[lace] Ethics and the internet
You will know that I am passionate about lace bobbins. I started with the East Midland genre, then moved on to East Devon bobbins and for some years i have been urged to turn my mind to the bobbins of the âEuropeanâ continent. Over the years some people have kindly sent me some bobbins either in reality or in pictures. I have done nothing with them and i am feeling quite guilty about that (I can give you a list of excuses why I have done nothing!... cant we all?) I decided that one way of meeting what might be a start is a web page devoted to the bobbins of other countries. Over the years i have collected various information and pictures from various publications to help me identify the countries from which these bobbins came. I think it is quite a resource... so what is my problem? For a number of countries I have say just one picture that i can legitimately publish but a lot of drawings/pictures that i have collected for my personal use in the process of Continental bobbin identification. Some countries i have a number of legitimate pictures to publish, but not examples of all the bobbins from that country. To be honest, i have no idea where i got the illustrations etc from, but i am guessing that most have come from very old a possibly out of print books or catalogues. (for the most part.) What should i do? I do not think i would ever be sued for what i may publish. I would avoid the sources in the few books in current publication that i know of. Deep down i know the answer, but do not want to acknowledge it for the sake of academia (I hate to tell you but i did my Masters in Ethics oh I should not have told you that!) IF I can get enough people on side that have a reasonable collection of Continental bobbins and who are reasonably knowledgeable about them, I was wondering if we could have a collaborative web page? I would put up a web page of all that i have got (including dubious sourced stuff!) you guys would look at it, see if you have got a real picture you could take and send me of a bobbin that is illustrated from a book source etc, I would then replace the book illustration with your real picture . There seems to be nothing out there that enables bobbin collectors to ID their continental bobbins. I have a private resource that goes a long way to rectifying that (not all the way for sure) Is there a reasonable way i can get that out there for collectors and interested people to use? I need to say that this would be a âpictureâonly resource, there is no way I could write articles about them... I would just be out of my depth completely. Other than for a few rude word i only speak English! What do you think? Maybe there is not need for it? Maybe i should just publish my legit stuff (that would leave a lot of blanks) Over to you. Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Ethics and the internet
Hi Brian and fellow Arachnids, A very good idea. I would certainly take photos of my continental bobbins and let you have them with what info I have. Hope you have all found some time to make lace this Easter. Happy lace making, Joepie, sunny East Sussex, UK -Original Message- From: Brian Lemin You will know that I am passionate about lace bobbins. I started with the East Midland genre, then moved on to East Devon bobbins and for some years i have been urged to turn my mind to the bobbins of the European continent... ...IF I can get enough people on side that have a reasonable collection of Continental bobbins and who are reasonably knowledgeable about them, I was wondering if we could have a collaborative web page? I would put up a web page of all that i have got (including dubious sourced stuff!) you guys would look at it, see if you have got a real picture you could take and send me of a bobbin that is illustrated from a book source etc, I would then replace the book illustration with your real picture . There seems to be nothing out there that enables bobbin collectors to ID their continental bobbins. I have a private resource that goes a long way to rectifying that (not all the way for sure). Brian - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Ethics and the internet
Dear Brian, as we all on Arachne know, the copyright rules are different in each country. It seems to me you can avoid a lot of problems by acknowledging the problem on the website, asking permission to post any copyrighted pictures, and expressing a willingness to delete any photos as the copyright holder may request. In my American opinion, the fact that you are not making a profit on the enterprise would make a difference, but then that's just my opinion. I think the idea of a website for Continental bobbin identification would be a great thing for lacemakers. Personally I fail to see why the owners of Midlands bobbins should have all the fun. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it's still a bit chilly for this time of year. 28F -2C at 6 a.m Over the years some people have kindly sent me some bobbins either in reality or in pictures. I have done nothing with them and i am feeling quite guilty about that (I can give you a list of excuses why I have done nothing!... cant we all?) I decided that one way of meeting what might be a start is a web page devoted to the bobbins of other countries. Over the years i have collected various information and pictures from various publications to help me identify the countries from which these bobbins came. I think it is quite a resource... so what is my problem? For a number of countries I have say just one picture that i can legitimately publish but a lot of drawings/pictures that i have collected for my personal use in the process of Continental bobbin identification. Some countries i have a number of legitimate pictures to publish, but not examples of all the bobbins from that country. To be honest, i have no idea where i got the illustrations etc from, but i am guessing that most have come from very old a possibly out of print books or catalogues. (for the most part.) What should i do? I do not think i would ever be sued for what i may publish. I would avoid the sources in the few books in current publication that i know of. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Ethics and the internet
Legally, Heaven only knows. There's probably a law against crossing the street. Morally, if you give as much provenance as you've got, and state that it's incomplete and open to correction, that's all any reasonable person could expect. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
