[lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-08 Thread Miriam Gidron
Thanks to all the spiders who answered my question about these type of laces.

Miriam
Arad, Israel
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Re: [lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi All,
The book published by OIDFA on 'Point Ground Lace' gives details of the 
few differences in Chantilly and Bayeux. While Chantilly seems only to 
have used silk, white and cream are known as well as the usual black, 
Bayeux used cotton, linen and silk, not all together. The other 
differences seem to be in the number of twists in the head or footside 
and the picots. A very close study would be needed to positively 
identify an old piece, but that book has all of the answers.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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Re: [lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject : Re: [lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

Hello Miriam,
Chantilly was made in Bayeux also that's why sometimes it is called
Bayeux-lace. As the lady from Geraarsbergen, who teaches this lace, told me
there is no difference. There are little differences between Chantilly and
Blonde. And also between the other tulleground-laces.

in the 19th century Chantilly lace used to be made in Bayeux by the Lefébure family 
and it is indeed called Chantilly from Bayeux 
ny the way it took 10 lacers 10 years to make one of those gorgeous shawls ladies used 
to wear over their crinolines ..and for those who don't know it Chantilly was made by 
stretches of about 20cm x 10cm which were then sewn together with an invisible stitch 
..

as i said in my preceding mail   the main differences are 
* the stitches : they all use tulle ground but Chantilly has only grids in the 
patterns, Bayeux has grids and clothstitch, Blonde de Caen has  cloth stitch only
* the threads : Chantilly is only highly twisted black silk , Bayeux is only very fine 
cotton and blonde de Caen is only blonde silk (don't know the name of it in english .. 
it's untwisted  blonde silk )

it doesn't prevent you from making a black lace with loosely twisted silk and both 
grids and clothstitch but it won't be chantilly ... nor Bayeux ... just a superb black 
lace you made with all your heart and that's  what counts ..


dominique 


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Re:[lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject : [lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

Can any one of you knowledgeable lacemakers tell me what the difference 
between Chantilly Lace and Bayeux lace is. From what I have read they are 
very similar but yet there has to be a difference, otherwise we wouldn't 
call each by its name.

Miriam
Arad, Israel

well to my knowledge :
Chantilly is made of very fine black silk ( used to be organzine .. a much twisted 
silk which gave it  a matte finish )
Bayeux is made with  a very fine cotton thread and there are both grid and cloth 
stitch in the pattern . there are only grids in Chantilly .

so a cotton black lace with cloth stitch in the pattern is Bayeux  not Chantilly 
.

dominique from paris .


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[lace] Chantilly-bayeux

2003-10-05 Thread Jean Nathan
I think the black silk leaves and flowers in Chantilly lace are absolutely
gorgeous. Can anyone recommend a good instruction or pattern book -
hopefully that's still in print?

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-05 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Miriam,
Chantilly was made in Bayeux also that's why sometimes it is called
Bayeux-lace. As the lady from Geraarsbergen, who teaches this lace, told me
there is no difference. There are little differences between Chantilly and
Blonde. And also between the other tulleground-laces.
Greetings
Ilske

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[lace] Chantilly-Bayeux

2003-10-04 Thread Miriam Gidron
Can any one of you knowledgeable lacemakers tell me what the difference 
between Chantilly Lace and Bayeux lace is. From what I have read they are 
very similar but yet there has to be a difference, otherwise we wouldn't 
call each by its name.

Miriam
Arad, Israel
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