[lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

[Jane Partridge]

I wasn't slating you, but if you were in the position I am, regularly visiting
The Hollies, you would possibly feel the same way when someone appears to
suggest that sharing is acceptable, even if that wasn't exactly what was
meant.
Unfortunately, a lot of people have the misconception that sharing is
acceptable, and seem to think that it is OK because they are the only one
doing it, right? - but that is not the case, and the point I was trying to get
over is that sharing increases subscription rates, decreases membership
numbers and eventually kills off the organisation in question. This is why the
Guild had to stop the group memberships - they desperately need to increase
their income if they are going to survive.
It is good that you both support the Guild, and I wasn't in any way
apportioning blame, just expressing my frustration that a lot of people think
this course of action (whether it is called "sharing" or "buying
co-operatively" it has the same potential consequence) is acceptable in the
first place.
I was under the impression from what I was told was that the reason the Circle
failed was a bit of both - lack of members and lack of members willing to
serve on their Committee.

Jane Partridge

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RE: [lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Jane and other Arachnids,

Just to add to my rather short and hurried note I wrote just now rather in
anger. Sorry about that because I did say ‘share’ when I should have said
‘buy cooperatively’ or something similar.

If I did not get together with my best friend to subscribe to these lace
magazines I would only able to afford two or three which would mean that three
or four groups/magazines would miss out as my friend is in her eighties and
could not be bothered with the hassle of keeping the subscriptions up.
However, because I organise the magazines and subs she only has to pay her
share (or portion if you prefer). So rather than slating me for ‘sharing’
magazines, one should ask about the circumstances before commenting and
certainly not apportion blame.

By the way, The Lace Guild is the only group where she has a separate
subscription which I organise for her so we always have two “Lace”
magazines.

Not only that, I always recommend that my students join the Lace Guild and
several have done so.

Lastly, The Lace Circle, which I also belonged to for many years did not close
because people shared their magazine (“The Lacemaker”) but because no
members came forward to take over the running of the group (at that time I was
too busy and too far away to be of any use to them).

Joepie



From: J-D Hammett
Sent: 06 May 2016 18:50
To: Jane Partridge
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: RE: [lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

Hi all,

Fortunately; I do not ‘share’. I buy 6 magazines with my best friend.

Joepie



From: Jane Partridge
Sent: 06 May 2016 13:56
To: J-D Hammett
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

Unfortunately Joepie is not the only one who shares her magazines with other
people. This sharing results in loss of income to the Guilds and organisations
producing the magazines, to the extent that they have to increase their
subscription rates (as The Lace Guild are hoping to get members' approval for
at their AGM on Sunday) which has a knock on effect of discouraging renewal -
and could very well put their survival at risk. Can I make the same plea as
has been made many times before, and ask you to stop sharing your magazines
before more lace organisations have to close as the Circle did?

I was also concerned that because I can't attend the AGM and asked for a proxy
form to vote, I discovered I was the only member who has done so - too late
now for this year, but please use your vote, proxy forms are available to all
members, and can be emailed to those living overseas. Please support the
organisations behind the magazines you subscribe to.

Jane Partridge

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[lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

[Susan Vossier]

After several years of lace Express (lovely eye candy as Joepie says) last
year I changed for La Dentelle, which has very detailed instructions, but
only in French, and Vuelta y Cruz, which is a delight.  I read the Spanish
first, then read again in English for what I missed first time round, thus
drawing out the pleasure.  Haven't got round to sending off my subscription
yet this year; must do this week!

Sue in Montélimar, France

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RE: [lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

[J-D Hammett]

Hi all,

Fortunately; I do not ‘share’. I buy 6 magazines with my best friend.

Joepie



From: Jane Partridge<mailto:mous...@live.co.uk>
Sent: 06 May 2016 13:56
To: J-D Hammett<mailto:jdhamm...@msn.com>
Cc: lace@arachne.com<mailto:lace@arachne.com>
Subject: [lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

Unfortunately Joepie is not the only one who shares her magazines with other
people. This sharing results in loss of income to the Guilds and organisations
producing the magazines, to the extent that they have to increase their
subscription rates (as The Lace Guild are hoping to get members' approval for
at their AGM on Sunday) which has a knock on effect of discouraging renewal -
and could very well put their survival at risk. Can I make the same plea as
has been made many times before, and ask you to stop sharing your magazines
before more lace organisations have to close as the Circle did?

I was also concerned that because I can't attend the AGM and asked for a proxy
form to vote, I discovered I was the only member who has done so - too late
now for this year, but please use your vote, proxy forms are available to all
members, and can be emailed to those living overseas. Please support the
organisations behind the magazines you subscribe to.

Jane Partridge


On 6 May 2016, at 06:43, J-D Hammett <jdhamm...@msn.com> wrote:


I know it seems a lot, but I share with my best friend who is also a lace
maker ;-)

Joepie, East Sussex, UK,

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[lace] Re: lace magazines/membership

[Jane Partridge]

Unfortunately Joepie is not the only one who shares her magazines with other 
people. This sharing results in loss of income to the Guilds and organisations 
producing the magazines, to the extent that they have to increase their 
subscription rates (as The Lace Guild are hoping to get members' approval for 
at their AGM on Sunday) which has a knock on effect of discouraging renewal - 
and could very well put their survival at risk. Can I make the same plea as has 
been made many times before, and ask you to stop sharing your magazines before 
more lace organisations have to close as the Circle did? 

I was also concerned that because I can't attend the AGM and asked for a proxy 
form to vote, I discovered I was the only member who has done so - too late now 
for this year, but please use your vote, proxy forms are available to all 
members, and can be emailed to those living overseas. Please support the 
organisations behind the magazines you subscribe to.

Jane Partridge 


On 6 May 2016, at 06:43, J-D Hammett  wrote:


I know it seems a lot, but I share with my best friend who is also a lace
maker ;-)

Joepie, East Sussex, UK, 

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