RE: [lace] Flickr account - decision made!

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Sue,

Thank you very much for taking on this task. I have sent $5 towards your costs
via Paypal. I have not been very active in Arachne lately through personal
circumstances, but I always read all emails and love spending time with all
the eye-candy in our photo albums (especially when feeling a little ‘down’).

Also, thank you Clay for your years of work and dedication to Arachne.

Happy lace making,

Joepie.

From: Sue Babbs<mailto:suebabbs...@gmail.com>
Sent: 18 January 2019 18:22
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Subject: [lace] Flickr account - decision made!

I am tremendously grateful to Clay Blackwell for all the years she has hosted
this Flickr unlimited storage account.  She has done so as a way of giving
back to the lace world.  Thank you so much for doing this, Clay.

This morning I investigated having several free Flickr accounts.  It would
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>This way we can keep storing photos in the same place and keep all
the
information that has been written about them.  Our Flickr account
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/ is always listed at the bottom of
each Arachne email.  If you want to upload photos – or keep your photos
current – contact me for login details.  They are the same as they have been
since January 2017

Sue

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[lace] Flickr account - decision made!

[Sue Babbs]

I am tremendously grateful to Clay Blackwell for all the years she has hosted
this Flickr unlimited storage account.  She has done so as a way of giving
back to the lace world.  Thank you so much for doing this, Clay.

This morning I investigated having several free Flickr accounts.  It would
mean, downloading all the photos from our existing account uploading them to
free Flickr accounts and typing in all the info all over again.   I remember
how much work it was when we last moved storage platforms of the photos and I
went through that process.  I have NO desire to do it ever again, especially
as we have a lot more stored photos than we had in 2012!

Quarterly charges used to be $6.95 every 3 months, but changed to $17.95 every
3 months in October 2018, which is what triggered Clay’s request to me
earlier this week.

So having spoken with Clay on the phone, I have now taken over this Flickr Pro
account and decided to go with the annual charge of $49.99, which I will pay
this year.  It is due in April.  I may ask for donations to help fund it in
April 2020.  It allows us to store unlimited photos.

This way we can keep storing photos in the same place and keep all the
information that has been written about them.  Our Flickr account
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/ is always listed at the bottom of
each Arachne email.  If you want to upload photos – or keep your photos
current – contact me for login details.  They are the same as they have been
since January 2017

Sue

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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Clay Blackwell]

I am so sorry for all of the confusion about the funding of our Flickr account! 
 I simply misread something and jumped to the wrong conclusion!

So please.  Do not try to set up an account to reimburse me!  The cost is 
really not an issue for me, because it is very small.  (Less than $20 a year)

What IS important to me is that you do not use our lace Flickr account as 
personal storage for every picture you have.  It is easy enough to set up your 
own account if that is what you need.And unless you overload your own 
account, it is free.  But please do use the Arachne account to highlight WIPs 
and remove (your own) old pictures as new ones are created!

Happy Lacemaking!

Clay



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> On Jan 17, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Gabriele Patzner  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> like Susan (and I suppose many more) I wasn’t aware that cost for hosting the 
> pics was carried by a single member. 
> 
> Thank you, Clay. 
> 
> I guess you had first offers of reimbursement and I would add mine to that. I 
> just need to know who is able and willing to collect. If I give five dollars 
> only 19 others need to do so and we financed a whole year on flickr for 
> instance. 
> 
> Sending money to the other end of the world is really no problem with 
> services like paypal existing. BTW: For making single payments paypal can be 
> used without opening an account.
> 
> I suggest this because while for some the pruning of the archive is a valid 
> idea - and maybe some photos really are put up only to illustrate a current 
> discussion - others cherish the idea of having an archive.
> 
> And I suggest this because there are people working for flickr and those need 
> to make a living and someone needs to pay for that. Server hosting does 
> generate costs for machines, housing, and electricity, too. Let’s be aware of 
> that and use it conciously. We are many, surely we can pay for a service that 
> serves us well?
> 
> But as I understood this, this is not the only problem. There is the 
> collecting and billing needing to be handled, and also the work on the 
> account to be done. If there are no volunteers for that, then the only option 
> is for everyone to get their very own flickr accounts (or whatever) and host 
> their own photos - for free - and put up a link to it in their signatures.
> 
> Greetings, Gabriele
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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Catherine Barley]

I have my own website for which I have to pay an annual fee to keep it running, 
so have never had the necessity to use Flickr.  However, I do know that some 
who have used it in the past are now deceased and have been for some 
considerable time, but their photos are still on Flickr!  Is it only the person 
who installed these photos who can delete them or can anyone perform this 
operation?

