Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 06:21:51PM -0400, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hi Amanda ! Hi! Thanks for your reply! Mary Niven's book (republished last year) is an excellent resource for that [Flanders]. This would be the Step by Step Guide? Moving into Binche, one readily available (from lace vendors) option is the series of Syllabus Binche from Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet (there are three in the series). However, this is best used if you have a teacher at hand who can help you with each step of the way. Just out of curiosity, is the need for a teacher because the syllabus lacks all the details (doesn't have complete diagrams, etc) or because of intangibles like a need for correct tension? I've never had a teacher so I don't know if I'm missing out on the latter category by doing things my own way. So far I've stuck to books with good diagrams, except for the Russian Lace which I'm just having fun with. Another option is the Binche Study Guide prepared by Michael Giusiana, which gives the student a specific list of samples which should be worked as one progresses through the levels. Tell me more :) Is this in print or electrons? Giusiana's samples are drawn from a comprehensive list of books which include Verbeke-Billiet's, his own four books (including one which is out of print), and several others by Ulrike Lohr, Ermute Wesenburg, and others. This sounds more complete but also more expensive in the end :) Michael's Study Guide is something he is happy for us to share with each other! He has sent it to anyone who wants it, and has given us permission to send it on to our friends. I would definitely be interested in this whether it be in email or on paper. I'm not ready to dive in just yet, but it would be nice to have something to look at while I dream. Thanks, Amanda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
Hello, everyone. I've lurked on the list for a long time but am making lace more these days and looking forward to my first Ithaca lace day... anyway, I thought I'd respond to Clay: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 06:12:11PM -0400, Clay Blackwell wrote: So warning... don't try baby Binche to prepare yourself for Olive Branches unless you're ready for the long haul... because you'll be hooked!! ; ) I've had my sights set on Binche for a long time - basically ever since I heard of it. For once I want to take it slow (I have the rest of my life to make lace and don't want to run out of things to learn!) and not just dive right into the deep end. But Olive Branches is a big temptation to do just that! To keep me from giving in and cutting right to the chase, where can I find this baby Binche to get started with? Are there good books? And does anyone have suggestions on the best path to follow to work one's way up to Binche? I understand Flanders is involved. Thanks, Amanda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
Hi Amanda ! Actually, there are several excellent and well-thought-out courses of action for someone interested in studying Binche. Most people who want to pursue Binche (one of the Continental laces), begin by working on Flanders lace. Mary Niven's book (republished last year) is an excellent resource for that. Moving into Binche, one readily available (from lace vendors) option is the series of Syllabus Binche from Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet (there are three in the series). However, this is best used if you have a teacher at hand who can help you with each step of the way. Another option is the Binche Study Guide prepared by Michael Giusiana, which gives the student a specific list of samples which should be worked as one progresses through the levels. Giusiana's samples are drawn from a comprehensive list of books which include Verbeke-Billiet's, his own four books (including one which is out of print), and several others by Ulrike Lohr, Ermute Wesenburg, and others. He recommends that a student following this course of study meet at least yearly with a teacher with whom they can get feedback and assistance. He comes to the U.S. each summer (but not this summer!) to teach small groups in workshops and provide this supervision of study. Michael's Study Guide is something he is happy for us to share with each other! He has sent it to anyone who wants it, and has given us permission to send it on to our friends. Clay - Original Message - From: Amanda Babcock Furrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights Hello, everyone. I've lurked on the list for a long time but am making lace more these days and looking forward to my first Ithaca lace day... anyway, I thought I'd respond to Clay: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 06:12:11PM -0400, Clay Blackwell wrote: So warning... don't try baby Binche to prepare yourself for Olive Branches unless you're ready for the long haul... because you'll be hooked!! ; ) I've had my sights set on Binche for a long time - basically ever since I heard of it. For once I want to take it slow (I have the rest of my life to make lace and don't want to run out of things to learn!) and not just dive right into the deep end. But Olive Branches is a big temptation to do just that! To keep me from giving in and cutting right to the chase, where can I find this baby Binche to get started with? Are there good books? And does anyone have suggestions on the best path to follow to work one's way up to Binche? I understand Flanders is involved. Thanks, Amanda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
