I guess grilling peeps gives you grilled chick-en then!



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Re: [lace] Conventions

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Interesting idea, Clay.

Regional meetings might make a lot of sense.  Fly over some teachers and 
have them teach around the country, combining the costs of flights from 
abroad.


I love coming to Sweet Briar and meeting all you east-coasters, but 
something more local would be nice TOO!


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Re: [lace-chat] FW: Full Moon rising over Wellington NZ

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The cut-down address worked for me to see what David had sent:

https://vimeo.com/58385453

I couldn't get the YouTube link to work though!



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Re: [lace] Lace: IOLI Convention

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I like the idea of a lace cruise - knitters, quilters and embroiderers 
already have them, why not lacemakers?


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-Original Message- 
From: Clay Blackwell

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:04 PM
To: Karen Thompson
Cc: Arachne
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace: IOLI Convention
Maybe the next convention host could book us all on a cruise ship!  It 
wouldn't cost any more, and might be a huge draw...   Not to mention the 
publicity it would give to lacemaking!


Clay

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Re: [lace] Graph paper/Needle lace

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And you'll find Catherine Barley's reply to my question about architect's 
linen In January 2011 in the archives:


Hi Sue

I use a dark blue matt sticky backed plastic. I prefer it to architect's 
linen as it makes for a better contrast with the fine white threads. I 
believe it is available in a variety of colours, but I prefer the dark blue. 
I think most lace suppliers stock it.

Catherine Barley
UK


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Fw: [lace-chat] Re: Change of email address

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Thank you to all those who responded telling me that my messages had 
appeared.  That was helpful of you all.


Avital has explained to me that it's a Gmail issue, and I'm attaching her 
explanation for everyone else who puzzles over this matter! I was surprised 
that they also stopped me seeing them appear in my Comcast account, as I was 
still subscribed there, but I guess I'm just going to have to learn to live 
with the change!


Sue Babbs

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-Original Message- 
From: Avital

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 9:41 AM
To: suebabbs...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [lace-chat] Re: Change of email address

Gmail has this extremely irritating feature. They feel that if you sent a 
message, you shouldn't be bothered by seeing it again in your
inbox. So if you send a message to Arachne, it doesn't appear in your inbox. 
I also use Gmail and have had to get used to this behavior, but
it's standard for Gmail. If you really need to know whether your message got 
to the list, go to

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com and check for your
posting.

Good luck!

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[lace-chat] Re: Change of email address

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I tried sending this message to Arachne 2 days ago, but have not seen it
arrive at either of my subscribed email addresses, so am trying again today

Sue Babbs

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Subject: Change of email address

I have been getting progressively getting more and more fed up with our
internet provider (Comcast) and our latest trip to England irritated me with
them in the extreme, so please note I am stopping using sueba...@comcast.net,
and switching my email to suebabbs...@gmail.com

For those of you who knew that I was away, we got back last night and will be
slowly settling in and finding everything again after having been away so
long.  Sorry that this is a duplication of information for those of you who
are on both lists

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[lace] Change of email

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I have been getting progressively getting more and more fed up with our
internet provider (Comcast) and our latest trip to England irritated me with
them in the extreme, so please note I am stopping using sueba...@comcast.net,
and switching my email to suebabbs...@gmail.com

For those of you who knew that I was away, we got back last night and will be
slowly settling in and finding everything again after having been away so
long.


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[lace-chat] Change of email address

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For those of you who knew that I was away, we got back last night and will be
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long.  Sorry that this is a duplication of information for those of you who
are on both lists

Sue
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