I do visit the site when someone posts on arachne that they have have 
downloaded photos for us all to see.

Catherine Barley UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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I suggest this because while for some the pruning of the archive is a valid 
idea - and maybe some photos really are put up only to illustrate a current 
discussion - others cherish the idea of having an archive.

And I suggest this because there are people working for flickr and those need 
to make a living and someone needs to pay for that. Server hosting does 
generate costs for machines, housing, and electricity, too. Let’s be aware of 
that and use it conciously. We are many, surely we can pay for a service that 
serves us well?

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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Gabriele Patzner]

Hello all,

like Susan (and I suppose many more) I wasn’t aware that cost for hosting the 
pics was carried by a single member. 

Thank you, Clay. 

I guess you had first offers of reimbursement and I would add mine to that. I 
just need to know who is able and willing to collect. If I give five dollars 
only 19 others need to do so and we financed a whole year on flickr for 
instance. 

Sending money to the other end of the world is really no problem with services 
like paypal existing. BTW: For making single payments paypal can be used 
without opening an account.

I suggest this because while for some the pruning of the archive is a valid 
idea - and maybe some photos really are put up only to illustrate a current 
discussion - others cherish the idea of having an archive.

And I suggest this because there are people working for flickr and those need 
to make a living and someone needs to pay for that. Server hosting does 
generate costs for machines, housing, and electricity, too. Let’s be aware of 
that and use it conciously. We are many, surely we can pay for a service that 
serves us well?

But as I understood this, this is not the only problem. There is the collecting 
and billing needing to be handled, and also the work on the account to be done. 
If there are no volunteers for that, then the only option is for everyone to 
get their very own flickr accounts (or whatever) and host their own photos - 
for free - and put up a link to it in their signatures.

Greetings, Gabriele

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[lace] Flickr account for photos

[hottleco]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention Sue! And thank you Clay—I had no 
clue you were underwriting our Arachne Flickr to this extent. We have all 
benefited from your generosity! 

Before I offer suggestions, what time frame are we working with here? The most 
obvious thing is to stop the Flickr billing meter to avoid further charges to 
Clay. To that end, I will edit my album to remove at least 2/3 of my photos. 
I’m always excited to post pics as I pass personal milestones but I have abused 
our  system by adding pics without removing any! Going forward, I will be sure 
to make my album more of an rotating exhibit rather than a compendium of past 
works. 

If we can collectively get under the threshold of 1000 photos, we will have a 
bit of breathing room to address our needs. While I am willing to contribute to 
an Arachne Flickr Fund, there are some obvious logistical issues involved in 
collecting funds from Arachne members scattered across the globe, each person 
using local currency! This whole enterprise would be greatly simplified if we 
can work within the Flickr guidelines for a free account. Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens FL USA



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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Lin Hudren]

i forgot to trim my post and apologize as i was even nudged to do so.  Ugh.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:09 PM Lin Hudren  wrote:

> Thank you Sue and Clay for bringing this to our attention and making sure
> this has been available to each member of the group.  i personally am
> prepared to donate $20 via PayPal towards the payment for 2019 to whomever
> will host this continuance.  it is a very valuable tool for our group and
> we need to keep Arachne strong.  please let me know where to send this when
> the time comes and a decision is made.  thank you again.
>
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Lin Hudren]

