[lace] Preference of book format
Like many of you I much prefer a real book to a CD, and if there's more than a couple of sentences that I really need to understand I have to print out a hard copy. That plus the problems of the limited life expectancy of a CD mean that I say give me a proper book any day. However, an accompanying CD of any patterns in the book would be good because printing from file is usually much more accurate than photocopying or scanning, especially of the pages are tightly bound. OK, depending on your computer/printer set up some things will print larger or smaller, but the overall length:width ratio doesn't change unless it's told to. Most photocopiers do distort that ratio. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Preference of book format
Hello all, I must admit that one could see this as an "off-lace" topic, but I for one, have been enlightened concerning the pros and cons of books versus media. It is all a part of lace to me. I live in an area that has no other lacer that I know of within a 50 minute drive of me without my books, cd's and whatnot, my threads would probably not be made into laceThe internet is a vital part of lacemaking to me. Selling off copies of books or CDs is always a problem copyright and giving credit where credit is due - and the proper ways to go about doing so can be confusing. It never hurts to be reminded of the procedures, and with all of us doing so many different kinds of lace, where would we be without our books, prickings, and such. I have been following this line of talk all morning and found it fascinating. Thanks everyone, Susie Morris, IL - Original Message - From: Barron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Preference of book format personally I'm enjoying all the different points of view jenny barron Scotland Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we contact her 'off list'. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Preference of book format
personally I'm enjoying all the different points of view jenny barron Scotland Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we contact her 'off list'. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we contact her 'off list'. As she says in her message she will provide a summary. It's not impossible that there is some interesting 'lace' content in some of the reply messages but the subject line discourages one from want to bother opening the message 'just in case'. Maybe I'm just being a 'grumpy old woman', but is this really lace! Andrea Lamble Cambridge, UK, but off to Portugal tomorrow for a week to visit my father who moved there a few years ago. > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:09:01 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com> Subject: [lace] Preference of book format> > I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD?> > Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond.> > Carole> Dublin, OH USA> > -> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:> unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to> [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Feel like a local wherever you go. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well I have swung all day, backwards and forewards but really do think the absolute ideal is part book, part disc, as the ladies say to be able to print off patterns from the disc really is the very best option. It certainly has been a brain teaser all day:-) in an ideal world. Sue T, chilly dull Dorset UK Naturally, when I make an absolute statement, it doesn't take long for me to contradict myself!! Jean Nathan mentioned Jane Atkinson's book on disk, and this is a good example. I did not "discover" Jean's book until it was OOP, and so was thrilled to learn about the CD. As soon as I got it, I spent lots of time looking at it. The beauty of Jane's book on disk is that the images are extremely in high definition, and all in color, so that if you want a closer look, all you have to do is enlarge the image on your screen with no pixillation until you get very, very close. This was just a revelation for me! I loved being able to do that in a lace-related book. But... because I do prefer to curl up with a book, I took the time to print out Jane's book, which I then comb-bound, including a pocket for the CD. Now, it's possible to curl up with the book, read to my heart's content, and when I want a better look, take the CD to the computer. So I don't feel deprived for not having gotten one of the original "hard copies" of the book! (And it is a great one!) Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA A book every time! I had a choice of Jane Akinson's book "Pattern Design for Torchon Lace" new on CD or secondhand in book form - I chose the book. Price had nothing to do with the choice. Books are much easier to peruse at leisure and almost at any time, anywhere. I also find I can usually remember which book I saw a pattern in and can go to that book immediately, but I canlt do that with CDs. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I guess I have to pop in here. Sometimes the preference...book or CDis an age thing, too. I , like many of you, prefer to settle in with a book..to study and read patterns. I suppose that, like Clay says, the optimum vehicle is a nice glossy book with a pocket for a CD. (This harkens back to the time when books included cardboard patterns ready to prick). But I want a book with the instructions. Printing out at home and then taking to be spiral bound is not practical for many people. I have printed out such, , then placed in sheet protectors...in a loose-leaf notebook. Good, but cumbersome and NOT a substitute for a book!. But then I love books and can always find space for one more. Smiles BarbE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean Nathan ; Lace Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Preference of Book format Naturally, when I make an absolute statement, it doesn't take long for me to contradict myself!! Jean Nathan mentioned Jane Atkinson's book on disk, and this is a good example. I did not "discover" Jean's book until it was OOP, and so was thrilled to learn about the CD. As soon as I got it, I spent lots of time looking at it. The beauty of Jane's book on disk is that the images are extremely in high definition, and all in color, so that if you want a closer look, all you have to do is enlarge the image on your screen with no pixillation until you get very, very close. This was just a revelation for me! I loved being able to do that in a lace-related book. But... because I do prefer to curl up with a book, I took the time to print out Jane's book, which I then comb-bound, including a pocket for the CD. Now, it's possible to curl up with the book, read to my heart's content, and when I want a better look, take the CD to the computer. So I don't feel deprived for not having gotten one of the original "hard copies" of the book! (And it is a great one!) Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't know why this is on both Lace and Lace-chat, as it's clearly a lace > topic, so I'm restricting my reply to Lace to save getting it twice. > > A book every time! > > I had a choice of Jane Akinson's book "Pattern Design for Torchon Lace" new > on CD or secondhand in book form - I chose the book. Price had nothing to do > with the choice. Books are much easier to peruse at leisure and almost at > any time, anywhere. I also find I can usually remember which book I saw a > pattern in and can go to that book immediately, but I canlt do that with > CDs. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Preference of Book format
