[lace] Lace with paper strings revisited comment
Janice wrote: Maybe Jean or Alice could take a picture and put it in webshots or somewhere that we could all see it for those of us who are challenged with visualisation. Sounds intriguing. I'll put it on the webshots as soon as I've finished unravelling the strings to make the petals and leaves. Did about half last night and went to bed with a very painful shoulder - it's quite fiddly. Hope to get the rest done today. The mounting went very smoothly running a double thread through every fourth edge loop and through the holes in the frame. I intend to make another one of the series, but I'll reduce the pricking a fraction. Although the one I did is nice and taught inside the fram, it fits right up to the frame on the inside. I think I'd like a small gap as shown in the pictures of the finished ones in the book. The frame is thicker than the ones in the book, but it looks fine. I couldnlt fine anything ready-made that would suit. I'd need to be a lot better at woodwork (or DH would need to be) to make the kind of frame in the book, which slots together rather like those three-tiered small ornament shelves that were popular in the 1960s. DH is fine with metal because, if he makes a mistake, he can weld a bit back on, but he can't do that with wood!! Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace with paper strings revisted
Firstly, so far there are 41 names in the raffle for the strings - I'm amazed, and will feel awful that so many will have to be disappointed. Draw is on Tuesday. I completed the sunflower picture, and then came the problem of mounting it - I like to do these things myself. I first made a wooden frame just bigger than the finished lace and drilled holes through from the outside to the inside. Took ages passing threads from the outside to the inside through a loop in the edge of the lace and then back through the same hole to the outside and on to the next hole. Just finished it, tensioned it and the whole thing collapsed. Glue and a staple just wasn't enough to hold the corners. Back to the drawing board. So (in a flash of what I hope is genius) I thought of bars made by Siesta Frames. They're sold in pairs and have the ends cut so that two sticking out bits fit into the reversed cutouts of another piece to make a corner. They fit very tightly, although they are intended to be taken apart and made up again into other sized frames. They're really intended for pinning silk for silk painting or Aida or anything else you might want to pin on to a frame. I got two pairs of 7 inch bars, which give an inside measurement of a bit over 6 inches so the lace should fit. It's all stuck together. Seems very, very firm and looks ideal for mounting this lace on. It needs something very plain. Will drill the holes and mount the lace tomorow and just hope it stays together. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings revisted
We made this series of flower pictures/projects for table decorations for conference last year. They had to be freestanding for the center of the tables rather than framed for hanging, as in the book. We bent wire into a square just barely larger than the lace (so the lace would fit inside the square), with the wire ends overlapped at the center bottom and turned down for a couple inches, about 2 inches apart. The bases were wood, about 2-1/2 x 8 inches. Two holes were drilled where the turned-down wires touched the wood, and the wire ends inserted. (The wires were painted the same color as the basic thread so they would look almost part of the lace.) The lace was attached to the wire with an overcast thread. One of our people had made a simple wooden frame as a test, but it was a bit bulky for our purpose. The edge boards on it had interlocking cutout sections so it would be firm when glued. I think that's the way your purchased frame is made. I had seen a lace piece framed in wire on a webpage about an exhibit in Germany. It looked so nice that I had to try it with our lace pieces. I thought it worked very well. Best of luck with your faming, Jean. Hope it works correctly this time. Alice in Oregon -- wet and chilly so far this year --- Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completed the sunflower picture, and then came the problem of mounting it - I like to do these things myself. I first made a wooden frame just bigger than the finished lace and drilled holes through from the outside to the inside. ... Just finished it, tensioned it and the whole thing collapsed. . I thought of bars made by Siesta Frames. They're sold in pairs and have the ends cut so that two sticking out bits fit into the reversed cutouts of another piece to make a corner. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace with paper strings revisted comment
We made this series of flower pictures/projects for table decorations for conference last year. They had to be freestanding for the center of the tables rather than framed for hanging, as in the book. And a VERY big thank you Alice for all the work you and your Guild did for the conference. I was one of the lucky people who got to take a centerpiece home. I have it on display in my crafty area, and it is simply beautiful, the wire frame and wood base are a lovely way to frame the lace, as the focus is on the lace itself, and how open and airy the finished piece is. Thank you all again! ~jenn in Tahuya,washington state - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace with paper strings
I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer It appears that the lace is worked from the right side - the pricking isn't a mirror of the finished lace, (unless the photo of the finished pieces has been mirrored). It makes sense to work from the right side because it would easier to leave the ends of the paper strings laying on top of the work than try and slide them through to the wrong side. The accompanying illustration also suggests that the strings are laid on top. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? The teacher in the group I attend has made several of the item from the book, including the sunflower, yesterday but she had a mental block and can't remember if she worked them from the right side or the wrong side and how she finished them off - she's made so many things since then and we all know you have to really think about it when changing techniques even if it's something you've done many times in the past. I didn't give her any warning that I wanted to make the something from this book. By next week her brain will have rewound and she'll remember what she did, but in the meantime, if anyone has made something, it could help others who want to try ine if the designs in the future. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. It appears that the lace is worked from the right side - the pricking isn't a mirror of the finished lace, (unless the photo of the finished pieces has been mirrored). It makes sense to work from the right side because it would easier to leave the ends of the paper strings laying on top of the work than try and slide them through to the wrong side. The accompanying illustration also suggests that the strings are laid on top. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