Thank you Sue and Clay for bringing this to our attention and making sure
this has been available to each member of the group.  i personally am
prepared to donate $20 via PayPal towards the payment for 2019 to whomever
will host this continuance.  it is a very valuable tool for our group and
we need to keep Arachne strong.  please let me know where to send this when
the time comes and a decision is made.  thank you again.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:47 PM Sue Babbs  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> We need to put our collective thinking caps on.  For many years now, Clay
> Blackwell has been funding our Arachne Flickr site personally –
apparently
> since 2012.  We have more photos  (2674) stored there than can be stored
> on a
> free Flickr account (1000).
>
> There have been changes to the Flickr account recently and the costs are
> now
> $17.95 a quarter.  Clay no longer wishes to be responsible for hosting this
> account.
>
> I have been assisting her by maintaining the photos in albums and helping
> Arachneans post those photos.
>
> We need to find a solution for the future for our Flickr account, which
> will
> involve getting the account out of Clay’s name into someone else’s if
we
> are to continue to use it.  I have not investigated how this might be done
> –
> or, if indeed it is possible to do so.
>
> Suggestions as far as I see them are:
>
> 1) find someone else willing to host our Flickr account!
> 2) ask for donations to fund our Flickr account – (Maybe via PayPal
> donations once a year.  72 x $1 donations would be sufficient at present)
> 3) find a different platform to store the photos (I have no knowledge on
> other
> platforms)
> 4) suggest people remove their own photos and close down the storage online
> 5) remove all stored photos and simply go with the reduced storage that the
> free Flickr account allows. This would allow us to see photos as we wanted
> to
> discuss them
> 6) have multiple free Flickr accounts  - starting up a new one as we near
> the
> limit of 1000
>
>
> Please don’t just reply to me personally on this, but let the whole list
> know what you think?  Do you want the availability of a photo storage site?
> Do we need to keep all the photos?  Can we archive ones in earlier years?
> All
> suggestions welcome – but remember to trim your posts!!
>
> I don’t have a lot of free time or knowledge to deal with any transfer,
so
> if there is someone out there with internet photo storage skills, now is
> the
> time to reveal yourself!
>
> Sue
>
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
>
>
>   Hi Clay
>
>   Yes, I am fine and enjoying life and being a grandmother.  How are you?
>
>   I don’t know what you were paying for Flickr before so I’m not sure
how
> much of an increase this is, but I sense that it must be a large increase
> from
> your reaction.
>
>
>
>
>   What do you want to do about it?
>   Sue
>
>   suebabbs...@gmail.com
>
>
>   From: Mary Blackwell
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:14 AM
>   To: Sue Babbs
>   Subject: Re: Flickr account
>
>   Oops, make that $17.95...
>
>
>   Sent from my iPad
>
>   On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Mary Blackwell 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Sue!  Hope you’re well and enjoying your elevated role as
> Grandmother!
>
> As you know, I have enjoyed my role as sponsor of the Flickr account
> for a
> number of years.  It became so popular that we had to upgrade the service.
>
> Today I actually read the receipt for our most recent renewal, and
> nearly
> fainted.  I am now being charged $18.95 four times a year!  My generosity
> hath
> been abused, and I will need to cancel this.
>
> Have you any suggestions about how to go about this?
>
> Clay
>
>
>
>
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[lace] Flickr account for photos

[Sue Babbs]

Hi All

We need to put our collective thinking caps on.  For many years now, Clay
Blackwell has been funding our Arachne Flickr site personally – apparently
since 2012.  We have more photos  (2674) stored there than can be stored on a
free Flickr account (1000).

There have been changes to the Flickr account recently and the costs are now
$17.95 a quarter.  Clay no longer wishes to be responsible for hosting this
account.

I have been assisting her by maintaining the photos in albums and helping
Arachneans post those photos.

We need to find a solution for the future for our Flickr account, which will
involve getting the account out of Clay’s name into someone else’s if we
are to continue to use it.  I have not investigated how this might be done –
or, if indeed it is possible to do so.

Suggestions as far as I see them are:

1) find someone else willing to host our Flickr account!
2) ask for donations to fund our Flickr account – (Maybe via PayPal
donations once a year.  72 x $1 donations would be sufficient at present)
3) find a different platform to store the photos (I have no knowledge on other
platforms)
4) suggest people remove their own photos and close down the storage online
5) remove all stored photos and simply go with the reduced storage that the
free Flickr account allows. This would allow us to see photos as we wanted to
discuss them
6) have multiple free Flickr accounts  - starting up a new one as we near the
limit of 1000


Please don’t just reply to me personally on this, but let the whole list
know what you think?  Do you want the availability of a photo storage site?
Do we need to keep all the photos?  Can we archive ones in earlier years?  All
suggestions welcome – but remember to trim your posts!!

I don’t have a lot of free time or knowledge to deal with any transfer, so
if there is someone out there with internet photo storage skills, now is the
time to reveal yourself!

Sue

suebabbs...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:


  Hi Clay

  Yes, I am fine and enjoying life and being a grandmother.  How are you?

  I don’t know what you were paying for Flickr before so I’m not sure how
much of an increase this is, but I sense that it must be a large increase from
your reaction.




  What do you want to do about it?
  Sue

  suebabbs...@gmail.com


  From: Mary Blackwell
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:14 AM
  To: Sue Babbs
  Subject: Re: Flickr account

  Oops, make that $17.95...


  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Mary Blackwell 
wrote:


Hi Sue!  Hope you’re well and enjoying your elevated role as
Grandmother!

As you know, I have enjoyed my role as sponsor of the Flickr account for a
number of years.  It became so popular that we had to upgrade the service.

Today I actually read the receipt for our most recent renewal, and nearly
fainted.  I am now being charged $18.95 four times a year!  My generosity hath
been abused, and I will need to cancel this.

Have you any suggestions about how to go about this?