I have to agree with you, Robin! And, I agree with you about Binche... or at least, I did two years ago! Then, I discovered Catherine's Olive Branches, and decided to learn more about Binche. I discovered that making Binche is way more fun for me than any other lace I've ever done... it is such a challenge to learn all the new things at first, and then it really keeps your attention because it's so complex. I really don't much care for some of the really old congested stuff... just too busy to be able to discern a nice pattern. But in order to enjoy doing the new stuff, I've learned to do the old, and in so doing, have come to appreciate *some* of the older stuff a lot more. So warning... don't try baby Binche to prepare yourself for Olive Branches unless you're ready for the long haul... because you'll be hooked!! ; ) Clay - Original Message - From: Panza, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have pushed your book up my list of wants simply because it will make a wonderful alternative to tiling the bathroom. As a satisfied customer, I'll put in that the book is worth having for more than just wallpaper! Her Chrysanthemum book has excellent, detailed instructions and clear diagrams on making and *on designing*. Her Olive Branches Binche pattern is absolutely gorgeous (this from someone that's not all that impressed with much Binche) and the pattern comes with more info and pattern variants than I've ever seen in *any* pattern packet. Both are well worth the investment. usual disclaimers, Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
Friendly Spiders, On the off-chance you're not completely bored with this topic... here are MY answers to frequently asked copyright questions for MY book An Introduction to Chrysanthemum Lace and other teaching materials. * Can I make copies of the prickings for my own use? YES! Make zillions, I don't care. Wallpaper your bathroom with them--whatever you do with them for YOU is fine. * Can I make copies of the prickings and give them to friends? NO; If you're feeling generous, buy them the book. * Can I make copies of the prickings and give them to my students? No, see above. If you're teaching, you should be either 1) teaching from a book or materials you have each student purchase, or 2) teaching from materials you have developed personally. * Can I put photos of lace I've worked from your books on my web site: YES, and if you're a sweetie, you'll put the name of the designer too. KANT magazine publishes patterns with two names: Designed by XXX and Realization by XXX. While Realization is an admittedly awkward translation, it does get across that the piece was a team effort. * Can I sell lace that I've made from the patterns in your book? Please contact me and discuss it with me in person--my rule of thumb is that if you're planning on selling more than five pieces of lace by my design, then we need to work out a royalty arrangement, whereby I get to be part of your success. Onesy-twosy sales don't bother me at all, but it is always nice to be asked. * If I make a new design using the ideas and petals from your book, is it mine? If you design it, it's yours. * How much do I have to change something to make it mine? There is no hard-and-fast rule here; millions of dollars in lawyers' fees are spent on this very question daily. Search your heart, and if you have doubts, then change it some more. My advice: send me a copy and ask me if I think its different enough. Since there is virtually no money to be made form lace, I think you'll find designers more interested in having people create new work than aggressively protecting their own. * Can I give away copies of pages in your book, if it's for a non-profit organization? No; again, if you want to donate something to the organization, buy them the book and donate it. My time is not yours to donate. * Do you own the copyright for Chrysanthemum Lace? Absolutely not. It was around long before me, and hopefully will be around long after. I own copyrights only on the patterns I have designed in my book and the text and illustrations. * What about the pattern in your book not designed by you? Can I copy it for friends? NO! As part of the book, it is covered by my copyright; as part of licensing arrangement, Ms Verbeke-Billet gets a royalty for every instance of that pattern I sell. * Can I copy instructions from your classes for others? No. Please contact me, and I will happily sell you a copy for your friend for very modest fee. * I just want one pattern out of your book, and not the whole book. Can I copy just one page from a friend's book? No. The number of pages is irrelevant. Please contact me, and I'll make arrangements to sell you the one pattern for a very modest fee. If I'm in a good mood I may just give it to you, but it remains my choice to give my rights away, not yours. Bottom Line: Lacemaking is a team effort between designer and lace maker; good team members communicate with each other. When in doubt, contact the author and ask them personally. I have met no author or designer who would be bothered by this type of inquiry. PS: the most frequently asked question: Your book is selling really well--are you making a lot of money on it? NO! EMPHATICALLY NO!!! Writing books is excelled only by lacemaking in its ability to turn vast amounts of time into excessively small amounts of money. I'm just in it for the cute boys. But, come to think of it... Cathy Belleville Los Altos CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bitbetter.com/lace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] One Designer's Input on Her Copyrights
In a message dated 27/08/2004 19:28:33 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Can I make copies of the prickings for my own use? YES! Make zillions, I don't care. Wallpaper your bathroom with them--whatever you do with them for YOU is fine. snipped PS: the most frequently asked question: Your book is selling really well--are you making a lot of money on it? NO! EMPHATICALLY NO!!! Writing books is excelled only by lacemaking in its ability to turn vast amounts of time into excessively small amounts of money. I'm just in it for the cute boys. But, come to think of it... Cathy Belleville Cathy, Thank you for your thoughts on this - I have to say that for the first time the subject of copyrights has made me laugh. I have pushed your book up my list of wants simply because it will make a wonderful alternative to tiling the bathroom. On a more serious note, the key thing here is what you've said - 'writing books is excelled only by lacemaking in it's ability to turn vast amounts of time into excessively small amounts of money' If I wanted to be a millionaire from my craft, then I would make something else. Regards Liz in London I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
