[lace] netting
Rita Thanks for the link. I have long regarded your sites as among the very best for knotted netting. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Netting Books
Apparently I have much to learn about posting here. Over the past year I have been listing links to digitized books and magazines that contain information on netting on my blog ( http://knotsindeed.blogspot.com). I have been pleased at the number I have found. While most of the books and magazines are between 1840 and 1920, there is one as early as 1655 and as late as 1956. Rita Bartholomew - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] netting
more resources for square knotted netting http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/filetlacis Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Netting - Most Ancient Lace (Next memo about books)
Netting is thought to be the oldest form of lace. Impressions of Netting have been found in the surfaces of clay pottery that is many centuries old. In pre-history, Netting was made using a unique knot that would not unravel the entire net structure if a tear developed. It could be easily repaired. At first, it was used to make fishing nets, nets to trap small animals, and bags for carrying things. When it became refined, it was used for hair nets, snoods, and other things requiring very fine thread. This technique is still used today all over the world. In November 2013, I wrote a memo and reference material for the New England Lace Group's use at a Netting class taught by Rita Bartholomew. She will be giving another class at the January 2014 meeting, which reminded me to share Netting information with Arachne. On November 2, 2013, I discovered Netting Artist Stephanie Crossman, of Vinalhaven, Maine - _www.mainenetbags.com_ (http://www.mainenetbags.com) - at a Maine Crafts Guild museum show located in the Maine State Museum. When I exclaimed that some of her Netting was like lace art and introduced myself, she asked if I knew Lauran Sundan (Lauran makes lace with precious gold and silver and is an Arachne member). It was then that we knew we could talk lace. This Netting artist has a web site that features a limited selection of her creations. I suggest you look at each tab. Pocket bags, Shopping bags, Shawls and Scarves are what you would expect, though each is unique. But the one you really must view is Sculpture. The sculptures are made with very fine threads, using tiny old hand-made tools inherited from a great grandmother, not standard-size Netting needles. All these small thread sculptures were presented at the museum show in protective shadow boxes, none much more than 8 in height. The featured item is a Jelly Fish, and it was the first that caught my eye. It is shaped to puff out from the surface, somewhat like a child's balloon. Then, position your screen arrow over the Sand Dollar, Lady's Slipper (an endangered plant), Bird, Starfish,and Fish to enlarge other images. All are 3-D. Enjoy! Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Netting - Books - Memo 2 of 2
Content goes with Netting - Most Ancient Lace, same date For Netting research and instruction, there are chapters in books devoted to Netting, but fully-dedicated-to-the-subject books may be hard to find. IOLI (U.S. Lace Guild) has some, listed with their Needle Lace books: http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/iolilibrarylist.pdg N-065 Art of Netting from the Kliots - 112 p. reprint N-084 Beautiful Netting, by Rita Bartholomew - 66 p. for her classes N-057 Harper's Bazar (sic) Netting Patterns - 26 p. articles/patterns N-034 Knotting Netting, by Lisa Melen - 88 p. hardback N-082 Make Nets, Here's How, by H.T. Ludgate - 72 p. N-066 Priscilla Netting Book - 40 p. At the Caen OIDFA Congress, a German book dealer offered Knotting and Netting - The Art of Filet Work - Designs, Materials, Techniques, originally published in Sweden in 1971, and re-published in the U.S. by Van Nostrand Reinhold in 1972. Library of Congress # 72-1857 and ISBN # 0-442-29958-3. I looked at the Netting section, illustrated with pictures, before buying. It would be worthwhile to try to borrow from InterLibrary Loan. Netting Artist Stephanie Crossman, Vinalhaven, Maine (one of the larger islands off the Maine coast) told me about a newer Netting book written on the island, Nets Through Time - The Technique and Art of Knotted Netting, by Jacqueline Davidson, Maine Authors Publishing, 2012, 155 p. softcover, ISBN 978-1-936447-34-3. (I ordered direct from Davidson.) Contents: Technique, Tools, Early History, Nets for Utility, Lace (50 p.), Nets for Ceremonies Celebrations, Contemporary Fiber Art. If you tour New England historic homes, sometimes you will come across a Netted bed canopy (for Summer use). They were, of course, a luxury! Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Netting - Books - Memo 2 of 2
Content goes with Netting - Most Ancient Lace, same date For Netting research and instruction, there are chapters in books devoted to Netting, but fully-dedicated-to-the-subject books may be hard to find. IOLI (U.S. Lace Guild) has some, listed with their Needle Lace books: http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/iolilibrarylist.pdg N-065 Art of Netting from the Kliots - 112 p. reprint N-084 Beautiful Netting, by Rita Bartholomew - 66 p. for her classes N-057 Harper's Bazar (sic) Netting Patterns - 26 p. articles/patterns N-034 Knotting Netting, by Lisa Melen - 88 p. hardback N-082 Make Nets, Here's How, by H.T. Ludgate - 72 p. N-066 Priscilla Netting Book - 40 p. At the Caen OIDFA Congress, a German book dealer offered Knotting and Netting - The Art of Filet Work - Designs, Materials, Techniques, originally published in Sweden in 1971, and re-published in the U.S. by Van Nostrand Reinhold in 1972. Library of Congress # 72-1857 and ISBN # 0-442-29958-3. I looked at the Netting section, illustrated with pictures, before buying. It would be worthwhile to try to borrow from InterLibrary Loan. Netting Artist Stephanie Crossman, Vinalhaven, Maine (one of the larger islands off the Maine coast) told me about a newer Netting book written on the island, Nets Through Time - The Technique and Art of Knotted Netting, by Jacqueline Davidson, Maine Authors Publishing, 2012, 155 p. softcover, ISBN 978-1-936447-34-3. (I ordered direct from Davidson.) Contents: Technique, Tools, Early History, Nets for Utility, Lace (50 p.), Nets for Ceremonies Celebrations, Contemporary Fiber Art. If you tour New England historic homes, sometimes you will come across a Netted bed canopy (for Summer use). They were, of course, a luxury! Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Netting the Small Fry
