Re: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Dora wrote, I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! To which Tamara responded, And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on laughing out loud for many years to come. (snip) I don't know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! I must admit that I also read Dora's message in a totally different way than which others here seemed to have read it. She didn't upset me at all and I have lived through a mail bomb attempt on the life of my husband, have lived behind a police cordon during an IRA seige in London in the 1970s (Balcombe St seige for those who remember) and stood on a the same London platform where the IRA planted 40lb of plastic explosives packed around with coach bolts. My first reaction was to agree with her comment about London being a big place because I remember just enough from my study of statistics at University to figure out how unlucky one would be in a city of 7 () million people to be in one of those locations at that vital point in time. Statistically the odds against it are very large. Fran - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
In a message dated 7/11/2005 1:43:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first reaction was to agree with her comment about London being a big place because I remember just enough from my study of statistics at University to figure out how unlucky one would be in a city of 7 () million people to be in one of those locations at that vital point in time. Statistically the odds against it are very large. This is true. I read a book once -- the name and title escape me now -- by a police expert on avoiding dangerous situations. Among his bits of advice, he made the point very effectively that people tend to over-react to situations like these, and it doesn't help to panic or overestimate risk: quite the contrary! And I agree with those who advocate tolerance and understanding toward our gentle e-community here Ricki Torrey Salt Lake City, Utah - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
Dora wrote, I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! To which Tamara responded, And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on laughing out loud for many years to come. But what Tamara did NOT include in her response was a very important sentence in Dora's note... Honestly, I read this expecting to see people carrying a personal emergency kit in case of terrorism! (which was followed by the description of her knapsack) So I believe that we can safely assume that Dora was laughing at her own mistaken understanding of the personal emergency kit, and NOT at the horrible experiences everyone even remotely connected to the latest acts of terrorism have endured. It is good to laugh at your own mistakes. I don't know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
i hate to see people slammed or flamed because someone jumped to conclusions. it seems everything anyone says is wrong sometimes even if they meant well. i have been there, and i don't want to argue with anyone. i am not getting involved with any side of any story, but i think it would have been nice to not have 100 people writing nasty letters to myself or someone else because of one letter that someone misunderstood. i didn't read Dora's letter, but if she is going through what i already had to a while ago, i hope the moderator will do her job and put a stop to it. iI'msure i am the last person any of you would have liked to have a response from! i am also sure eevery timemy name is on this list someone cringes, but i don't really care. this website is a nice way to learn lace as a hobby, and it is also nice to talk to others who can help each other out when they are confused or totally lost. it's a shame people aren't as careful as they wish ootherswere about what they write. i see a lot of careless aaccusationsabout other countries and other people's governments, but i see no one flaming or slamming them. i wish other people on this website would acknowledge the letters as you know they were meant to be for each letter that someone sends that says something different. if everyone on this website would do that, then these things would die down quicker. Making someone feel like they have been alienated by an entire list of people who are usually quick to reply to anything could be turned around if the lurkers would send a nice letter like what was just sent by clay blackwell. I'll remind you again i don't really care what you think, but I'll bet we are all hoping to here more about what was in Dora's bag then what someone took so offensively in her letter. we can all have one then,, and i think we are all going to need them. in America we have our emergency car bags that include a blanket, candles, flares, jumper cables, food, bottled water, flashlights, pocket knives, rope, a tarp, chains, and a battery powered radio that will pick up weather channels. what could someone carry around with them to help them in an emergency like this? i also agree with Dora because i don't drive. i walk, ride a bike or find a ride with someone. i usually carry a purse with food, a drink, a pocket knife, a miniature flashlight, a cell phone if you have one, but a blanket is hard to fit in a purse. it would better for everyone if you would just print suggestions on what to bring instead of sending nasty letters. we are all going to end up with gigantic walls built between each country or state to attempt to stop this crappy terrorism, and then 100 years later we will all celebrate it being torn down just like the china wall. there is no cure for terrorism and pointless to argue with people unless you were at al quada's gate. save the hate for them. --- Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dora wrote, I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! To which Tamara responded, And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on laughing out loud for many years to come. But what Tamara did NOT include in her response was a very important sentence in Dora's note... Honestly, I read this expecting to see people carrying a personal emergency kit in case of terrorism! (which was followed by the description of her knapsack) So I believe that we can safely assume that Dora was laughing at her own mistaken understanding of the personal emergency kit, and NOT at the horrible experiences everyone even remotely connected to the latest acts of terrorism have endured. It is good to laugh at your own mistakes. I don't know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
