Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay
At 01:56 PM 8/13/2004, you wrote: I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 I remember a mate to this bobbin that appeared on eBay several years ago. As I remember it, the bobbin was found on a historical dig that yielded other artifacts dated to the 16th century. That's why the bobbin was also dated thus. The other bobbin was tinted greenish, so it looks like this is a different bobbin but the same style. The price on the other bobbin went way beyond what my 'pocket snake' would allow me to pay for one bobbin -- no matter how old. However, I had Kenn van Dieren make me some from that same design which I have enjoyed using. The price on this one has not gone as high as the other one -- at least, not yet. There's still over a day to go. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon --- where it's hot and dry, with lightning storms. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???
Hi Clay and All, This bobbin is very similar in shape to one of the bobbins recovered from the 'Batavia' ship wreck off Australia. It was a Dutch ship wrecked off the west coast of Australia in 1629, so the bobbins were older than that. They were featured on an Australian stamp some years ago and Kleinhout make reproductions of them. It would be interesting to see if there is a Dutch connection to this bobbin. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 13 Aug 2004, at 21:56, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hello Spiders! I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical. (1) 16th century? says who?? This is an awfully sophisticated turning for a bobbin used in an art form which was merely decades old at the time. (2) for a dug bobbin, the sharp edges of the turnings are awfully crisp and clean... (3) dug from *where*??? this bobbin doesn't look like anything I'm familiar with from way back... Should we launch an email offensive to the seller??? (devilish vbg). Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???
I'm glad I brought this to the attention of my more learned colleagues on Arachne!! I had not sent the seller a message, and probably won't!! It seems that this bobbin might be as he/she says. Clay From: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Clay and All, This bobbin is very similar in shape to one of the bobbins recovered from the 'Batavia' ship wreck off Australia. It was a Dutch ship wrecked off the west coast of Australia in 1629, so the bobbins were older than that. They were featured on an Australian stamp some years ago and Kleinhout make reproductions of them. It would be interesting to see if there is a Dutch connection to this bobbin. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 13 Aug 2004, at 21:56, Clay Blackwell wrote: I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???
The seller is certainly based in The Netherlands and seems to have a vast range of (very) old stuff for sale. Andrea In Cambridge, UK where the sun is shining today See a pin and pick it up, all the day you'll have good luck From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay??? Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:52:46 -0400 I'm glad I brought this to the attention of my more learned colleagues on Arachne!! I had not sent the seller a message, and probably won't!! It seems that this bobbin might be as he/she says. Clay From: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Clay and All, This bobbin is very similar in shape to one of the bobbins recovered from the 'Batavia' ship wreck off Australia. It was a Dutch ship wrecked off the west coast of Australia in 1629, so the bobbins were older than that. They were featured on an Australian stamp some years ago and Kleinhout make reproductions of them. It would be interesting to see if there is a Dutch connection to this bobbin. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 13 Aug 2004, at 21:56, Clay Blackwell wrote: I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay
Another point of reference is the lacefairy site, _www.lacefairy.com_ (http://www.lacefairy.com) where you can see art depicting lacemakers and their bobbins from the 17th century. On the My Met Gallery that I set up, there are two paintings from the 1600's, one Dutch, one Danish with bobbins ressembling the ebay bobbin. (Go to _http://www.metmuseum.org/mymetmuseum/index.asp_ (http://www.metmuseum.org/mymetmuseum/index.asp) and enter lace for user name and lover for password. The Dutch painting is near the beginning and the Danish painting is near the end.) But of course, it could have been made any time since. Brian could be making one now. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???
Hello Spiders! I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical. (1) 16th century? says who?? This is an awfully sophisticated turning for a bobbin used in an art form which was merely decades old at the time. (2) for a dug bobbin, the sharp edges of the turnings are awfully crisp and clean... (3) dug from *where*??? this bobbin doesn't look like anything I'm familiar with from way back... Should we launch an email offensive to the seller??? (devilish vbg). Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