Naturally, when I make an absolute statement, it doesn't take long for me to contradict myself!! Jean Nathan mentioned Jane Atkinson's book on disk, and this is a good example. I did not "discover" Jean's book until it was OOP, and so was thrilled to learn about the CD. As soon as I got it, I spent lots of time looking at it. The beauty of Jane's book on disk is that the images are extremely in high definition, and all in color, so that if you want a closer look, all you have to do is enlarge the image on your screen with no pixillation until you get very, very close. This was just a revelation for me! I loved being able to do that in a lace-related book. But... because I do prefer to curl up with a book, I took the time to print out Jane's book, which I then comb-bound, including a pocket for the CD. Now, it's possible to curl up with the book, read to my heart's content, and when I want a better look, take the CD to the computer. So I don't feel deprived for not having gotten one of the original "hard copies" of the book! (And it is a great one!) Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't know why this is on both Lace and Lace-chat, as it's clearly a lace > topic, so I'm restricting my reply to Lace to save getting it twice. > > A book every time! > > I had a choice of Jane Akinson's book "Pattern Design for Torchon Lace" new > on CD or secondhand in book form - I chose the book. Price had nothing to do > with the choice. Books are much easier to peruse at leisure and almost at > any time, anywhere. I also find I can usually remember which book I saw a > pattern in and can go to that book immediately, but I canlt do that with > CDs. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Preference of book format
Dear Carole Yes, I would opt for a CD such as you describe - it would take up less room than a book, and I am seriously short of shelfspace! It would be wonderful to be able to print out patterns as one needed them - the pricking straight onto card - and I assume would make scaling up or down very easy. I don't think I would print out the whole book. Thank you for the brilliant idea. Bridget, in Watford, England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Preference of book format
Hi Carole (and everyone) I can see that there are good points about both. With the CD there is the fact that it takes up almost no space (but would I lose it?) Just printing off the prickings would be great, no scanning or photocopying. But even if you could blow up the illustrations you can't use a magnifying glass on a screen and I like to have a good look. On the whole I think I prefer the book, there is something to get hold of and if you need to look at it while you're working it's there right beside you. I think that if you need to print off bits so that you can refer to them, well, you might as well buy a book. I work in an academic library and you would think that with all the computer resources, data bases, web sites etc that are now available we wouldn't be buying as many books, but that isn't the case. I don't think that there's anything to beat a book, but I guess I'm biased. Alison in Essex UK where it's dull and miserable - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Preference of book format
My personal choice would be a glossy, coloured printed book for perusing in bed - with a CD of the prickings in various grid sizes and the photos so I can enlarge them on the screen to see "just how they did that bit" Hows that for decadent? Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Preference of Book format
Don't know why this is on both Lace and Lace-chat, as it's clearly a lace topic, so I'm restricting my reply to Lace to save getting it twice. A book every time! I had a choice of Jane Akinson's book "Pattern Design for Torchon Lace" new on CD or secondhand in book form - I chose the book. Price had nothing to do with the choice. Books are much easier to peruse at leisure and almost at any time, anywhere. I also find I can usually remember which book I saw a pattern in and can go to that book immediately, but I canlt do that with CDs. Having said that, I do have a book of Victorian lace cards which also has a CD of all the images in the book with it, so the cards can either be photocopied or printed from the CD for use in making other cards. I it extremely useful to have both methods of reproduction available. I can also make all sorts of alterations to the images on the computer, which canlt be done with a photocopy. Of course, I could scan on to the computer and then make alterations, but having them on CD already speeds thing up by cutting out that part of the process. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Preference of book format
I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD? Hi, it's a book for me too, I'd be worried about obsolescence, though a CD to print prickings out from would be handy - one of my bugbears with books is prickings printed too close to the spine. jenny barron beautiful sunny morning in Scotland, lovely red sky - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Preference of book format
I really, really, really dislike 'reading' a book on the computer. So I rarely buy CDs, since I have to print them out and the cost of ink is more than buying a softcover book! For me to buy a CD, the patterns would have to be spectacularly spectacular. On 24 Oct 2007, at 18:09, Carole Lassak wrote: I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD? Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond. Carole Dublin, OH USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Carol I would purchase a pattern book on a CD. I would expect to see the pattern, a pricking and hints for working. How much to pay would depend on how many patterns I am getting on the CD and how detailed the instructions are. EX: If I am just getting prickings with no instructions, I should pay less. Several patterns handled with prickings, sample workings, and a working description for each pattern may mean the cost would be higher, much like we see in the paper media. Susie Johnson Website: http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/ Morris Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would prefer to buy it on CD and only print what I would need to use from it when I need to use it for various reasons. - Space - Environment Are the main two. Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carole Lassak Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: [!! SPAM] [lace] Preference of book format I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD? Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond. Carole Dublin, OH USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Preference of book format
I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD? Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond. Carole Dublin, OH USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]