i sent my letter through spell check before i mailed to avoid the insults of the spelling error obsessions of other lacers and still there are a few, so if anyone could explain the errors after that i would love to know. --- susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hate to see people slammed or flamed because someone jumped to conclusions. it seems everything anyone says is wrong sometimes even if they meant well. i have been there, and i don't want to argue with anyone. i am not getting involved with any side of any story, but i think it would have been nice to not have 100 people writing nasty letters to myself or someone else because of one letter that someone misunderstood. i didn't read Dora's letter, but if she is going through what i already had to a while ago, i hope the moderator will do her job and put a stop to it. iI'msure i am the last person any of you would have liked to have a response from! i am also sure eevery timemy name is on this list someone cringes, but i don't really care. this website is a nice way to learn lace as a hobby, and it is also nice to talk to others who can help each other out when they are confused or totally lost. it's a shame people aren't as careful as they wish ootherswere about what they write. i see a lot of careless aaccusationsabout other countries and other people's governments, but i see no one flaming or slamming them. i wish other people on this website would acknowledge the letters as you know they were meant to be for each letter that someone sends that says something different. if everyone on this website would do that, then these things would die down quicker. Making someone feel like they have been alienated by an entire list of people who are usually quick to reply to anything could be turned around if the lurkers would send a nice letter like what was just sent by clay blackwell. I'll remind you again i don't really care what you think, but I'll bet we are all hoping to here more about what was in Dora's bag then what someone took so offensively in her letter. we can all have one then,, and i think we are all going to need them. in America we have our emergency car bags that include a blanket, candles, flares, jumper cables, food, bottled water, flashlights, pocket knives, rope, a tarp, chains, and a battery powered radio that will pick up weather channels. what could someone carry around with them to help them in an emergency like this? i also agree with Dora because i don't drive. i walk, ride a bike or find a ride with someone. i usually carry a purse with food, a drink, a pocket knife, a miniature flashlight, a cell phone if you have one, but a blanket is hard to fit in a purse. it would better for everyone if you would just print suggestions on what to bring instead of sending nasty letters. we are all going to end up with gigantic walls built between each country or state to attempt to stop this crappy terrorism, and then 100 years later we will all celebrate it being torn down just like the china wall. there is no cure for terrorism and pointless to argue with people unless you were at al quada's gate. save the hate for them. --- Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dora wrote, I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! To which Tamara responded, And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on laughing out loud for many years to come. But what Tamara did NOT include in her response was a very important sentence in Dora's note... Honestly, I read this expecting to see people carrying a personal emergency kit in case of terrorism! (which was followed by the description of her knapsack) So I believe that we can safely assume that Dora was laughing at her own mistaken understanding of the personal emergency kit, and NOT at the horrible experiences everyone even remotely connected to the latest acts of terrorism have endured. It is good to laugh at your own mistakes. I don't know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
On Jul 9, 2005, at 21:22, susan wrote: i sent my letter through spell check before i mailed to avoid the insults of the spelling error obsessions of other lacers Wasn't me, honest Injun :) I do not send flames behind the screen (and ignore those sent to me) and still there are a few, so if anyone could explain the errors after that i would love to know. Since you ask... Most are typos, not spelling errors - words which run into one another or have the same letter typed in twice instead of once - happens to all of us, though I'm surprised the spell-checker didn't catch those (I don't use the spell-checker, so all typos are my own fault only g) But you also have to realise that a spell-checker is not totally reliable; it's only a dumb machine. A word may seem to it like it's spelled correctly but, because of the context, it's still not right. The most common examples are: their/there your/you're here/hear In each pair, both spellings are correct, and both spellings will be accepted by the spell-checker, because it doesn't know how you're using it. But, people who read it within a certain context, will react. Personally, I saw only two spelling mistakes (and one of those might have ben a typo, also) - the rest were typos, and you're not asking about those. [...] I'll bet we are all hoping to here more here/hear. Something that a spell-checker would never catch. [...] unless you were at al quada's gate. al Qaeda. The spell-checker might catch/question that, since it's not a common word, but a spell-checker can be overriden very easily. Me, I know how to spell it, but am startled every time I *hear* it -- comes from not listening to radio and TV :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: London Bombings Personal Emergency List
On Jul 7, 2005, at 19:20, Dora Smith wrote: I wouldn't be TOO worried! London is a huge city! One of the largest in the planet! Extends for maybe 30 miles across. Yeah, well... New York is huge too, as is DC. But that wasn't a mad sniper shooting people off one by one at random; this was a concentrated attack, on underground trains (and a bus), during rush hours, when people are going to work all over the place, so, until you know that yours are safe, you fret. Then you start grieving for all those who aren't yours, but are human all the same. I well remember being in terror on 9/11 until we heard from my stepson - he doesn't work on the site, but often had business there. All it takes is being in a wrong place at a wrong moment... Avital, and all others who've heard from theirs; I'm glad for you. And I hope that all ours (those who live in/around London, who were visiting for the day of shopping, etc) will report their safety also I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on laughing out loud for many years to come. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
