Re: [lace] PG lace

2003-10-15 Thread Ruth Budge
In her book Malmesbury Lace, Joan Blanchard gives details of her extensive
research into this particular lace.  
On page 26, she says:   The traditional Malmesbury bobbins were, like those at
Downton, unspangled.  This is because the thread used was very fine, and the
weight of spangles would have snapped the thread.  However, whereas the Downton
bobbins are tapered and some have pictures of birds on them., the
Malmesbury bobbins are straight and plain, with a flat end.

On page 28, however, she says:  Today, Malmesbury lace is similar to Downton. 
Originally, it may not have been, judging by the differences in the shape of
the bobbins (as we have seen from the examples in the museum) and in the style
of the pillows, Downton's being roller pillows and Malmesbury's very round, and
larger than Honiton's.  Also, Downton workers have their footside on the left,
while Malmesbury workers have theirs on the right. 

So, at least as far as Joan's research is concerned, the similarity would
appear to be in the thread used, the style of bobbins and at least these days,
in the patterns, rather than the placement of the footside.

Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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 If I'm right, some malmesbury lace is also worked that way
 
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[lace] PG lace

2003-10-14 Thread Annette Gill
 Dear Annette,
 ...
 I've also done some Downton lace - again, not difficult, although
 traditionally, like Chantilly, the headside is worked on the opposite side
to
 Bucks.  But watch the Downton patterns carefully, as they occasionally
have a
 little Torchon technique or two thrown in!!

 Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

I'm intrigued to hear of an English lace being worked with the headside on
the right, as on the Continent.  I suppose there wouldn't be a problem with
reversing the pricking and doing it the way I'm used to?  (the photocopier
at work can reverse images)  Or would that make life difficult in some
obscure way I'm not aware of?  Would the lace police come in the middle of
the night to take me away? :)

Regards,
Annette, London

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Re: [lace] PG lace

2003-10-14 Thread Ruth Budge
I'm intrigued to hear of an English lace being worked with the headside on
the right, as on the Continent. I suppose there wouldn't be a problem with
reversing the pricking and doing it the way I'm used to? (the photocopier
at work can reverse images) Or would that make life difficult in some
obscure way I'm not aware of? Would the lace police come in the middle of
the night to take me away? :)

Regards,
Annette, London

Annette - the only problem might be if you were trying to follow the working
diagram, which will also show the footside on the left.  I tried Downton when I
was very new to lacemaking, and found it easier to turn the pricking round and
work as shown in the working diagram till I knew what I was doing.  

On the other hand, maybe the lace police might take you to Dorchester, then
you'd get there sooner!!

Bertha Kemp, in her book Downton Lace, describes a method of hanging numerous
bobbins together off a pin behind the start of the work, then separating them
to work the first row of pinholes, rather in the style of some of the
Continental laces, such as Flanders, so I'm speculating that the custom of
Downton lace having the footside on the left started because the original
lacemakers were taught or influenced by continental lacemakers.

Regards, Ruth Budge 

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