Clay




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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[The Lacebee]

The issue with Facebook is this:

- a closed group restricts access to the pages so that only those people 
subscribed to the page and give access by the chosen moderators have access to 
the pictures.  Then, as has been said, if you just post a picture it can 
disappear requiring hours of searching to find it as it it harder to crate 
albums of photos in Groups

- if you set Arachne up as an entity rather than a group then pictures and all 
posting become public domain which some people don't want as it means their 
work and posts go public in the Internet and appear in google image searches.

Think of groups being like a forum and the lace guild page as an entity being 
like a page of a film star.

L


Kind Regards

Liz Baker

> On 3 Jan 2014, at 15:07, laceandbits  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to see pictures on Facebook without being a member?'
> 
> Yes it must be, DH can see The Lace Guild's Facebook page and he doesn't have 
> a Facebook account.  He just Googles The Lace Guild and Facebook and there it 
> is.

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[David C COLLYER]

Clay,

Having said that, there is no reason you couldn't set up a group as 
you suggest, and see if it works!  The Flickr account is still there 
for those who like it.


I don't need to as there's already a number of Lace groups on 
Facebook where I've been putting my pictures. The one I subscribe to 
is called Bobbin Lace Makers and is so easy and just wonderful to 
use. There is no need for any paranoia regarding privacy. You can 
easily lock down your own homepage to be private. Personally I have 
nothing to hide and haven't felt the need.

David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[Lin Hudren]

For my own 2¢ worth - i like that i can "see" additions to the Flickr site
in my Arachne emails.  when a new photo is posted, i can look at it and
enjoy and dream.  it makes it so wonderful.  there are times when
discussion leaves me with - wish i could "see" this.  but with a click of
the picture, i get a full size and can enlarge for detail.  i don't have to
go to another place.  if it ain't broke - don't fix it.

thanks for having this available for me because i am blessed with how it is
and greatly appreciate the work involved for my pleasure.


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Agnes Boddington <
ag...@weatherwax.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi David and everyone else too: I agree that Facebnook would be so much
> easier.
> You post the photos on your own timeline, and anyone can see them. I have
> already done this with a few photos of my lace.
> Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK
>
> I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far simpler
> just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us are already
> anyway.
> David in Ballarat, AUS
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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[Malvary Cole]

Following on Jacquie's message about non-Facebook account holders, if it is 
a closed group as David suggested I'm not sure that a non-member can see it. 
It also needs a 'moderator' to admit new members, so someone would have to 
take on that task.  I'm already a member of a lacemaking group on Facebook 
and see lots of lovely stuff from all round the world.


Malvary in frigid Ottawa where there have been severe frostbite warnings all 
week.  Today is a balmy -27c with a windchill of -39c, but it is supposed to 
be warmer tomorrow -7c. 


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RE: [lace] Flickr account

[Agnes Boddington]

Hi David and everyone else too: I agree that Facebnook would be so much
easier.
You post the photos on your own timeline, and anyone can see them. I have
already done this with a few photos of my lace.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far simpler
just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us are already
anyway. 
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[Sue Babbs]

You won't get me on FaceBook though!! Way too much effort!




Sue

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From: David C COLLYER 
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:24 AM 
To: Clay Blackwell ; Sue Babbs ; Arachne 
Subject: Re: [lace] Flickr account 


Clay,
I wanted to reply to you privately but comcast hates my PC and will 
only allow my iPad :)


I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far 
simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us 
are already anyway. I am in half a dozen of so fo these groups and 
it's just so easy for everyone to post their photos, tell their 
stories and view everyone else''s posts.

Just my twopeNnyworth
David in Ballarat, AUS

Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they 
believed it had been hacked.


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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[laceandbits]

'Is it possible to see pictures on Facebook without being a member?'

Yes it must be, DH can see The Lace Guild's Facebook page and he doesn't have a 
Facebook account.  He just Googles The Lace Guild and Facebook and there it is.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire. 



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>From lbuy...@nc.rr.com 
Date: 03/01/2014  14:12  (GMT+00:00) 
To Arachne  
Subject Re: [lace] Flickr account 
 
Is it possible to see pictures on Facebook without being a member?  I am not a 
member and would prefer not to join unless the group feels that Facebook is the 
best solution.
Liz R (not Reynolds), Raleigh NC
 David C COLLYER  wrote: 
> I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far 
> simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us 
> are already anyway. 

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[Clay Blackwell]

David, one problem with Facebook is that not everyone subscribes, and many of 
us who do only post very little.  There is a lot of concern about how much 
information is gathered and who can see it.  A third concern is that after only 
a short time, the picture you posted is *way* down the queue and difficult to 
find unless the searcher knows specifically how to look for it.