I mean the regular threads. If the piece is worked from the right side, the linen threads need to be on the back (somehow) if they're to be tied off. Not a problem if they are being cut off. At first glance, I think they'll need to be transferred to the back because there are only the two paper strings running all around the edge as thick gimps with just a pair of linen threads worked through them. Might find it's obvious when I get down to the bottom to finish off. At the moment I'm just trying to tame the pair of snakes along the top edge (it's the side actually on the finished piece). Two paper strings run all around the edge so they're fairly long. They won't wind on to bobbins, but I've managed to coil them to make them a bit more manageable. They're quite stiff and behave like springy wire. Jean - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Jean Nathan Cc: Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Jean, I'm sorry I can't be of any help with your question, but I have one for you. I've never seen this book and am enchanted with the photo of the cover. I'd like to give it a try, but I don't recall ever seeing the paper string for sale at any vendor's table or any Internet listing. Can anyone suggest a source for obtaining the paper strings? Oh! It just occurred to me that Alice Howell (Hi, Alice!) made an little angel with paper string wings and flower for the 2004 Arachne Christmas exchange. You can see it here (scroll down): http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Perhaps Alice can answer your question and/or mine! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer snip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Yep -- worked all the flower pictures. We used these for banquet decorations at our conference. Yes, you work from the front. Use temporary pins to help hold the stiff paper strings in place or out of your way. Expect to work slower than normal because of inserting the strings, but you'll soon get used to it. These pictures actually go quite fast since they have widely spaced pinholes. Finishing -- I finished the first one on the front and did not like it. Here is what I did on the rest of them. When working the side where all the knots are, work the stitch on top as normal. Place pin. Close. Lift the bobbins involved with the edging and tuck all the discard threads UNDER them and towards the top of the pillow, above the next edging pinhole. Use a temp pin to hold the threads up out of the way. Do the Tuck Under process on all the way down this side. Finish the fourth side where you sew in all the connections. Leave the last two threads long after you tie them off. (Will explain later.) Now the fun part. Bundle all the discard bobbins, or remove the bobbins leaving the thread ends hanging. Unpin the whole thing. Carefully turn it over and repin two rows above the loose threads.Tie off the hanging threads in pairs. Trim ends, or if you're really fussy, weave in the ends and then trim. Back to the last corner, where the outline paper strings meet the start. I tuck the excess paper strings to the back of the picture, and bend them to fit behind the starting strings. Use one of the hanging strings to overcast the paper string ends to the beginning ones, following the thread lines of the pattern. Do this for 1/2 - 1 inch. Fasten thread. Cut off excess paper string. Weave in second hanging string. Trim. Then have patience while you untwist the paper string ends in the picture. Let me know if this is not clearly explained. Alice in Oregon -- where my jury duty today was cancelled so I have the day for myself --- Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? .. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Thanks to Alice for giving the answer on finishing and handling the string - also useful for anyone else who makes any of the designs using paper strings. To answer Barbara's question on where to get paper strings, I got 9 different coloured bundles of strings from Tim Parker at last year's Poole Bobbin Lace Day. I also got 5 yards of white this week from him (he's in the next town). I believe he is going to stop selling them - probably not a great deal of demand for them. They're currently listed on his web site under sundries: PAPER STRINGS As used by Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti in her new book 'Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings' 10 metre skein - available in 16 colours each £1.25 175 metre hanks - white each £12.00 Colours available - white, natural, dark green, light green, red, lilac, pink,yellow, blue, apricot, orange, brown, blue/black, coral red and grey. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker/index.html Link to the catalogue is at the bottom of the page - the left hand pane doesn't work for me. I have no connection with Tim other than being a satisfied customer. There are 5 suppliers addresses listed in the front of the book - three in Finland, Theo Brejaart in the Netherlands and one address (other than Tim) in England. I'm told the large angel featured in the book takes 8 yards of string. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Barbara Joyce To: Jean Nathan ; Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Jean, I'm sorry I can't be of any help with your question, but I have one for you. I've never seen this book and am enchanted with the photo of the cover. I'd like to give it a try, but I don't recall ever seeing the paper string for sale at any vendor's table or any Internet listing. Can anyone suggest a source for obtaining the paper strings? Oh! It just occurred to me that Alice Howell (Hi, Alice!) made an little angel with paper string wings and flower for the 2004 Arachne Christmas exchange. You can see it here (scroll down): http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Perhaps Alice can answer your question and/or mine! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer snip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Hello Jean I think Alice has answered the question about how to deal with knotting the threads. Re managing the paper strings without bobbins; you could try holding the coil together with a clothes peg, or a mini bulldog clip, or maybe just an elastic band. Brenda On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:39, Jean Nathan wrote: I mean the regular threads. If the piece is worked from the right side, the linen threads need to be on the back (somehow) if they're to be tied off. Not a problem if they are being cut off. At first glance, I think they'll need to be transferred to the back because there are only the two paper strings running all around the edge as thick gimps with just a pair of linen threads worked through them. Might find it's obvious when I get down to the bottom to finish off. At the moment I'm just trying to tame the pair of snakes along the top edge (it's the side actually on the finished piece). Two paper strings run all around the edge so they're fairly long. They won't wind on to bobbins, but I've managed to coil them to make them a bit more manageable. They're quite stiff and behave like springy wire. Jean - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Jean Nathan Cc: Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