I wanted to send out an email to anyone that I was communicating with regarding Netting the Small Fry. If you have not heard from me in the past week, please send me an email. I had several folders in my email become corrupted, and I have tried to make new lists of everyone I was discussing things with. Fortunately I had paper copies of most everything, but just in case there is anyone that squeeked by and was lost, I would love to hear from you. Additionally, if there is anyone that is still interested in participating but has not yet contacted me, please contact me by May 1st. I am putting the final touches on things now and will likely not have room to add anyone after May 1st. Thanks, Kim - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] Netting and embroidery on net
They found a frame with embroidered netting in a storeroom in the compound where I work. Here are some pictures of it: http://picasaweb.google.com/srclaireedith/FoundNetting?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyNmJ6 iuILSlQ It's pretty dirty. Does anyone know how I can clean it without removing it from the frame? I'd like display it as-is. Sr. Claire = I like Orvus, which is used by soaking the article in question and then rinsing. I would think that making a solution of Orvus and putting it in a spray bottle, then spraying the work in situ, followed by a spray of clear water until no bubbles appear might work. Repeat as necessary. It doesn't look like the device holding the work would suffer any loss from this procedure either. Patty - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Netting and embroidery on net
They found a frame with embroidered netting in a storeroom in the compound where I work. Here are some pictures of it: http://picasaweb.google.com/srclaireedith/FoundNetting?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyNmJ6iuILSlQ It's pretty dirty. Does anyone know how I can clean it without removing it from the frame? I'd like display it as-is. Sr. Claire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] netting
Sr. Claire I'd recommend vacuuming. But first lay some window screen, or plastic canvas on top, then vacuum. The screening will avoid damaging the embroidery. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Netting
Jane said We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. It's the mesh stick, not the needle, which controls the size of the holes in the net. But I think that a shuttle shaped thread holder might be fiddly to hold, and you'd need to have the convoluted loops of the knot bigger than they perhaps need to be to thread it through. The knot is tricky enough to do anyway without fighting with the equipment. Having said that, the needle and mesh stick need to be in proportion with each other. If you are making a course net with a thickish thread, then a fine netting needle wouldn't be able to hold much thread. Conversely, if you are making a fine net, a large netting needle with a fine mesh stick would be awkward to handle. I have quite a collection of both new and antique netting tools - no-one seems much interested in the old ones and I have found them at good prices - but have yet to dedicate the time needed to become relaxed and speedy doing the knot. The actual embroidery bit seems like it should be a piece of cake compared to doing the net. I read yesterday about an analogy for doing things in life. If you take life as being a glass jar, and the things you must do or really want to do as large stones, then you have to fit the stones into the jar. The things that you would quite like to do are medium size stones, and they will fit into the spaces between the big ones. Finally all the things which take up time, but aren't really important are sand, and of course there is room to get lots and lots of sand between all the stones. The problem is when the sand, like playing computer games or staying in bed way too late, starts pushing out the stones. You need to allow the space for those big, important stones. Netting is a middle size stone, and I have too much sand. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Netting
Hi all, Margaret Morgan teaches netting here in Australia and I did her class in Brisbane at the Australian Lace Guild AGM. One of the hardest techniques to pick up. The knot is very involved and goes wrong if you loose concentration. I finished one small doyley in class over 2 days (and much of the night inbetween) and have completed another since but now that I have mastered the basics and can understand the process I might leave it at that. Not for the feint hearted but a great thing to do. Margaret was a great teacher and I don't think I ever would have picked it up from a book. Regards Annette Meldrum in a wet and cold Wollongong Australia -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of laceandb...@aol.com Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 7:16 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Netting Jane said We used netting needles at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. Netting is a middle size stone, and I have too much sand. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] netting
Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do both netting and tatting. A netting needle doesn't hold nearly as much as a tatting shuttle. You can't fill a netting shuttle too full because then it won't go through the holes of the netting or it will stretch the holes while you're forming the knots. Netting needles only hold a couple yards. I do both netting and tatting, too, and here is my comment: The amount a netting needle will hold depends partly on the length of the netting needle. I always wind mine figure-8 fashion, so the thread bulks out to the sides. I have one netting needle that I put a 20-yard skein of embroidery floss on, and I think at the time I was doing quarter-inch mesh with it. To do a circular net, in order for the shuttle to fit, instead of just making a tail, I put a couple of yards on another netting shuttle and worked the center rounds with that, then switched to the more-full shuttle. You could use a tatting shuttle for netting, *but* the mesh would have to be big enough to fit the width of the tatting shuttle through. Basically, what I have found, whether I am working big nets for bags or fine hair-net mesh, is that tatting shuttles work best for tatting, and netting shuttles, whether the needle type or one of the netting shuttle types, work best for netting! :) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] netting
this is a nice website for making netting. they use a wierd needle that does the same job as a tatting shuttle. net making would be a nice use for a shuttle. i don't know how much thread a shuttle will hold, but this needle holds quite a few rounds. http://knotsindeed.com/learn/t-fill.html from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] netting
I do both netting and tatting. A netting needle doesn't hold nearly as much as a tatting shuttle. You can't fill a netting shuttle too full because then it won't go through the holes of the netting or it will stretch the holes while you're forming the knots. Netting needles only hold a couple yards. A reasonably large shuttle can hold quite a bit more. It would be extremely difficult to make netting with a tatting shuttle because it's too large to fit through the holes. You really need something long and narrow. I have seen examples of netting in which the lacemaker used her netting needle as a shuttle and tatting a round of a doily. I've done some experimenting with Celtic tatting using a netting needle because it could fit through closed rings, unlike a tatting shuttle. Avital -Original Message- this is a nice website for making netting. they use a wierd needle that does the same job as a tatting shuttle. net making would be a nice use for a shuttle. i don't know how much thread a shuttle will hold, but this needle holds quite a few rounds. http://knotsindeed.com/learn/t-fill.html from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] netting
that is something to think about when making your own tatting shuttle. i will have to buy a netting needle to get a better look at it. a thin dowel wrapped in thread would do the trick. dowels come in very thin sizes. it would also save adding on a new thread in the middle of netting. knots are the last thing you need unless they are put there by the design. i would love to try needle laces from netting. it would be no fun to make hand made lace on machine made netting. it takes the whole fun out of the job. net needle lace is much more versatile and you don't have any fancy procedures or number of bobbins to add to put the picture or design in. not to mention the equipment is much cheaper. --- Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do both netting and tatting. A netting needle doesn't hold nearly as much as a tatting shuttle. You can't fill a netting shuttle too full because then it won't go through the holes of the netting or it will stretch the holes while you're forming the knots. Netting needles only hold a couple yards. A reasonably large shuttle can hold quite a bit more. It would be extremely difficult to make netting with a tatting shuttle because it's too large to fit through the holes. You really need something long and narrow. I have seen examples of netting in which the lacemaker used her netting needle as a shuttle and tatting a round of a doily. I've done some experimenting with Celtic tatting using a netting needle because it could fit through closed rings, unlike a tatting shuttle. Avital -Original Message- this is a nice website for making netting. they use a wierd needle that does the same job as a tatting shuttle. net making would be a nice use for a shuttle. i don't know how much thread a shuttle will hold, but this needle holds quite a few rounds. http://knotsindeed.com/learn/t-fill.html from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] netting needles on lacis
here are netting needles in just about every size color and shape. i wonder if the norwegian style works with small lace net making. the advertisement says this style holds more thread. http://www.lacis.com/catalog/data/n_lacenettingfilet.html#LC04 from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] netting needles on lacis
The Norwegian-style needles are not intended for lace net and will not work. They're for shopping bags, tennis ball holders, basketball hoop nets, lobster traps, and other coarse nets. I think it would be a good idea for you to go back to Rita Bartholomew's site and see how netting is actually done. The needle must be small enough to go through the holes of the net. Avital -Original Message- here are netting needles in just about every size color and shape. i wonder if the norwegian style works with small lace net making. the advertisement says this style holds more thread. http://www.lacis.com/catalog/data/n_lacenettingfilet.html#LC04 from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] netting question
Betty Ann I did not go to the event that you spoke of, but, it sounds very much like the thread holder netting that I use with my serger sewing machine. You should check you local sewing machine store and see if they have it. Ysandra - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
