Re: [lace] Metallic thread for needlelace

2009-02-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Liz

I'm not a needle lacer but I've done enough to know what it's about and 
I personally wouldn't recommend using any thread which is wrapped, ie 
the metallic part is wraped around a silk or viscose core as the 
friction of pulling the thread through the work many times will cause 
the metallic wrapping to snag, pull away and expose the core thread,


Madeira No 40 and Sulky Metallic are both wrapped threads, as are most 
of the finer metallics.  I haven't seen Butterfly metallic but if it's 
a conventional twisted thread then use that.  Looking through Ed4 the 
finest of the readily available metallics is DMC Fil Or (Fil Argent if 
it's silver) which is probably similar to your Butterfly brand.  The 
DMC is 2Z/3S and although it won't separate easily I think you would be 
able to get a needlefull at a time.


Brenda

On 7 Feb 2009, at 04:44, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette around 
the edge,
and maybe(Probably) for some couronnes (the little fancy rings that 
are stab

stitched on afterwards.)

I have Madeira #40 gold 4,  Sulky Metallic, and Butterfly brand (a 3 
ply so

I would use only one of the plys, I think)

Question - Has anyone had any experience with using any of these for
Needlework - needlelace or Embroidery?
I am wondering how easily the gold splits and wears through to the 
cotton core

(I am presuming they all are made similarly)

Which one might be the easiest - or best- to use?


Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] Metallic thread for needlelace

2009-02-07 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Liz,
I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette around the edge,
and maybe(Probably) for some couronnes (the little fancy rings that are stab
stitched on afterwards.)

I have Madeira #40 gold 4,  Sulky Metallic, and Butterfly brand (a 3 ply so
I would use only one of the plys, I think)


When it came to tatting in fine metallics some years ago I tried them 
all and found that Kreinik Japan silver and gold were the best by far,

David


Question - Has anyone had any experience with using any of these for
Needlework - needlelace or Embroidery?
I am wondering how easily the gold splits and wears through to the cotton core
(I am presuming they all are made similarly)


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[lace] Metallic thread for needlelace

2009-02-06 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Whew!!!  It is H.O.T.  here - about 44ÂșC  - well beyond a joke!  And
Very strong winds.
They Say there will be a cool change arriving about 6 - 7pm -this evening.  I
just hope they are right!

Now - Help/advice please.

I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette around the edge,
and maybe(Probably) for some couronnes (the little fancy rings that are stab
stitched on afterwards.)

I have Madeira #40 gold 4,  Sulky Metallic, and Butterfly brand (a 3 ply so
I would use only one of the plys, I think)

Question - Has anyone had any experience with using any of these for
Needlework - needlelace or Embroidery?
I am wondering how easily the gold splits and wears through to the cotton core
(I am presuming they all are made similarly)

Which one might be the easiest - or best- to use?

Thanks in advance.
Regards from Liz in Melting Melbourne, Oz.  Where we would gladly swap some
heat for some cold!!! :))
lizl...@bigpond.com

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