Having said that, there is no reason you couldn't set up a group as you 
suggest, and see if it works!  The Flickr account is still there for those who 
like it.

Clay

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> I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far simpler 
> just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us are already 
> anyway. I am in half a dozen of so fo these groups and it's just so easy for 
> everyone to post their photos, tell their stories and view everyone else''s 
> posts.
> Just my twopeNnyworth
> David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[lbuyred]

Is it possible to see pictures on Facebook without being a member?  I am not a 
member and would prefer not to join unless the group feels that Facebook is the 
best solution.
Liz R (not Reynolds), Raleigh NC
 David C COLLYER  wrote: 
> I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far 
> simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us 
> are already anyway. 

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[David C COLLYER]

Clay,
I wanted to reply to you privately but comcast hates my PC and will 
only allow my iPad :)


I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far 
simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us 
are already anyway. I am in half a dozen of so fo these groups and 
it's just so easy for everyone to post their photos, tell their 
stories and view everyone else''s posts.

Just my twopeNnyworth
David in Ballarat, AUS

Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they 
believed it had been hacked.


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Re: [lace] Flickr account saga continues

[J D Hammett]

Have just up-loaded 1 photo and edited the text of 2 others! Thank you.

Joepie.

-Original Message- 
From: Clay Blackwell

Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:54 PM
To: Arachne
Subject: [lace] Flickr account saga continues

Flickr advises me that they are changing the way "I" can recover forgotten 
information!  One option is that I can give them the names of three trusted 
individuals who can share the information.  I propose Sue Babbs in the US, 
Antje in Spain, and a computer literate volunteer in the UK!  Any 
volunteers?


Clay

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[J D Hammett]

Hi Clay,

Many thanks for all the hard work you put into this. I will try 'LaceMaker1' 
to upload a photo straight away.


Happy lace making,

Joepie

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From: Clay Blackwell

Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: [lace] Flickr account

Clarification...   The brackets, <...> , are not part of the password


On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Clay Blackwell  
wrote:


Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they believed 
it had been hacked.  In order to get it active again, I had to change the 
password.  "Honiton" was not long enough and was considered "weak".  So... 
The new password is 


I have disabled the extra security question, in hopes that the "stronger" 
password is sufficient.  If not,  we'll have to come up with a better 
plan.  The second security question would not do us any good, because it 
would send me a code each time someone tried to get in, and I would not 
have any idea who needed that code!


So sorry this is becoming a nuisance to everyone!

Clay


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[lace] Flickr account saga continues

[Clay Blackwell]

Flickr advises me that they are changing the way "I" can recover forgotten 
information!  One option is that I can give them the names of three trusted 
individuals who can share the information.  I propose Sue Babbs in the US, 
Antje in Spain, and a computer literate volunteer in the UK!  Any volunteers?

Clay

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Re: [lace] Flickr account

[Clay Blackwell]

Clarification...   The brackets, <...> , are not part of the password

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Clay Blackwell  wrote:
> 
> Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they believed it 
> had been hacked.  In order to get it active again, I had to change the 
> password.  "Honiton" was not long enough and was considered "weak".  So...  
> The new password is 
> 
> I have disabled the extra security question, in hopes that the "stronger" 
> password is sufficient.  If not,  we'll have to come up with a better plan.  
> The second security question would not do us any good, because it would send 
> me a code each time someone tried to get in, and I would not have any idea 
> who needed that code!
> 
> So sorry this is becoming a nuisance to everyone!
> 
> Clay

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[lace] Flickr account

[Clay Blackwell]

Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they believed it 
had been hacked.  In order to get it active again, I had to change the 
password.  "Honiton" was not long enough and was considered "weak".  So...  The 
new password is 

I have disabled the extra security question, in hopes that the "stronger" 
password is sufficient.  If not,  we'll have to come up with a better plan.  
The second security question would not do us any good, because it would send me 
a code each time someone tried to get in, and I would not have any idea who 
needed that code!

So sorry this is becoming a nuisance to everyone!

Clay




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[lace] Flickr Account

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Hooray!  I got in today!
Clay the required name I needed was the 2nd one you mentioned - Youngest
daughter. That worked, and it let me in!!
I also Un-ticked the box for being permanently signed it.  It automatically
had a tick in it, so I un-ticked, then answered the question, and Hey
Presto! It recognised me. (stupid thing!!! :)

Thank you all for your help and advice.   Seeing all the lace is one thing,,
but Not being able to comment on any particular piece is annoying (to be
polite!!!)

Regards from Liz in hot, sunny, Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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